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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 22, 2010, 03:38:43 PM
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He's not that good really. A couple of good games when he joined followed by a lot of really bad ones.
How many millions more did he cost than what we just sold Shorey for? He's certainly no better than Shorey.
He's just poor. Very, very poor. Not just todays game, but for a long time.
Am I alone in thinking this?
This isn't just a reaction to todays game either.
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He is a lot better than Shorey.
His form is a worry i have to be honest, but overall i think he is a reasonable FB.Certainly not our worst player today by quite some distance.
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im of the same opinion. has been shocking since the 2nd half of last season.
very clumsy and accident prone too.
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I'm hoping he'll be fine.
We could do with a decent back up as cover though!
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He is a lot better than Shorey.
His form is a worry i have to be honest, but overall i think he is a reasonable FB.Certainly not our worst player today by quite some distance.
I can't see how he's a lot better. They're both dodgy at defending, but Shorey had something about him when he went forward.
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He is a lot better than Shorey.
His form is a worry i have to be honest, but overall i think he is a reasonable FB.Certainly not our worst player today by quite some distance.
He's not though is he. No wonder the gutless c**t resigned. He realised how much of Mr Lerners money he wasted on some very average players. The only pity is he didn't resign sooner.....
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Warnock is a good defender, watch the Ure game at OT, last year and see how many blocks/tackles he gets in.Shorey would'nt do that.
As someone said earlier, for me he has not been on top form since the 2nd half of last season, and he has been shite in the last 3 games.He needs some competition.
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He is clumsy and a bit of a wuss, which is a big problem with Downing playing on the same side.
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Not good enough.
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Did Liverpool offer 14 million for Warnock and Petrov .... Bite their fookin hands off ....
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He is clumsy and a bit of a wuss, which is a big problem with Downing playing on the same side.
The Downing comment is very valid - I think AY covered Warnock alot better when he was wide left.
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He wasn't out worst fullback today.
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I am not keen on him either.
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His recent form is poor, true but he's a decent left fullback.
Today it was hard to call any decent defensive performance, from midfield to keeper, but then with 2 stalwarts injured a young untried kid, playing 3 matches in a week, and a new player in central midfield, who is not a defensive player and no defensive midfield player is it surprising
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Dunno how true it was/is, but apparently MON and Warnock didn't get on. Warnock refusing to move down here causing most of the friction.
There was talk of him going back to Liverpool this summer. He's certainly playing like someone pre-occupied.
Looked quality for two thirds of last season, and good players don't become bad overnight.
Hope he sorts it out soon either way.
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Downing and Warnock on the same wing against a physical side is just carnage waiting to happen.
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For all the other things about Warnock last year that impressed me -decent ditribution, good first touch, turn of pace- the single biggest asset he had was he was fearless in the tackle.
Only slight of frame and throwing his body on the line, blocking shots and generally getting stuck in.
Well the distribution has gone to pot and he looks ropey in one-on-one situations.
I hope it's just a form thing and he gets back to something approximating his level of performance last year.
Shorey was a decent footballer, but always a bit of a pussy.
We know Warnock is capable of so much more - we've already seen it.
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Warnock got torn apart by Wayne Fuckin Routledge today, unacceptable.
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Overated player who is having a very bad spell. Was half decent for periods last year but not good enough in my opinion. I have to agree he is not much better than Shorey.
I'd let him go to his boyhood idols 'Pool if they came in with £5m.
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His defending has always worried me but he looks quality going forward.
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He's shit and has been pretty much exclusively since his whiplash at Old Trafford. Good effort, shocking positional sense, not strong enough in the tackle - a real weak link.
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Overated player who is having a very bad spell. Was half decent for periods last year but not good enough in my opinion. I have to agree he is not much better than Shorey.
I'd let him go to his boyhood idols 'Pool if they came in with £5m.
Same. I bet he's on about 35k a week too.
Makes you think, I wonder how much someone like Assou-Ekotto is on at Spurs? He cost under half the price of Warnock.
Or Figueora? Or Ilunga? Or Enrique?
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Good player, out of form. I'd have him over Shorey no question. He's no Freddie though to be honest. But of course with the silly fee we paid for him, it's understandable people will expect more from him.
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I would keep him i think it's just a loss of form.
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He was excellent when he first signed, but recently he's been very poor and today he was awful.
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I do not think that his heart is in it at Villa tbh
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Bouma was twice the player. I haven't rated Warnock since he signed. In fact, I'd rather play Luke Young at left back than Warnock.
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i thought warnock was one of our better players today, looked like he wanted to win.what did Routledge actually do today,he never got a cross in.
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I thought he was fucking awful, but then so was everyone else.
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Please let's not start hounding Warnock as the new scapegoat - we are three games into the season FFS and he certainly wasn't any worse that a great many of the team today. Let's keep things in perspective.
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He was awful today, as was everybody, but i don't think he's a bad player.
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He was shit but then so was Dunne, I was shocked that poor Clarke was forced to play virtually all the game today. That will do his confidence no good at all !!
Its very easy to question Warnock but look who's in front of him..Downing and also it was Albrighton who are both very lightweight players. Thats not a critism of Albrighton its just fact
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Overated player who is having a very bad spell. Was half decent for periods last year but not good enough in my opinion. I have to agree he is not much better than Shorey.
I'd let him go to his boyhood idols 'Pool if they came in with £5m.
Same. I bet he's on about 35k a week too.
Makes you think, I wonder how much someone like Assou-Ekotto is on at Spurs? He cost under half the price of Warnock.
Or Figueora? Or Ilunga? Or Enrique?
Enrique is apparently on £60k per week and cost the same amount as Warnock.
And Warnock is much better than the other three that you mention, even if the last two games haven't demonstrated that particularly well.
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His positioning is abysmal. It's a criticism often aimed at Luke Young but Warnock is far worse at leaving space and not getting back than Luke Young, he stands of attackers too much, his tackling is often clumsy, he is (like Shorey) too lightweight and he is unbelievably lazy (look at Luke Young if the other team break and he's out of position he races back, Warnock merely wanders). I started to realise this towards the end of the last season but didn't imagine he could possibly sink to the level of performance he managed today.
I hope he rediscovers the form he showed in the early part of his career at the club.
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I haven't seen anything of Warnock that suggests he's good enough to play for his country. Were his country not England that is.
Yesterday's performance was just another in a long line of abject displays for me, the LCFinal previously being the most annoying as others chose to criticise Cuellar who I felt then had a better game.
In Warnock's defence, he was one of the very few who played 90minutes in Vienna on Thursday, but I still prefer Luke Young at left-back to him and would be inclined to rest him this Thursday, play Young there and maybe even put Beye in at right-back.
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He's not in good form, but Warnock is a pretty good player - we saw enough to know that in his first few months at the club. I though Luke Young was much the poorer full-back yesterday, but to be honest, of the defenders, my biggest concern right now is Richard Dunne....
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Warnock was very good the first half of last season and was then rushed back for the League Cup Final.
He's had a couple of bad games, he might be playing with an injury or just be low on confidence.
He'll be back to his best soon enough, I'm sure.
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Theres alot of Blackburn fans who reckon his best position is actually in midfield...
He would have been better off playing in that position yesterday.... ;-s
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Theres alot of Blackburn fans who reckon his best position is actually in midfield...
He would have been better off playing in that position yesterday.... ;-s
Remember him having an absolute blinder against us in midfield a couple of seasons ago.
I was really happy we signed Warnock, but I have to say I've been hugely disapointed with his performances this calendar year.
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I haven't seen anything of Warnock that suggests he's good enough to play for his country.
Who says you need to be good to play for your country? Its OK, delirium has set in and refuses to go away after yesterday.
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I haven't seen anything of Warnock that suggests he's good enough to play for his country. Were his country not England that is.
Yesterday's performance was just another in a long line of abject displays for me, the LCFinal previously being the most annoying as others chose to criticise Cuellar who I felt then had a better game.
In Warnock's defence, he was one of the very few who played 90minutes in Vienna on Thursday, but I still prefer Luke Young at left-back to him and would be inclined to rest him this Thursday, play Young there and maybe even put Beye in at right-back.
We have an excellent right back at the club. It is the truth that dare not speak its name.
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Up until the Wolves home game last season, he looked ok, but he seems to have gone backward
since then. He had to be balied out by Clark and Downing a couple of times yesterday, although the weak centre lousy midfield did'nt help. I'll be honest (and i'll get shouted down for this i know) but i prefered Shorey.
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im of the same opinion. has been shocking since the 2nd half of last season.
very clumsy and accident prone too.
Exactly what I think of him. I've been wondering why he's thought so highly of for some time now.
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He's OK, needs more confidence.
His passing needs to improve, but so does half the teams on yesterday's woeful display.
Not worry #1 at VP by a long chalk.