Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: pmk1981 on July 26, 2010, 02:01:53 PM
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pmk1981 on July 26, 2010, 02:01:53 PM
Redkapp is at it again. On the sky sports site he has said he isn’t interested in young or milner… he says the following
Asked about Milner, Redknapp told Sky Sports News: "No, we wouldn't be able to. "Anybody would like James Milner, he's an outstanding young player, but he'd be way out of our depth."
On Young, Redknapp added: "Again, I wouldn't think they'd want to sell Ashley Young. "He is a good player but he belongs to Villa. We've not made any enquiries for him at all."
What a Git !!
i remember he said the same about Keane before he signed him !!
I know he will never get young or milner but he like his attempts to let the players know how much he wants them without actually saying he does !!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 26, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
In fairness he was asked about those players directly after the game in NJ and gave pretty specific responses.
The time they were linked with Keane he was giving enigmatic clues like"I'm not sure we can afford him."
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 26, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on July 26, 2010, 02:31:23 PM
Think "twitch Rednapp" was very honest about Milner and Ash. But i think he might be planning an identity fraud on them .........
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 26, 2010, 02:35:08 PM
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Agreed, to infer that Redknapp is a crooked underhand manipulative operator who uses dodgy dealing methods is not on. Stop it.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pmk1981 on July 26, 2010, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Agreed, to infer that Redknapp is a crooked underhand manipulative operator who use dodgy dealing methods is not on. Stop it.
sorry, i take it back. I think redknapp is as honest as jesus
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 26, 2010, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Agreed, to infer that Redknapp is a crooked underhand manipulative operator who use dodgy dealing methods is not on. Stop it.
Calling him a crook is not on, mind.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 26, 2010, 02:42:15 PM
I like Redknapp as much as I like a cold. But in this instance I find him not guilty. Apparently Spurs havent got that much to spend and Milner and Young are out of their price range.
Whatever Milner goes for, if he does, Young is worth more in my opinion.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 02:43:19 PM
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 26, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I find him deeply irritating, with all that "the boy done terrific for us" mangling of the English language, and his talking about other teams players in public (which I think is harsh in this instance), but he is one of the few characters in the game at the moment.
He's also done a really excellent job at Spurs.
Champions League and they played some excellent football last season.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 26, 2010, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
Probably.
Theres one idiot who wanted to throw coins at him and did.
Theres 39,998 who while wanting to throw coins at him, never would and strongly disapprove of the idiot who did.
And theres you.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 02:51:44 PM
I think he was referring to the score when 2 fingers went up to the Holte......
No Oxford Grad., but as Paulie says, a character in a game devoid of them.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
Probably.
Theres one idiot who wanted to throw coins at him and did.
Theres 39,998 who while wanting to throw coins at him, never would and strongly disapprove of the idiot who did.
And theres you.
I like being different ;-)
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 26, 2010, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Agreed, to infer that Redknapp is a crooked underhand manipulative operator who use dodgy dealing methods is not on. Stop it.
Calling him a crook is not on, mind.
Quite right, he has only been accused of being a crook by the City of Westminster police. It hasn't been proven in court yet.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 26, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"
I can picture Dave Woodhall having a minor heart attack over the title of this thread....
Agreed, to infer that Redknapp is a crooked underhand manipulative operator who use dodgy dealing methods is not on. Stop it.
Calling him a crook is not on, mind.
Quite right, he has only been accused of being a crook by the City of Westminster police. It hasn't been proven in court yet.
yet..........i like it
Title: redknapp
Post by: darren woolley on July 26, 2010, 03:05:59 PM
Personally i dont think a.young will go anyway i just wish we could get the james milner business sorted asap i really dont think spurs will be in the bidding for either of them.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 26, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
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Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
He's also done a really excellent job at Spurs.
Champions League and they played some excellent football last season.
Agreed. What shocked me was the way they finished last season. To string together some fantastic results against all the big boys, game after game, demonstrated they're certainly heading in the right direction. I hate to say it but Spurs actually look like a top 4 side.
I've always thought Redknapp's biggest weakness is when he has some money to spend. It must be the barrow boy in him, seeing himself as some kind of supreme wheeler-dealer, he just can't help himself and normally makes a mess with his tinkering of the squad. Sadly, Spurs won't give him enough money to destroy what he's created.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Watched this interview and the title thread is total bollocks- redknapp was asked about the players in question and stated clearly that were Aston villa s players and he didn't think villa were interested in selling young whereas milner they couldn't afford.
He was asked about them and answered quite rightly, Im no redknapp fan but the bloke has said sod all wrong here, totally pointless and misleading thread!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TheSandman on July 26, 2010, 03:38:57 PM
He may have many undesirable qualities but he has one desirable one and that is that he is an excellent manager.
I think he is just honest here. He says they're our players, we won't sell one of them and he can't afford either. Would Spurs pay £25-30million on any player?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 26, 2010, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: "east19"
Watched this interview and the title thread is total bollocks- redknapp was asked about the players in question and stated clearly that were Aston villa s players and he didn't think villa were interested in selling young whereas milner they couldn't afford.
He was asked about them and answered quite rightly, Im no redknapp fan but the bloke has said sod all wrong here, totally pointless and misleading thread!
im not having a go at him because of that interview, i havent seen the interview. . Im having a go cos i saw arry`s name, and because I can.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 26, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 26, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
I think he was referring to the score when 2 fingers went up to the Holte......
No Oxford Grad., but as Paulie says, a character in a game devoid of them.
That's where I'd disagree.
I respect the job he's done at Tottingham, it would be hard not to.
But he's an odious little twerp.
The original game at VP IN 2007 was crying out for a bit of humour in response. We've dished out similar barbs to Grobelaar, Benitez and others in the past. They took it on the chin, could even be seen laughing at it.
Redknapp lost it, not just during the game but afterwards as well. Slating the Villa fans on camera. Humourless, wonky faced spiv.
Not excusing at all the bellend who threw the 50p at him the following season (what a waste of 50p BTW), but 'arry hadn't helped himself with his antics the previous year. Telling the world all about other clubs transfer business and fathering Jamie Redknapp hardly furthers his cause either.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 03:52:18 PM
At least he's got one thing going for him- the hottest daughter in law in the premiership!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: villa1 on July 26, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
I don't really see as he's done a lot wrong this time.
He usually talks about players at other clubs but on this occasion he just admitted that everyone would like Young and Milner (which we know anyway) but that they were out of their league.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: march on July 26, 2010, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: "east19"
he didn't think villa were interested in selling young whereas milner they couldn't afford.
In my view MON would want more money for Young than Milner
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: DB on July 26, 2010, 04:59:27 PM
Whatever you think of him, he was only answering a question that was put to him. Sky know exactly what they are doing when they interview him...they have airtime to fill. Get that Charlotte Jackson to rub Georgie's boobs, with her own, that should do it...cripes!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Leighton on July 26, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
Never really been the biggest fan of him, but given the choice between the players that Harry will go out and sign and the players that Mon will go out and sign, well I know whom I would rather have! His teams play more exciting football than Mon’s too.
Still a twitchy faced cock though.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 26, 2010, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 26, 2010, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
Even then, just about every player he signed was sold for a massive profit.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
It's well known that players love playing for him.
Crouch was useless at VP, now look at him - just one example.
Granted, he isn't a saint, but he is a football man through and through and that's what I love about him.
Plus, I think he tries to get is teams playing proper football.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 06:26:38 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
I worked Down South for a bit and worked with many Bournemouth and Southampton fans.They were wondering what was happening to money 15 years a go,You have no idea what you are on about.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 26, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
I worked Down South for a bit and worked with many Bournemouth and Southampton fans.They were wondering what was happening to money 15 years a go,You have no idea what you are on about.
15 years ago Redknapp was long gone from Bournemouth and even longer away from managing Southampton.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 06:33:47 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
Even then, just about every player he signed was sold for a massive profit.
All of the above in Administration down to him.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 26, 2010, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
Even then, just about every player he signed was sold for a massive profit.
All of the above in Administration down to him.
Really? He left Bournemouth in 1992, West Ham in 2001, Portsmouth in 2004, Southampton in 2005 (after less than a year).
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I can't help but like him, mainly because he's such a pantomime villain.
And left every club he has been at in the right shit.
Except for Bournemouth and West Ham. And Southampton.
So, Portsmouth, ultimately.
Even then, just about every player he signed was sold for a massive profit.
All of the above in Administration down to him.
Really? He left Bournemouth in 1992, West Ham in 2001, Portsmouth in 2004, Southampton in 2005 (after less than a year).
When he left Bournemouth they had just been relegated and had no squad.Sound familiar? He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
He has never signed cheques, has he ?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: spangley1812 on July 26, 2010, 07:16:49 PM
Quote from: "east19"
Watched this interview and the title thread is total bollocks- redknapp was asked about the players in question and stated clearly that were Aston villa s players and he didn't think villa were interested in selling young whereas milner they couldn't afford.
He was asked about them and answered quite rightly, Im no redknapp fan but the bloke has said sod all wrong here, totally pointless and misleading thread!
I agree this thread is a waste of cyberspace, it should be obvious to anyone with a brain that Spurs cannot afford Milner and Harry was only replying to a question that was based on tabloid rumours
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
Redknapp really is a myth. You won't find many West Ham fans with a lot to say about him in the positive. He has right royally fecked up Southampton and Portsmouth also.
As for Tottenham - he's a good manager for them. Spend lots of money and get lots of players in. The danger for them is actually what they have got, 4th. He'll be demanding more money to buy more players and will be pushing for more and more - he's even been talking titles.
All that does it raise fans expectancy and gets the crowd on his side and against the board if it doesn't go right as he'll peddle the old - "If I could have got the players I wanted but the board..." he's pushing Tottenham beyond their means. They need a good run in the CL to keep up with him. Or more realistically to go out early and finish 6th or 7th to not allow him to overstretch them. If not they're my next bet for a Prem team looking over their shoulders at the administrator.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
Not wth Levy in charge he won't.
He's a football man not a finance man, self confessed.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on July 26, 2010, 07:50:33 PM
Ok i am gonna say it. I like "twitchy Rednapp" but if i dropped my credit card. He would be the last person i would want to pick it up .............
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 07:53:06 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Not wth Levy in charge he won't.
He's a football man not a finance man, self confessed.
True - but with Redknapp around it'll be like Rainman meeting Fagin.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 26, 2010, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
I agree with Risso.
The myth is just that, one of leaving every club he's managed on some sort of moonlight flit with a swagbag over his back.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
Every club he has been at has ended up being in administration.Never 'Arry's fault. You talk complete Arse!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
I agree with Risso.
The myth is just that, one of leaving every club he's managed on some sort of moonlight flit with a swagbag over his back.
Well if he's artound Sendo can tell us about West Ham but that's exactly what he did at Southampton and Portsmouth.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:07:24 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
I agree with Risso.
The myth is just that, one of leaving every club he's managed on some sort of moonlight flit with a swagbag over his back.
I will say it again.Every club he has been at end's up in administration,Fuck me Arry must be unlucky.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 08:08:31 PM
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Shrek on July 26, 2010, 08:10:18 PM
I'm lost here? He was asked a question and answered it.
I wish our manager let the fans know what's going on more often!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:17:48 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
Not really, just fed up with people who think he can do no wrong and belive what they read in the London press.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Yes,he has taken bungs.Next question?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 08:25:48 PM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Yes,he has taken bungs.Next question?
Brian Clough? John Gregory? Ron Atkinson?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Yes,he has taken bungs.Next question?
Brian Clough? John Gregory? Ron Atkinson?
Yep,all took bungs,I like this game.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
Harry gave west ham stability when he was there and is their best manager since greenwood, as for Pompey he gave them their most success in 60 yrs , fa cup win , european football and top 7 finish and it was that clown Adams in charge who saw them go something like 20 games without a win .
As for the money, he's the manager so will want the best players he can get, if they can't afford it blame the chairmen who paid it!
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 26, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Yes,he has taken bungs.Next question?
Brian Clough? John Gregory? Ron Atkinson?
Lock em all up ( put Cloughie in a pauper's grave) throw away the key, rename Brian Clough Way - Bung's Avenue.
Anyone else while we're putting the world to right ?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: paul_e on July 26, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
In fairness Redknapp seems to have worked at perfecting his driving teams into administration routine over the years.
Bournemouth - got them relegated having sold most of their younger players and left them with no reserves or youth to speak of and an old first team. Subsequent managers then completed the job by trying to buy a new squad from scratch each time rather than rebuilding the club from the ground up.
West Ham - signed a fair number of foreign mercenaries on wages that were far too high for their ability and left the club struggling for money and having to sell people like lampard, johnson and cole to keep afloat. The lasting effect being that the present owner had to take whatever he could and sold the club to the icelandic guys in a desperate bid to keep the club going.
Southampton - he arrived, signed a few players who were on too much money and then deserted them when they were clearly screwed to go back to...
Portsmouth - no comment needed.
The important thing to remember though is that the chairmen at those clubs during his time were all pretty shit at their job and didn't reign him in, so he just kept on spending the money. I can't see that happening at spurs as, regardless of the fact that he's a complete knob, Levy is actually very good at running the business side of the club.
They also have the advantage of having a much bigger fan base than their history or quality justifies, which makes it fairly easy for Tottenham to sort themselves out if they do let him have a mad summer and buy everyone under the sun. You just have to look at the reported turnover figures to back this up.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 26, 2010, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "peter w"
You feel passionately about this one bigad?
:-)
Sure appears so.
He no like Arry.
How about George Graham bigad ?
Yes,he has taken bungs.Next question?
Brian Clough? John Gregory? Ron Atkinson?
Lock em all up ( put Cloughie in a pauper's grave) throw away the key, rename Brian Clough Way - Bung's Avenue.
Anyone else while we're putting the world to right ?
You asked the questions,you can kill the Monkey.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
Find it strange some of the people slagging off redknapp- maybe they should look closer to home at the current incumbent of the villa managers seat?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2010, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: "east19"
Find it strange some of the people slagging off redknapp- maybe they should look closer to home at the current incumbent of the villa managers seat?
So we can't have an opinion of any other manager?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 08:47:48 PM
Nobody said that peter, but I just find it strange redknapp being slagged off having won the fa cup at little Pompey , taken them to Europe and reached the champions league at spurs just 18 months after they were bottom of the league-I wish our manager could achieve those things.
If chairmen pay what they can't afford then they are to blame for finance, the manager will ask for the best he can hope for , it's down to them to say no.
In the same way people can criticise him, people can also defend him .
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: paul_e on July 26, 2010, 08:51:07 PM
Because O'neill has made it his business to talk about other teams transfers for most of his career?
The only team Mon has left in a bad place is Celtic but it's really incredibly unfair to slag him off over that as it's common knowledge that he left because his wife was seriously ill.
Wycombe he took from a non-league club to a team established in the football leagues, Leicester he gave the most successful period in their history (probably) and Norwich he didn't do well but he didn't leave them in any kind of major trouble.
The other thing to note is that no one is slagging Redknapp achievements, it's how he's got them that's being questioned.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: eastie on July 26, 2010, 09:18:50 PM
I'm not saying o neill is a bad manager but he is also nowhere near as good a manager as some would have you believe, he's done an ok job at villa so far , with an awful lot of money at his disposal , no more no less in my opinion.
Redknapp has acheived more in his 18 months at spurs than mon has in 4 years at villa though, and his teams play much more attractive football too.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: adrenachrome on July 27, 2010, 01:16:59 AM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I like him, at least he knows what he is talking about, has genuine enthusiasm for the game, and makes some interesting observations as a TV talking head. Much like MON, in that respect.
As for allegedly taking bungs, I couldn't give a rat's ass, and that so called documentary exposure on BBC was a joke.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2010, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
I agree with Risso.
The myth is just that, one of leaving every club he's managed on some sort of moonlight flit with a swagbag over his back.
I will say it again.Every club he has been at end's up in administration,Fuck me Arry must be unlucky.
When were West Ham in administration?
Redknapp left Bournemouth in 1992. Bournemouth went into adminstration in 2008, 16 years later. Are you really trying to tell me that was Redknapp's fault?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
I think blaming a Manager for going into Administration is incorrect anyway.
Look at Leeds, Mr Ridsdale rightly got all the stick.
If Redknapp was signing the cheques I think bigbad82 may have a point, but as he never has had that authority and purely looked after the football side of things, blaming him for any club he managed going into Adminsitration is just wrong.
I think he just hates Redknapp.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 27, 2010, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "bigad82"
He has left club after club in the shit and fucked off and let sombody else pick up the pieces.
Utter nonsense.
I agree with Risso.
The myth is just that, one of leaving every club he's managed on some sort of moonlight flit with a swagbag over his back.
I will say it again.Every club he has been at end's up in administration,Fuck me Arry must be unlucky.
When were West Ham in administration?
Redknapp left Bournemouth in 1992. Bournemouth went into adminstration in 2008, 16 years later. Are you really trying to tell me that was Redknapp's fault?
The 2008 Administration was Bournemouths 2nd time. They definitely went into Administration in the early to mid 90's because I remember visiting them on behalf of a major creditor I was working for at the time. Think it was '95. So still a moot point as to whether you could blame Redknapp.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: BannedUserIAT on July 27, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
I think blaming a Manager for going into Administration is incorrect anyway.
Look at Leeds, Mr Ridsdale rightly got all the stick.
If Redknapp was signing the cheques I think bigbad82 may have a point, but as he never has had that authority and purely looked after the football side of things, blaming him for any club he managed going into Adminsitration is just wrong.
I agree with you for the most part but I'd wager that arrogant pricks like Redknob and O'Dreary would be in the ear of their chairmen telling them wondeful stories about how they'll coach the player so well and have them playing so well that they'll only increase in value, thereby ensuring the clubs future. On top of that, Harry will be getting the ok to buy a player then likely doing all kinds of dodgy deals via the agent.
I don't believe for a second that it's a coincidence that a trail of financial destruction follows closely behind Redknap.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Dr Butler on July 27, 2010, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: "Troy Eccles"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
I think blaming a Manager for going into Administration is incorrect anyway.
Look at Leeds, Mr Ridsdale rightly got all the stick.
If Redknapp was signing the cheques I think bigbad82 may have a point, but as he never has had that authority and purely looked after the football side of things, blaming him for any club he managed going into Adminsitration is just wrong.
I agree with you for the most part but I'd wager that arrogant pricks like Redknob and O'Dreary would be in the ear of their chairmen telling them wondeful stories about how they'll coach the player so well and have them playing so well that they'll only increase in value, thereby ensuring the clubs future. On top of that, Harry will be getting the ok to buy a player then likely doing all kinds of dodgy deals via the agent.
I don't believe for a second that it's a coincidence that a trail of financial destruction follows closely behind Redknap.
it isn't
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 27, 2010, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: "Troy Eccles"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
I think blaming a Manager for going into Administration is incorrect anyway.
Look at Leeds, Mr Ridsdale rightly got all the stick.
If Redknapp was signing the cheques I think bigbad82 may have a point, but as he never has had that authority and purely looked after the football side of things, blaming him for any club he managed going into Adminsitration is just wrong.
I agree with you for the most part but I'd wager that arrogant pricks like Redknob and O'Dreary would be in the ear of their chairmen telling them wondeful stories about how they'll coach the player so well and have them playing so well that they'll only increase in value, thereby ensuring the clubs future. On top of that, Harry will be getting the ok to buy a player then likely doing all kinds of dodgy deals via the agent.
I don't believe for a second that it's a coincidence that a trail of financial destruction follows closely behind Redknap.
Part of the reason he was shown the door at West Ham was his use of the Ferdinand money.
£18 million (which is a lot now, nevermind then) and the majority of it all spunked on dross. Most of whom had the same agent.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: myf on July 27, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: "adrenachrome"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I like him, at least he knows what he is talking about, has genuine enthusiasm for the game, and makes some interesting observations as a TV talking head. Much like MON, in that respect.
As for allegedly taking bungs, I couldn't give a rat's ass, and that so called documentary exposure on BBC was a joke.
He's a media whore / rent-a-quote but I think he is a cracking manager. All his teams play attractive football and are usually quite successful.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
Players love him because he speaks their language. Which is some sort of primitive mongoloid barking.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Players love him because he speaks their language. Which is some sort of primitive mongoloid barking.
A bit judgemental Maz.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Concrete John on July 27, 2010, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: "myf"
Quote from: "adrenachrome"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I like him, at least he knows what he is talking about, has genuine enthusiasm for the game, and makes some interesting observations as a TV talking head. Much like MON, in that respect.
As for allegedly taking bungs, I couldn't give a rat's ass, and that so called documentary exposure on BBC was a joke.
He's a media whore / rent-a-quote but I think he is a cracking manager. All his teams play attractive football and are usually quite successful.
Something of a mis-conception when you take into account Spurs played more long balls than any other PL side last season.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Quote from: "myf"
Quote from: "adrenachrome"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I like him, at least he knows what he is talking about, has genuine enthusiasm for the game, and makes some interesting observations as a TV talking head. Much like MON, in that respect.
As for allegedly taking bungs, I couldn't give a rat's ass, and that so called documentary exposure on BBC was a joke.
He's a media whore / rent-a-quote but I think he is a cracking manager. All his teams play attractive football and are usually quite successful.
Something of a mis-conception when you take into account Spurs played more long balls than any other PL side last season.
that team outplayed us twice last season by a mile.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 27, 2010, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Something of a mis-conception when you take into account Spurs played more long balls than any other PL side last season.
If you asked 100 neutrals who played the better football last season, us or Tottenham, how many do you think would choose us?
Serious question.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Players love him because he speaks their language. Which is some sort of primitive mongoloid barking.
A bit judgemental Maz.
So? Have you not read any of my other posts?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 27, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Quote from: "myf"
Quote from: "adrenachrome"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Am I the only Villa fan to not totally dislike Arry ?
I like him, at least he knows what he is talking about, has genuine enthusiasm for the game, and makes some interesting observations as a TV talking head. Much like MON, in that respect.
As for allegedly taking bungs, I couldn't give a rat's ass, and that so called documentary exposure on BBC was a joke.
He's a media whore / rent-a-quote but I think he is a cracking manager. All his teams play attractive football and are usually quite successful.
Something of a mis-conception when you take into account Spurs played more long balls than any other PL side last season.
Which pretty much proves the fallacy of most football-related stats.
Anytime I seen Tottenham last year they looked a bright, inventive side with more than one way of playing.
Us? Well, we got the ball out wide to Ash and tried to cross it. And if that didn't work, we got Ash to switch flanks, got the ball out wide and crossed it. And if that failed, we got the ball out wide and... I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this.
There is also a fundamental difference between smashing the ball up front (or to the flanks) or playing long, accurate passes. Something which a stat that only measures how far the ball travelled would probably fail to pick up on.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Concrete John on July 27, 2010, 01:36:23 PM
Tim and Paulie:-
I'm not saying Spurs don't play attractive stuff at times, just pointing out that they also like to hit it long, which is a good balance all sides should have.
What I was disagreeing with is the notion that Redknapp is some form of football purist like Wenger or Brian Clough.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 01:37:04 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Players love him because he speaks their language. Which is some sort of primitive mongoloid barking.
A bit judgemental Maz.
So? Have you not read any of my other posts?
Well yes, but not all 15,210 admitadly - why ?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
£18 million (which is a lot now, nevermind then) and the majority of it all spunked on dross. Most of whom had the same agent.
According to Soccerbase, between selling Ferdinand and leaving West Ham, Redknapp bought the following players:
Song and Camara (from Liverpool) for about £2m each, Christian Dailly for £1.75m from Blackburn, and Todorov for £500K, who went to be a sensation for him at Portsmouth. About £7m spent in total.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 27, 2010, 01:53:49 PM
Thought there was more than that TBF, but either way the board at West Ham said they were letting him go because they were 'disappointed' with the use of transfer funds post- Ferdinand.
There was also a suggestion at the time (not sure how true) that the club were being checked out by the authorities and it was decided it was best for all parties if 'arry moved on.
The use of the same agent for most deals came to light about 18 months later.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Players love him because he speaks their language. Which is some sort of primitive mongoloid barking.
A bit judgemental Maz.
So? Have you not read any of my other posts?
Well yes, but not all 15,210 admitadly - why ?
Do you have any sense of humour at all?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
Nope, humourless, that's me !
I think you are saying all footballers are as thick as pig shit ?
I don't think you can be so sweeping in your statement.......
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Thought there was more than that TBF, but either way the board at West Ham said they were letting him go because they were 'disappointed' with the use of transfer funds post- Ferdinand.
There was also a suggestion at the time (not sure how true) that the club were being checked out by the authorities and it was decided it was best for all parties if 'arry moved on.
The use of the same agent for most deals came to light about 18 months later.
Harry says he was sacked because of comments he made in a fanzine interview.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Thought there was more than that TBF, but either way the board at West Ham said they were letting him go because they were 'disappointed' with the use of transfer funds post- Ferdinand.
There was also a suggestion at the time (not sure how true) that the club were being checked out by the authorities and it was decided it was best for all parties if 'arry moved on.
The use of the same agent for most deals came to light about 18 months later.
Harry says he was sacked because of comments he made in a fanzine interview.
Get on the blower to O'Nei......
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
Nope, humourless, that's me !
I think you are saying all footballers are as thick as pig shit ?
I don't think you can be so sweeping in your statement.......
Maybe if I was being flippant I might be allowed?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 27, 2010, 03:04:28 PM
............ of course, i'm 'flippancy positive' !
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 03:10:09 PM
Anyway, the vast majority of them are as thick as Shaggy's sandwich.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: VillaZogmariner on July 28, 2010, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Anyway, the vast majority of them are as thick as Shaggy's sandwich.
Your posts? ;)
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 09:28:23 AM
Let's have some more Silent Service from you.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: garyfouroaks on July 28, 2010, 09:29:56 AM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Whatever Milner goes for, if he does, Young is worth more in my opinion.
This is a shameless, and rare, ITK, observation. I was chatting to a veteran Ex England player who has done some work with both Milner and Young.He commented that Milner was incessantly asking him about his International career, seeking tips and advice, and was hugley knowledgeable about the history and mechanics of the game, but wanted to know more.Young by contrast seemed to have his headphones on all the time and ws interested in nothing other than himself.
I was also at a dinner where I sat next to somone who has been "involved" with Youngs career from the start . His opinion was that Young had maxed out at Villa, which was as good as it was going to get for him and that he simply did not have the determination, application and ambition to go further - unlike Milner.
Having watched nearly all of their home games for us , and a good few aways, I rate Milner far higher than Young.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: peter w on July 28, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "John M"
Something of a mis-conception when you take into account Spurs played more long balls than any other PL side last season.
If you asked 100 neutrals who played the better football last season, us or Tottenham, how many do you think would choose us?
Serious question.
Ask 100 Villa fans and you'd probably get the same answer.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 28, 2010, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: "garyfouroaks"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Whatever Milner goes for, if he does, Young is worth more in my opinion.
This is a shameless, and rare, ITK, observation. I was chatting to a veteran Ex England player who has done some work with both Milner and Young.He commented that Milner was incessantly asking him about his International career, seeking tips and advice, and was hugley knowledgeable about the history and mechanics of the game, but wanted to know more.Young by contrast seemed to have his headphones on all the time and ws interested in nothing other than himself.
I was also at a dinner where I sat next to somone who has been "involved" with Youngs career from the start . His opinion was that Young had maxed out at Villa, which was as good as it was going to get for him and that he simply did not have the determination, application and ambition to go further - unlike Milner.
Having watched nearly all of their home games for us , and a good few aways, I rate Milner far higher than Young.
I think Young's much more naturally talented than Milner, and can't believe that we haven't had more interest in him. I think he'd be a lot harder to replace than Milner to be honest.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: "garyfouroaks"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Whatever Milner goes for, if he does, Young is worth more in my opinion.
This is a shameless, and rare, ITK, observation. I was chatting to a veteran Ex England player who has done some work with both Milner and Young.He commented that Milner was incessantly asking him about his International career, seeking tips and advice, and was hugley knowledgeable about the history and mechanics of the game, but wanted to know more.Young by contrast seemed to have his headphones on all the time and ws interested in nothing other than himself.
I was also at a dinner where I sat next to somone who has been "involved" with Youngs career from the start . His opinion was that Young had maxed out at Villa, which was as good as it was going to get for him and that he simply did not have the determination, application and ambition to go further - unlike Milner.
Having watched nearly all of their home games for us , and a good few aways, I rate Milner far higher than Young.
Well they're different types of player but I dont really need an inside scoop to tell me what my eyes can plainly see and Young is far more talented than Milner. Milner has other qualities though. I would still be more upset to see the back of Young, who can produce genuine moments of magic far more often than any other player we have.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: BannedUserIAT on July 28, 2010, 09:57:06 AM
Milner at his best is a very good footballer. And he gets close to this level on an awful lot of occassions.
Young at his best is simply epic. Sadly, he gets close to this level too rarely.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 28, 2010, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: "Risso"
I think Young's much more naturally talented than Milner, and can't believe that we haven't had more interest in him. I think he'd be a lot harder to replace than Milner to be honest.
I agree. It is much harder to find players of Ashley Young's ilk than James Milner's (and Milner is a very good player).
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: VillaZogmariner on July 28, 2010, 10:33:36 AM
Why have I got a feeling that our resident good luck charm is going to post a video in this thread...
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Why have I got a feeling that our resident good luck charm is going to post a video in this thread...
Eh?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Risso on July 28, 2010, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Why have I got a feeling that our resident good luck charm is going to post a video in this thread...
Eh?
Legion and his Everton goal posts.....
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: LeeB on July 28, 2010, 10:41:34 AM
You mean this?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 28, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: "LeeB"
You mean this?
You're not Legion. [angryface]
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 11:05:38 AM
I'll never get bored of watching Kilngon go from "Haha! I've rescued a point, have my shirt Villa fans! Just kiddin' LOL" to "Oh fuck, I've just been made to look like a right mug. Nil points!" in the space of a minute.
Sometimes, it's still a beautiful game.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: lardboy on July 28, 2010, 01:19:10 PM
I miss Laursen... *sad face*
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 01:24:13 PM
Yep. He dropped a right bollock for Klingon's second goal though.
The synchronised wings with Young after our 3rd made up for it though.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Guy M on July 28, 2010, 02:58:43 PM
Luke Young's playing of the ball and movement off it is a sight to behold. I vastly preferred him as LB to Warnock. If we can convince Woy to take Stephen and convince Luke that left-back is his spiritual home, I'd be very happy.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
I cant agree with that. Warnock is a better left back, comfortably. Luke did a fine job there though and I'd rather he stayed as cover for both full back positions.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: KevinGage on July 28, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
Redknapp at it again (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3072015/Harry-Redknapp-signs-Russian-donkey.html)
Kudos, I guess.
Odd story though. Dunno who looks worse, the maltreated donkey or 'arry.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: bertlambshank on July 28, 2010, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Redknapp at it again (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3072015/Harry-Redknapp-signs-Russian-donkey.html)
Kudos, I guess.
Odd story though. Dunno who looks worse, the maltreated donkey or 'arry.
I hope that donkey bites the twat.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: TheSandman on July 30, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Redknapp at it again and no he's not rehoming any more donkeys (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3074498/Harry-Redknapp-Spurs-are-playing-fair.html)
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HARRY REDKNAPP has hit back at claims Spurs are using 'dirty tricks' to lure Scott Parker from West Ham.
A bitter row is brewing between the two London rivals as Tottenham are ready to splash out up to £15million on the England midfielder.
The Hammers insist they have told Spurs that Parker, 29, is not for sale at any price.
But White Hart Lane boss Redknapp insisted: "We have done nothing wrong. Our chairman spoke to West Ham's chairman and asked if Scott is for sale.
"If he's been told that he isn't then that's the end of that. But as far as I'm concerned Tottenham have acted totally within the rules.
"Any club is perfectly entitled to make an inquiry about a player from another club.
"West Ham have been interested in Jamie O'Hara for some time and I don't have a problem with that."
Parker is keen on Champions League football and could increase his current £68,000-a-week wages by around £7k a week with Tottenham.
Redknapp added: "We get people ringing us up all the time asking about our players' availability - it's how the whole business works.
"This club has behaved correctly.
"We didn't go public on our interest in Scott, we approached West Ham through the proper channels.
"If our chairman wants to improve the offer that's up to him. But I like Scott, he's a good player."
Yes please! What a fantastic deal for Villa if this is even 10% true.
Are you joking? One decent though old forward, one talented but flakey winger and one distinctly average midfielder for our very best player? Doesn't sound like good business to me. Besides, it's a fictional rumour from last year which has been recycled to fill space this year.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: BannedUserIAT on July 30, 2010, 12:57:36 AM
Even IF true, its a fucking awful deal. Shit players.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: H00513R on July 30, 2010, 02:37:43 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "H00513R"
Spurs to offer Bentley, Jenas and Keane in swap deal for Villa star Young
Yes please! What a fantastic deal for Villa if this is even 10% true.
Are you joking? One decent though old forward, one talented but flakey winger and one distinctly average midfielder for our very best player? Doesn't sound like good business to me. Besides, it's a fictional rumour from last year which has been recycled to fill space this year.
3 players for 1 that was going to basically be let go? Yes, a definite good deal. Especially when Keane scored 23 goals in 50 appearances for Spurs/Celtic. Would probably be the main scoring threat on the team lol. But old rumor as you said...
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Monty on July 30, 2010, 02:43:05 AM
Going to basically be let go? Ash is going nowhere, he's our best player.
Still, think we will get Keane, and I do rate him. Joins with the midfield well and makes good runs into the box.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2010, 02:52:52 AM
Quote from: "H00513R"
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "H00513R"
Spurs to offer Bentley, Jenas and Keane in swap deal for Villa star Young
Yes please! What a fantastic deal for Villa if this is even 10% true.
Are you joking? One decent though old forward, one talented but flakey winger and one distinctly average midfielder for our very best player? Doesn't sound like good business to me. Besides, it's a fictional rumour from last year which has been recycled to fill space this year.
3 players for 1 that was going to basically be let go? Yes, a definite good deal. Especially when Keane scored 23 goals in 50 appearances for Spurs/Celtic. Would probably be the main scoring threat on the team lol. But old rumor as you said...
Wrong Young. Ashley, not Luke.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2010, 04:36:37 AM
Ha! This story was on a Spurs "ITK" forum on the 27th! Why is Nursey being paid to read and copy the internet?
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Monty on July 30, 2010, 04:41:49 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
Ha! This story was on a Spurs "ITK" forum on the 27th! Why is Nursey being paid to read and copy the internet?
You'd think, if they wanted to copy an ITK, they'd keep an eye on MM over on VT. He has certainly got a much better record than bloody Nursey.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: willywombat on July 30, 2010, 04:46:43 AM
The sickest part of the whole thing imo is the fact that Scott Parker is earning 68k a week. 68,000 pounds a week for a no-more than decent premiership midfielder for fuck sake. Sorry, I know that's not what the thread is about but it's beyond ridiculous
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Eigentor on July 30, 2010, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: "willywombat"
The sickest part of the whole thing imo is the fact that Scott Parker is earning 68k a week. 68,000 pounds a week for a no-more than decent premiership midfielder for fuck sake. Sorry, I know that's not what the thread is about but it's beyond ridiculous
Well, perfect for a scenario where we sign him; he plays well the first three months; is distinctly average the following three months; is subsequently frozen out of the first team but still picks up £70-80k for the remainder of his contract, then.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: andrew08 on July 30, 2010, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: "H00513R"
Spurs to offer Bentley, Jenas and Keane in swap deal for Villa star Young
Yes please! What a fantastic deal for Villa if this is even 10% true.
Had the misfortune to listen to talksport this morning about this. According to Brazil and some journo from down sarf with Villa pushing for 10th/ 8th spot (as usual apparently) and spuds now at a different level (6 points better I believe) this would be a good deal for us.
Back to Radio 2 after that, I was only chasing sports headlines.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: JD on July 31, 2010, 07:23:52 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "H00513R"
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "H00513R"
Spurs to offer Bentley, Jenas and Keane in swap deal for Villa star Young
Yes please! What a fantastic deal for Villa if this is even 10% true.
Are you joking? One decent though old forward, one talented but flakey winger and one distinctly average midfielder for our very best player? Doesn't sound like good business to me. Besides, it's a fictional rumour from last year which has been recycled to fill space this year.
3 players for 1 that was going to basically be let go? Yes, a definite good deal. Especially when Keane scored 23 goals in 50 appearances for Spurs/Celtic. Would probably be the main scoring threat on the team lol. But old rumor as you said...
Wrong Young. Ashley, not Luke.
Brilliant (smiley thing). I'd think it was a great deal for Luke as well.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Slaphead on July 31, 2010, 09:20:08 AM
Young has been poor for the last 18 months, never got a sniff of getting in the England team either. The guy has been found out, just get defenders to double up on him and the game is over for Ash.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Clampy on July 31, 2010, 10:44:54 AM
I like the way Redknapp says he's done nothing wrong in putting in a bid for Parker, then admits he wants Craig Bellamy.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Monty on July 31, 2010, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: "clampy"
I like the way Redknapp says he's done nothing wrong in putting in a bid for Parker, then admits he wants Craig Bellamy.
Spurs, West Ham and Man City. What a horrible little triangle that it.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
The fawning over 'Arry in the latest Sky Sports mag is sickening.
The photos used are cringe-worthy in the extreme
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: MattW on July 31, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
He's onto something here (BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8873561.stm)):
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Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has lambasted the timing of England's forthcoming friendly against Hungary.
The national side's first game after a disappointing World Cup campaign is on 11 August at Wembley, three days before the start of the Premier League season.
And Redknapp fumed: "Can someone tell me why you have an international game the same week the season is starting?
"They've just been away together to the World Cup. They're probably sick of the sight of each other."
Redknapp also criticised his own club for organising a pre-season schedule that he feels could be detrimental to their chances of qualifying for the Champions League group stages.
Tottenham played three games in eight days on a tour of the United States before returning to take on Villarreal at White Hart Lane on Thursday - a game they lost 4-1.
A trip to Portugal to play Benfica and a home game against Fiorentina follow.
"It's been busy schlepping around the place," said Redknapp. "We've just come back from a gruelling trip around America.
"It's crazy. And we pile more games in. The last thing we need is to be playing games.
"We need to train. I need to get the players on the training pitch because all we do is play and recover. We should be working in training.
"Too many games have been scheduled. I don't know whose fault that is. We play too many games.
"We play Fiorentina on the Saturday [7 August], which is a nuisance, then they go off and play for their countries," he added.
"They're going to have an international week before the first week of the season, before we play Manchester City and then a European qualifier.
"I won't see them from Saturday night until Friday before we play Man City [on 14 August], not once.
"Why? What's the point of it? A meaningless friendly. The week before the season, when we should be training, working, getting organised for the first game, they won't be here.
"How can that be a way to prepare for the start of the season? Then you've got your fingers crossed that not too many come back injured."
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: BannedUserIAT on July 31, 2010, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Young has been poor for the last 18 months, never got a sniff of getting in the England team either. The guy has been found out, just get defenders to double up on him and the game is over for Ash.
But surely this is where quality coaching comes into play. Ash Young getting double teamed means there's an extra player free somewhere. Off-the ball movement should dictate that this player is free to recieve the ball and make a menace of himself. The trouble is that Young gets the ball and the only people moving are the strikers in the box. Well, one of them anyway. Gabby tends to just lollop about.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Slaphead on July 31, 2010, 02:53:40 PM
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Seriously? I'd say they players should have the nouce to know how and when to move off the ball. If the players are waiting for the command of the manager to move into space then no wonder MON does not have time to sign any players.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: old man villa fan on July 31, 2010, 04:13:50 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
I think it is peoples expectations clouding their view on actual achievements.
Some people seem happier to pick fault with players weaknesses rather than praise their strengths.
Not saying that we shouldn't criticise but the extent should be relative.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 31, 2010, 04:15:33 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Imagine how many more assists he'd have if he didn't try to beat the defender for the fourth time in a row and put a ball in earlier? Millionz.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: old man villa fan on July 31, 2010, 04:24:13 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Imagine how many more assists he'd have if he didn't try to beat the defender for the fourth time in a row and put a ball in earlier? Millionz.
Take your point but how many players did we have in the box after he had beaten the player the first time.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
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Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Imagine how many more assists he'd have if he didn't try to beat the defender for the fourth time in a row and put a ball in earlier? Millionz.
Or perhaps he isn't putting the ball in earlier as he's waiting for players to get into the box.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Clampy on July 31, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
I think it's his free kicks that he needs to work on. Most of them were woeful last season.
His crossing is getting better, although sometimes when he's in a position to knock the ball across the face of the goal, he ends up crossing it over eveyones head. It's something he needs to work on, but without doubt, he set up a lot of our goals last season.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Slaphead on July 31, 2010, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Imagine how many more assists he'd have if he didn't try to beat the defender for the fourth time in a row and put a ball in earlier? Millionz.
Or perhaps he isn't putting the ball in earlier as he's waiting for players to get into the box.
Maybe noone is bothering to get in the box because they know it is unlikley he will beat his man.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Maybe noone is bothering to get in the box because they know it is unlikley he will beat his man.
I don't think they would be in the team for long if they took that attitude.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: ozzjim on July 31, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
Gabby survives by moving in the box for a cross once every 90 minutes Dante so they have proved to stay in the team perfectly well.
Title: Redknapp at it again
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Slaphead"
Yes quality coaching, another manager might be able to sort this issue out and make it work to our advantage. Instead we just have Ash getting robbed of the ball all the time and falling over.
Only 5 players had more assists in the PL than Ashley last season.
Imagine how many more assists he'd have if he didn't try to beat the defender for the fourth time in a row and put a ball in earlier? Millionz.
Or perhaps he isn't putting the ball in earlier as he's waiting for players to get into the box.
That's a valid point, actually.
One of the things I really don't want to be seeing again if at all possible is the wingers breaking forward and Heskey lumbering up the pitch at the speed of a glacier.
I also think sometimes Gabby could do with a rocket up the arse in terms of making himself availabe / running into space, and he's not the only one.