Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on August 20, 2010, 08:36:09 AM
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Made my blood boil
Deano in the studio - looked like he had been on the piss all night and was coming over as being a "bit slow"
Constant references to Moscow and last years weak squad
And as for the match commentry - my oh my just about the worst i have ever heard
Did not know we had a Japanese right back called Lee How - and Ian Dowie - what a great analyst of the game he is
They were almost clamouring for Guzan to be sent off and likening him to Schumacker in the 82 world cup when he assaulted the frenchman was unfucking believable. Could not beleive that Dowie kept going on about it - i bet every keeper in the land is told thats how you go and collect the ball, even if you knock your own man over
Piss piss poor and then to cap it off the last few minutes all the talked about was the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' game on ITV 1 - no after match analysis or press statement from Kev mac - bloody shit
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I gave up on ITV a long time ago. I listened to the match on BBC WM instead - at least I know the commentators aren't cocks there.
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I watched it in HD on a German channel called ORF1 HD. German commentary but picture superb compared to ITV4 which makes it look like your TV screen has been smeared with grease.
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Watching Sky Sports News last night, they came up with the news on the yellow ticker that West Ham's James Collins is in the Wales squad.
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No mention of the dreadful behaviour of their fans either. Can you imagine what the commentators would have been like if a Liverpool or Manure player was being hit with missiles and sprayed?
Their attitude to Weimann was completely uncalled for.
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These days I just ignore all the commentary,punditry etc and just watch the nice moving pictures.
Last years game I watched in the Barley Mow in Sutton (is it still called that?) on a their totally crap internet connection.
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Dowie also made a big deal of K-Mac not picking Dunne and saying he was needed in the back four. Great reserach seeing as he was suspended, Davros!
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I must agree there commentry and analysis was shit.
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Dowie also made a big deal of K-Mac not picking Dunne and saying he was needed in the back four. Great reserach seeing as he was suspended, Davros!
And he questioned why Ireland wasn't playing,even though he wasn't registered in time...tool.
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Dowie was terrible. Your typical "solid, well organised unit" pundit. In other words he didn't know shit.
He thought Bannan was Albrighton, asked why Ireland wasn't playing (Doh!), had no understanding of the fact that suspended players cannot play and likened Guzan to that dirty, cheating cnut German Harold Schumacher.
His droning tones really did my tits in. Ugly prick.
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It seemed that every ten mins the caption would come up advertising the Liverpoo game and you are all correct the "punditry" was poor....no strike that, it was shit !!
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The fuss over Guzan was ridiculous. He had every right to go for it, the bloke got a bit of a nudge off Warnock and it took him right into Guzan's path. Maybe next time Brad should change the path of his jump in mid-air or just leave the ball completely.
If we progress, hopefully the rest of our away games will be on Five. Their football coverage is much better than ITV.
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The worst thing about Dowie was his tone of voice sounded disinterested like he didn't want to be there. This might also explain why he seemed to have done fuck all research to know who was and wasn't eligible to play for us. Maybe he thought commenting on Villa was beneath him and he should have got the Bin Dippers game? Sorry, but that's not just a matter of being a poor pundit, it's an unprofessional attitude that should see him no longer working for ITV.
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The picture quality on ITV4 is appalling. When that channel gets High Definition, will it be just like a normal channel's Standard Definition?
I don't often comment on such things, but I have to agree, as an "expert summariser", Iain Dowie is also appalling.
Didn't bother watching the pre-game, half-time and post-game bobbins. Good job too, by the sound of things.
ITV should be banned from showing football.
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ITV 4 have the match next Thursday as well! I hope they get a decent commentator and summariser in time because last nights pairing were rubbish.
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They were almost clamouring for Guzan to be sent off and likening him to Schumacker in the 82 world cup when he assaulted the frenchman was unfucking believable. Could not beleive that Dowie kept going on about it - i bet every keeper in the land is told thats how you go and collect the ball, even if you knock your own man over
Did they really clamour for a red? Seriously?
They made the comparison to Schumacker/Battiston because the collision was similar. Keeper in the air with knee raised (raised for elevation as well as protection) and the forward going chin-first at speed into it. But I don't remember a clamour for a red card. I even remember the main commentator saying that Guzan was unlucky to have been booked (edit: for timewasting).
Seriously, some of you are only happy when you're moaning. The picture quality was fuzzy but beyond that I rarely take in what the commentators are saying, experience has taught me not to bother. As long as I can see what's happening (the picture quality was poor, but not THAT poor) then that's all I really need.
And of course they mentioned the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA''s game. They're not going to miss out on informing the casual fans that there's another game on afterwards. BBC do it. Sky do it to death too.
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Just how many times did Dowie say "Thus Far" in commentary??
trying to sound intelligent,
Just 2 blokes sitting in a studio, in London watching a live feed of the game, doing the old Talksport trick of pretending to "be there"
Very POOR
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Well ITV didn't have to televise the match, and its not Aston Villa's God given right to be on TV, so I at least would like to thank ITV4 for letting us watch the game LIVE.
Yes the commentary was pants but so what, we got to watch the game. For FREE.
And ref to Dean Saunders looking like he had just come in from the piss and appearing a bit slow: well isnt that just being Welsh?
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Dowie did get one thing half right...He commented that Heskey spends too much time on the floor, he failed to add that he's also completely useless.
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Now matter how bad it was it could have been worse. Clive Tydsley could have been commentating on it.
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Did they really clamour for a red? Seriously?
No
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Crap modern commentators !
Oh for the good old days, Star Soccer and Huge Ones.
(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icbirmingham/jun2007/9/1/76E46C5D-D887-B004-C3D1B12B075EADF8.jpg)
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There is an awful trend with TV and Radio to employ pundits purely on the basis of having played the game. While this is an advantage the primary skill should be an ability to articulate your thoughts clearly, concisely and in a manner that people will understand. Added to this, as has been mentioned above, the role has to be taken seriously and that means putting time and effort into an appearance prior to a game and not just swanning up to a microphone with an "I know it all" attitude.
Dowie was a prime example as is Savage on Five Live which is just one long ego trip and unlistenable unless you consider a limited player with a spitefull attitude and inflated sense on his own importance to be a "character".
On Talksport and Five Live there are broadcasters who are hugely out of their depth when covering sport due to a distinct lack of knowledge or any sort of experience but who think a pithy comment will disguise the fact that they are pig ignorant regarding the subject they are pontificating on.
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They could have made Barcelona v Real Madrid appear boring that pair.
Dreadful commentary.
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Commentary was okay, punditry was crap. Dowie knew nothing. When you consider the work that Collymore puts into his work it was a disgrace.
He was wrong about everything. Why shouldn't have Guzan been booked for timewasting? Because it was only after 51 mins? Balls. It either was or it wasn't, the timing is irrelevant.
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Now matter how bad it was it could have been worse. Clive Tydsley could have been commentating on it.
That bloke really grinds my gears.
Wouldn't normally watch any game involving Liverpool or Manure, but thought I'd take a look last night.
Big mistake.
Tuned in at half time and the sycophant was on about Liverpool fans having an updated version of the Torres song due to him staying. Microphone in one hand, cock in the other.
Awful, awful commentator. Possibly the worst of a very bad bunch.
Others are quite often just mildly annoying. If that twat is on I'd actually rather avoid the match altogether.
Can't remember what game it was in the WC, but he was wittering on about the English referee for the first half hour of the match. I didn't watch the rest.
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The picture quality was laughable
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I actually thought Deano and Southgate were reasonable. Almost too positive.
Picture quality awful, Dowie's annunciation was even worse. He was fucking mumbling.
But my god the biggest mistake I made was switching back to ITV1 to watch the Liverpool game. Tyldesley is utterly shit; an arrogant cock. I think I like him even less than Green who has turned me off all commentary on Radio Five. If it wasn't for him I'd have quite enjoyed that game last night.
Are five going to be doing much coverage? I was surprised they hadn't a game on last night.
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ITV should put that Damon Green chap into the sports department and get him to bang a few heads together.
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ITV should put that Damon Green chap into the sports department and get him to bang a few heads together.
He only got the job because of his far more talented father.
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Football got to learn ex players doesn't always make good media staff. Make sure they meet certain standards.
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I fell asleep and missed the entire game.
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The coverage was very bad for all of the above reasons.
But at least we got to watch on the old TV and for free.
Be thankful for this.
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Just how many times did Dowie say "Thus Far" in commentary??
trying to sound intelligent,
Just 2 blokes sitting in a studio, in London watching a live feed of the game, doing the old Talksport trick of pretending to "be there"
Very POOR
I know what you mean, but Dowie is intelligent - he has a Masters degree in Engineering. Not particularly articulate, though.