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Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 31, 2010, 02:45:41 PM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/07/31/aston-villa-barry-bannan-is-eager-to-make-a-big-impact-at-aston-villa-this-season-97319-26967910/

I think he'd do very well somewhere like Arse myself.
Title: Re: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: adrenachrome on July 31, 2010, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/07/31/aston-villa-barry-bannan-is-eager-to-make-a-big-impact-at-aston-villa-this-season-97319-26967910/

I think he'd do very well somewhere; like Arse myself.


Fair play to you, and I admire your bravery coming out on here, but what has that got to do with little Baz?.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: spangley1812 on July 31, 2010, 03:09:26 PM
I havnt seen a lot of him but I havnt been over impressed with what I have seen. I do not think he will go on to be a first team regular at Villa, a smaller club ie Wigan, Blues, Wolves, Baggies maybe.

His size is an issue and he can easily be disposessed, He is not that quick either and to back my statement up I will use last season as an example when he was at Blackpool and found himself used as a sub mainly. The club website shows 21 appearances but 13 as a sub and just 1 goal
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: "spangley1812"
I havnt seen a lot of him l


There isn't a lot of him to see.

He's a good player, comfortable on the ball, intelligent reader of the game,  has an eye for a pass and has impressed at the level he's played at so far. Whether he's good enough for a top 6 PL side I have no idea but he's got a chance.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Holtemeister on July 31, 2010, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
There isn't a lot of him to see.

He's a good player, comfortable on the ball, intelligent reader of the game,  has an eye for a pass and has impressed at the level he's played at so far. Whether he's good enough for a top 6 PL side I have no idea but he's got a chance.


He will be fine ..... cause we will struggle to be a top six side !!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 31, 2010, 03:41:17 PM
The way it's going all the kids are in with a chance!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Arsey on July 31, 2010, 03:51:46 PM
Quote from: "spangley1812"
I havnt seen a lot of him but I havnt been over impressed with what I have seen. I do not think he will go on to be a first team regular at Villa, a smaller club ie Wigan, Blues, Wolves, Baggies maybe.

His size is an issue and he can easily be disposessed, He is not that quick either and to back my statement up I will use last season as an example when he was at Blackpool and found himself used as a sub mainly. The club website shows 21 appearances but 13 as a sub and just 1 goal


Wasn't his goal for Blackpool an absolute screamer?  

I think it more likely he'll be shipped off for another season long loan./
Title: barry banann
Post by: darren woolley on July 31, 2010, 03:53:20 PM
I think he deserve's a chance.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
The way it's going all the kids are in with a chance!


I think that's true for most clubs now, the new squad rules mean that they'll feature much more.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
The way it's going all the kids are in with a chance!


I think that's true for most clubs now, the new squad rules mean that they'll feature much more.


I hope that is the case as we have a good youth set up and football just seems better, more honest that way - where clubs strive to develop players rather than just signing joe bloggs for XXm.

Besides its not done Barca too much harm over the years...
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 31, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
I can see him ending up at Celtic where his family comes from ( Glasgey).
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Clampy on July 31, 2010, 04:41:08 PM
He had a good game at Walsall the other night. I don't think his size should matter too much. Alan Wright was a bit titchy but he was a decent player.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: sfx412 on July 31, 2010, 04:55:29 PM
As a keen alan wright fan I agree with you he was a much maligned decent player. Many Villa fans thought otherwise and often expressed so when he played.
Bannan has plenty of attributes but like all our supposed 'star' potentials, needs to step up.
How they do so with such an intransigent and tactically limited manager is the real question.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 05:36:25 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
As a keen alan wright fan I agree with you he was a much maligned decent player. Many Villa fans thought otherwise and often expressed so when he played.
Bannan has plenty of attributes but like all our supposed 'star' potentials, needs to step up.
How they do so with such an intransigent and tactically limited manager is the real question.


Is this how it is going to be now? Every thread used as an excuse by the same small group of people to have a pop at the manager. It really is boring.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 31, 2010, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "sfx412"
As a keen alan wright fan I agree with you he was a much maligned decent player. Many Villa fans thought otherwise and often expressed so when he played.
Bannan has plenty of attributes but like all our supposed 'star' potentials, needs to step up.
How they do so with such an intransigent and tactically limited manager is the real question.


Is this how it is going to be now? Every thread used as an excuse by the same small group of people to have a pop at the manager. It really is boring.



Waht do you mean 'now'?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Irish villain on July 31, 2010, 09:10:37 PM
He was good against Bohemians.

As a short man myself, I really hope he makes it.

Is he really 5 '7? I thought he looked more like Alan Wright's height, 5 '4' wasn't it?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 31, 2010, 11:25:46 PM
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "sfx412"
As a keen alan wright fan I agree with you he was a much maligned decent player. Many Villa fans thought otherwise and often expressed so when he played.
Bannan has plenty of attributes but like all our supposed 'star' potentials, needs to step up.
How they do so with such an intransigent and tactically limited manager is the real question.


Is this how it is going to be now? Every thread used as an excuse by the same small group of people to have a pop at the manager. It really is boring.



What do you mean 'now'?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 01, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
He was good against Bohemians.

As a short man myself, I really hope he makes it.

Is he really 5 '7? I thought he looked more like Alan Wright's height, 5 '4' wasn't it?


No way is Bananaman 5ft 7.

I think 5ft 4 is more like it......

I know MON is concerned about his heightness, so he is fighting pretty much a losing battle at VP while he's manager.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Drummond on August 01, 2010, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
The way it's going all the kids are in with a chance!


I think that's true for most clubs now, the new squad rules mean that they'll feature much more.


Not with our manager!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Drummond on August 01, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
And that wasn't me having a pop! Much.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Irish villain on August 01, 2010, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
He was good against Bohemians.

As a short man myself, I really hope he makes it.

Is he really 5 '7? I thought he looked more like Alan Wright's height, 5 '4' wasn't it?


No way is Bananaman 5ft 7.


I think 5ft 4 is more like it......

I know MON is concerned about his heightness, so he is fighting pretty much a losing battle at VP while he's manager.

I got that from his wikipedia page!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2010, 12:12:56 PM
I didn't think Bannan had done that well at Blackburn had he?  He seemed to go from starting a few matches to coming on as a sub for the last few minutes of games.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Chris Smith on August 01, 2010, 12:16:55 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
I didn't think Bannan had done that well at Blackburn had he?  He seemed to go from starting a few matches to coming on as a sub for the last few minutes of games.


He got in trouble for breaking a curfew and was dropped, it wasn't because of how he'd played.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 01, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=50775

Wikepedia say 5ft 7, other accounts say 5ft 5.

I'd say 5ft 4 / 5 myself.

He is a very talented player, he'd possbily be a star in other, more technically focussed countries which is a sad indicement on the English game I reckon.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: miffa on August 01, 2010, 12:37:32 PM
I don't see his height being a problem if he's good enough.
The likes of Owen, Messi, and Arshavin will bare testiment to that
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 01, 2010, 12:38:40 PM
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

“It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: paul_e on August 01, 2010, 01:20:06 PM
As I said during the world cup, if he's going to make it he needs to watch videos of xavi and iniesta and see how they tackle and keep possession.  Neither of them are much bigger than him and have both made it at the very top (and are probably in the top5 players in the world).

If he can learn to use his low centre of gravity how they do he'll be a great player.  I always think the biggest indicator of talent in youngsters is their first touch and their attitude.  On both of those measures he's up with clark, albrighton and delfouneso and I think all 4 will make it in the prem.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: VillaZogmariner on August 01, 2010, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

“It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)


I've a feeling that they may be illegal to wear. (As in players are not allowed to wear jewellry/wristbands or what have you). Maybe one of the referee posters on here can clarify?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

“It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)


There's one born every minute..

&feature=related

A more detailed explanation here:
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: MadJohnnyC on August 01, 2010, 02:46:23 PM
Stephen Cooke all over again
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: adrenachrome on August 01, 2010, 02:46:59 PM
I would normally laugh this sort of stuff off as harmless hippy New Age nonsense, but there does seem to be some kind of movement to roll back the rationalism of the Enlightenment.

I do enjoy watching The Dog Whisperer, though.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

“It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)


New age nonsense.  If being ginger and crap weren't enough reason to get rid of Sidders, then spreading this load of bollocks around the dressing room should be.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 03:01:50 PM
If he pings a few more in like last night he can don love beads and recite mantras in the centre circle pre kick off for all I care.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

“It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)


New age nonsense.  If being ginger and crap weren't enough reason to get rid of Sidders, then spreading this load of bollocks around the dressing room should be.


There was an independent study done in North America soliciting the expert opinions of numerous physios, doctors, cardiologists and other such intelligent folk. They concluded that the band was a load of bollocks and had no measurable impact at all on energy levels or balance etc etc. However, they did concede that if you believed it worked, much like a placebo then it may provide some benefit. Eventually some kid will point out the emperor of the wrist bands is naked and everyone will laugh and stop wearing them.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What's this mumbo-jumbo on the end of the story about?

"And the midfielder has been sporting a secret weapon in pre-season – a balance wristband which supposedly improves balance, strength and flexibility.

They contain a Mylar hologram designed to work with the body’s natural energy flow.

It was Steve Sidwell who put me on to them, he wears one,” added Bannan.

 Express and Star - clicky (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2010/08/01/barry-bannan-out-to-make-it-big-with-aston-villa/#ixzz0vLyA1DJE)


Magic Wrist Band? Worn by Sidwell?

Is it like an evolution of Harry Potter's invisibility cloak?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 04:37:25 PM
I thought it was James Collins that wore one under some white tape.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Risso"
I didn't think Bannan had done that well at Blackburn had he?  He seemed to go from starting a few matches to coming on as a sub for the last few minutes of games.


He got in trouble for breaking a curfew and was dropped, it wasn't because of how he'd played.


And it was Blackpool.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
I meant Blackpool of course.  Northern shitholes starting with the word Black, easy mistake!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
I love watching Barry play. Don't think he'll make it at the top, and selfishly, I'd be happy to watch him in our reserves for years. Really though, I'd love him to get first team football somewhere. I'm sure he will, the question is, at what level?
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 01, 2010, 05:35:28 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
I love watching Barry play. Don't think he'll make it at the top, and selfishly, I'd be happy to watch him in our reserves for years. Really though, I'd love him to get first team football somewhere. I'm sure he will, the question is, at what level?

Percy is right.
I don't think he's good enough for the Premier, he'll make a consistent Championship player if he works hard.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 06:06:04 PM
Choinks!
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: "Mark Fletcher"
Quote from: "Percy"
I love watching Barry play. Don't think he'll make it at the top, and selfishly, I'd be happy to watch him in our reserves for years. Really though, I'd love him to get first team football somewhere. I'm sure he will, the question is, at what level?

Percy is right.
I don't think he's good enough for the Premier, he'll make a consistent Championship player if he works hard.


The thing is, when you're that small, you have to be bloody brilliant to make it to the top. Someone has already mentioned Xavi and Iniesta, and other examples are Maradonna, Messi and Arshavin. Yikes! Good luck with that Baz.
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on August 01, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
i love his attitude... i never forget watching him at a reserve game trying over and over to beat andre bikey in the air for headers...

was brilliant to watch, amusing too, and summed up his work rate and commitment...

unfortunately, i dont think he is going to be a key player for us in the future, as i feel his size is a real concern... and while his attitude is spot on, and his ability is decent enough, i dont think it makes up for his lack of size...
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: mattjpa on August 01, 2010, 08:15:19 PM
I think hes got a good chance. very very good on the ball. sweet delivery on him too......
Title: Barry Bannan and being unlarge
Post by: ktvillan on August 01, 2010, 10:29:05 PM
I've not seen much of Bannan but citing his size as a problem is a typical of the British attitude to the game,  where it's all about pace, power and strength, no matter if you can actually control and keep posession of a football for more than 3 seconds.   Spain have just won the World cup with a team of relative midgets, and their equally diminutive under 19s tore the much bigger, stronger and faster English under 19s a new arsehole whilst walking rings around them and making them look like they were wearing clown shoes.  If Bannan soesnt make it here I'd advise him to head for Spain and look for a club that appreicates touch and tehcnique over height and strength.
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