Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on August 24, 2010, 12:27:50 PM
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Assuming our ungracious ex leader returns to premiership football (not totally sure about this as i think most Chairmen / owners would have seen the leaving and his stock has dropped significantly i would imagine) would you give him the boo treatment?
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No.
It'd just give him an opportunity to claim the moral high ground.
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Sorry what?
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Ignore him but I'd love to see him get a standing ovation on his return, the Holte calling for him to give us a wave, followed by 40,000 giving him the 'V's when he does.
He's more Mike Bassett than Brian Clough.
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I think booing ex-players is childish and only spurs them on to play better, so I see no difference in doing that to an ex-manager either.
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I think booing ex-players is childish and only spurs them on to play better, so I see no difference in doing that to an ex-manager either.
I'm with you John M.
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Sorry what?
You've lost me.
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I'd hope his reception would be similar to the one Daphne and Celeste received when they played the Reading Festival. Non stop boos and bottles full of beery piss flying in his direction.
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Ignore. That would hurt him.
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I'd hope his reception would be similar to the one Daphne and Celeste received when they played the Reading Festival. Non stop boos and bottles full of beery piss flying in his direction.
That's left with something of a dilemma because I'm a Daphne & Celeste fan.
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Actually I'd quite like Leighton to fetch his O'Leary banner out of storage.
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I would not boo him like dave said just ignore him.
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I may well be in the minority but I'd give him a decent ovation. I know he left us in the lurch somewhat but I'd like to thank him for the part he played in ensuring two very good days out at Wembley last season and for his help in restoring the pride and reputation of our club that was damaged during the O'Leary era. I just wish he'd gone at the end of last season.
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I would clap him.
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Simply stand in silence and turn our backs on him.
It's what he has done to us.
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I may well be in the minority but I'd give him a decent ovasion. I know he left us in the lurch somewhat but I'd like to thank him for the part he played in ensuring two very good days out at Wembley last season and for his help in restoring the pride and reputation of our club that was damaged during the O'Leary era. I just wish he'd gone at the end of last season.
I'm with you. I'd give him a deserved round of applause.
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I'm with Taxdodger on this.
Now, if that sex-text pest O'leary ever darkened our doorstep again, I'd be chucking lumps of shit at him like a chimp in a zoo.
I know I'm inconsistent, but there you go
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Who??
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I may well be in the minority but I'd give him a decent ovasion. I know he left us in the lurch somewhat but I'd like to thank him for the part he played in ensuring two very good days out at Wembley last season and for his help in restoring the pride and reputation of our club that was damaged during the O'Leary era. I just wish he'd gone at the end of last season.
I'm with you. I'd give him a deserved round of applause.
I agree, but then I clap every former player / manager that comes back (apart for Steve Hodge)
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I don't want him anywhere near our club the egotistical, arrogant prick, he didn't give a shit about our club!
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I think the slow hand clap, or 'sarcastic applause' would be in order.
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he did well for us in some respects
but he did flounce out taking all 'his' staff with him 5 days before the season started
polite clap whan announcer mentions him
then Ignore him
Cheer the Villa
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The actual physicality of booing always makes me smile. It works if you can do whistles louder than a whispering wshhfsshhfhhswsh noise. but when you actually stand there and shout 'boooooo' it becomes slightly slapstick and looks and sounds silly. I have never been able to it without smiling at myself in embarrassment realising how stupid i must look and sound.
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Yes I would. The mess we find ourself in now because of that selfish and vindictive egotist has left me in no doubt as to the quality of the man.
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he did well for us in some respects
but he did flounce out taking all 'his' staff with him 5 days before the season started
polite clap whan announcer mentions him
then Ignore him
Cheer the Villa
This is the answer for me.
We maintain our dignity.
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No. Booing shows we were affected by it. Polite applause say thanks, but we've moved on from you.
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Ignore... Possibly sing the new managers name too.
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Ignore... Possibly sing the new managers name too.
"Kev MacDonald had a team, E-I-E-I-O......."
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I don't think mon will return in the premiership- he won't get a better job than villa and I can't see him being tempted by a club chasing mid table.
Maybe director of football at Celtic or a return to his spiritual home at forest would tempt him .
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Sorry, and I know this is immature, I'd boo him all the way to the dugout, whilst standing up, leaning over the person in front of me, flicking the V's, with veins bulging in my neck and my blood pressure going through the roof!!!. But that's just me I guess.
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I've got more concern about other stuff at the Villa at the moment to consider if I would boo the potential return of MON.
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I've got more concern about other stuff at the Villa at the moment to consider if I would boo the potential return of MON.
Yeah, really.
To think people were worried about vuvuzelas at VP after the World Cup.
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I think he will be sat in the stand at some point - as England manager.
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I've got more concern about other stuff at the Villa at the moment to consider if I would boo the potential return of MON.
To think people were worried about vuvuzelas at VP after the World Cup.
At least if MON returned we'd have somewhere to stick the vuvuzelas!
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I think he will be sat in the stand at some point - as England manager.
I dearly hope this comes to pass. Both as someone who is a member of the tartan army (winning is not everything!) and as someone who wants to see his bloated undeserved reputation to be punctured fatally once and for all.
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Wouldn't it be better if the Holte chanted 'Martin, Give us a wave, Martin, Martin give us a wave.' and as he did, everyone just shouted 'Now Fuck Off'?
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I'm with Taxdodger on this.
You're going soft, Chico. I really thought I'd have you giving it the away goalie treatment. Must be all the Pimms you drink down there.
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I'd be very surprised if he'd return with a Premier club, only the likes of Wigan or West Brom would employ him.
He'll see himself as bigger than that.
Total silence would be better than booing.
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Depends whether it turned out for the best for the club.
If we get a really good Manager in and the effect is so very positive, just ignore the bloke as he's done us a favour - not that he meant to mind you.
I always concentrate on Villa and all things Villa than the opposition and its Manager myself.
Fuck off O'Neill >:(
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Mark Kelly
You're going soft, Chico. I really thought I'd have you giving it the away goalie treatment. Must be all the Pimms you drink down there.
Pimms? I'll take a pint, ta very much
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Makes you wonder what kind of reception Ron Saunders would get in this day and age if he did what he did now?
Imagine the bulging veins then!
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No nothing.
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two wembley trips last year, consistent top six position in a very very competitive league. Leaves my club, surely the pinnicle of football jobs days before the league starts. Fills my club with players like Dunne, A Young, Cuellar, Downing, Warnock, Friedel but also signs some clowns on high wages. Swings and roundabouts therefore for me. So I will unleash the "disinterested poker face" on him, see how he likes that. That'll learn him
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I think it would depend on the timing.
If he rocked up, say this season with Newcastle, giving it the Billy Big Bollocks and made out that he was hard done by, that we'd never had it so good et.c, he'd deserve a Hodge-esque welcome.
If it was two/three years down the track as manager of some plucky underdog in the cup -and if he's expressed remorse in the build up- I think he'd get a decent reception.
Everyone can drop a bollock. Maybe it was one game of upmanship with the board too many, they called his bluff and before he knew it there was no going back. He might be sitting at home right now regretting it.
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Wouldn't boo or cheer him. I appreciate the good things he did for the club but he has destroyed those memories and the respect I had for him in which the way he left.
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I'd just ignore, he's gone and is in the past now.
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I think booing ex-players is childish and only spurs them on to play better, so I see no difference in doing that to an ex-manager either.
I'm with you John M.
Yeah and me.
Essentially I am far too cool to get involved with actions like that.
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i wont boo but iv lost all respect for the man.he left with no dignity
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I'd cheer him and sing his name. That would really unnerve him.
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It's a strange one, and I think it would all depend on how we were doing at the time he came back.
Should we be in a position where we've gone backwards (suggesting he'd perhaps been doing a 'good' job), he'd get booed.
Should we be in a position where we've gone forwards (suggesting he'd perhaps been doing a 'bad' job), he'd probably get a warm welcome.
It's like bumping into your ex - it's fine so long as your new bird is better.
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Ignore. That would hurt him.
That's what I was going to say, Silent treatment for me
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They say time is a great healer ..............
I'd offer to pick him up at the airport/railway station and drive him to Minworth -
Then throw him into those big round tanks and leave him there ..........because that's what he did to us
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Chant "Martin Please don't forget to give us a wave to say goodbye"
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I would applaud, but there are a couple of caveats to that statement:
(1) what has happened to AVFC in the interim
(2) who he is managing
So if we do as well or better in the next couple if seasons and he brings a plucky Forest side here in the Cup he'll get a hearty clap; if we go into a rapid decline and he brings his Man City team here for a match that will see them qualify for the Champions League and consign us to the Championship, I'll be foaming at the mouth.
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I'd hope his reception would be similar to the one Daphne and Celeste received when they played the Reading Festival. Non stop boos and bottles full of beery piss flying in his direction.
Ooh! Stick you! Your Harewood too! And your Heskey!
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I'd love him to get the England job, there's no way he'd succeed and end up looking a numpty, he couldn't manage against us (atleast for a while) or nick our better players, he'd probably call some of our boys up and I can't stand the England national side (Villa aside) so if it did all go wrong it'd be a double whammy.
Don't think I'd boo him though, light applause and nothing else.
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if we go into a rapid decline and he brings his Man City team here for a match that will see them qualify for the Champions League and consign us to the Championship, I'll be foaming at the mouth.
In fairness, there is probably more chance of Kevin Mac being manager of Citeh one day than O'Neill.
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I would boo him, but not half as much if DOL ever turned up.
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i'd sarcastically cheer him. at which point he'd run to the press and complain about fans booing him.
no, risso's beery piss/boo combo sounds right up my street actually.
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I'd hope his reception would be similar to the one Daphne and Celeste received when they played the Reading Festival. Non stop boos and bottles full of beery piss flying in his direction.
Ooh! Stick you! Your Harewood too! And your Heskey!
Quoted for hilarity!
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I don't know when we are playing them but my guess is his return will be as Sunderland Manager when Bruce gets the bullet.
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I'd love him to get the England job, there's no way he'd succeed and end up looking a numpty, he couldn't manage against us (atleast for a while) or nick our better players, he'd probably call some of our boys up and I can't stand the England national side (Villa aside) so if it did all go wrong it'd be a double whammy.
Mike Bassett England Manager II.
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if mon had gone in mAy i would have applauded him but now i would boo the little shit
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I would just ignore old pube head. I don't hate him but I am not impressed in the way he stropped off leaving us in the lurch.
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I think it's immature to boo an ex Manager, but he would get booed that's for sure.
Sarcastic chants of 'Martin, Martin give us a wave...' too.
I wouldn't boo him myself - if he came back as an opposition Manager, we'd know how to play against them and no doubt they'd have Heskey in the team or a Heskey style player - all very predictable.
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He's gone, let it go.
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Ye agree lets move on. Hopefully to a new exciting era ...
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I'd hope his reception would be similar to the one Daphne and Celeste received when they played the Reading Festival. Non stop boos and bottles full of beery piss flying in his direction.
A rendition of 'Oh stick you, your 'momma too and your daaaaaaaadeeeeeee' would send him away with his tail between his legs!
I'd probably give him an apathetic shrug of my shoulders and mutter 'dick head' under my breath.
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Who? :D
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i would buy him a new dummy
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I reme
I think booing ex-players is childish and only spurs them on to play better, so I see no difference in doing that to an ex-manager either.
I remember giving Staunton absolute pelters in around 1999 at VP and he had an absolute stinker and got sent off after about 25 minutes.
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I wouldn't boo him.
What's the point? It'd only give the media another stick to beat us with, apart from anything else.
I'd just adopt a disapproving facial expression, and, whilst nodding towards him, mutter "wanker" or similar to my friend.
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The quicker we move on from MON the fucking better.
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It would great if the whole stadium turned their back on him as he walked out.
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Of course - why not?
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Chant "Martin Please don't forget to give us a wave to say goodbye"
Not very catchy, is it?
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Chant "Martin Please don't forget to give us a wave to say goodbye"
Not very catchy, is it?
Depends on the tune I'd guess.
Martin, ohhhhhh Martin,
Please don't forget to give us a wave
Oh Martin ohhhhhhhh Martin,
To give us a wave to, say goodbye.
I like that.
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Spot on - I had my appendix out earlier that week and was in a fair bit of pain and only exacerbated it further by my energetic baiting of Staunton until he got sent off. The rest of the game was a 0-0 snooze fest and I was in worse pain for another 2 days. Thank God for morphine.
But no, I wouldn't boo MON.
I remeI think booing ex-players is childish and only Villadawg FC them on to play better, so I see no difference in doing that to an ex-manager either.
I remember giving Staunton absolute pelters in around 1999 at VP and he had an absolute stinker and got sent off after about 25 minutes.
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Chant "Martin Please don't forget to give us a wave to say goodbye"
Glenn Peen is probably shitting himself right now.
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A swift round of silence would be enough to greet the fckuer.
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Has anyone actually tried to boo? Only can do it for about 5-10 seconds before the inside of my lip starts to tickle and then I run out of breath.
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I love booing. I make a point of not booing our players but there is so much panto fun to be had booing the ref or the opposition.
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I may well be in the minority but I'd give him a decent ovation. I know he left us in the lurch somewhat but I'd like to thank him for the part he played in ensuring two very good days out at Wembley last season and for his help in restoring the pride and reputation of our club that was damaged during the O'Leary era. I just wish he'd gone at the end of last season.
Even though I hated the way he walked out and the timing, I'm of this opinion too tbh.
For all his faults, he did re-establish us back to a competitive and respected top 6 prem team that we haven't been since Gregory era of around 2000.
Probably a clap when he walks out of the tunnel at the start and then complete indifference during the game which I do with most of the ex players that come back.
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But I'd be giving O'dreary both barrels if he ever dares to return to VP.