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Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Lucky Eddie on July 26, 2010, 04:03:24 PM
Haven't seen that flag for yonks - anyone on here know those guys?
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Warren Aspinall on July 26, 2010, 04:15:33 PM
I sometimes frequent the mount & live close by. Do you know there names as I probably know them.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: sfx412 on July 26, 2010, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: "Warren Aspinall"
I sometimes frequent the mount & live close by. Do you know there names as I probably know them.


Drank my first pint of M&B at the mount, age 14 them were the days, playing crib and dominoes with the old codgers in me Villa scarf after a match. Them lads knew a footballer or two :)

The place still there, how about the Beggars Bush and the Charlie ?
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: dicedlam on July 26, 2010, 08:23:37 PM
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 08:24:53 PM
I take it you're talking about a pub? The Mount is a prison also.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: nechells on July 26, 2010, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
I take it you're talking about a pub? The Mount is a prison also.

No-he was talking about the prison

You quite often see flags from prisons up & down the country

"Long Lartin Beer Monstors On Tour-AVFC"

"1874 Was A Good Year For English Football-Vinnie The Cat Was Released"
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Fergal on July 26, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: "diceman"
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.

I used to do that, I grew up on Gainford
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: ez on July 26, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: "Fergal"
Quote from: "diceman"
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.

I used to do that, I grew up on Gainford

Not far from where i used to live, Langholm Drive. Remember the gulley well.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: sfx412 on July 26, 2010, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: "diceman"
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.


nah, never happened only been pissed once and even then I never staggered :) just fell over, several times.

parkeston crescent them were the days
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Perry Barr Pet on July 27, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
The Charlie was shut down when the licence was revoked because of 'the trouble' there.  It then, ironically, re-opened as a boxing venue.  If there's fighting to be had, you might as well make it legal and make some money out of it.

The Mount had some strange Alpine theme in the lounge, like a scene from The Sound of Music, but they were never averse to serving the obviously under-aged so we put up with that.

The Bush was the place to be, with Shirley as the gaffer but with Des, the best barman in Birmingham, running the show.
 
As for the gulley, well if gulleys could talk.....
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: dicedlam on July 28, 2010, 08:37:57 AM
Always a difficult choice to be had at the Charlie on a Friday night.
Either down to the Old Crown, Perry Barr and a fight, followed by the Elbow, or 'Grab a Granny' night at the Tower Ball Room.
or..up the Bush for a drink and possibly pull a posh piece with a few bob, then onto the Belfry.

'Grab a Granny' was always the easiest option.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Fergal on July 28, 2010, 10:21:16 PM
There were a few good bozers around, I spend a few drunken knights sleeping it off in the woods while on my way home from the Oscott Tavern, That place is now some sort of posh gaf, I think
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Somniloquism on July 28, 2010, 11:19:15 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
Quote from: "Warren Aspinall"
I sometimes frequent the mount & live close by. Do you know there names as I probably know them.


Drank my first pint of M&B at the mount, age 14 them were the days, playing crib and dominoes with the old codgers in me Villa scarf after a match. Them lads knew a footballer or two :)

The place still there, how about the Beggars Bush and the Charlie ?


Depending when you were there the Mount is now level with kings road. They levelled the "Mount" it was on and rebuilt the pub.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 29, 2010, 03:02:50 AM
Quote from: "nechells"
Quote from: "peter w"
I take it you're talking about a pub? The Mount is a prison also.

No-he was talking about the prison

You quite often see flags from prisons up & down the country


Clap, clap, clap.  Very funny.
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Californian Villain on July 29, 2010, 05:08:26 AM
Quote from: "Fergal"
There were a few good bozers around, I spend a few drunken knights sleeping it off in the woods while on my way home from the Oscott Tavern, That place is now some sort of posh gaf, I think


Surely the funniest spelling error on here in ages
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: big 1st serve on July 29, 2010, 06:07:09 AM
Quote from: Fergal
There were a few good bozers around, I spend a few drunken knights sleeping it off in the woods while on my way home from tIhe Oscott Tavern, That place is now some sort of posh gaf, I think[/

It became Saints & Sinners , wine bar , then more recently The Place 2 Be, which was owned By Ashley Blake , From The BBC, until a well publicised "incident" @ 18 months ago.
The Garden centre next door have now acquired it , so the once New Oscott Tavern , is now  a posh tea -room.
Should do a roaring trade when the Pope visits  New Oscott college in September !quote]
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: big 1st serve on July 29, 2010, 06:07:43 AM
Quote from: Fergal
There were a few good bozers around, I spend a few drunken knights sleeping it off in the woods while on my way home from tIhe Oscott Tavern, That place is now some sort of posh gaf, I think[/

It became Saints & Sinners , wine bar , then more recently The Place 2 Be, which was owned By Ashley Blake , From The BBC, until a well publicised "incident" @ 18 months ago.
The Garden centre next door have now acquired it , so the once New Oscott Tavern , is now  a posh tea -room.
Should do a roaring trade when the Pope visits  New Oscott college in September !quote]
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: big 1st serve on July 29, 2010, 06:08:06 AM
Quote from: Fergal
There were a few good bozers around, I spend a few drunken knights sleeping it off in the woods while on my way home from tIhe Oscott Tavern, That place is now some sort of posh gaf, I think[/

It became Saints & Sinners , wine bar , then more recently The Place 2 Be, which was owned By Ashley Blake , From The BBC, until a well publicised "incident" @ 18 months ago.
The Garden centre next door have now acquired it , so the once New Oscott Tavern , is now  a posh tea -room.
Should do a roaring trade when the Pope visits  New Oscott college in September !quote]
Title: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: sfx412 on July 29, 2010, 11:40:56 AM
Wasn't the Oscott tavern owned and run by Jimmy Dugdale at one time or another. I seem to remember meeting up with someone there and chatting to him behind the bar area while I waited for our food.
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: KingstandingVilla on April 28, 2017, 11:56:56 AM
The flag/ sheet was sprayed up by me in my house on finchley Road the league cup season. My pal Mike Robinson and I did is as we hadn't seen a KS flag at Villa for a bit.

We took it Arsenal Spurs and Tranmere away, Wembley 94, San Siro, Trabzonspor home, and a few more league games it got lost at Old Trafford 96 cup semi

I used the Mount most nights then, anyone using there will know who I am from my description.. 6ft 3in skinhead, goatee, worked in the fishing shop and then became well known on the Villa casual scene lots of people know me by a nickname of an animal
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 28, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
The flag/ sheet was sprayed up by me in my house on finchley Road the league cup season. My pal Mike Robinson and I did is as we hadn't seen a KS flag at Villa for a bit.

We took it Arsenal Spurs and Tranmere away, Wembley 94, San Siro, Trabzonspor home, and a few more league games it got lost at Old Trafford 96 cup semi

I used the Mount most nights then, anyone using there will know who I am from my description.. 6ft 3in skinhead, goatee, worked in the fishing shop and then became well known on the Villa casual scene lots of people know me by a nickname of an animal
Were you the guy in the yellow cords and pink shirt?
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: KingstandingVilla on April 28, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
Most definitely not haha.. In the acid house days I "may" have wore some psychedelic shit but nothing that far out mate
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Allan C on April 28, 2017, 02:04:53 PM
Had my first ever pint in the Mount back in 1978. It was a completely different pub back then
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: nodge on April 28, 2017, 03:06:31 PM
The flag/ sheet was sprayed up by me in my house on finchley Road the league cup season. My pal Mike Robinson and I did is as we hadn't seen a KS flag at Villa for a bit.

We took it Arsenal Spurs and Tranmere away, Wembley 94, San Siro, Trabzonspor home, and a few more league games it got lost at Old Trafford 96 cup semi

I used the Mount most nights then, anyone using there will know who I am from my description.. 6ft 3in skinhead, goatee, worked in the fishing shop and then became well known on the Villa casual scene lots of people know me by a nickname of an animal

Is that you Spiny lumpsucker?
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: KingstandingVilla on April 28, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
Rumbled..
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Post by: ChicagoLion on April 28, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
Most definitely not haha.. In the acid house days I "may" have wore some psychedelic shit but nothing that far out mate
UTV mate.
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Steve67 on April 29, 2017, 12:27:46 AM
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.

Blimey, that brings back memories. My mum was brought up on Parkeston Crescent. I was brought up on Newstead Road, at the back of the Charlie.
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: Sunny Villa on April 29, 2017, 01:59:27 AM


The flag/ sheet was sprayed up by me in my house on finchley Road the league cup season. My pal Mike Robinson and I did is as we hadn't seen a KS flag at Villa for a bit.

We took it Arsenal Spurs and Tranmere away, Wembley 94, San Siro, Trabzonspor home, and a few more league games it got lost at Old Trafford 96 cup semi

I used the Mount most nights then, anyone using there will know who I am from my description.. 6ft 3in skinhead, goatee, worked in the fishing shop and then became well known on the Villa casual scene lots of people know me by a nickname of an animal


Haha hows tricks .  Mr Delph
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: dave shelley on April 29, 2017, 09:53:11 AM
Only just seen this thread as it was started just before I joined H&V.  Kingstanding.  My mother was brought up on Bendall Road.  I had an uncle that lived in Longford Grove? at the back of the Charlie.  As a teenager, I frequented all of those pubs as they were noted for easy access for underage drinking.  A mate of mine RIP, went on to run the Beggars Bush, I'm guessing sometime in the nineties.

Some of you former Kingstanding dwellers may of heard of a teenage lad having his hand blown off rescuing a bunch of kids from a detonator they had nicked from the old sand pits which they were trying to burn in a cardboard box.  He saw what they were at and tried to throw it down an open-faced drain but he was too late.  He was fifteen and my uncle, my mothers brother.
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: KingstandingVilla on April 29, 2017, 04:18:06 PM


The flag/ sheet was sprayed up by me in my house on finchley Road the league cup season. My pal Mike Robinson and I did is as we hadn't seen a KS flag at Villa for a bit.

We took it Arsenal Spurs and Tranmere away, Wembley 94, San Siro, Trabzonspor home, and a few more league games it got lost at Old Trafford 96 cup semi

I used the Mount most nights then, anyone using there will know who I am from my description.. 6ft 3in skinhead, goatee, worked in the fishing shop and then became well known on the Villa casual scene lots of people know me by a nickname of an animal


Haha hows tricks .  Mr Delph

Very good.. Send me  a PM  as to who you are
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Post by: Sunny Villa on April 30, 2017, 10:37:21 PM
Think of Glasgow and ITK
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on May 01, 2017, 06:58:51 AM
Hello mate hope you're well. Last seen you Wembley...well Kilburn in the club behind the houses
Title: Re: The Mount - 'Kingstanding Beer monsters on tour' flag
Post by: ez on May 01, 2017, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: diceman
The Charlie is now is a bunch of maisonettes.
I can just imagine you now sfx412..pissed up and staggering through the gulley, on your way down Parkeston Cresent.
I used to do that, I grew up on Gainford

I lived on Langholm Drive for a few years.
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Post by: Sunny Villa on May 01, 2017, 11:10:47 PM
. Yeah all good still stateside .my lad who was with me was over the Blues game
Hello mate hope you're well. Last seen you Wembley...well Kilburn in the club behind the houses
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 01, 2024, 12:02:39 PM
hey pal, you still about ? ever get over for games now ?
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Post by: PeterWithe on October 01, 2024, 04:07:45 PM
From reading the early part of this thread, The Beggars Bush was posh at one time, there were women in there?

And bloody hell, 15 years since Ashley Blake had the Oscott Tavern. I saw him not long ago.
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Post by: dave shelley on October 01, 2024, 04:48:02 PM
My mate and his missus ran the Beggar's Bush back in the late seventies early eighties I think it was.
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 02, 2024, 07:49:40 AM
My mate and his missus ran the Beggar's Bush back in the late seventies early eighties I think it was.

Before my time. I started using the pubs round there in 1989/1990 when I left school, prior to that I used to go to Ruskin Hall on game days and eves and have a few cheeky beers
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Post by: Somniloquism on October 04, 2024, 11:18:54 AM
From reading the early part of this thread, The Beggars Bush was posh at one time, there were women in there?

And bloody hell, 15 years since Ashley Blake had the Oscott Tavern. I saw him not long ago.
Compared to some of the others on or bordering Kingstanding, definitely.

The "Charlie" was well named and although the 80's rebuild brought some respectability, the Kingstanding soon took on the King Charles clientele when that shut.

Still remember The Mount being on the mount. God knows how many tonnes of earth was removed when that was rebuilt at "sea level".
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Post by: PeterWithe on October 04, 2024, 11:39:11 AM
I take it the Mount is what is now the Mexican place.?
The King Charles, I cant picture where that would have been as there are shops all around that junction.
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Post by: dave shelley on October 04, 2024, 12:52:36 PM
I take it the Mount is what is now the Mexican place.?
The King Charles, I cant picture where that would have been as there are shops all around that junction.

As you approach along the King's Road from the Sutton direction, you come to a crossroads with Finchley Road on the left, cross the King's Road and that was where the Charlie stood on the right nearest to Kingstanding Circle.  My old pair met each other there for the first time.
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Post by: waringpongo on October 04, 2024, 01:14:04 PM
This discussion takes me back to my early years. I left Kingstanding about 1976 aged 15. I remember a girl in my class at kingsrise juniors brother got killed playing chicken across the road from the Charlie when her parents were in the pub. I remember the mount on a hill so they must of moved a mountain to lower it and can't think why they would do that. We used to walk to Sutton Park over waste land by the Charlie and also we had the Pimple to play on. I got punched in the head a few times in Finchley Park. Happy memories.
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 04, 2024, 01:22:18 PM
I take it the Mount is what is now the Mexican place.?
The King Charles, I cant picture where that would have been as there are shops all around that junction.

As you approach along the King's Road from the Sutton direction, you come to a crossroads with Finchley Road on the left, cross the King's Road and that was where the Charlie stood on the right nearest to Kingstanding Circle.  My old pair met each other there for the first time.


My dad was/ is a musician and him and a fellow musician played at the Charlie regulary, I was on a fishing trip in Northern Ireland and met a guy in a boozer in Bellaghy who lived in Kingstanding years before, and when I mentioned my dads name, straight away he said "guitar player and your moms named Shirley, tall with permed hair " only thing he got wrong was my moms name..small world at times, I couldnt buy a drink that night. This fella had took a shine to me as he knew me dad and bought my ale all night.
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Post by: Somniloquism on October 04, 2024, 01:26:56 PM
I take it the Mount is what is now the Mexican place.?
The King Charles, I cant picture where that would have been as there are shops all around that junction.

The old folks home/ flats was it's replacement.
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Post by: dicedlam on October 04, 2024, 01:43:44 PM
I take it the Mount is what is now the Mexican place.?
The King Charles, I cant picture where that would have been as there are shops all around that junction.

As you approach along the King's Road from the Sutton direction, you come to a crossroads with Finchley Road on the left, cross the King's Road and that was where the Charlie stood on the right nearest to Kingstanding Circle.  My old pair met each other there for the first time.

That's correct dave, the Charlie was on the corner of the kings rd and Hartley Rd. I think they built maisonettes on it. 
It was my regular from the mid-seventies up until I left the country. When I was a kid, my nan (who lived on Tottenham Crescent) used to send me to the Charlie outdoor to collect my grandads mild in the used Alpine pop bottles. You also used to get money back for any returns (which was a regular occurrence for my grandad after having a skin full in the pub).
IIRC, the gaffers name was Mac, a big irish guy.


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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 04, 2024, 01:45:00 PM
Spud Murphy was the only Charlie gaffer I remember
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Post by: dicedlam on October 04, 2024, 02:00:53 PM
Spud Murphy was the only Charlie gaffer I remember

Not sure when you were around KingstandingVilla, but you might know some of my pals from that era? Tony Brown, Ronnie Woodhall, Gary/Chris/Paul Hollander, Mark Jones, Jerry Collins, Dave Edwards. The Newgents.
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 04, 2024, 03:07:43 PM
I knew Tony Turdy Brown, the young Hollendars, Eddie Nugent, and Dave Edwards.

I'm 50 now and I always drank with older blokes up the Mount,in the early 90s who I knew through darts or fishing.Dave Lofty Harrison, Barry Stephens, Terry and Chris Gardner, Jimmy Nolan, Paul Casey, Steve Crocket, George Perry. Dennis Bent, Nigel, Billy and Dave Bryant, Ronnie Malkin, Bob and Pete Langston, Dessie White.

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Post by: dicedlam on October 05, 2024, 09:06:00 AM
I knew Tony Turdy Brown, the young Hollendars, Eddie Nugent, and Dave Edwards.

I'm 50 now and I always drank with older blokes up the Mount,in the early 90s who I knew through darts or fishing.Dave Lofty Harrison, Barry Stephens, Terry and Chris Gardner, Jimmy Nolan, Paul Casey, Steve Crocket, George Perry. Dennis Bent, Nigel, Billy and Dave Bryant, Ronnie Malkin, Bob and Pete Langston, Dessie White.



Yeah, Lofty and the lads were very much into both darts and fishing. Turdy was my best pal and lived across from me on the Kings Rd (I used to live on the corner of Bendall Rd ). Do you remember Monty? another good pal of mine, unfortunately no longer with us like a lot of the old school Charlie lads.
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Post by: KingstandingVilla on October 05, 2024, 11:45:46 AM
I knew Tony Turdy Brown, the young Hollendars, Eddie Nugent, and Dave Edwards.

I'm 50 now and I always drank with older blokes up the Mount,in the early 90s who I knew through darts or fishing.Dave Lofty Harrison, Barry Stephens, Terry and Chris Gardner, Jimmy Nolan, Paul Casey, Steve Crocket, George Perry. Dennis Bent, Nigel, Billy and Dave Bryant, Ronnie Malkin, Bob and Pete Langston, Dessie White.



Yeah, Lofty and the lads were very much into both darts and fishing. Turdy was my best pal and lived across from me on the Kings Rd (I used to live on the corner of Bendall Rd ). Do you remember Monty? another good pal of mine, unfortunately no longer with us like a lot of the old school Charlie lads.

I was out with Lofty last night, and will see him Monday, it's my ex wife/kids mums funeral and he's popping along to pay his respects. Top bloke, been like a dad to me over the years. Turdy was always a good crack. Saw him in the Hind a lot. I'd imagine there's a few years age wise between me and you I'm just coming up to 51
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