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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Salsa Party Animal on August 11, 2010, 05:43:34 PM
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This is a poll to find out about our mood :) For fun.
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Two and four are basically the same I'd have thought. I am option 5) waiting to see who the new manager is before deciding whether to be happy or depressed.
At the moment I'm feeling about this good [ ]. About normal, a bit hungry but I don't blame O'Neill for that.
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I'm excited about new things.
Sure, it might not be for the better but I think at least I was getting very bored with how things were and whilst the previous incumbent did nothing wrong enough to lose his job I do think there was a need for change.
I never had that high an expectation for this series beforehand anyway.
That said whoever gets the job will have a big effect upon how that view changes.
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We have no manager, the list of favourites to take over do not fill me with confidence, we're about to lose our player of the season, we haven't addressed our goal scoring problem, we've got to cut the wage bill so the prospect of others leaving is very real, at the club it feels like we have the Tories austerity measures coming but I can't bloody wait for Saturday.
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I chose feeling negative and doomed because of the timing but i think i will stay positive.
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I'm actually quite excited, I was sick of O'neills brand of football and fed up with it, now I feel like were at a bit of a crossroads, go one way Get a good manager in and start to play and bit.
Or go the other way, get a shit manager in Like southgate and i'll be upset then but either way im feeling optamistic at the moment.
im confident we'll get it right one way or another
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Here's the thing, I guess there's a sense of excitement (or is that dread? Not sure). Seriously, were we gonna do any better than 6th this season under Martin? No. In fact we'd have finished 7th at best IMO. Do we really care that much about being the 6th or 7th best team in the country? For me? Not particularly. It gets boring, especially after 3 years of being good, but not good enough.
If a new guy comes in and we finish 10th, so be it. At least we'll have (or I hope) a change of approach, and style. We might see a few more surprise players come our way, a few unheards of's, as opposed to English players who we know all too much about who join.
It'll be intrigueing. I don't think our chances in cups are any less hopeful without O Neill, because it's about luck a lot of the times. It'd be nice to win a trophie, so hopefully we have another good cup run.
But the uncertainty is most definitely exciting. Our new manager could provide enough inspiration and tactical genius to get this group in the top 4. Granted, said manager would need to be a genius to do that, and would then end up at Barca or Real or Inter next summer! On the otherhand we could get a clown who just doesn't suit the club and could have us in a relegation scrap. We'll see. The sadist in me kind of thinks a good old fashioned relegation scrap will provide more thrill and excitement than simply cementing 7th or 8th. At least we'd be playing for something by May. And as for the holy grail of the Europa? What bobbins. I'd love us to win it by all means, but getting to the end of a season and achieving qualification for that mickey mouse load of shite, doesn't really feel like an achievement. At least not till the sort that competition out.
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I'm happy with the opportunity to push things forward, finally get the fresh formations and tactics with every player being given a chance etc.
I'm not 100% happy though, because whoever we can get to boss us right now wont be the right long term choice. I'm seeing this season as one of distraction from all the same criticisms of years past. This is like a going out with a plain Jane and hoping she gets tarted up at the weekend and is a filthy whore in the bedroom rather than one who lies there like a corpse.
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I would like a 'I live in Hope' option.
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I'm more upbeat and positive going into the start of the new season; things do seem a lot better than they did this time exactly 48 hours ago.
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Upbeat and positive. Players like Davies, Reo Coker, Young will have points to prove. Players like Delph (when fit), Delfouneso, Albrighton, Bannan, Lichaj, Clark will feel that this is an opportunity to prove they're good enough.
I was bored rigid watching players uncomfortable with the ball, not moving at throw ins, flicking the ball on into acres of void.
We have a top six squad. If we can get a manager capable of beating, rather than drawing against, the park the bus teams then we should stay positive.
But the words Gareth and Southgate still scare me.
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We have no manager, the list of favourites to take over do not fill me with confidence, we're about to lose our player of the season, we haven't addressed our goal scoring problem, we've got to cut the wage bill so the prospect of others leaving is very real, at the club it feels like we have the Tories austerity measures coming but I can't bloody wait for Saturday.
Take away the last 7 words and that could be a post by Greg Nash.
I can't believe you're losing faith in the owners, so i'll assume i'm having another acid flash back from my over use of it in 1988.
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Very excited. No more mediocrity - it will be shit or bust!!!!
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Here's the thing, I guess there's a sense of excitement (or is that dread? Not sure). Seriously, were we gonna do any better than 6th this season under Martin? No. In fact we'd have finished 7th at best IMO. Do we really care that much about being the 6th or 7th best team in the country? For me? Not particularly. It gets boring, especially after 3 years of being good, but not good enough.
If a new guy comes in and we finish 10th, so be it. At least we'll have (or I hope) a change of approach, and style. We might see a few more surprise players come our way, a few unheards of's, as opposed to English players who we know all too much about who join.
It'll be intrigueing. I don't think our chances in cups are any less hopeful without O Neill, because it's about luck a lot of the times. It'd be nice to win a trophie, so hopefully we have another good cup run.
But the uncertainty is most definitely exciting. Our new manager could provide enough inspiration and tactical genius to get this group in the top 4. Granted, said manager would need to be a genius to do that, and would then end up at Barca or Real or Inter next summer! On the otherhand we could get a clown who just doesn't suit the club and could have us in a relegation scrap. We'll see. The sadist in me kind of thinks a good old fashioned relegation scrap will provide more thrill and excitement than simply cementing 7th or 8th. At least we'd be playing for something by May. And as for the holy grail of the Europa? What bobbins. I'd love us to win it by all means, but getting to the end of a season and achieving qualification for that mickey mouse load of shite, doesn't really feel like an achievement. At least not till the sort that competition out.
Excellent post. I fully agree.
For me a relegation battle would be much better than the same old slog to mediocrity. Not that I think we will have one mind.
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We have no manager, the list of favourites to take over do not fill me with confidence, we're about to lose our player of the season, we haven't addressed our goal scoring problem, we've got to cut the wage bill so the prospect of others leaving is very real, at the club it feels like we have the Tories austerity measures coming but I can't bloody wait for Saturday.
Take away the last 7 words and that could be a post by Greg Nash.
I can't believe you're losing faith in the owners, so i'll assume i'm having another acid flash back from my over use of it in 1988.
To be optimistic when there ar so many unknowns would be blind faith. I'm looking forward to the season, hoping to see a good managerial appointment and perhaps a couple of signings but at the moment it looks like a time for consolidation when I'd been hoping for more. Give it a week or two when there are a few more things in place and it might be different.
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We have no manager, the list of favourites to take over do not fill me with confidence, we're about to lose our player of the season, we haven't addressed our goal scoring problem, we've got to cut the wage bill so the prospect of others leaving is very real, at the club it feels like we have the Tories austerity measures coming but I can't bloody wait for Saturday.
Take away the last 7 words and that could be a post by Greg Nash.
I can't believe you're losing faith in the owners, so i'll assume i'm having another acid flash back from my over use of it in 1988.
To be optimistic when there ar so many unknowns would be blind faith. I'm looking forward to the season, hoping to see a good managerial appointment and perhaps a couple of signings but at the moment it looks like a time for consolidation when I'd been hoping for more. Give it a week or two when there are a few more things in place and it might be different.
I see you mention 'hoping for more' Chris.
Your hope would have been worthless if we'd let Doh'Neill loose on the Milner money.
McGreedy and Keane for £18m?
Yuk!
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I'm so excited and I just can't hide it.
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I'm so excited and I just can't hide it.
Baby I'm so excitable.
I don't care if it get's me into trouble.
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Part of me is looking forward to a new approach to the team,tactics,formations etc,the other part of me is shitting myself till i find out who the new appointment is.
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Good actually, it's a fresh start. Not ideal timing I give you that, but I'm glad now that he's gone.
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It all depends on who his replacement is.
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excited. The last few days have really shown that the club wasn't been managed or run very well by MON- a manager who has always demanded total control. Players unhappy and wanting to leave, escalating costs of wages for small returns and a pig headed manager who was out of his depth. Even those who defended MON will struggle to defend his actions now it's all been blown wide open. He has been backed to the hilt by the board and for the money he spent, he hasn't really delivered. For £100m net , he's hardly left us with a blinding squad. I trust the board to make the right decision because during their time at Villa Park, I can't think of too many decisions they have got wrong. But FFS not Alan Curbishley!!
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Exited
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I could crush a grape ;-)
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I've gone from being shocked and disappointed to being like a small boy on Christmas Eve all in 24 hours.
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Looking forward to the new season,
hoping to get a manager who gives All the players a chance, and hopefully plays, players in their proper positions
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at least it will be different. It would have been oh so predictable if MON had remained. Same 11-13 players played week in, week out. Not bad away on the counter, disappointing at home.
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I'm waiting to see what happens, the list of potential managers does not really excite me, but lets see who we pull out of the bag. When he left I was shocked but now thinking it seems right for hom to go - not sure why I feel like that. Pains me to say it but Andy Gray's comments were spot on, put a lot of it in place for me. I can't go on Sat as on a Stag do, but bloody wish I was. I am a Villa fan.
PS gregnash was mentioned on the last page, has he posted since MON jumped ship???? Nothing to stir up I suppose....
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Excited and apprehensive at the same time.
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Part of me is looking forward to a new approach to the team,tactics,formations etc,the other part of me is shitting myself till i find out who the new appointment is.
That just about sums it up for me too. I don't think they'll make a daft decision personally.
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I can't go on Sat as on a Stag do, but bloody wish I was. I am a Villa fan.
Same here, i'm going to fancy dress party up north! Really wish I could go and I can't make Vienna or Everton either.
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Over the moon Brian. The clown has gone and as long as we don't employ another manager with 'O' in the middle of his name we should be fine long term
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Over the moon Brian. The clown has gone and as long as we don't employ another manager with 'O' in the middle of his name we should be fine long term
you going the match greg and giving the team some support?
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Over the moon Brian. The clown has gone and as long as we don't employ another manager with 'O' in the middle of his name we should be fine long term
So not Jol then?
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heh. not convinced by him really, especially with not much money
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The only thing that dissapoints me is the timing. Hopefully the new manager will be one worthy of the position who picks players on merit, not on who are his favourites and who he hasn't fallen out with . Someone with some tactical nouse would be good.
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I hope that the next manager encourages the lads to play football with the emphasis on skill as opposed to hoofing it.
that is the extent of my much battered optimism
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we haven't addressed our goal scoring problem
He had four seasons to do that and he never did it. I imagine a new manager will make this a priority.
People are saying he's left us in the shit because of his timing. For me, he would have taken us further into the shit if he had stayed.
I am fucking ecstatic!
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Over the moon Brian. The clown has gone and as long as we don't employ another manager with 'O' in the middle of his name we should be fine long term
So not Jol then?
How about Ferguson, Moyes, Mourinho (two O's he's definitely not good enough), Guardiola? I suppose they're out also greg?
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Mixed fealings. I hate the medias pro MON stance, he is stubborn and will not build a team on talent but rather his preference of the personality that suits his. But I think he was a good manager for us. One that moved us to the coat tails of those teams Sky Sports have promoted to the big 4. I guess that ok is what MON was for us. OK at getting some great players, ok at motivating some of them, very good at media work and for quotes, but less than ok at buying players for a squad. For every one excellent signing there was one very good one and two not very good ones but they all seemed to get top dollar. Hit and miss, more hit than miss for leaving the match happy with a good result. I liked him but as a Villa fan I just see it as another chapter, he moved us on and moved on, at a very bad time of preseason. Lets hope the next guy in charge plays defenders in position, signs a foriegn guy I have never heard of and does not say terrific so much. Onwards and upwards. Maybe.
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Happy O Neil has gone. Always said when Lerner took over, right owner wrong manager. Anyway feeling a lot more optimistic.
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Over the moon Brian. The clown has gone and as long as we don't employ another manager with 'O' in the middle of his name we should be fine long term
So not Jol then?
How about Ferguson, Moyes, Mourinho (two O's he's definitely not good enough), Guardiola? I suppose they're out also greg?
I thought it was quite a clever quip by Greg. And none of yours have an 'o' right in the middle. (halo emoticon where are you..?)
As regards the new season, a feeling of the unknown has replaced one of resignation so I'm much more excited (and nervous) than three days ago.
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Three weeks ago, I could not care less about the new season. With the departure of O'Neill, my gloom has totally lifted and I look forward to the season with some excitement. Villa Park will be alive and vibrant on Saturday. We have a popular Manager and there is no reason why everyone should not be totally behind him. I definitely want to be at my seat when the Manager makes his way to the dugout. What a great way to start a season. We are almost underdogs and that is how I like it.
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I was fond of MON (until he left us in the lurch, the petulant twat) although he drove me up the wall on occasions. But its only after he's gone that you realise how stale things were getting. I wont miss the arguments (here there and everywhere) about tactics, subs, last minute transfers...etc.
It all depends how you choose to view things. I see the current situation as a chance to address our shortcomings and move on to somethng new and fresh. Reivigorating. I'm looking forward to the possibilty of more sophsticated play, players in the correct positions and tactical flexibilty. Maybe the odd exciting and unexpected transfer or two.
I like blank canvases, I like change and new possibilities.
So I guess I'm excited to see what happens next and realise it could be better or worse but I trust Randy to make sure its not the latter.
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It could be chaos, but I like chaos. Therefore, I'm looking forward to the season
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On the subject of "O"s I wonder if we will lose Storey-Moore. He is famous in the O world because he was the one nobody could get in the answer to the pub quiz question name three England internationals with three Os in in his name. One was Tony Woodcock but the other escapes me.
Our new manager must have a good network of contacts and I hope whoever comes shakes our scouting system up.
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Peter Osgood
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Far more excited than I was before, tinged with a little trepidation over the choice of the new manager. There are a lot of potential positives about O'Neill going. We still have a good squad, even without Milner, some good players previously ostracized may finally get a look in, and the standard of football entertainment can hardly get worse. Plus hopefully we wont be restricting our transfer targets to British based journeymen and overpaying for them. Onwards and upwards. Of course if we end up with Curbishley or Southgate it will all go very tits up.....
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Not an option available that fits my mood.
I was looking forward to the Villa (if not the general football) season, still liked the fact we had MON in charge, wasn't that bothered I couldn't make the Wet Spam game but was hoping there wasn't a rush on Vienna away tickets and definitely wasn't looking forward to the back-biting and sniping now that there seemed to be a true dividing of the pro and anti-O'Neill camps on here.
I'm still looking forward to the Villa season, disappointed MON left in the way he did and the timing when Uncle Woy might have been an option had we had an amicable parting at the end of last season, I'm now disappointed I can't make the Wet Spam game as I'd like to see how Kevin Mac's team lines up and plays, am still hoping there isn't a rush on Vienna away tickets and am hoping that once the season gets going, the back-biting and sniping dies down, at least a little bit.
So I wouldn't say "couldn't care less nothing's changed" but I guess that's the closest. However. it's still not getting my vote.
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I am gutted that MON has gone, but accept that a parting of ways was inevitable.
My mood is nervous as so much hinges on the new appointment. MOn has given us the best three consecutive top flight finishes of any post WW2 manager, realistically beating that for any new man is a mammoth task when you consider the resources of the clubs we are competing with.
None of the proposed managerial options are risk free, I have reservations about all of them. Fate is cruel, and I would have been less nervous about Hodgson or Hughes than most of the contenders mentioned.
I would like the Club to take a chance, Rijkaard, Hitzfeld from the top echelons, O'Driscoll,Coyle or Simon Grayson from the wannabees.
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I am more excited now to see new things
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I was very uninterested until Monday but am now like a giddy child.
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I am depressed for the simple reason that MON wouldnt have left if he felt we could still compete this year.
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I wasn't un-excited about the prospect of another season with Martin in charge, although that was partly based on expecting a glut of new signings (mainly Keane and Ireland) before 1st September.
Now it's more a case of excitement by curiousity, as we literally have no idea how things are going to go. What players and formation will MacDonald prefer? Who will the new manager ultimately be and what will he change? Will there be new signings?
I suppose it's like going to the movies having no idea of what film you're going to see!
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I wasn't un-excited about the prospect of another season with Martin in charge, although that was partly based on expecting a glut of new signings (mainly Keane and Ireland) before 1st September.
Now it's more a case of excitement by curiousity, as we literally have no idea how things are going to go. What players and formation will MacDonald prefer? Who will the new manager ultimately be and what will he change? Will there be new signings?
I suppose it's like going to the movies having no idea of what film you're going to see!
Its better than going to see a new movie and knowing it will be exactly the same as the last one you saw.