Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ROBBO on August 25, 2010, 11:53:50 AM
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It struck me as ironic that the new owner of Manchester City attended the the first home game against Liverpool. It was from reports the first game he has attended since he bought the club two years ago, the report went on to say that it took time for the supporters to realise who he was and led to a roar of support. After he game he took a little while talking and then left for the airport probably waiting for a European final to make his next appearance. This is what the modern game has become, the plaything of the megga rich. As supporters up and down the country count their pennies and go without just to be able to buy the ticket that allows them see their heroes on every occassion these people with no allegience no history in the game are slowly strangling the very breath out of football. Apparently he bought City to raise the profile of Abu Dabi as it is small meat compared to other Arab states. As all empires it will eventually crumble, either through sheer boredom of the owner or overstretched borrowings of greed merchants or more likely the people who are the lifeblood of the game will eventually turn away and remember the good and even the not so good times. It surely is time for a revolution in England, i can't think of a better time or a better cause.
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The money men imagine and expect that overseas subscription rights are going to generate enormous revenues in the coming years. The global digital media rights legal, commercial and technological frameworks that are being put in place make it a real possibility. If only 10% of the people who watch "EPL" regularly can be converted into paying subscribers, the potential revenue figures are astronomical.
The game we grew up with is dying but they've already taken ownership of the "product" and they mean to make money from it.
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Football clubs have always been the playthings on the rich and used as marketing tools for their other ventures.
In the past it was the local builder, car dealer or travel agent. Now its the magnates involved in oil, finance etc.
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Football clubs have always been the playthings on the rich and used as marketing tools for their other ventures.
In the past it was the local builder, car dealer or travel agent. Now its the magnates involved in oil, finance etc.
Perhaps but I could afford to go to the games in those days.
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The football i grew up watching has changed, i have changed too, partly because i live abroad and cannot afford the time and money to follow Villa home and away, but also because i can sit at home or in the pub and watch Villa getting hammered 6-0, and know i haven't wasted too much time and effort. Because i don't have a season ticket, it also means i can then afford Club Wembley tickets on the rare occasions we get there, (and yes it was very nice thankyou).
I am coming around to being a modern football fan, is it as good as the old days, maybe yes maybe no. But it is here to stay and as much as i hate Rupert Murdoch i will keep paying my money and taking my choice, and picking and choosing my trips to watch Villa play. I personally don't see the PL failing, but it is definitely changing.
UTV
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The Murdoch dollar doesn't come for free and what we see today are the inevitable consequences. I am not just talking about football.
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i hate football these days...
it is an utter disgrace...
i cant walk away from villa, which in turn, means i cant walk away from football, but i hate it...
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Football clubs have always been the playthings on the rich and used as marketing tools for their other ventures.
In the past it was the local builder, car dealer or travel agent. Now its the magnates involved in oil, finance etc.
The old owners for all their faults, at least had an air of permanence, these new mega rich, they're just passing through.
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Thing is, we've been hearing about the bubble bursting for about a decade now and it hasn't, so the question has to be asked will it ever? Football followers are by their nature quite fanatical, so that is a big factor to be exploited by people of a certain frame of mind. Can't afford £10,000 for a season ticket? No problem, just give us £100-a-month and we'll beem the game direct to your living room.
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That's the trouble with these super rich owners they have taken all the fun out of football now it's not as much fun as it use to be.
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Just like in the late 80's when football was on it's knees in this country and had to change....and did, I think something will aslo be done to stop the way it's going here, maybe a single event or the people in power act to change things....
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i hate football these days...
it is an utter disgrace...
i cant walk away from villa, which in turn, means i cant walk away from football, but i hate it...
Made me think of the adverts for News of the World I think, or some other Murdoch organ, which tell us that "we wouldn't change a thing" about football. Yeah, right...
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The same couple of teams winning the 3 domestic trophies, pretty much every season.......
sad isn't it ?
UTV
The Doc
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I've said before that the only thing that will force the game to get it's house in order is the drop in revenue from Sky.
That in turn will only come about due to falling subscriptions. Which is where you come in. More internet streams + more reliable internet connections = less need for Sky.
It wouldn't even need to be Sky withdrawing funding completely. Just a dip in the revenue they provide would have a huge effect of the English game, as sides budget (ha!) with that in mind. That revenue should really be the cream on top, but it isn't.
It's a ridiculous state of affairs that with the game so awash with money most clubs are in debt. It can't continue that way.
On a side note: those characters at Man Citeh come across as extremely shady. Just looking at that bloke the other night was like looking into the face of pure evil. You also have to wonder about any organisation that (a) appoints Garry Cook and (b) has Shinawatra on speed dial.
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i hate football these days...
it is an utter disgrace...
i cant walk away from villa, which in turn, means i cant walk away from football, but i hate it...
Similar to me. The football I grew up with , where even in the dark division 3 days you knew there was hope of rising and winning the league (which we did 10 years later), died a long time ago. I can't see it coming back unless there is a revolution where the clubs outside the elite 4 or 5 get together and tell the big guns to fuck off to a euro super league and Murdoch to go screw himelf. We can then go back to old style football league which worked fine for 100 years plus, a european Cup for proper champions, and the return of the CWC and UEFA cups. And if PL and CL fans in Thailand, or Japan, or the Pillipines don't like it, who cares?
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the only way anything can be done about it is if eufa actually do something about their "fair competition" comments and try and make the finances in the game more evened out in terms of champions league revenue, and europa league format and revenue...
would sheik moneyismypenisextension want to buy a pissant little club like manchester city and spunk hundreds of millions on it, if the champions league wasnt the diamond double glazed glass ceiling unnoficial super league be all and end all?!?
but as it stands, eufa are very happy to financially reward champions league clubs so stupidly that it stops any clubs other than the status quo being able to really break into the champions league vip party... at the moment its like trying to pick a bank safe with a toothpick made out of ice... and eufa are very happy with the way things are, because their unnofficial european super league makes them stupid amounts of money, and any talk of trying to create "fair competition" or whatever lip service that ****** platini came out with, is nothing more than squatting next to a forest fire that they have lit themselves in an attempt to make it look like they are trying to put it out and avoid responsibility...
it makes competition almost impossible without a ridiculously large lottery win, which then makes crap clubs, become the new media favourite, and the brain dead morons who read and hear drivel from the likes of tossers like olivier holt, shaun custis, andy gray, monkey man keys, etc, and take their nonsense as their own gospel opinion, which then feeds the flames of fire...
only reason platini is bringing in the financial revenue nonsense rules that will simply make champions league clubs able to spend the nonsense champions league money they "earn", is to help those already in the tournament, and french clubs... its not a coincidence that france were "awarded" euro 2016 and are getting financial help with their stadiums, and in turn, better income from gates to spend... eufa officials in agenda filled decision making? oh, the shock horror!
what we need to happen is for eufa to change the formats of both the champions league and europa league, cut a lot of the financial reward for champions league paricipation and distribute it better between this, the europa league, and youth coaching...
five things need to be done..
1, make the champions league (the name itself is insulting to those not from the highlight generation) for champions only... this makes the tournament more about prestige than money... the fact that a club who finished 5th in their league a few seasons ago won the european league makes a mockery of the whole tournament... with only the champions being in a tournament for champions, we see a better distribution of clubs trying to become champions, because one club can not stockpile all the best players, and thus creating more competition...
2, stop giving so much money to champions league clubs... less money in the champions league stops it becoming the be all and end all, to both clubs and players alike... clubs wouldnt be able to spend so much on wages based on champions league revenue, which would stop clubs being able to stockpile the best players at their clubs with the promise of more money... and less players being attracted to the wages being promised by champions league revenue, means more players for everyone else... meaning more competition...
3, stop rewarding failure in the champions league with relegation to the europa league and cut down the ridiculous amount of games in this tournament... this would make the tournament more prestigious instantly, and with less games, means it doesnt impact as much on an already busy domestic league season... thus meaning players want to play in the tournament again, and qualification into it, attracts better quality players in the squad.. meaning more competition...
4, more money in the europa league makes the europa league a little more appealing to players... meaning as point 3, better quality will come to clubs, and then create more competition...
5, distribute some of the champions league revenue to youth coaching across the world... thus creating a higher number of better quality player to distribute throughout the world game.. meaning more competition...
however, eufa wont change anything other than what suits their own money making or personal agendas, because the status quo suits them, and the only way that will be threatened is by a lottery win that turns a pissant little club like man city or chelsea into one of the so called "big clubs", which is surprise surprise, when eufa start to look at making changes that suit their unnoficial european super league...
as i said, football is a disgrace and i hate it...
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...or just buy a "dodgy" box and watch it at home for free!
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the only answer is a eruo super league for all the the big, rich, gloryboys,
then the rest of us can get back to football at 3 o'clock on saturdays, with pay on the day crowds, and no millionaire players driving Lambo's
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the only answer is a eruo super league for all the the big, rich, gloryboys,
then the rest of us can get back to football at 3 o'clock on saturdays, with pay on the day crowds, and no millionaire players driving Lambo's
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