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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Fergal on August 05, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
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I couldn't give a flying shite about England and I'm too young to ever remember footballers being anything other than overhyped and overpaid yet I feel the same.
I think it's the sinking realisation that the Bright Future part of the 2006 take over motto is probably not gonna happen anytime soon. Not under this management anyway.
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Don't worry about it, it happens to all of us.
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I would say it's the lack of anything really happening around Villa Park. That's what has got me, I can't see how currently(I know it's not the end of transfer window yet)we are going to improve on last season.
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I've been feeling the same. It's obvious that we can only expect to be playing for the 'Best of the Rest' places, having no hope of breaking into the top 4 and actually challenging for the League title. So 6th place would probably be considered an achievement for most clubs this coming season and it's hard to get enthusiastic about that.
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It'll all change at 3pm on 14th August.
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It's not just apathy about Villa it's all football.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
You have just got old, as you get older you care less about football and when you look back to the good old days its because your looking back to when you are younger and it always seems better, add to that hope and the optimism of youth and then the gradual evaporation of that hope and you have your answer.
Love Plato.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
You have just got old, as you get older you care less about football and when you look back to the good old days its because your looking back to when you are younger and it always seems better, add to that hope and the optimism of youth and then the gradual evaporation of that hope and you have your answer.
Love Plato.
It was only a couple of years ago that I spent my redundancy payment on season tickets, I must have got old quick....
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You may have reached that saturation point, where you know the old thrills all too well. My advice would be to ignore football almost entirely (except for signings) until the start of the season, and try something new. There's just enough time between now and the season's beginning for it to work.
You might get bored without football, mind.
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It'll all change at 3pm on 14th August.
When I suddenly realise where I'm supposed to be and apathy turns to irritation at having forgotten to turn up.
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i think the portsmouth fiasco sums football up to me. football looks after football sod anyone else as long as the peter storries of the world get their fees and the utakas get their tax reduced wages through image rights they are happy. lets not worry about st johns ambulance or the scouts they can whistle
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Must admit I feel the same. Don't go to many matches these days. I really believed the 'Proud History, Bright Future' hype. Still got the scarf hanging on my wall, but the Bright Future is not so bright and personally at the moment Doug Ellis could still be in control.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
As the years go by fans tend to get more cynical and weary about things. I remember when I was a kid my old man would criticize most things about the then modern game and reminisce about how good it was in years gone by. It happens to us all in the end I suppose.
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I tend to get more and more disillusioned each close season but maybe thats an age thing. I have never been so unenthusiastic as i have been this season.Dont get me wrong i love the Villa but the experience of the World Cup and the dominance of the moneybags teams has put me off a bit.
Only 2 or 3 teams can win the league and generally they also call the tune in the cups. There must be a whole generation of kids who've grown up and only seen 2-3 teams win the title in that time. As a result you see kids all over the country in the shirts of only those teams - the amount of kids popping up in the south wearing Man City shirts is depressing.
The team who gets 4th place celebrate like they've won the league - see Spurs last season. At the end of the day nothing has been won and no one will remember who finished fourth a season or two later. Give me 10th place and a cup anyday over 4th.
The whole Champions League is wrong and the fact that knocked out teams can enter the EUROPA league's later stages is a disgrace.
Referees are inept and biased towards the bigger teams. I know we had our own shortcomings in the two Wembley games but it does help a bit more if you have a fair minded referee. To beat the bigger teams you need everyone to play at 100% and then hope the referee will give you a fair percentage of the decisions.
The price of the game and the money involved in football. I can only make around 7-8 home games a season so i fully admire those who can turn up week after week. You have to think though that football will implode at some point. How some players can be rated at the values they are is unbelievable and wages are crazy even for the likes of the benchwarmers.
As for the Villa i think we're just making up numbers at the minute. We'll be solid away, mediocre at home and finish between 7-9th with hopefully a couple of derby wins to cheer. I still dont think MON will finish the season as our boss.
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Its not just us Villa fans, alot of other fans are feeling abit.........well fooked off with the game
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WE NEED SOME TYPE OF SALARY CAP!
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Another thing that adds to the frustration of some fans is the need to get Villa news all through the summer. Years ago we'd all practically forget about football during the summer months and go and do something else. That was before the Internet/Sky Sports 24hr football news era when we now demand football 365 days a year. If we don't get our feed of Villa during the summer close season we thing there's something terribly wrong with the club. There isn't of course, but try telling that to people on here.
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Another thing that adds to the frustration of some fans is the need to get Villa news all through the summer. Years ago we'd all practically forget about football during the summer months and go and do something else. That was before the Internet/Sky Sports 24hr football news era when we now demand football 365 days a year. If we don't get our feed of Villa during the summer close season we thing there's something terribly wrong with the club. There isn't of course, but try telling that to people on here.
Or maybe they just think there is something wrong? It's a bit patronising to assume they're just missing their Villa fix, surely?
Personally, I thnk this summer has been the easiest to handle for a while.
For a start, there's been a World Cup, which has both provided a four week supply of football, and also ensured that pretty much nobody was going to do any transfer business until towards the end of July.
Then there's the fact that there seems to be less money in the game in general, which has paralysed the entire transfer market.
I would actually say that there is less moaning about lack of signings this season than there was last season or the season before.
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Another thing that adds to the frustration of some fans is the need to get Villa news all through the summer. Years ago we'd all practically forget about football during the summer months and go and do something else. That was before the Internet/Sky Sports 24hr football news era when we now demand football 365 days a year. If we don't get our feed of Villa during the summer close season we thing there's something terribly wrong with the club. There isn't of course, but try telling that to people on here.
Or maybe they just think there is something wrong? It's a bit patronising to assume they're just missing their Villa fix, surely?
Personally, I thnk this summer has been the easiest to handle for a while.
For a start, there's been a World Cup, which has both provided a four week supply of football, and also ensured that pretty much nobody was going to do any transfer business until towards the end of July.
Then there's the fact that there seems to be less money in the game in general, which has paralysed the entire transfer market.
I would actually say that there is less moaning about lack of signings this season than there was last season or the season before.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the club. O'Neill leaves signings to the last minute, and has done since he arrived here, yet still some fans think there's something wrong at the club. Can't they just accept this is the way he works? What's so patronising about that?
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Another thing that adds to the frustration of some fans is the need to get Villa news all through the summer. Years ago we'd all practically forget about football during the summer months and go and do something else. That was before the Internet/Sky Sports 24hr football news era when we now demand football 365 days a year. If we don't get our feed of Villa during the summer close season we thing there's something terribly wrong with the club. There isn't of course, but try telling that to people on here.
Or maybe they just think there is something wrong? It's a bit patronising to assume they're just missing their Villa fix, surely?
Personally, I thnk this summer has been the easiest to handle for a while.
For a start, there's been a World Cup, which has both provided a four week supply of football, and also ensured that pretty much nobody was going to do any transfer business until towards the end of July.
Then there's the fact that there seems to be less money in the game in general, which has paralysed the entire transfer market.
I would actually say that there is less moaning about lack of signings this season than there was last season or the season before.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the club. O'Neill leaves signings to the last minute, and has done since he arrived here, yet still some fans think there's something wrong at the club. Can't they just accept this is the way he works? What's so patronising about that?
You don't, they do.
It is patronising because their opinion differs to yours, and you're putting it down purely to people being bored in the summer. Oh, and "try telling that to people on here" as a parting line is about as patronising as it gets.
Maybe you should just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they really mean what they're saying?
If you can't see how that is patronising, then there's not really much hope.
Oh, and you didn't say anything about people being fed up with O'Neill's lateness in signings originally, you said it was because they weren't getting their Villa fix.
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Another thing that adds to the frustration of some fans is the need to get Villa news all through the summer. Years ago we'd all practically forget about football during the summer months and go and do something else. That was before the Internet/Sky Sports 24hr football news era when we now demand football 365 days a year. If we don't get our feed of Villa during the summer close season we thing there's something terribly wrong with the club. There isn't of course, but try telling that to people on here.
Or maybe they just think there is something wrong? It's a bit patronising to assume they're just missing their Villa fix, surely?
Personally, I thnk this summer has been the easiest to handle for a while.
For a start, there's been a World Cup, which has both provided a four week supply of football, and also ensured that pretty much nobody was going to do any transfer business until towards the end of July.
Then there's the fact that there seems to be less money in the game in general, which has paralysed the entire transfer market.
I would actually say that there is less moaning about lack of signings this season than there was last season or the season before.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the club. O'Neill leaves signings to the last minute, and has done since he arrived here, yet still some fans think there's something wrong at the club. Can't they just accept this is the way he works? What's so patronising about that?
You don't, they do.
It is patronising because their opinion differs to yours, and you're putting it down purely to people being bored in the summer.
Maybe you should just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they really mean what they're saying?
If you can't see how that is patronising, then there's not really much hope.
It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Just watched Ashley Youngs winner against Everton at Goodison. So my excitement is back !!! (so easily pleased) ...
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
Bolshy, patronising, no one can disagree with me etc etc - you could be describing yourself there paulie - you're up there with the best of them when it comes to those qualities. Honestly, I don't know how you've got the nerve to say those things when you're as pompous and sarcastic as you clearly are.
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time out!
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I'm still quietly optimistic.
That might change; if Ireland, Keane and some of our other targets move elsewhere and we end up signing Gary O'Neill or Ricardo Fuller. But lets see.
I think MON knows this is a crucial year, not just as far as his Villa career is concerned but for his legacy in the game in general.
The ideal scenario in that regard is that we have a good year, say finish fifth and draw some top class sides in Europe for the UEFA+ have a good run. Neither of those scenarios are out of the question. Better than that would be exceptional.
If MON does have a 'mare though, be it a particularly poor run for a prolonged period or a below average season he'll be on his way. And that in itself will bring a form of excitement, a new era/ new approach et.c
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
Bolshy, patronising, no one can disagree with me etc etc - you could be describing yourself there paulie - you're up there with the best of them when it comes to those qualities. Honestly, I don't know how you've got the nerve to say those things when you're as pompous and sarcastic as you clearly are.
Well, there you go. I did say them.
If you've got any more moans regarding my character, I suggest you PM me them.
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I was heard to mutter the words 'oh bloody hell, the fucking football season starts again next week' at the weekend. My other half used to be the one who said that.
At least i'm looking forward to watching Killinghall Nomads Under 8's* this season.
*My son plays for them, i'm not somebody with an unhealthy interest in young boys.
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It's all too predictable, we need Villa, Everton or Fulham to win the league, Liverpool, Arsenal or Man U to be relegated, or Blackpool, Wolves or Stoke to make the Champions League to make the whole thing interesting/unpredictable again. Just like when Forest were winning things, Ipswich were a top team and Man U got relegated in the early seventies, oh happy days !!!!
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
Bolshy, patronising, no one can disagree with me etc etc - you could be describing yourself there paulie - you're up there with the best of them when it comes to those qualities. Honestly, I don't know how you've got the nerve to say those things when you're as pompous and sarcastic as you clearly are.
Well, there you go. I did say them.
If you've got any more moans regarding my character, I suggest you PM me them.
Same applies to you as well. If you've got a problem with me use the PM option.
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
Bolshy, patronising, no one can disagree with me etc etc - you could be describing yourself there paulie - you're up there with the best of them when it comes to those qualities. Honestly, I don't know how you've got the nerve to say those things when you're as pompous and sarcastic as you clearly are.
Well, there you go. I did say them.
If you've got any more moans regarding my character, I suggest you PM me them.
Same applies to you as well. If you've got a problem with me use the PM option.
I don't have a problem with your character, I said your post was patronising. And you've just gone and done it on another thread, too.
I suggest you let it go at this point, as it's getting boring.
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Its the least excited about a new season that I have ever been.
Various reasons, in no particular order and not a comprehensive list:
1) - young players not getting a chance in English football. This was recognised by one national newspaper on the morning of last season's Youth Cup Final, where it said that, for most of those playing, they would never play in such a big game again.
2) - following from (1) the national team are so poor and such a bunch of twats. The FA and Premier League, despite the excuses from the latter, are all to blame.
3) - the game is too expensive. The fan should not have to pay £40 a ticket to watch a load of prats in such disgusting conditions (particularly the away match seating allocation).
4) - SKY TV and others have milked it. Hopefully their gravy train will soon dry up.
5) - the bad management of O'Neill and his total disregard for our supporters, except those who, blindly, pander to him.
6) - the fact that we could be doing something far more enjoyable and the season has disturbed our summer.
However, on our way to Portugal, we met some familiar faces and realised why we actually continue to go. It is for the friendly conversations, the whingeing and moaning, the jokes, the piss taking and the drinking. Football takes a back seat in our days out at the match these days.
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It's all too predictable, we need Villa, Everton or Fulham to win the league, Liverpool, Arsenal or Man U to be relegated, or Blackpool, Wolves or Stoke to make the Champions League to make the whole thing interesting/unpredictable again. Just like when Forest were winning things, Ipswich were a top team and Man U got relegated in the early seventies, oh happy days !!!!
I'll settle for Manure going bankrupt and Garry Cook moving Man Citeh to Asia lock, stock and barrel to flog shirts there.
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3-0 win against West Ham and it's here we go, here we go, here we go.
Cheer up you lot.
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1) - young players not getting a chance in English football. This was recognised by one national newspaper on the morning of last season's Youth Cup Final, where it said that, for most of those playing, they would never play in such a big game again.
I reckon this is the thing which will really damage the English game long term.
Look at James Milner. Said to be the future of the English game, yet desperate for a move to a club where, almost certainly, he will not be a week in, week out starter.
The player who is almost certainly going to be England's number one goalkeeper for the foreseeable can't get a game at his current club.
Theo Walcott, hailed as a rising star in the previous U21 tournament, the same one at which Ozil starred, can't get a regular game and has seemingly not moved on at all since then.
There are a lot of really good foreign players in the PL, but there are also a lot of really mediocre ones, and those mediocre ones are the ones that are making it harder for promising English players to break through.
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I htink maybe that it's a case of Liverpool, having dropped out of the Top 4, opening up that position for any number of clubs. But then Man City take their obscene spending up a notch, (target us again, fuck about like they're a lion toying with a mouse), effectively closing that Top4 shop for at least another season.
Another season where football continues to (as has be so well put several times) eat itself.
On one hand, we want a top 4 position for oursleves, allowing the Villa to attract a better style of footballer. But all that's doing is allowing US to stick two fingers up to the rest of football and carry on like Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool have been doing.
Is that something we want. Well....yes. But really, no.
I think the Big-Bang that football will inevitably go through will bring back that excitement. I have grave doubts that it's going to happen any time soon (this new system is just a band-aid - but hopefully a rather large, all curing one). When football gets back to being a game where the Norwich City's of this world can be up in the Top 3, I'll be well excited again.
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Season starts Saturday for me.
Shenstone Pathfinder v Hanwood United
I'm almost creaming myself.
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It's an opinion that I'm entitled to, and I thinks it's a valid opinion as well. I must also point out that you can be as patronising as the best of us on here, so you're hardly one to point the finger I must say.
It's an opinion, yes, a patronising one.
Given your bolshy, nobody can disagree with me, patronising attitude across several threads tonight, I'll take that as a compliment.
Bolshy, patronising, no one can disagree with me etc etc - you could be describing yourself there paulie - you're up there with the best of them when it comes to those qualities. Honestly, I don't know how you've got the nerve to say those things when you're as pompous and sarcastic as you clearly are.
Well, there you go. I did say them.
If you've got any more moans regarding my character, I suggest you PM me them.
Same applies to you as well. If you've got a problem with me use the PM option.
I don't have a problem with your character, I said your post was patronising. And you've just gone and done it on another thread, too.
I suggest you let it go at this point, as it's getting boring.
I come on here hoping to get some inspiration and debate what do I start? A fecking argument.....
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The only thing stopping me from foresaking League football entirely and becoming a weekend vintage stream excursion anorak is the cost. It's like 80 quid per ticket on some of those trips. Makes VP look affordable at 25-35 quid.
Going to see SCTFC is a steal - new league opponents as well this year. Is Shephshed Dynamo's ground really on Butthole Lane?
Shepshed Dynamo FC (http://evostikleague.pitchero.com/club-info.php?id=1632&team_id=23588&Submit=Select)
Have the Butthole Surfers ever done a show there?
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Why Im in the doldrums about the new season:
1) Hate the new kit, after all the hype a MASSIVE disappointment, some might like it, I hate it.
2) Match day prices up and now for a ordinary match against Wet Spam (albeit cat b match and 1st home game of the season) its gone too expensive.
3) Continuation to play a Centre Half at RB AGAIN.
4) Heskey still at the club.
5) Milner going.
6) Davies (£8m), Sidwell (£5m), NRC (£7.5m), Young (£5m), (Beye £2m) on the transfer list and we are 'waiting' till the end of the window to sign players - do the maths boys - we cant sign anyone because these numpties are still here.
7) Unhappy about Luke Young out of favour, like the player and hasnt done a lot wrong for me.
8) At this stage last season we won the Peace Cup with our Kids and that gave me great optimism, none this year.
9) Liverpool out of the Sky four and replaced by Moneybags Citeh. Which means its fantasy football for Chelski, ManUre, Arse and Citeh while we have to scrap Everton, Spuds and Liverpool for 5th, 6th and 7th. Which means thats as high as we are EVER going to get.
10) I think MON is the right manager for our club and I dont think that another manager will make the slightest bit of difference to our place among the elite and thats the most depressing thing.
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I fucking love it, me. Can't wait. I'm even looking forward to The Championship starting, and Soccer AM.
"HEROES AND VILLAINS, BRAND NEW ISSUE, ONLY THIRTY BOB!!!"
It is still thirty bob isn't it Dave?
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WE NEED SOME TYPE OF SALARY CAP!
That would be nice but where do we start when mediocre players are getting £35k £40k a week how about £10k a week then bonus for actually playing in the first team then another bonus for winning a match etc. Mind you I bet the Blackpool owner never thought they would get promoted when he offerred all the players £400k each for getting promoted, he should have taken out some insurance.
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Could it be because when your glass is half empty, you knock it over and spill the rest?
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I got fed up with football in general ages ago, the money, the big 4 club, inept/corrupt officals, inept/corrupt administrators, Sky etc. It was only Villa that has kept my interest up and that had all but petered out in the last 5 years of Doug’s reign. Then there was massive optimism of the dual arrival of Randy and MON. Unfortunately I’ve realized that MON isn’t good enough t to establish us as one of the very best and will never serve up enticing football either. Even if we get to the promised land it will be hollow as the fundamental flaws underlying the game will still be there. Like Troy said, I won’t be happy until Norwich City and their ilk are able to challenge. The money men have stolen the game from us and are in the process of raping it to death. We need more than a wage cap, we need a revolution to take our game back.
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This will probably get taken to pieces, but these are my reasons to be cheerful:-
1. We still have excellent players like Young, Gabby and Carew who can win us games.
2. Last year's excellent defence is still in place, so we will be competitive.
3. Aston Villa will be playing football - it still always gets me excited going to watch us.
4. I'm very hopeful of the development of our youth players, particularly Albrighton.
5. I DO think there will be new signings before 01/09/10.
For all the doom and gloom around here, it will be lifted if we beat West Ham!!
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Hopefully when the season kicks off there will be one or two unpredictable results. And Villa will play well. If we get away with a couple of wins under our belt then things will all change.
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This season, I am mostly not looking forward to:
1 - Not being able to finish higher than the last few seasons season due to other teams financial backing
2 - The constant moaning of Villa fans who want MON out as they believe another manager will do better (though how having someone like Hodgson/Hughes etc. would all of a sudden mean we'd finish top 4 and win cups is beyond me)
3 - James Milner going to Man City. What's the point if a team can just buy whoever they want, whenever they want when all others can't. I think it's cheating.
4 - The moans and groans after 10 minutes of the West Ham game because we're not winning by 4 goals
5 - Heskey
6 - The abuse Heskey will get when he comes on for Carew after 70 minutes (ok, he's shit, but if he's on the pitch, support him)
I'm sure there's more if I thought about it a bit more...
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In this league you have to spend well to stand still, we haven't spent at all, Im not saying we wont but i get the feeling if we do it will be someone really uninspiring.
Im tempted to go next week against West ham but Im thinking hmm £38 and last year after Wigan I was suicidal. I want something to help me get my inspiration back
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Personally i've written off this season so i'm finding it hard to rise above apathy really.. I can't see us doing any better than last and i'm not exactly sure i want a manager who probably won't be here next summer spending the Milner money on his players who the new guy may not fancy. Four years in, i'm not convnced we're any nearer to having a team to crack the top 4 and the subtle concentration on the cups last season convinces me the manager shares that view. If he makes it to next summer, if will be one of the longest reigns of a Villa manager and i'm not convnced we've benifited from it or that it hasn't been largely a waste of time and money.
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I think we will be ok positive thinking can't wait for the season to start.
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I have just realised I will completely miss the Spam opener as I will be driving through Germany. I can not say I was bothered at all.
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Bought our Wet Spam tickets this morning.
Holte End Lower L7 Row G
Call me crazy.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
You have just got old, as you get older you care less about football and when you look back to the good old days its because your looking back to when you are younger and it always seems better, add to that hope and the optimism of youth and then the gradual evaporation of that hope and you have your answer.
Love Plato.
It was only a couple of years ago that I spent my redundancy payment on season tickets, I must have got old quick....
By old I mean metaphorically it happens to most at some point your values change happened to me about 6 years ago.
I'm at the point now where I get bored no matter what game I'm watching.
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I have never felt so totally and utterly apathetic ahead of a new season. The Sun has an advert on the TV now that is something like 'Look at it like a kid again' I think that is the reason. I am not a kid any more.
However, I think and hope all will be better come the start of the football.
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I'm not feeling any excitement either towards our new season probably because we haven't signed anyone, the whole Milner drama hasn't been sorted out and I feel next season is just going to provide more of the same which is not good enough where I see us maybe slipping behind our so called rivals if we don't sign the players we need to and have a better game plan and stratergies.
Anything better than a 6th place finish will be really good I think as I'm not too sure what the new season will bring.
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It's not just apathy about Villa it's all football.
Must admit I'm feeling pretty much the same way, Ferg.
For me I think it's a combination of things: a crap/mediocre/disappointing World Cup; a general feeling of disillusionment with football in general; and the fact that I seem to have been totally preocuppied since December of last year with trying to keep my business afloat.
That said, I have had a horrible gut feeling for the last month that this coming season is likely to end in tears for us Villa fans.
Please let me be wrong.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
That's another thing I did not even get exited during the world cup I watched the games and got annoyed, the fact England had nothing absolutely nothing to offer played a major part.
My 7 year old son on the other hand loved every second of every game he watched, even the Greece v Argentinian game :-)
He did not even care who won just liked the games, he picked Brazil and Spain as his favorites from the start having read the stats in his sticker book and because he thinks Torres and Fabregas are amazing.
That was the only thing that kept my interest in the tournament.
God I wish I was 7.
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Just got back from the game did not fell like going before but now i want the season to start tomorrow
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It's still the cricket season. I have always hated football in August, it feels like curtailing the summer. Maybe I will get more enthusiastic about it as the nights draw in.
With Worcester City selfishly moving to Conference North I honestly think the number of games I will watch live this season will be a new low.
And if it wasn't for the Ashes I'd get rid of Sky and the Andy Gray hype.Not sure how he is going to sell Stevie G et al this year.
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Is it the world cup farce ?
Is it the thought of over hyped over paid footballers taking the piss?
I just cant work up any enthusiasm for next season, I am usually getting excited and studying the fixture list and and and.......
Has the modern money driven, Sky driven, Andy Gray growling punditry promising 'mouth watering' football finally done me?
Fergal you are spot on, I feel exactly the same. I haven't renewed for the first time in five or six years. I blame it partly on the World Cup, partly on Milner going, and partly as a result of the discovery that my season ticket funds precisely 0.5% of a week of Heskey's wages.
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Fergal you are spot on, I feel exactly the same. I haven't renewed for the first time in five or six years. I blame it partly on the World Cup, partly on Milner going, and partly as a result of the discovery that my season ticket funds precisely 0.5% of a week of Heskey's wages.
I feel similar to Fergal and have done for years now. Also in common with VillaVA I did consider returning my season ticket after our over-hyped national team's abysmal failure in South Africa. Then it dawned on me I'd be missing out on the social side of things if I did cancel.
I'm not even excited about the West Ham game this weekend. Just the fact that me and friends are making a day of it as its possibly our only 3pm Saturday home game between now and late January.
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Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
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Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
Welcome to my world ! I reside within the lower North and more recently we have gotten similar. Fortunately most around me and VCTM jnr are a decent mix, apart from our dear friend with the whistle. I put my intolerance down to being a grumpy old git however !!
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Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
I moved from the back of the Holte to the front row for that very reason, I got fed up of not being able to not watch the match for some prick in front falling all over the place or starting stand up if you love the villa the minute the stewards had got everyone to sit down
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Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
Plus at least 10 minutes of various Tracey Andrews songs. 7 or 8 anti - Milner songs. I am officially old, as I spent most of the game thinking what a bunch of twats before realising that at 29 I was probably the oldest person in 1000 seats by at least 10 years.
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Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
Our fans are getting on my nerves.
The 'stand up if you hate the blues' song really got on my wick on Friday. And we now have 'sit down if you love the blues'. For the first time in my life I didn't want to be at the game and wanted to be somewhere else. Bloody oiky chavs! I think I'm too old for Holte End Upper and its time to get my blanket and move to the Trinity. If anyone taps me on the shoulder and questions my support cos I'm not standing up or sitting down I will have to kill them.
Forgot to say my 8 year old thought it was great........and anything that gets the Villa bug further ingrained is ok I suppose.