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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PaulTheVillan on August 14, 2010, 08:31:07 AM
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By the stadium announcer today, will you?
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I'm going to have to ignore him, but I reckon he'll be on the bench today.
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as far as im concerned whilst he wears the Villa shirt he is one of our players and booing your own players before they have kicked a ball and during the game is not acceptable, after the game if he does not try, etc then its fair game as it will only help the opposition and today of all days kevin macdonald and the team need our full support
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Ideal scenario for me would be us 4-0 up with a minute to go and Kevin Mac brings him on as a sub so we can say a "special goodbye".
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U need to be carefull with your "special goodbye" as its not guaranteed he is going anywhere yet........if he is still here on 01/09/10 we will need him if we are going to challenge this season.....best save the abuse for when he comes back as an opposition player
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A big bag of nothingness from me.
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Sing. One James Milner there's only one James Milner !!!!
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Not once has James cone out and said he wants to leave!!! He has been told to leave cause villa need the money so he will play his heartvout. If he wanted tobleabe s transfer request would be in and he would of asked not to be in squad today
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as far as im concerned whilst he wears the Villa shirt he is one of our players and booing your own players before they have kicked a ball and during the game is not acceptable, after the game if he does not try, etc then its fair game as it will only help the opposition and today of all days kevin macdonald and the team need our full support
This.
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Get behind him. Milner's a true professional who will always give 100% regardless of whats going on.
I hate hypocrites who slag players off for wanting to move to (what will probably over the coming years) a more succesful club for more money. You would do exactly the same in your job.
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I think if he plays, the team should run out to the tune of ' money makes the world go around, the world go around .... money money money money .....' lol
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Milner has put his heart and soul playing for the club beyond a lot of other players.If Heskey, Davies and Petrov had showed his application throughout their time with us maybe we would have sneaked fourth.
There is no reason not to cheer and support him.
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Not once has James cone out and said he wants to leave!!! He has been told to leave cause villa need the money so he will play his heartvout. If he wanted tobleabe s transfer request would be in and he would of asked not to be in squad today
When he says he doesn't really want to leave is when I'll think he doesn't want to leave. I'll be ignoring him.
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as far as im concerned whilst he wears the Villa shirt he is one of our players and booing your own players before they have kicked a ball and during the game is not acceptable, after the game if he does not try, etc then its fair game as it will only help the opposition and today of all days kevin macdonald and the team need our full support
This.
I agree with that too; I hope people don't boo him.
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Cheer him. Yes, it's crap that he's leaving but he clearly is only leaving because of the money situation.
He deserves to be cheered for what he's done for Aston Villa the previous seasons.
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Can't see why anyone would boo him. He never asked to leave, the only guy who said he did is the ex-manager and we all know how reliable his word is.
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Can't see why anyone would boo him. He never asked to leave, the only guy who said he did is the ex-manager and we all know how reliable his word is.
With respect Greg, he must have asked to leave.
I can't stand him already !
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Can't see why anyone would boo him. He never asked to leave, the only guy who said he did is the ex-manager and we all know how reliable his word is.
Of course he wants to leave you dopey sod. The meeting where he told them was with Lerner, Faulkner and MON and since then the first two have been trying to get the best deal they can for him.
I really hope the wanker doesn't start, I won't boo but plenty will and we don't need that as we've got a tough enough job as it is.
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Not once has James cone out and said he wants to leave!!! He has been told to leave cause villa need the money so he will play his heartvout. If he wanted tobleabe s transfer request would be in and he would of asked not to be in squad today
& not once has he said he wants to stay either .
he's no different to 99.9% of footballers today & he will go where the money is regardless of any contract they may be tied too .
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I think staying silent has more of an effect than booing him. Makes us lot look better than the money grabbing cnut ...
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I won't be booing Milner, not whilst wearing a Villa shirt anyway.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
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I would suggest any booing is saved for if and when he is in an opposition shirt. Todays game is extremely important, the display and result could set the tone for the season. Assuming we want success I suggest we get behind anybody who is still with us at this time.
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Can't see why anyone would boo him. He never asked to leave, the only guy who said he did is the ex-manager and we all know how reliable his word is.
Will you be applauding when he's name's read out at the ground then Greg?
Oh wait..........
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Complete silence is what i'm hoping for.
Monkey faced deserting bastard.
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I won't ignore him but I certainly won't be clapping like I've got an elastic band around my wrists.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
This "did he want to leave" stuff is a bit of a nonsense.If you are a professional footballer, and you have the chance to move from a club stuck at around 6th to one which is prepared to improve your wages by tens of thousands of pounds a week and is buying the best talent in the world, with the realistic prospect of challenging for the highest honours, who would not want to leave for that?
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Yes I know he wants to leave but if he is on the pitch in Claret & Blue I will cheer him.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
This "did he want to leave" stuff is a bit of a nonsense.If you are a professional footballer, and you have the chance to move from a club stuck at around 6th to one which is prepared to improve your wages by tens of thousands of pounds a week and is buying the best talent in the world, with the realistic prospect of challenging for the highest honours, who would not want to leave for that?
Someone who wants to play every week.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
This "did he want to leave" stuff is a bit of a nonsense.If you are a professional footballer, and you have the chance to move from a club stuck at around 6th to one which is prepared to improve your wages by tens of thousands of pounds a week and is buying the best talent in the world, with the realistic prospect of challenging for the highest honours, who would not want to leave for that?
Someone who wants to play every week.
It's only at clubs who refuse to rotate their squad adequately where players are guaranteed to play every week.
If Milner goes to Man City he'll play far more than he sits out. The idea that he's going to be some sort of spare part up there is nonsense.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
This "did he want to leave" stuff is a bit of a nonsense.If you are a professional footballer, and you have the chance to move from a club stuck at around 6th to one which is prepared to improve your wages by tens of thousands of pounds a week and is buying the best talent in the world, with the realistic prospect of challenging for the highest honours, who would not want to leave for that?
Someone who wants to play every week.
..when not injured.
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Milner has put his heart and soul playing for the club beyond a lot of other players.If Heskey, Davies and Petrov had showed his application throughout their time with us maybe we would have sneaked fourth.
There is no reson not to cheer and support him.
Questioning Petrov's effort is absolutely ridiculous.
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Milner has put his heart and soul playing for the club beyond a lot of other players.If Heskey, Davies and Petrov had showed his application throughout their time with us maybe we would have sneaked fourth.
There is no reson not to cheer and support him.
Questioning Petrov's effort is absolutely ridiculous.
I agree. It's not his fault he runs about as fast as an 80 year old.
Question his ability, yes. Commitment, no.
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This is a great question and one where I believe we often let ourselves down.
The generally shocking treatment we reserve for our ex players is the one thing that constantly irks me about our support and I hope we don't give the media an opportunity to lay in to us. We already have an unfair reputation for being fickle in cetrain areas of the media - mostly thanks to O'Fuckwit (that's DOL not MON) and his ridiculous ignorant comments. Unfortunatley, that mantle has stuck for many.
Let's show some dignity and get behind the lad and the team.
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Greg, he did want to leave.... i know for a fact
This "did he want to leave" stuff is a bit of a nonsense.If you are a professional footballer, and you have the chance to move from a club stuck at around 6th to one which is prepared to improve your wages by tens of thousands of pounds a week and is buying the best talent in the world, with the realistic prospect of challenging for the highest honours, who would not want to leave for that?
Someone who wants to play every week.
It's only at clubs who refuse to rotate their squad adequately where players are guaranteed to play every week.
Tell that to Frank Lampard.
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After chanting Gareth Barry's name on the last day of the season (and his last game) in an attempt to convince him to stay and witnessing what happend, I will be ignoring Milner and hopes he makes his mind up soon. Stay put or fuck off.
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Everybody loves pantomine booing. Especially our last manager. It will give fuck wits in the media something to talk shit about.
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After chanting Gareth Barry's name on the last day of the season (and his last game) in an attempt to convince him to stay and witnessing what happend, I will be ignoring Milner and hopes he makes his mind up soon. Stay put or fuck off.
His mind his made up, if/when Man City settle with Ireland he'll be gone.
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I won't boo him, but fuck all this "cheer him" nonsense that 17 soft tarts have voted for.
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Tell that to Frank Lampard.
That's some crazy logic you got there: Lampard plays the majority of Chelsea's games, therefore Milner won't for Man City.
I expect Milner to play far more often than not and, on the occasions when he doesn't play, no doubt he'll be grateful for the rest. Which, given his style of play, is entirely understandable. Except if you happen to be Martin O'Neill.
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Tell that to Frank Lampard.
That's some crazy logic you got there: Lampard plays the majority of Chelsea's games, therefore Milner won't for Man City.
You said "It's only at clubs who refuse to rotate their squad adequately where players are guaranteed to play every week." That is clearly a load of bollocks.
The facts are that the best players tend to play the majority of games even at the most succesful clubs.
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I wouldn't boo him, purely because I don't want it affecting Villa. But the idea that Milner hasn't come out saying he wants to leave means nothing, his silence confirmed it.
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There's only one Stephen Ireland
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we need to get behind everyone in a villa shirt today, it has been a difficult week for everyone at the club - the fans, players and board included.
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You said "It's only at clubs who refuse to rotate their squad adequately where players are guaranteed to play every week." That is clearly a load of bollocks.
The facts are that the best players tend to play the majority of games even at the most succesful clubs.
None of which supports your view that Milner will somehow be sitting out a lot of the season at Man City, which is how this started.
The number of players who literally play every game are few and far between. Either they have incredible stamina, they are too important to drop, or there is no alternative. Or in some cases all three. There were only 14 players who played in all 38 games last season, and 6 of those were goalkeepers.
What you're implying is that Milner is choosing to move to a club because he will be paid an awful lot of money for doing very little. And that is nonsense.
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I won't boo him, but fuck all this "cheer him" nonsense that 17 soft tarts have voted for.
I agree, really he should be nowhere near the first team so we shouldn't be in this situation. He wanted to leave I'd rather his place was taken by a hungry reserve or youth player that wants to give 100% for Villa although it is starting to grate that most people just see us as a stepping stone to 3 x their weekly salary. You can't blame Jimmy, he's not a Villa fan, he's got no loyalty to us, Barry taught us that.
But it gets on my nerves how Man City fans get on their high horse about us waving fake notes at Barry when he came back - lets be fair if my wife after 10 years of marriage said she wanted to leave me for Brad Pitt it would upset me but I'd get over it, turning up trying to justify shacking up with Bernard Manning leaves a sour taste.
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Sing. One James Milner there's only one James Milner !!!!
Why on Earth would you do that or give him a special send off??? Im not going to boo any of my own team but I'm certainly not going to make things any easier for him about leaving. He's going for the money end of story, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't somewhere else next season after getting frustrated on their bench.
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Let me get this right....
We have an Aston Villa player who will soon move to Man C and MAKE us £14 MILLION POUNDS!
He gave/gives 100% when ever he plays but want to move to another club which has offered to double his wages......
And some of you are saying boo him???
Fuckin wasters
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Let me get this right....
We have an Aston Villa player who will soon move to Man C and MAKE us £14 MILLION POUNDS!
He gave/gives 100% when ever he plays but want to move to another club which has offered to double his wages......
And some of you are saying boo him???
Fuckin wasters
I wouldn't boo him, but only for Villa's sake. But is there any need to be insulting to other posters like that?
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Let me get this right....
We have an Aston Villa player who will soon move to Man C and MAKE us £14 MILLION POUNDS!
He gave/gives 100% when ever he plays but want to move to another club which has offered to double his wages......
And some of you are saying boo him???
Fuckin wasters
I can understand people wanting to voice their disapproval although I wouldn't make it easier for him ,plus I think we're getting the best out of this deal.
Doubling his wages to 120k, like anybody needs that much.....
If he had any sense he'd wait to see if a big team came in for him. Then again they won't because he isn't that good.
As for calling people 'Fuckin wasters' ,thats a bit of a wankers trick. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
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Just my opinion. Any Villa fan who is happy to go to the Villa and KNOW they are going to boo a Villa player is a waster as far as I'm concerned. If you guys think differently then thats fine with me, we all have our own opinions.
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Just my opinion. Any Villa fan who is happy to go to the Villa and KNOW they are going to boo a Villa player is a waster as far as I'm concerned. If you guys think differently then thats fine with me, we all have our own opinions.
Right but you don't have to insult people with your opinion. You could just state that you don't think he should be booed, which I agree with for the team's sake.
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Not a great deal of point in booing him. I can't quite see why KevMc is planning on putting him in the squad. Save it for when he comes back and sits on the bench.
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He's always given his all for us when he has pulled on that claret and blue
I am dissapointed that he would want to go and possibly warm the most expensive bench in the world
#but were I at the game today I would cheer him to thank him for some great memories
if that makes me soft
so be it
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Its time to circle the wagons and not start self destructing. Booing one of ours is beyond the pale. If you want to do that why not stay at home.
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Its time to circle the wagons and not start self destructing. Booing one of ours is beyond the pale. If you want to do that why not stay at home.
A far more diplomatic way of saying what I meant ( I get your drift PaulWinch). Thanks lovejoy.
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We'll soon find out... Milly starts!
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I wouldn't boo him a much as I feel let down. It affects the entire team, though I wouldn't stand in anyone's way of showing their displeasure in he returns for Man City. Get behind them today and the points. Let's be honest, we are getting a hell of deal out of his transfer.
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MILNER STARTS
this should be interesting :o
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How many booed when he was taken off after the way he played today. Proper professional to the end on the pitch.
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I heard zero boos when he was taken off, nothing but applause.
Mixed reception pre-game but nothing extreme, probably just the right amount to be honest!
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Milner showed his true character today. Class act. Thinking back over the years to players with one foot out the door for us, and final games, or final seasons, I don't ever remember a barnstorming display from them like Milner delivered today. I don't believe he's the mercenary some may think at all. He certainly lived up to his reputation as being an honest player who'll give absolutely everything when he's on the pitch for whoever.
I will be sad to see him go. I still hope he ends up staying to be honest. Ireland is a cracking player, but Milners got a little something extra we'll undoubtedly miss.
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Today he showed what we will be missing. Amazingly I thought he looked worth the incredible fee today. As i said elsewhere, I felt nothing but sadness seeing him walk off, something I never felt with Barry or Southgate.
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I applauded him off as a 'Thank you for the past 2 years' gesture to be honest.
How good would it be though if we pip City to a Champions League place by one goal, a goal they could have avoided by paying Ireland off last week.
Sad thing is we will miss him. That was him today after only playing 22 minutes of pre-season games. (Yes I know World Cup but that was June/July)
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milner will stay .... trust me ;-)
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A credit to his profession today - gave 110% - unfortunately some of our moronic fans lived upto our fickle reputation and booed him before kick off, I will be very sad to see him go - and no Ireland is not, in my opinion, an adequate replacement. Good luck James - I think you are making a mistake but I wish you well.
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Milner has put his heart and soul playing for the club beyond a lot of other players.If Heskey, Davies and Petrov had showed his application throughout their time with us maybe we would have sneaked fourth.
Petrov was superb once again today.
Anyone who doesn't see that Petrov is one of our most important players really doesn't understand football.
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Petrov was quality today, showed more dimensions to his game aswell. Plus he maintained energy because we kept the ball better.
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Today he showed what we will be missing. Amazingly I thought he looked worth the incredible fee today. As i said elsewhere, I felt nothing but sadness seeing him walk off, something I never felt with Barry or Southgate.
Well said that man.
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Dave, absolutely re Petrov. Masterful display.
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Milner has put his heart and soul playing for the club beyond a lot of other players.If Heskey, Davies and Petrov had showed his application throughout their time with us maybe we would have sneaked fourth.
Petrov was superb once again today. Anyone who doesn't see that Petrov is one of our most important players really doesn't understand football.
Petrov did play well today, because he realises he has to again.
He has under performed in a lazy cynical fashion for most of his time with us, apart from when he he was playing for a new contract ( surprise, surprise).That I understand all too well. You're entitled to your opinion, how easily some are seduced.
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Petrov was quality today, showed more dimensions to his game aswell. Plus he maintained energy because we kept the ball better.
I think that's bang on. I remember last season him really slowing the pace down, often breaking up our attacks. One incident stood out for me today where he quickly released the ball to Young, leading to a fabulous break. I think he's realised that we can't afford a passenger in midfield, and someone needs to step up when/if/but surely when Milner leaves.
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I think the reception James received today might make him think twice about the move - what I fear is his agent will have mentally spent the massive fee he will get from the deal and not let it collapse now.
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played superbly given the circumstances. If we hadn't wasted millions that we now need to claw back, we could have built a team round him. Wish him well.
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Milner is a class act
I would like to thank those who gave him standing ovation
as for those who bood him...well you payed yer money
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Petrov was quality today, showed more dimensions to his game aswell. Plus he maintained energy because we kept the ball better.
Absolutely spot on.
I know it is only one match, but our ball retention today was way, way better than at any point last season.
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I'm glad that the majority (by the sounds of the commentary, didn't get to the game) gave him an ovation. Firstly it shows that villa have a bit of class and respect for soon to be ex-villa players who are prepared to do a job for us, and secondly, i naively believe that when he's on his own this evening, wondering what his move to man citeh might bring, he'll sit there and remember the Villa fans and how they thought highly of him, and wonder if he'll ever get that kind of support again
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From what I saw/heard from the Lower Holte, the whole ground gave him a deserved standing ovation. I heard no boos for him after the teams were read out initially, & even then it was only 50/50. A great display by young James today, the little bugger.
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I was pleased with the reception Milner had today-A few needless boos before KO but it could have been a lot worse.
I think the formation we played today helped Milners and Petrovs games.Although you could say that Young was playing between the midfield & Carew,he was always prepared to drop back & help the midfield (something I'm not sure Ireland would do so willingly)
Sometimes last season,I thought Petrov & Milner were completely overun in midfield & watching the Benfica game the other week,it didn't look like we had a central midfield.The 5 man midfield at Anfield last season was a great success & today showed we can play a similar formation at home without being negative.
I think if you were to play with two strikers then neither Young or Milner would be so effective.
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I thought he shouldn't have played, wouldn't have given 100% for the cause, I was wrong based my opinion on other less professional wasters that had gone before.
Good luck Jimmy wherever you end up.