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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: tony scott on August 04, 2010, 06:21:38 PM
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I remember being really impressed with Jimmy Greaves playing for spurs in the early 1960s
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Steven Gerrard a few seasons ago.
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Also Thierry Henry a while back.
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Edson Arantes di nascimento was pretty awsome
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Lots come to mind
Mostovoi for Celta Vigo back in 1998, he ran the show.
David White for Man City in 1991 scoring all five in a 5-1 win
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Ruud Gullit wasn't too bad.
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I remember seeing Dennis Tueart scoring a hat trick for Man City in a 5-1 thrashing at Villa Park. We actually played alright but he was just unplayable that day. Can't remember the decade-let alone the year-no memory cells left, probably late 70's.
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Michel Platini for Juve in the European Cup 1983. He ran the show. Pity he's such a knob now.
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Cruyff!! playing for Barcelona in about 1977
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Ruud Gullit wasn't too bad.
First time he played for Chelsea against us was the only time I've seen a player with so much presence it seemed ours were afraid to go near him, whether he had the ball or not. I'd forgotten that until you reminded me.
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Cruyff!! playing for Barcelona in about 1977
Absolutely, best performance anywhere by a player that I have seen 'in the flesh'. He scored 2 goals to put Barca 2-0 up, was substituted & received the only standing ovation for an opposing player that I have witnessed and Alan Evans came on as a late substitute to inspire us to an undeserved 2-2 draw. In the return leg, we were 1-0 up, John Gidman got sent off when we were 1-0 up and we ended up losing 2-1 on the night. By the way, I think that you'll find it was 1978.
As I have mentioned in previous posts about greatest games / goals seen at VP, Cruyf's 2nd goal was probably the best goal I ever saw - Better then Maradonna's dribble through the England midfield and defenec in Mexico 1986.
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Beelzebub for QPR.
I think we've done this thread before... or am I getting deja-vu?
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Robert Pires for Arsenal. 01/02.
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Cruyff for me, but he still wasn't as good as Brian Little.
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Another vote for Cruyff - the best player I have seen in the flesh anywhere by a considerable distance.
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Another vote for Cruyff - the best player I have seen in the flesh anywhere by a considerable distance.
Absolutely. The Villa players were mezmerised by him. He was brilliant.
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Pele in the friendly during the dark ages of 3 day week and power cuts, HDE got generators for the lights, I think Gidman got his shirt.
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If its the best player to appear at VP, it has to be Pele. To me he is simply the most complete the most accomplished player on the planet.
But while that night against Santos was unforgetable and he showed his skills and trickery. The best performance on the VP pitch has to be Cruyff, he was playing at a level so far above anybody else in that game.
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Not an obvious one, but the one that always sticks in my mind is Paul Merson for Arsenal around the 95/96 season. Villa 2-0 up, and Merson just took the game by the scruff of the neck, and inspired the Arse to get an draw, with them equalising in stoppage time.
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Cruyff and Platini. Bettega was also teriffic in that Juventus game.
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Cruyff!! playing for Barcelona in about 1977
Absolutely, best performance anywhere by a player that I have seen 'in the flesh'. He scored 2 goals to put Barca 2-0 up, was substituted & received the only standing ovation for an opposing player that I have witnessed and Alan Evans came on as a late substitute to inspire us to an undeserved 2-2 draw. In the return leg, we were 1-0 up, John Gidman got sent off when we were 1-0 up and we ended up losing 2-1 on the night. By the way, I think that you'll find it was 1978.
As I have mentioned in previous posts about greatest games / goals seen at VP, Cruyf's 2nd goal was probably the best goal I ever saw - Better then Maradonna's dribble through the England midfield and defenec in Mexico 1986.
Another vote for this. I always remember that dennis Mortimer seemed to try the Cruyff outside of the foot finish in the games after the 2-2 one. Never manager it.
Also, I'd say Mark Falco. Only because the shit always scored against us. Always.
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Yep, another vote for Cruyff in '78 from me.
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I also remeber the Barcelona fans from that 77-78 game. Amazing noise for a 7 year old to bare witness of.
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Platini and Boniek for Juventus
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Bergkamp was great in the game we came back to win 3-2,it was the first time I saw him in flesh.
We should start a new thread about big names playes who had a shocker,I remember when Athletico Madrid played us,and Vieri was probably the best striker in Europe,but he was shocking,missed a terrible sitter as well.
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Did Maradonna play in the Super cup game?
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No, he signed for Barca after the '82 World Cup, but didn't feature in either leg, including as a sub. Only played 36 times for them in two seasons.
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Platini and Boniek for Juventus
Seconded.
They had to be special mind, to boss the midfield of the reigning European Champions.
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And how many World Cup winners did they have in that team?.......6/7?
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I was always wowed by Ronaldo, also Henry and Bergkamp (dunno how its spelt!) were always brilliant.
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Ruud Gullit wasn't too bad.
First time he played for Chelsea against us was the only time I've seen a player with so much presence it seemed ours were afraid to go near him, whether he had the ball or not. I'd forgotten that until you reminded me.
Yea remember that game he never lost the ball once and moved it around well. That was the year we come 4th and won the League cup with Sir Brian. Unfortunatley, Gullits presence that day helped Chelsea to record a rare home defeat for us with that horrid Dennis Wise scoring the winner.
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Ronaldo a few years ago, Man U won 3-0 - possibly boxing day. He looked like he was about 20% faster with the ball than anyone on the pitch, even when they didn't have it.
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Gonna take a punt at a team
GK - Neil Sullivan (Carbone's debut)
RB - Salgado (Celta)
LB - Sol Campbell (in his very young Spuds days)
CB - Woodgate (for Newcastle)
CB - Ugo's debut (surely he was playing for Norwich??)
MF - Gullit (as said by others)
MF - Mostovoi (Celta)
MF - Gerrard (the day he was applauded off)
MF - Beckham (the 2nd half of the 'cant win with kids' game he was sublime)
FW - Bergkamp (sensational movement)
FW - Benni Mc (Celta)
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Ruud Gullit wasn't too bad.
First time he played for Chelsea against us was the only time I've seen a player with so much presence it seemed ours were afraid to go near him, whether he had the ball or not. I'd forgotten that until you reminded me.
Yea remember that game he never lost the ball once and moved it around well. That was the year we come 4th and won the League cup with Sir Brian. Unfortunatley, Gullits presence that day helped Chelsea to record a rare home defeat for us with that horrid Dennis Wise scoring the winner.
One of the things I remembered from that game was how frustrated Guillit became with his team mates when they did not move into the spaces he thought they should, he resorted to pointing exactly where he wanted everyone to go to receive teh ball from him with Frank Sinclair getting a particular verbal shoeing.
Fantastic player, as was Zola.
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And we couldn't stop him even though we could see what he was doing. I've seen better and more skilful performances but I've never seen one player dominate a pitch so much.
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If i remember rightly Bosnich pulled off arguably his greatest save ever (non-penalty anyway) when he kept out a Gavin Peacock header. This was the game when we gave Wise stick for being a little shit and he responded by patting his head after he'd scored.
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That Juventus team in '83 had Zoff, Gentile, Cabrini, Scirea, Tardelli and Rossi from the Italian world cup winning side plus Platini and Boniek. Platini for me was the best player on a pitch full of world champions and european champions.
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And Roberto Bettaga I think
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I don't think he played in the '82 world cup but your right, he was an experienced Italian international. Great side, but they didn't perform in the final against Hamburg.
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If memory serves a fella named Mcgrath scored the winner it that one.
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Felix Magath
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that 83 juve side probably best i seen ,remember di canio and carbone looking good for sheff wed early 90, robbie fowler always looked decent too
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Johan Cruyff without doubt......bloke was and still is an absolute genius
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Another shout for Gullit. I was also starstruck seeing Henry, Zola, Cantona and Bergkamp.
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Another vote for Cruyff from me. Also Tony Woodcock the day he scored 5 for Arsenal the year they won 6-2 was very special (1983?).
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I was at the Barca game in 78 and Cruyff was indeed outstanding. Juve too in 1983 were an amazing team. I'd still say Thierry Henry was the best player I've seen at Villa Park though, followed by Ryan Giggs.
The best European team I saw at Villa Park wasn't Barca or Juve though. It was Moscow Spartak in around 1983. They passed us off the park and deservedly scored in the last minute to take the tie.
The best English side I've seen at VP was Arsenal about six years ago. They were 3-0 up at half time and it was the closest I've been to leaving the ground with half the game still to play. We were completely outclassed and humiliated in that 45 minutes. It was like dying from a thousand cuts.
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I saw him on TV in 1982-1983 EC game: Michel Platini.
I hate Juventus, that beat us home and away but Platini was a true legend.
http://wn.com/aston_villa_juventus_1_2_1982_83
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Not an obvious one, but the one that always sticks in my mind is Paul Merson for Arsenal around the 95/96 season. Villa 2-0 up, and Merson just took the game by the scruff of the neck, and inspired the Arse to get an draw, with them equalising in stoppage time.
I've a vague recollection of this, did Ian Wright score the equaliser ridiculously late on?
I think this was near the start of my Villa going.
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Beelzebub for QPR.
I think we've done this thread before... or am I getting deja-vu?
That's the one that sticks in my mind/craw, also I think Laurie Cunningham for Sheffield Wednesday.
Or was it Mark Chamberlain? I remember a young black lad coming on as sub & running rings arounds us.
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Le Tissier always seemed to enjoy playing at Villa Park, and a few years after him I remember watching Beckham taking free kicks in the warm up that could defy physics!
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George Best or maybe Rodney Marsh
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Another vote for Gullit, he looked like a dad playing with kids...in exactly the same way McGrath used to. It was a brilliant dominating performance.
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Cruyff for me to simply brilliant and have to agree with big dick Edwards again Moscow Spartak passed us off the park best team definetely
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This is post 5000.Because of my age I have seen many great players at Villa Park but nobody not even Pele and Cruyff come close to Jimmy Greaves.The greatest footballer I have ever seen.
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George Best or maybe Rodney Marsh
Even an older overweight George Best showed some flashes of skill at Villa Park. And that was in a Villa shirt in a friendly against the Albion for the Bradford fire disaster fund in 1985.
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Cruyff or Platini, two of the best performances I have seen, but they both had pretty decent teams to help them.
Begrudgingly always thought Souness played well against us even though I hated him.
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Pretty sure I've said it before in this thread but David White scored all five one dreadful night in 1991. He looked like Pele that night.
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Pretty sure I've said it before in this thread but David White scored all five one dreadful night in 1991. He looked like Pele that night.
He scored 4 and set the fifth up.
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I was at the Barca game in 78 and Cruyff was indeed outstanding. Juve too in 1983 were an amazing team. I'd still say Thierry Henry was the best player I've seen at Villa Park though, followed by Ryan Giggs.
The best European team I saw at Villa Park wasn't Barca or Juve though. It was Moscow Spartak in around 1983. They passed us off the park and deservedly scored in the last minute to take the tie.
The best English side I've seen at VP was Arsenal about six years ago. They were 3-0 up at half time and it was the closest I've been to leaving the ground with half the game still to play. We were completely outclassed and humiliated in that 45 minutes. It was like dying from a thousand cuts.
I remember this tie well, George Gavin was ranting on brmb about a couple of things in the away leg (a 2-2 draw), first of all "the best goal I have ever seen" (his words and I've still got the cassette somewhere) and a dubious last minute penalty for them to make it 2-2.
Still we thought a 2-2 away draw was a decent result. If I remember correctly, we went 1-0 up early in the home leg and we thought that would be it, however, as has been mentioned by a couple of people, once they made it 3-3 on aggregate we were up against it and they deservedly got that last minute winner.
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Pretty sure I've said it before in this thread but David White scored all five one dreadful night in 1991. He looked like Pele that night.
He scored 4 and set the fifth up.
I always thought he got all 5. Funny how memory plays tricks on you.
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Cruyff at Villa Park 78 was something. He got subbed and had a standing ovation. Quite a night and quite a performance from the Dutchman.
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Cruyff at Villa Park 78 was something. He got subbed and had a standing ovation. Quite a night and quite a performance from the Dutchman.
Who was that fella that got two against us when we played Leicester at their place in 76? He was the best player I ever saw at Villa Park.
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Cruyff at Villa Park 78 was something. He got subbed and had a standing ovation. Quite a night and quite a performance from the Dutchman.
Who was that fella that got two against us when we played Leicester at their place in 76? He was the best player I ever saw at Villa Park.
Some fella him - a leader of men, I loved him even before OT. Wished he had stayed a season or two longer.
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One performance that sticks in my mind, is that of John Lukic for Leeds, in what I presume was his debut season, we lost a 2-0 lead, and he saved a penalty, with some sort of fucking around between Evans and I seem to remember one of the Grays. I was about 8 tho, and I think there was a dead leeds fan shoved up against the old tram depot wall
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Another vote for Cruyff from me. Also Tony Woodcock the day he scored 5 for Arsenal the year they won 6-2 was very special (1983?).
I was there that day, we were abysmal. Funnily enough, as some have mentioned spartak moscow, that game was the weds after this arsenal game, then the following saturday, it was man utd away when we won 2-1
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Rush when he scored 3 on a Friday night game in the olden days. (Olden days pre Sky that is)
We'd bossed them first halfm were 1 up and IIRC he scored a tap in and 2 fine finishes.
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Paul Parker playing as Centre Half on the day QPR thrashed us 0-3 courteousy of a Trevor Francis hat trick. That isn't a deliberate slight on Francis rather that Parker was McGrathesque in his reading of the game. Wonderful performance.
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Paul Parker playing as Centre Half on the day QPR thrashed us 0-3 courteousy of a Trevor Francis hat trick. That isn't a deliberate slight on Francis rather that Parker was McGrathesque in his reading of the game. Wonderful performance.
I got an overnight train / ferry from Paris for that one, so was somewhat jaded, but didn't we lose 3-1.
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Yes Platt scored first and then it all went downhill.
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Ah, apologies. You know how time alters things. It felt like three nil.
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Bale with hat trick in that 4-0 second half demolition but we were shit.
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Rush when he scored 3 on a Friday night game in the olden days. (Olden days pre Sky that is)
We'd bossed them first halfm were 1 up and IIRC he scored a tap in and 2 fine finishes.
If I remember right it was an icy pitch and the players were wearing those 'pimpled soled' trainers. I think Dennis Mortimer put us one up and then Rush got to work. I'm pretty sure it was January 20th as I recall it being on my mums birthday. This may sound weird (I do remember some random things) but I'm pretty sure I went back home and watched a repeat of The Sweeney.
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I remember all the things mentioned so far, going one up before Rush got to work, the icy pitch etc... - Am I right in thinking it was a 7.15pm ko and for those Friday night games half time was only about 7 minutes - I seem to remember the games being over before 9pm ?
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I remember all the things mentioned so far, going one up before Rush got to work, the icy pitch etc... - Am I right in thinking it was a 7.15pm ko and for those Friday night games half time was only about 7 minutes - I seem to remember the games being over before 9pm ?
I think they used to start just after 7.00 but yep they'd be over in time for 9.00 o'clock news.
I think I watched the Paul Hogan Show as opposed to the Sweeney
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I remember all the things mentioned so far, going one up before Rush got to work, the icy pitch etc... - Am I right in thinking it was a 7.15pm ko and for those Friday night games half time was only about 7 minutes - I seem to remember the games being over before 9pm ?
I think they used to start just after 7.00 but yep they'd be over in time for 9.00 o'clock news.
I think I watched the Paul Hogan Show as opposed to the Sweeney
I think you could have watched both. Wasn't Paul Hogan on Channel 4 at ten and The Sweeney on ITV at half ten after the news?
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I remember all the things mentioned so far, going one up before Rush got to work, the icy pitch etc... - Am I right in thinking it was a 7.15pm ko and for those Friday night games half time was only about 7 minutes - I seem to remember the games being over before 9pm ?
I think they used to start just after 7.00 but yep they'd be over in time for 9.00 o'clock news.
I think I watched the Paul Hogan Show as opposed to the Sweeney
I think you could have watched both. Wasn't Paul Hogan on Channel 4 at ten and The Sweeney on ITV at half ten after the news?
Probably but I would likely have had a match for the school the next day so bed time. Being only 11, I think The Sweeney was a bit out of bounds