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Title: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 07:52:44 PM
Risso, saw yours was locked so merge when you see this

Job done tonight. The lads did us proud and we rested some players, and gained valuable experience with others. We'll bring back some of the big guns next week at VP and see this through.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 19, 2010, 07:56:06 PM
What a bunch of wan...s . I am now classifing them as Blues Scum Standard.

Boo and throw missiles at Weimann when being carried out of the stadium, after leaving the club when 13 years old

Fuck them...No more "glorifying their support"...

I am pissed off how you can do this to a young talent.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on August 19, 2010, 07:56:46 PM
Well done lads - that's how to use a squad.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
What a bunch of wan...s . I am now classifing them as Blues Scum Standard.

Boo and throw missiles at Weimann when being carried out of the stadium, after leaving the club when 13 years old

Fuck them...No more "glorifying their support"...

I am pissed off how you can do this to a young talent.

That does sound pretty bad to say the least.  Shows what they turn into when things aren't going their way.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 19, 2010, 07:57:59 PM
I know we should keep the better standard...but if i was at the return game, and a player got injured, i would cheer my heart out...(which would put me at their level, but hopefully let them understand how it will hurt for a young talent)
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Wayne Crutchley on August 19, 2010, 07:58:35 PM
I missed the Weimann injury, how did it happen?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 19, 2010, 07:59:38 PM
I missed the Weimann injury, how did it happen?
Fair tackle, fell down ackward on his foot or something. Not even a foul...but he was in pain. The stewards carrying him out had to protect heir heads.....
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 19, 2010, 07:59:58 PM
Job done.  Rather scrappy and a bit disappointed with those who should've been leading a bit more by example: step forward Messers Heskey, Downing, Warnock and, in the last 15 minutes, Reo-Coker. 

However, in the context of who was picked, I'd have taken 1-1 at the start. 
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 19, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
Very well done. Thought Reo-Coker was the pick of the bunch. Certainly played his way into consideration for Sunday.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 19, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Jobs a goodun, away goal acheived, great experience for some of the lesser used squad players, which should make them feel valued. Looking forward to Sunday!
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on August 19, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
KM before the game:

`We have got a big reputation in Europe and it is also very important to stay in the competition for the squad players to play games and for the youngsters to try.'

OK, so without being unfair or unduly negative: our aim is to *progress* in the competition, for two reasons: for the sake of pride, and so that fringe players can get a run-out.

I hope no-one thinks I am `rubbishing' anyone by bringing this up.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 19, 2010, 08:02:18 PM
I joined a Rapid group on facebook posting my feelings, so far i have had a postive reply. Shows maybe that there will always be an ultra group..but still unacceptable.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vienna-Austria/Sk-Rapid-Wien/14686801135
Link for the group.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
Good result that sets us up nicely for the home leg, which is all that matters in Europe.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
Absolutely delighted, My mate tried to take the piss and say Villa are shit but I reminded him that we had a load of kids playing and even NRC, Beye, Davies, Heskey aren't first choice.

For me only Warnock was a first teamer and im really really delighted for the kids they played their hearts out and should be proud.

A good performance at home next week and the job is effectivly done, A full strenght team lost there last year.

Ref was terrible second half and gave away so many needless free kicks. Fans were a disgrace throwing water & a lighter at Guzan and water at an injured player.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Wayne Crutchley on August 19, 2010, 08:03:41 PM
Thanks Edvard, saw him being carried off, absolute disgrace, if that had occured at VP and Villa fans were involved, UEFA would hammer us.
Be interesting to see what/if anything happens. I won't be holding my breathe.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 19, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
Worst. Referee. Ever.

I'm not usually one to go for referees, but my God I've never seen anything to rival this. He literally always gave the opposite of the correct decision, whatever was wrong, he did it. Astonishingly poor. That handball near the end was the last straw for me.

As for the team, inexperience told. They started off really brightly, held the ball so well, but faded around 25 minutes and never really recovered. NRC was good though, I hope he keeps proving me wrong, and Bannan was sprightly and very close to really good on several occasions, so I hope he keeps proving me right. As for the others, Albrighton started well but seemed to be trying too hard, Beye did some good things and some mysterious things, Lichaj kept getting dragged out of position, which was unfortunate, Heskey started ok but it was downhill from there, Downing was generally good but one-footed and should perhaps have played centrally more to give himself more opportunity to do something, Hogg was decent in defence although his positioning was occasionally suspect, Curtis was solid if jumpy and Guzan did nothing wrong and some things very well.

The real worries, though, were Weimann's injury and of course the shocker had by Warnock. I don't know what came over him, but he's been off-form recently and that was the worst of the lot.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: stevenjos on August 19, 2010, 08:05:03 PM
Hope we have a new manager in by next week!!
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 19, 2010, 08:05:15 PM
Well done to them all tonight.

Great experience for a few, did the job to put us in a strong position next week. It's very difficult to blood youngsters these days in league games so MacDonald did the right thing by giving them the chance any they took it.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 19, 2010, 08:06:05 PM
If Beye, Davies and Heskey were in the shop window tonight, we're buggered, or rather Randy is.
Agree on NRC, he put himself about. Good to see him going over to the fans at the end too.
The young un's did enough to get a result. Albrighton still looks like he's ready to step up a level. We'll destroy them at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 08:06:33 PM
Hope we have a new manager in by next week!!

What, you think a new manager wouldn't use the squad like this?  I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:06:59 PM
Hope we have a new manager in by next week!!

What if kev wanted it?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 19, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
Hope we have a new manager in by next week!!

Must.not.feed.sad.troll
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:08:40 PM
There really are some muppets who post on here
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 08:09:33 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 19, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
I could question the subs from Kmac...But after the result, i accept his decisions. Heskey was poor (in a way that he was one of the seniors, that didn't perform at his expected level). Albrighton was brilliant in my book. But hoeg? (nr. 50) didnt do much on my feed.

Lichaj was good. The defense was very dis-organized. But a top european side only getting 1-1 against our reserves/youth team is a good result.

At Villa park, he can use much more players as travel etc is not a part of the issue.

Our full team would have murdered them.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 08:10:14 PM
There really are some muppets who post on here

What are you talking about?  After two matches any manager is fair game.  Mind you he'll probably be calling for the next guy to be fired 5 minutes after he's come in.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 19, 2010, 08:11:24 PM
Good result tonight, wish he'd taken a couple of big guns to come from the bench but it's worked out well enough.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on August 19, 2010, 08:12:41 PM
Considering the mainly Young team out, that is a decent result. A few of the fringe senior players didn't do themselves any favours to try and get in the first team.
The rapid fans and the ref were a disgrace.

Now for sunday, can't wait to see how the first team perform, and whether Ireland plays.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on August 19, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
KM got a better result than Martin did in the same fixture last year. And, arguably, with a weaker team.

He is going to get the job you know
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
KM got a better result than Martin did in the same fixture last year. And, arguably, with a weaker team.

He is going to get the job you know

I did think to myself if he gets any kind of result with this line up he must be a certainty.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
Well, a few of us have to apologise after that. A very good, professional performance that bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: supertom on August 19, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
The ref was abysmal. Absolutely shocking.

The back 4 looked ropey. It was slap dash, pieced together, but the best Macca felt we had I guess. I'm surprised Clark didn't play, but perhaps one eye is on the Toon encounter. Warnock in particular was shocking today. Woeful display. Perhaps tiredness, because he worked his nuts off and had a great game against the Hammers. Beye isn't a CB. Davies still falls asleep too often, and Lichaj is inexperienced, without the aid of a real leader like Dunney to help him through. Guzan still needs to reign himself in. He comes for everything, even when he has no right to. He's just a bit too kamikazee for my tastes.

Midfield was a little lightweight. Hogg went about his business quietly and effectively. Don't think there's much chance he'll make the grade. He'll end up a solid league 1-2 player. Championship if very lucky. Nigel was good today, particularly when he kept it simple. In the final 3rd you know he's not gonna do much when he's there. It's pretty much a given.

Bannan was good first half, then ran out of steam. But there's certainly enough potential there. I can see him being a decent squad player for us.

Albrighton was excellent again. Very positive and bust a gut. He ran himself into the ground. Downing had a good game too. Both players will need to score more goals though.

Heskey was poor. Nothing stuck to him. He showed no attacking adventure. The odd bit of decent hold up play, including the goal to be fair, paper over the cracks of what was another mediocre outing. Don't mean to get on him all the time, but like many others, it's just frustrating to watch him fall over so much and have a fear of being inside the 18 yrd box. Sell him, and buy a decent forward with some of the Milner cash. I hope Robbie K is still on the radar.

Overall though, considering the team, we gave a good account of ourselves. I think Kevin Mac has justified his selection, because the main men should be far fresher on sunday for the more pressing matter of the premier league.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 19, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
As disjointed and as shapeless as anything dished up under MON -with any threat we possessed coming largely from the flanks.

In fairness it was practically a reserve side out there.

I would have taken a narrow defeat (with an away goal) when I clocked the line-up, so happy enough all things considered.

I hope if we do make it through to the group stages we pay the competition the respect it deserves, rather than seeing the games as an irrelevance, just another fixture to be fulfilled. It's not the Sherpa Van trophy, or any other similar variation B-lose used to build their season around.

We aren't too big for the UEFA Cup.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 19, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
KM got a better result than Martin did in the same fixture last year. And, arguably, with a weaker team.

He is going to get the job you know

He just needs to get the same result, we won the home leg last year and I'm not sure it will be a weaker team either.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2010, 08:18:11 PM
Warnock and Davis competed for the worst player on the pitch award today. Davis has stagnated behind belief and Warnock was  just about laziness itself. May be he thinks  as a first choice LB he should have been left at home?

Albrighton, Bannan had a very good game and  Hogg quite but effective. NRC  kept things together in midfield.

KM is lucky that he got away with  a draw despite poor selections. He needs to make sure we pick a decent  team next week to make sure we progress into the League stage.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2010, 08:19:37 PM
Hope we have a new manager in by next week!!

Are you Coopersinjury in disguise?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: asgpaul on August 19, 2010, 08:20:11 PM
A very good result and a lot of positives to come out of the game tonight.  Valuable experience gained by the younger squad members.  And I'm now of the opinion that Kevin Mac could well do a very good job for us.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: stevenjos on August 19, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.


I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 08:21:50 PM
It's going to look a little disjointed when you make that many changes, so we couldn't have expected Saturday's flowing football. Also, Rapid had pretty much a full strength side out. We missed almost all of our big names and still didn't lose. We'll get through this because KM will pick the next team to finish the job off.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on August 19, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
Albrighton is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.


I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

Proved right? Have I just landed on the bizarro world H&V thread where we just got beat 4-0?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: mozza on August 19, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Concerned when I saw the starting line up but KMac knows his players especially the younger ones-

Good to see we aren't afraid to get ball on deck and pass it around-

Barry Bannan's goal was excellent - Super Marc left the full back on his ****

Disappointed with Downing and Davies (first half) -

Weird goal to concede .......both Curtis & Eric Lichaj at fault -

My motm was Jonathon Hogg - very disciplined performance from him

How come Brad Guzan gets caution for first time wasting (no warning) - poor referee

All in all an excellent result ...........it's half time or so the saying goes in European ties
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on August 19, 2010, 08:25:47 PM
Decent enough performance, Hogg looked a bit over-awed.  Davies proved again that he can't play alongside a quiet centre half, I think he just needs someone talking to him and bigging him up all game, probably be fine paired with Collins or Dunne but was terrible tonight.

I don't think Warnock was as bad as some are saying, he spent a lot of the game drifting in field to pick up runners who were getting away from Hogg  and Downing.  Heskey was pretty poor, looked tired after half hour and gave far too much possession away after that.  Guzan looks nervous jumping with big men since the blackburn cup games, if he can't get over that I think we'll have to accept he's not going o become the keeper we hoped for.

Bannan and Albrighton looked decent.  They were fantastic for the first 25mins or so but then stopped getting any ball and all the pace went out of our game.

On to the ref.  The guy was well out of his depth, it was truly one of the most incompetent performances I've ever seen.  The amount of free kicks given against us that were actually well times tackles that won the ball was a ridiculous, I can think of 5-6 off my head without watching it back.  Add in Davies and Beye being punished for jumping when their strikers didn't, the handball that wasn't given and the guzan booking and it shows that he just wasn't in any control of the game, at any point.

Finally their fans were an absolute disgrace, throwing water at a player who's being carried off on a stretcher is one of the least sporting things I've ever seen, that it was a young austrian player playing against his childhood team just makes them even more pathetic.  I really hope UEFA see sense and throw the book at the club, they brought shame on the whole club tonight.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2010, 08:26:07 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.


I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

Proved right? Have I just landed on the bizarro world H&V thread where we just got beat 4-0?

Apparently TV, a score draw away from home in the first leg in Europe is a disaster.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 19, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.

I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

How were you proved right? A 1-1 draw in an away leg of a European game is a good result. Sets us up nicely for the return. Are you new to football?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 08:28:01 PM
I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

If we win next week will you still have been proven right?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on August 19, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
There were some good performances tonight - Albrighton again, and Bannan worked very hard.

Lichaj looked a liability however and Guzan will never be good enough, despite his shot stopping.

We will need a stronger team next week to be sure of going through.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.

I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

How were you proved right? A 1-1 draw in an away leg of a European game is a good result. Sets us up nicely for the return. Are you new to football?

He must be Chris ;)

Im happy
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: nechells on August 19, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
Warnock and Davis competed for the worst player on the pitch award today. Davis has stagnated behind belief and Warnock was  just about laziness itself. May be he thinks  as a first choice LB he should have been left at home?

Albrighton, Bannan had a very good game and  Hogg quite but effective. NRC  kept things together in midfield.

KM is lucky that he got away with  a draw despite poor selections. He needs to make sure we pick a decent  team next week to make sure we progress into the League stage.
I'm not a big fan of Davis & would add him to the list of players that MON paid way too much for.With Dunne suspended,changes to the centre of defence were unavoidable-I thought we looked shaky & rode our luck at times.

Heskey chipped in with his standard 3/10 performance which didn't help matters.

Positive notes have to be the result & also  further evidence of a group of players who seem to be enjoying their football coupled with a hunger to play for their manager.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 19, 2010, 08:33:09 PM
Can't moan at that, well played lads.  Just hope we throw a few older heads in next week without worrying about the Everton game.  We need to take this cup seriously.

stevenjos - have you been on the pipe or something?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on August 19, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Good result. High points: - Albrighton, Bannan and Beye I thought played generally pretty well even though all 3 faded somewhat.
Low points: - disappointed with Guzan and Downing in particular. Downing did not lead as a senior player should; went missing when the team were under pressure. Guzan does not appear to have learned much from his experiences last season ab0ut defending set pieces.
We rode our luck a little but we could have been Further ahead in the 1st quarter and back in the lead during the 3rd quarter of the game.

Not bad for the K-Mac experiment.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: nechells on August 19, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
There were some good performances tonight - Albrighton again, and Bannan worked very hard.

Lichaj looked a liability however and Guzan will never be good enough, despite his shot stopping.

We will need a stronger team next week to be sure of going through.
Some of the throw outs by Guzan tonight were suicidal & put us under unecassery pressure.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
I don't think we'll take this cup seriously as such, I expect similar teams throughout
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on August 19, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Team that played away to this shower last year:

Aston Villa: Guzan, Shorey, Beye, Cuellar, Davies ( Lowry, 80 ) , Sidwell, Reo-Coker, Milner, Young, Gardner ( Agbonlahor, 55 ) , Heskey
Subs not used: Friedel, Petrov, Delph, Albrighton, Delfouneso

No arguably about it - this evening's was a far weaker team.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: bob on August 19, 2010, 08:38:02 PM
stevenjos, genuine question. Are you ever going to post anything positive related to Villa? You make it sound like everything's shit.


I posted positive things after the weekend. I said earlier today that resting people was a stupid idea and I was proved right.

Obvious troll is obvious.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on August 19, 2010, 08:38:27 PM
Albrighton is going to be awesome.

...and then we'll sell him.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: fredm on August 19, 2010, 08:39:26 PM
I think what we must remember tonight is that it was Rapid's 9th competitive match this season.  How many matches have our players played?  The likes of Davies, Beye etc were getting their first run out so would probably not have been world beaters in their perormance.  When you also add in the fact that this team had never played together before and therefore were prone to misread each other (see Beye for the goal) then it is no wonder it was rather disjointed.

It showed KM that work is needed on the training ground particularly in taking free kicks/corner kicks and also defending them.  Let's hope they take notice and make the improvement.

Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 19, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Albrighton is going to be awesome.

...and then we'll sell him.

We'll be ok, Man City have a winger now
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 19, 2010, 08:42:57 PM
Good result, given the team we put out.  I thought we looked really good until they equalised.  After that they were always going to put us under pressure and they missed a few chances but I'm confident we'll go through.

Some of our lot had very good games, others were mediocre, which led to a disjointed performance overall.  Albrighton stood out, as he always seems to, and Lichaj caught my eye with what can only be described as a combative performance.  I don't think we learned anything new about Davies, Reo-Coker or Heskey: not shite but not great either.

Away goal, didn't lose, several players rested, others given a run out = good evening's work. 
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on August 19, 2010, 08:43:35 PM
To repeat from the match thread the bit of play from Albrighton for the goal was absolutely world class wing play.  Turned the defender inside out and then had the composure too look up and pick out his man in the box.  2 games in now and he's looked top class on both so far.

What a prospect.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on August 19, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
Albrighton is going to be awesome.

...and then we'll sell him.

We'll be ok, Man City have a winger now

What, and that would stop them?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
To repeat from the match thread the bit of play from Albrighton for the goal was absolutely world class wing play.  Turned the defender inside out and then had the composure too look up and pick out his man in the box.  2 games in now and he's looked top class on both so far.

What a prospect.

I said on Saturday that he looks a proper winger. His sole intent is to take the full back on with speed or with a trick and get a cross in. I actually wish Ash and Downing did that a little more.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on August 19, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
To repeat from the match thread the bit of play from Albrighton for the goal was absolutely world class wing play.  Turned the defender inside out and then had the composure too look up and pick out his man in the box.  2 games in now and he's looked top class on both so far.

What a prospect.
Yep, looking forward to seeing him play this season.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: deero83 on August 19, 2010, 08:46:13 PM
Worst. Referee. Ever.

I'm not usually one to go for referees, but my God I've never seen anything to rival this. He literally always gave the opposite of the correct decision, whatever was wrong, he did it. Astonishingly poor. That handball near the end was the last straw for me.

As for the team, inexperience told. They started off really brightly, held the ball so well, but faded around 25 minutes and never really recovered. NRC was good though, I hope he keeps proving me wrong, and Bannan was sprightly and very close to really good on several occasions, so I hope he keeps proving me right. As for the others, Albrighton started well but seemed to be trying too hard, Beye did some good things and some mysterious things, Lichaj kept getting dragged out of position, which was unfortunate, Heskey started ok but it was downhill from there, Downing was generally good but one-footed and should perhaps have played centrally more to give himself more opportunity to do something, Hogg was decent in defence although his positioning was occasionally suspect, Curtis was solid if jumpy and Guzan did nothing wrong and some things very well.

The real worries, though, were Weimann's injury and of course the shocker had by Warnock. I don't know what came over him, but he's been off-form recently and that was the worst of the lot.

Curtis was solid? Not sure which game you were watching. I thought he was pretty shaky and was at fault for their goal thanks to jumping for the header at completely the wrong time. Very poor positioning generally.

Thought the kids did well.

The ref was abysmal, how he got selected by UEFA god only knows.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 19, 2010, 08:46:22 PM
I feel a bit underwhelmed, but I would have taken that result before the game.

Guzan a good shot stopper but wobbles awfullly with balls into the box. Defensively we were an absolute shambles. Let's remember that Rapid looked like a weak championship side at best, Davies was hopeless, and although Lichaj looked tidy on the ball he was crap under pressure. Beye looked light a good right back playing at centre back. Hogg didn't look to be up to it. Not sure about Bannan - moments of skill but his technique didn't impress me as much as I thought. NRC was NRC - battled well, and crucial to breaking up play, but the guy can't do anything with the ball!

Albrighton wasn't top class throughout, but was very good for spells, and easily the best player on the pitch. Downing had a good first half, but poor in the second. Heskey was rubbish and I really hope Gabby or Carew are fit for Sunday.

Overall, pleased with the result, but wasn't left thinking 'this is our version of the West Ham / Man Utd / Leeds youngsters'.

Don't think we can expect to play that team and stay in Europe too long, but might be enough to get to the group stages.

Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 19, 2010, 08:46:37 PM
There was one big difference in the build-up to this game compared to Moscow (and yes Mac, it was you who said it). The manager's attitude before Moscow seemed to be "It's a hard task, we've got other things on and I'm not going to try." This time round it was "Go on lads, we can do this." And they did.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 19, 2010, 08:47:55 PM
To repeat from the match thread the bit of play from Albrighton for the goal was absolutely world class wing play.  Turned the defender inside out and then had the composure too look up and pick out his man in the box.  2 games in now and he's looked top class on both so far.

What a prospect.
Yep, looking forward to seeing him play this season.

He's a kid, so we just need to make sure he's used sparingly. Don't want to burn him out, and the more he plays the more teams will prepare for him. I wouldn't be against us getting another winger because Ash will likely play inside a bit more this season.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 19, 2010, 08:49:53 PM
There was one big difference in the build-up to this game compared to Moscow (and yes Mac, it was you who said it). The manager's attitude before Moscow seemed to be "It's a hard task, we've got other things on and I'm not going to try." This time round it was "Go on lads, we can do this." And they did.
I agree witht that.  With Moscow you just got the feeling that the attitude from the top was "This doesn't matter."  Tonight we went with another inexperienced side but in the expectation that they'd get a result, rather than in hope.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 19, 2010, 08:52:09 PM
Good result, at times our football was at a standard that reflected the players on the pitch.

Davies is now 5th choice centre-back with Beye ahead of him and can leave if/when someone wants him. Downing is still bottling challenges and can give the ball away cheaply and Warnock can be very strange at times.

However, Albrighton played well, Lichaj looks more than adequate to replace L.Young if need be (NOT Cuellar) and Hogg did everything asked of him.

Occassionaly we looked like playing some good football so, once some of these players link in with the first-teamers, hopefully they will come on some more.

An unspectacular, good result, with some good, and bad, points taken from it.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 19, 2010, 08:56:27 PM
Worst. Referee. Ever.

I'm not usually one to go for referees, but my God I've never seen anything to rival this. He literally always gave the opposite of the correct decision, whatever was wrong, he did it. Astonishingly poor. That handball near the end was the last straw for me.

As for the team, inexperience told. They started off really brightly, held the ball so well, but faded around 25 minutes and never really recovered. NRC was good though, I hope he keeps proving me wrong, and Bannan was sprightly and very close to really good on several occasions, so I hope he keeps proving me right. As for the others, Albrighton started well but seemed to be trying too hard, Beye did some good things and some mysterious things, Lichaj kept getting dragged out of position, which was unfortunate, Heskey started ok but it was downhill from there, Downing was generally good but one-footed and should perhaps have played centrally more to give himself more opportunity to do something, Hogg was decent in defence although his positioning was occasionally suspect, Curtis was solid if jumpy and Guzan did nothing wrong and some things very well.

The real worries, though, were Weimann's injury and of course the shocker had by Warnock. I don't know what came over him, but he's been off-form recently and that was the worst of the lot.

Curtis was solid? Not sure which game you were watching. I thought he was pretty shaky and was at fault for their goal thanks to jumping for the header at completely the wrong time. Very poor positioning generally.

Thought the kids did well.

The ref was abysmal, how he got selected by UEFA god only knows.

Have to say, I wasn't focusing greatly on Curtis but I thought he was put into a few problems by Beye, who seemed to like the mad rush ploy. Several "FFS Curtis" moments though, I do recall.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on August 19, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
Well considering we had 8 changes from the West Hammering , loads of kids playing and Emule was on the pitch it is a fantastic result. I wish Warnock would sort himself out, he looks poor at times.
Looking forward to seeing Ireland creating things for us.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 19, 2010, 09:01:40 PM
Decent result and if we play a few first teamers next week we'll win I expect. Thought Albrigton looked good, and Lichaj was decent. I'm concerned over Guzan as he doesn't seem to be improving. Davies and Warnock were very poor and Hogg was anonymous. But overall a decent result, and roll on Sunday.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 19, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
It was a solid enough performance and getting a result of any kind from an away fixture in Europe is decent.

There were mistakes but that's to be expected from such an inexperienced and rusty team.

First part of the job done, we'll finish it off nicely next week with a bit of luck.

Stevenjos has me smiling, he's a funny guy.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Mac on August 19, 2010, 09:05:04 PM
Man of the Match must be Rapid's Nikica Jelavic for refusing to play.  With him in the side the result could have been very different, so ropey was our makeshift defence.

Still we got away with it despite the ref determined to get every decision wrong.  1-1 away from home, not a bad outcome.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 19, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
Look at the team Man City have put out against minnows, still 0-0.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Perry Barr Pet on August 19, 2010, 09:15:08 PM
1-1 was a decent result all things considered.  Not the best we've played, but you got the feeling that, if necessary, changes would have been made.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on August 19, 2010, 09:15:46 PM
Albrighton seems to have a bit of everything required.  Has vision to pick out a pass, can beat a man with pace and trick and is very hard working.  He reminds me a bit of A Young and a bit of Milner.  Can't be bad.  I guess we'll find out about him when defenders know a bit more about him but he's a very exciting prospect.

Dave, I think the difference between the games you mentioned might have as much to do with our expectations and feelings towards the club and team / manager than anything else but I know what you mean.  Indeed, the 'vibe' for want of a better word can come down form from the team and management as much as it can from the fans.  There's definitely a bit of solidarity which feels very good after the past few months.

It doesn't sit well with me that we send out a weakened side but I guess that's the modern game.  It was harsh on Davies (rabbit in the headlights)  and Beye (did OK) and maybe we could've had another couple of seniors in there.  Difficult to argue with the result.

 
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: evalast1910 on August 19, 2010, 09:24:34 PM
Guzan - 5 won't make it at this level at all.
Lee-high - 6 thought he did okay.
Warnock - 4 worse performance in a villa shirt for him
Davies - 3 Pub player
Beye - 4 very poor looked un fit.
Hogg - 8 my man of the match did the simple things right.
NRC - 7 broke up play well.
Albrighton - 8 played will but faded second half
Downing - 6 looks off the pace for me
Bannananana - 7 well taken goal and worked his socks off
He's key - 6 okay just can't shoot!
Fonz - 6 how fast is he really!
Wiemen?
Ozzy?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on August 19, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
Shocking officials and those Rapid fans that threw stuff are complete scum.
I just hope our lot dont retaliate at VP but it wouldnt suprise me.

As for our team.
Firstly the positives: Valuable experience for some of the youngsters, reslilience despite a makeshift team, NRC playing really well, Guzan doing well, wee Barry grabbing a goal. We'll slaughter them at Villa Park (with neutral officials).

The negatives: shaky defending at times but a third choice centre half pairing, Weimann being injured, stevenjos still has internet access.


Overall a good job from a reserve side and we have more strength in depth than we sometimes think perhaps.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 19, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
Guzan - 5 won't make it at this level at all.
Lee-high - 6 thought he did okay.
Warnock - 4 worse performance in a villa shit for him
Davies - 3 Pub player
Beye - 4 very poor looked un fit.
Hogg - 8 my man of the match did the simple things right.
NRC - 7 broke up play well.
Albrighton - 8 played will but faded second half
Downing - 6 looks off the pace for me
Bannananana - 7 well taken goal and worked his socks off
He's key - 6 okay just can't shoot!
Fonz - 6 how fast is he really!
Wiemen?
Ozzy?

I can only assume I don't know who Hogg is, because he did nothing at all.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 19, 2010, 09:31:47 PM
Very pleasing outcome. We have got a good result to bring them back to VP and now we can look forward to Newcastle with a fairly fresh set of players turning out up there.
Lots of positives with Albrighton again outstanding along with Bannan, Hogg and Lichaj looked more than comfortable. Good to see NRC putting in a solid performance.
Obviously a few defensive problems, but this was down the difficulty of operating as a unit which hasnt really played together rather than individual problems. In fact they were getting to grips with things more in the 2nd half.
My biggest worry was Guzan, as he has shown before hes a great shot stopper but judgement isnt always spot on with what he  should and shouldnt come for.
Overall Im really pleased, onward and upward and hopefully looking forward to six european group games .
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 19, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
the most important thing is that we have completely changed our style of play, i thought a decent result and a good work out for the squad.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 19, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Don't mean to knock Hogg, but you've got to be kidding if you think he was one of our better players. Similar with Lichaj.

Albrighton was head and shoulders above other players. Still not sure quite how good he is - sometimes direct young wingers like Luke Chadwick fade away after an initial impact - but potentially a great talent.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 19, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
sometimes direct young wingers like Luke Chadwick fade away after an initial impact
Luke Chadwick's initial impact, and lasting impression, was revulsion.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: jembob on August 19, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
Pleasing result in a pretty intimidating atmosphere which should give some of the youngsters valuable experience.

NRC again showing that he's got plenty to offer us still and even managed to pass the ball to players on his own side.

Curtis Davies - oh dear. He always seems to have plenty to say for himself but tonight's showing was third rate. Even managed to get the basics wrong and he could do with going to the Championship for a year and start learning his job again from scratch. In the meantime shut the feck up.

Guzan ain't going to be good enough ever I'm sorry to say. He is far too vulnerable at set pieces and everybody know it.

Overall, well done evrybody.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Summers on August 19, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
Hogg was a passenger and Reo was having to play both centre positions alone. I wont knock the lad, as he's young and it was a huge occasion but I'm confused as to some of the praise he's got.

Anyway, good result. Took a far weaker team than O'Neill did and did far better. Albrighton is going to be a star. Milner will be City's right winger this year - if Albrighton is set to be ours, we'll have the better one.

Let's finish the job now.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Pants on August 19, 2010, 10:13:09 PM
I know he's been discussed endlessly but has there ever been a more frustrating player than Emile Heskey? Hope his appearances this season are few and far between.

Any news on the Weimann injury?
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: j66acd on August 19, 2010, 10:13:46 PM
Worst part of the game was Iain Dowie's commentry, worse than the ref's and Curtis Davies' performance put together. Made me laugh when he started to say how good osbourne's brother was at Coventry! Who gives a shit potato head mk2.

Just about did enough though, confident that with a full team we will spank them next week.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Perry Barr Pet on August 19, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
Ruptured ligaments apparently.




Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hollybobble on August 19, 2010, 10:26:11 PM
i have to say beye looks a better centre half than right back ,today he looked composed. trying not too get too excited about albrighton but its hard and bazza is the new strachan
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 19, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
It was Beye stepping out that had a big hand in their goal. If he had not done that then there was a chance he would have cut out the ball after Curtis jumped with the striker and before Lichaj and the other player ran in. Apart from that he did appear to have a better game then Davies but that is not saying much.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: hollybobble on August 19, 2010, 10:40:06 PM
yeshes not in my first x1 he looked better than i have seen him. i thought guzan might have done better or the goal as well
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 19, 2010, 10:45:49 PM
There was one big difference in the build-up to this game compared to Moscow (and yes Mac, it was you who said it). The manager's attitude before Moscow seemed to be "It's a hard task, we've got other things on and I'm not going to try." This time round it was "Go on lads, we can do this." And they did.

The other big difference was it was the first leg. we could take a risk and still have a chance of redeeming it, we'd already ballsed that up against Moscow.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: sfx412 on August 19, 2010, 11:04:36 PM
Thought the defence was all at sea for most of the game, the 2 cb's have obviously never played together before and were poor.
Both fullbacks were awful, what has happened to Warnock.
Coker and Albrighton did well, but the rest mediocre to awful after the first goal was scored. If our future depends on the likes of Guzan, Hogg, Bannan, Lichaj, Osborne there isn't one.
Sorry and all that in this time of need to be positive since the little shit walked.
OK job done, but what the sweet fck is the club doing depending on untried kids away in Europe even if the opposition looked awful until after they fluked a goal. It was wrong when we lost to them last season, wrong when we scrambled out against Moscow, just because an untried, unknown reserve team coach has the job, why is most everyone being so delicate.
Job done indeed, and a team with more of the first picks in it will do them, hopefully, but it sends me the wrong message, and you can bluster all you like had Mon picked that side, he'd need sacking.
what's very worrying is the possibility its  club policy and has always been maybe I should ask the General, but it would be a waste of time.
Randy sort it out quick please, whatever it is.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 19, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
Guzan - 5 won't make it at this level at all.
Lee-high - 6 thought he did okay.
Warnock - 4 worse performance in a villa shirt for him
Davies - 3 Pub player
Beye - 4 very poor looked un fit.
Hogg - 8 my man of the match did the simple things right.
NRC - 7 broke up play well.
Albrighton - 8 played will but faded second half
Downing - 6 looks off the pace for me
Bannananana - 7 well taken goal and worked his socks off
He's key - 6 okay just can't shoot!
Fonz - 6 how fast is he really!
Wiemen?
Ozzy?

Hogg?

I was thinking it was one of the most anonymous performances I've seen from a Villa player for a very long time. Early days for him, and it was his debut, but I thought he was a passenger.

Warnock is starting to worry me, Davies looks deeply unconvincing still, I can't tell if Beye's languid style is about him being confident or unfit, and Guzan looked like an accident waiting to happen for long spells.

The rest did ok, I think. Albrighton just looks better and better, Bannan did well, Downing ok, Heskey I thought worked hard and did well in the build up for the goal, NRC worked his socks off.

I was a bit worried when I saw the line up, and a bit annoyed we looked to be taking it lightly again, and to be honest, Rapid created enough chances to beat us.

Play a stronger team in the second leg, and we'll be through ok, though.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 19, 2010, 11:09:27 PM
How can you judge the future of players in their first few games. Don't be silly Malcolm, a much more experienced side went to this intimidating atmosphere last year and got a worse result. The only thing that matters in cup competitions is getting to the next round, not the performance. We should easily make it past them next week and some of our important players will be fresh for a very tough away game on Sunday. Look at the bigger picture instead of what's at the end of your nose.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on August 19, 2010, 11:17:03 PM
 I read the quotes that came out of the Vienna camp early in the week, saying that it would be unlikely that we went there and underestimated them.  When I saw the team sheet I nearly let a little poo out  :o 
  I don't agree with the selection but you can't argue witht the result. They didn't show anything we should be scared of when we play at HQ, with another CM alongside NRC we'dhave seen a lot more of the ball. Hogg ran around a lot but just wasn't on the radar. And Lichaj needs a swift lesson in man marking before he sets foot anywhere near the Premier League. Against a better opposition he would have been eaten alive.
 Guzan does not inspire confidence. He flaps worse than James.
 Felt sorry for Beye and Davies, neither has see a competitive 90 minutes for too long.  You could tell M'oN's gone we had a RB at CB!! Never thought I'd see the day.
 But for homework this week I'd like to ask you to answer the following question:  "Emile Heskey.  Why?"
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: richardhubbard on August 19, 2010, 11:27:28 PM
Comments from certain players re Hogg, give him a chance he is a kid
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on August 19, 2010, 11:59:13 PM
I agree Richard, I can't believe what I'm reading.

I was proud of the team tonight. Very young players thrust into a bear pit of a stadium and all the hostility that came with it.

Who knows if these youngsters can go all the way. What I do know is they all put in a performance which has put the team in the box seat next week.

Well done Villa.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Dan England on August 20, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
Davies looked extremely out paced.

Hogg was anonymous.

Guzan flapped at any ball in the box over head height.

Heskey please tell me why??? He is as dangerous as a dandelion.

NRC workman like gave 100%.

Bannan good start weakened 2nd half

Albrighton was excellent again.

Downing had an indifferent game.

Don't think Warnock was quite as bad as some suggest.

Lichaj and Beye were reasonable.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 20, 2010, 12:16:45 AM
Davies looked extremely out paced.

Hogg was anonymous.

Guzan flapped at any ball in the box over head height.

Heskey please tell me why??? He is as dangerous as a dandelion.

NRC workman like gave 100%.

Bannan good start weakened 2nd half

Albrighton was excellent again.

Downing had an indifferent game.

Don't think Warnock was quite as bad as some suggest.

Lichaj and Beye were reasonable.

More or less agree with all that. NRC would have had a great game if only the ref had a clue.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: BannedUserIAT on August 20, 2010, 12:43:08 AM
Albrighton seems to have a bit of everything required.  Has vision to pick out a pass, can beat a man with pace and trick and is very hard working.  He reminds me a bit of A Young and a bit of Milner.  Can't be bad.  I guess we'll find out about him when defenders know a bit more about him but he's a very exciting prospect.

Dave, I think the difference between the games you mentioned might have as much to do with our expectations and feelings towards the club and team / manager than anything else but I know what you mean.  Indeed, the 'vibe' for want of a better word can come down form from the team and management as much as it can from the fans.  There's definitely a bit of solidarity which feels very good after the past few months.

From Soccernet:

Quote
"I'm very proud indeed,'' said MacDonald when asked for his feelings on his young players. "It was an education for the boys, who played in patches, but I was pleased with all of them because it's not an easy place to come. But it was gratifying to score a goal away from home, with the two of them (Bannan and Albrighton) doing very well. It was a good finish, a good goal, and I'm sure you could see the elation in their faces when we did score. There's a very strong camaraderie amongst that group of players.''

How far they go could depend on whether MacDonald is handed the reins on a full-time basis as he is clearly prepared to give them a chance, whereas a new manager may not be so generous.

"They're now getting to the age of 19, 20, 21 where they need to start picking up their education and development if they want to make it into the first team,'' added MacDonald. "There has been a lot of clubs enquiring about them going on loan, but at this moment in time, with the uncertainty, it'd probably be beneficial for them to stay around and see. How far they eventually all go depends on a little bit of luck, and also the application they put in over the next few years.''
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: BannedUserIAT on August 20, 2010, 12:44:15 AM
Shocking officials and those Rapid fans that threw stuff are complete scum.

Maybe they saw last weekends reports about Cackbeard and thought it was a Brummie tradition?

:)
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on August 20, 2010, 01:33:45 AM
Thought that Lichaj was dissapointing.

Couldn't seem to be able to keep his head, and made a lot of rash challenges. Not 100% sure if he's got the composure to play in the prem.

Oh. And he looks like Roy Keane.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on August 20, 2010, 01:34:50 AM
Wouldn't trust the defence, Beye is not a Centre Back and it seems neither is Curtis.  Can't see an issue at VP with a proper defence out.  I'm unaware of the circumstances in which Weimann left Rapid, but whatever they may be, it doesn't condone their fans behaviour tonight.  I don't think the incident will have gone unnoticed by other fans, and i think it may have a lasting effect on their reputation.  God knows they deserve it, horrible fans and by extension, horrible club
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 20, 2010, 07:24:48 AM
I have to say I am saddened by the very negative comments about Hogg.
I didnt think we were being particularly overun in the midfield. His job wasnt about making the exciting runs we saw from Albrighton and Bannan, but I do remember some good passes from him and an effective run bringing the ball out of danger late in the game. Just because a player doesnt have a couple of really stand out memorable tackles or passes in a game doesnt mean their overall effectiveness in the game hasnt been there.
But whatever the pros and cons of his performance, statements like "the most anonymous performance I have ever seen" on a young players debut seem harsh in the extreme.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: nick harper on August 20, 2010, 08:07:47 AM
I think some of the criticism is pretty harsh given the result and the way they stuck at it during difficult periods of the match.

Given it was Davies's first full game for 12 months, he looked pretty rusty but improved as the game went on. Lichaj, Hogg and Bannan showed enough on their debuts to suggest they will be given further opportunities and can be part of the first team squad.

Heskey led the line reasonably but I agree with the comment Dowie made about him lacking the confidence to drive towards the penalty area when he has the opportunity to do so. He simply lacks that aggression and will.

Albrighton was our biggest threat and may well turn out be the summer signing we didn't have to make and I thought NRC led by example even though he too needs games to build up a bit of confidence.

All in all a good result and credit to McDonald for his faith in them considering he would have been heavily criticised had we lost.

Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 20, 2010, 08:12:53 AM
Fuck me - Man U  / Arsenal and co do this all the time and are fawned over in the press and admired by a lot of neutral fans - we do it and all our lot do is pick holes in it

Guzan - for all the concerns i do have over his arial work - boy he is tough as old boots - when he came out and collected the ball and took the players head off was superb - just what you expect froma  keeper

Lijah - positionally he looked what he was - a rookie - given the circumstances not a bad game

Davies - Bye bye  - not good enough

Beye - loaps about but apart from position for goal thought he did ok

Warnock - not sure why he is getting so much grief tbh

Albrighton - does a little too much sometimes but bloody exciting to watch whoever he played for - and to think he is ours!

Hogg - May not have caught the eye as such but no fuck ups either - considering it was he denut he can be very proud, the run out of defence towards the end showed his fitness and his understanding of the game

NRC - after being booked i winced every time he went into a tackle - very good game at what he does best - i think the european refs dont like tackling at all

Downing - started well pinging passes around - then went of the pace - but in 2 games i see more of the real player than last year

Bannan - at times his touch and turns were superb - might have been more effective if the lump could have held the ball and fed him - great movement for the goal

Heskey - I try not to just slag players for the sake of it - but i really cannot see anything he brings to the team or the game - total liability and i looked more like scoring in my living room

Kev Mac - balls, beleif in his own ability and lots of belief in the kids ability - win at the bar codes and no brainer but to give him a go - there is a part of me that thinks he does not want the hassle - hope i am wrong

 
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on August 20, 2010, 08:24:06 AM
Well done to the team/squad that went out there to play for the Villa, very happy today.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2010, 08:26:05 AM
Considering the team and the result, I'm happy.

Now let's do the business Sunday
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
A fantastic effort by the team that was put out. When i heard the line up on the way home from work, i did fear the worst, so i would have taken that result there and then.

Well done lads.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: andyh on August 20, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
Happy with result given the team that was put out. I think we can consider that 'job done'.
However, special praise must be given to Emile Heskey.
He really is a model of consistency, and regardless of the opposition, quality of the team around him and playing conditions, you can guarantee that he will put in a performance that is embarrassing, pathetic, toothless and ineffectual.
He really is a waste of space.
 
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: JD on August 20, 2010, 08:59:53 AM
Well done to them all tonight.

Great experience for a few, did the job to put us in a strong position next week. It's very difficult to blood youngsters these days in league games so MacDonald did the right thing by giving them the chance any they took it.
Totally agree Chris. Kevin Mac is giving all an opportunity to show their worth. I can't belive some of the criticism tonight about the team selection and performance.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 20, 2010, 09:06:56 AM
Guzan - 5 won't make it at this level at all.
Lee-high - 6 thought he did okay.
Warnock - 4 worse performance in a villa shirt for him
Davies - 3 Pub player
Beye - 4 very poor looked un fit.
Hogg - 8 my man of the match did the simple things right.
NRC - 7 broke up play well.
Albrighton - 8 played will but faded second half
Downing - 6 looks off the pace for me
Bannananana - 7 well taken goal and worked his socks off
He's key - 6 okay just can't shoot!
Fonz - 6 how fast is he really!
Wiemen?
Ozzy?

I don't think Hogg touched the ball.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
I didn't even realise Hogg was on the pitch.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on August 20, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
Great result and for a team made up almost entirely of reserves. Good experience for some of the young lads who may have to step up again at Newcastle on Sunday.

Oh and an excellent away performance in Europe that should set us up to qualify for the group stages.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: john e on August 20, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
Good result, alright performance with a understrengh team

my only negative is that Downing,

 in a game like that with a sprinkling of youth players and fringe players, and with the opposition as average as rapid, should be a absolute stand out player, head and shoulders above the rest,

showing a bit more quality than the rest, but he doesnt, he just looks as average as anyone else on the pitch,
not sure he's going to up his game this season yet, not sure he can to be honest
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: andyh on August 20, 2010, 09:20:58 AM
Good result, alright performance with a understrengh team

my only negative is that Downing,

 in a game like that with a sprinkling of youth players and fringe players, and with the opposition as average as rapid, should be a absolute stand out player, head and shoulders above the rest,

showing a bit more quality than the rest, but he doesnt, he just looks as average as anyone else on the pitch,
not sure he's going to up his game this season yet, not sure he can to be honest
Come on John, you know thats not fair.
He missed pre season last year with a bad injury didn't he !!! (winky)

Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on August 20, 2010, 09:21:08 AM
I think this game showed both the benefits and drawbacks of these sort of mass changes to the side.  We started well and were the better side, which shows the ability is there with these players.  But then a bit of a lucky goal thanks to a back 4 and keeper unused to playing together and we're on the back foot, which is where the experience and strength of the senior players would have been useful.  I've always been an advocate of changing things partly, so that we take 4 or 5 out and bring 4 or 5 in.  Still the result was good enough that we should go through to the group stages.

Thought Heskey was decent and had a hand in our goal.  Albrighton MOM again and some of the Hogg criticism may be a bit uncalled for, but he didn't get on the ball much.  And we looked week and CB - Clark should have played!

For them that Hoffman looked a good player!     
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on August 20, 2010, 09:26:50 AM
Comments from certain players re Hogg, give him a chance he is a kid
He's 21 though, so not exactly a kid at this stage. I realise he had a bad injury a couple of years ago, but still......
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Namaste on August 20, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
Proud of the team we put out yesterday and the overall performance was encouraging.

Albrighton was MOTM by far, Bannan also looked very assured and pacy. Also impressed with Lichaj who defended soundly.

Reo-Coker also had a strong display.

The defence was pretty average and based on that performance I'd say Davies is fifth choice centre-back after Dunne, Cuellar, Collins and Clark. Davies had poor positional sense, cost us the goal and very nearly another with conceding a stupid free-kick! I'd much rather see Clark ahead of him.

Apart from that Hogg seemed ok and the criticism is unfair in my opinion.

It's great to see these youth players coming through to the first team now and that's thanks to Kevin MacDonald.

UTV.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 20, 2010, 10:10:26 AM
Good result, alright performance with a understrengh team

my only negative is that Downing,

 in a game like that with a sprinkling of youth players and fringe players, and with the opposition as average as rapid, should be a absolute stand out player, head and shoulders above the rest,

showing a bit more quality than the rest, but he doesnt, he just looks as average as anyone else on the pitch,
not sure he's going to up his game this season yet, not sure he can to be honest

And the experieenced Warnock put in such a good show!
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: kipeye on August 20, 2010, 10:30:20 AM
I think the main factor from this game was the lack of communication-particularly between the defence and midfield. But then again what can you expect when they have not played a competitive game together.
Everyone of them will be better for that game and none should be judged on that performance.
Allbrighton is certainly a stand-out player and makes far more impact than Downing.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 20, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Reo Coker had a good game in terms of effort and winning the ball back, but I don't think he should cross the halfway line. Sometimes going forward he looks awful. Looks like he's always about to fall over the ball.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 20, 2010, 10:52:03 AM
Bannans goal for those that hadn't seen it.
http://www.betscout.com/highlights/play/898887/7218
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: BannedUserIAT on August 20, 2010, 11:04:38 AM
WE can't argue that having a highly variable squad is nothing but a good thing. Yes, there'll be teething problems whilst the players get used to each other in a real match but the medium-term advantages are huge.

Kudos to K-Mac for doing it. I know he had some of those changes forced upon him but by no means all of them. With the current issues the club finds itself in, it's a brave move. But it's the correct move and it will pay off in time.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on August 20, 2010, 11:23:15 AM
personally, i am delighted that he is taking these "gambles"... they are unsefish gambles, as if they fail, then its he loses the chance of getting the job full time, but its great he is not afraid to make bold decisions...

some of them didnt work last night, but a lot did, and its exciting to know that we wont be predictable in our starting line up like we have been recently, and that in itself, keeps the opposition guessing...

pleased with the lads last night, it was a difficult game for the young lads, and most did well...

shame heskey and davies let them down with two eally shit performances....
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: kipeye on August 20, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
Speaking of K-Mac-at least he had the bottle and the decency to explain his selection beforehand and was fully prepared to take the flak if he got it wrong.
This is very different to what happened previously.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on August 20, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
Speaking of K-Mac-at least he had the bottle and the decency to explain his selection beforehand and was fully prepared to take the flak if he got it wrong.
This is very different to what happened previously.

In fairness I think that's now club policy after Moscow.  MON said if he was ever going to do such a thing again he'd make it clear to the fans first so they could decide whether to travel or not.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: sfx412 on August 20, 2010, 11:45:34 AM
I still say choosing that side on top of previous sides put out by Mon in the same competition really asks do we want to play in it in the first place.
Seems to me especially from Km's after match comments he used it as an evaluation exercise on the kids.
Man City and Liverpool's team picks looked like they took it more seriously.
Maybe they just have bigger and better squads
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 20, 2010, 11:46:48 AM
Good result, alright performance with a understrengh team

my only negative is that Downing,

 in a game like that with a sprinkling of youth players and fringe players, and with the opposition as average as rapid, should be a absolute stand out player, head and shoulders above the rest,

showing a bit more quality than the rest, but he doesnt, he just looks as average as anyone else on the pitch,
not sure he's going to up his game this season yet, not sure he can to be honest

I thought Downing did OK yesterday.

He didn't grab the game by the scruff of the neck, but he's not that kind of player.

Some nice deliveries and sharp passing in dangerous areas.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on August 20, 2010, 12:36:57 PM
I still say choosing that side on top of previous sides put out by Mon in the same competition really asks do we want to play in it in the first place.
Seems to me especially from Km's after match comments he used it as an evaluation exercise on the kids.

Well if we are going to go out of this competition it would be better to blow up now rather than in the group stages when we have to play another 5 games.  This was maybe a way of looking at the depth of our squad to see if we can maintain a challenge in Europe and the PL and the domestic cups.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 20, 2010, 12:39:38 PM
I watched the game with no sound so had a different perspective to some.

Very bright start from Bannan and Albrighton. Downing was alright and I thought Heskey was too. Useful in terms of helping the young lads through.

Reo Coker had a good game.

A better side might have given us a pasting with how we defended but, as long as we stick a better team out next Thursday, we should be thorugh comfortably.

Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: richardhubbard on August 20, 2010, 12:45:12 PM
Comments from certain players re Hogg, give him a chance he is a kid
He's 21 though, so not exactly a kid at this stage. I realise he had a bad injury a couple of years ago, but still......

Still what? he was making is first debut against a decent foreign team FFS.

Take day one of your job you had a blinder
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on August 20, 2010, 01:01:03 PM
I still say choosing that side on top of previous sides put out by Mon in the same competition really asks do we want to play in it in the first place.
Seems to me especially from Km's after match comments he used it as an evaluation exercise on the kids.
Man City and Liverpool's team picks looked like they took it more seriously.
Maybe they just have bigger and better squads
I'd take our away result a million times over Liverpools.We hopefully should go through at home.It will be hard for them in the away leg
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: evalast1910 on August 20, 2010, 02:33:11 PM
Hogg did everything that would be asked of him, he won the ball and played it simple and at the end ran the ball out of defence and one a valuable free-kick. The fact most people didn't notice him, well he was positioned well throughout the game and won the ball when required, he played like Hargreaves use to just sit win the ball and play it. And I think the criticism is uncalled for personally.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 20, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
Guzan - He was fairly good I thought. Didn't make any clangers

Lichaj - I thought he played well. Didn't see him do much wrong.
Beye - A bit dodgy at times but he was playing in a less favoured position.
Davies - Abysmal.
Warnock - The more I watch him the less impressed I get.

Albrighton - Brilliant as ever. My MOTM. He is a really exciting player to watch.
Hogg - Fairly unnoticeable but he did nothing wrong. Pass marks.
Reo-Coker - Good at times. Later on his passing was as bad as ever mind.
Downing - The lad did okay. Nothing special mind. Some people on here just seem to be waiting for him to fail.
Bannan - Another guy who did well for me. Albrighton's nearest rival from MOTM.

Heskey - No surprises. He played like he always plays he did well enough in the Heskey role but the Heskey role is not something we need.

Kevin Mac - He made a gutsy and bold selection and well, the result was decent enough so his decision worked. With our injuries and the need to rest one or two players ahead of the match against Newcastle it was good management of his resources.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 20, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
I still say choosing that side on top of previous sides put out by Mon in the same competition really asks do we want to play in it in the first place.
Seems to me especially from Km's after match comments he used it as an evaluation exercise on the kids.
Man City and Liverpool's team picks looked like they took it more seriously.
Maybe they just have bigger and better squads

There's no maybe about it, which isn't surprising when you take into account they've spent 3 times more on their squads.

Liverpool made 7 changes from their starting line-up at the weekend and Cole only played because he's banned for the next 3 PL games.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: frank on August 20, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
If you travel to European games you'll probably agree that the game is only part of the experience. Socially, the trip was a huge success. 4 regulars from H&V (DC5, villajk, fasth56 and I) found a couple of very nice beergardens for the pre- and post-match sessions and spent most of the evening with Stefano (Archie) and Silvano from the Latin Lions: a real pleasure.
The match was certainly better than last year's display in Vienna. I think the gamble of playing such an inexperienced team just about paid off. Bannan, Lichaj and Hogg can only benefit from playing against tough opponents in front of a very partisan crowd and it was useful for players like Beye and Davies to get in a full 90 minutes. I was impressed by Guzan and also Davies. We didn't get a good view of our defence at the far end in the first half (we were watching the match through a huge safety net) and it may well be that Davies was partly at fault for their goal, but I thought he defended effectively in the second half. NRC led the side well and was strong in defence, but going forward the final pass too often misses the target. After an excellent start, Albrighton was less impressive than against West Ham, with his first touch letting him down, but he still looks a very promising player for this season. Heskey, apart from releasing Albrighton for the pass which produced the goal, was very poor. Perhaps Ashley and Gabby read him better than last night's players, but his flicks and lay-offs were mostly unproductive.
The Rapid fans disappointed me this time. Their booing and jeering whenever Guzan took a goal kick contributed to the referee booking him (unjustly) for time-wasting and they did their best to pressure him into giving a penalty against Guzan in the second half. The coin-throwing incident was a disgrace, as was the reaction to Weimann's injury. His family were there, and it must have been very upsetting for them.
I was very glad I went. Vienna's a great city, the weather was lovely, the company was excellent and Villa's developing team shows much promise for the future.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 20, 2010, 05:04:22 PM
You bugger Frank.

I spent two days stuck solidly in meetings and exams in London, got soaked legging it from New Street to Poppy Red for a game I had to watch with no sound!
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: davevillan on August 20, 2010, 05:06:20 PM
I still say choosing that side on top of previous sides put out by Mon in the same competition really asks do we want to play in it in the first place.
Seems to me especially from Km's after match comments he used it as an evaluation exercise on the kids.
Man City and Liverpool's team picks looked like they took it more seriously.
Maybe they just have bigger and better squads
He explained his reasons on tv before. It was to do with players being injured/suspended, and having travelled the previous mid-week on international duty. Also with one eye on the Barcodes game on Sunday. Look at the starting line up, there was plenty of 1st team experience out there. He picked a team he felt would get a result against that side, and he was proved correct.
Its a pity the media chose to ignore his reasoning and used the Moscow episode to criticise the selection.
No doubt he will pick a stronger team next week, hopefully get the tie won in the first half, then make the subs in the 2nd to rest some.
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 20, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
agreed
i thought their fans at the tie vs them last season were impressive in their vocal support etc

but they really 'blotted their copy book' to put it mildly last night

we did well with such a makeshift side
everyone had a good idea what to do going forwards with the ball(runs off it etc)
but we sorely lacked leadership at the back and were fairly pants(organisationally)
so we got away with it and should  progress in the home leg

I hope the viennese behave them selves in Brum or they may get a slap ;)
Title: Re: Rapid Vienna 1 - 1 Aston Villa - Post Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 21, 2010, 02:11:04 AM
I’ve only been back about 2 hours from the trip and I have to say it was one of the best European trips of the recent games. Absolutely top draw couple of days out there.

The Rapid fans were generally sound as you like in the pubs and bars before the game, they kept buying us rounds of drinks left right and centre. They do like to give it the big one inside the ground mind, but then you can afford to be brave when there are two 6 foot high metal fences keeping you separated. The wankers were throwing things into our end after the final whistle, having lobbed stuff at our players, as you’d know. Nice to see the English ladies team join us too, even though one was outed as a Nose.

The game was alright to be fair and I thought we did ok. Albrighton good in patches, as was wee Barry. NRC was man of the match for me and I managed to shake his hand and give him some words of encouragement, thanks to the local plod locking us in after the game. Nigel’s a top bloke, a great salute to the racist twats at the end. Guzan was another class act. I also informed as many Villa players as possible to smash those Jawdee tossers on Sunday, which they appreciated. Warnock and Fridel seemed to like the idea.

Vienna wasn’t prepared for the quality of dance moves on show from our lot in the 80’s club after the game. Spell binding manoeuvres on the dance floor that John Travolta would have been proud of.

Scott Arms Villa, looking mean with the pina coladas!
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