Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: evalast1910 on July 19, 2010, 05:24:12 PM
-
Nicked from another site.
This was on a FOL and the PFC fans site. Thought some may find it of interest.
Dear Mr Gold and Mr Sullivan,
I refer to your letter to me on the 19th May when you laid out your ten point plan for the future of the club I have supported since I was 5 years old, and one where for the past 11 seasons I have had a season ticket. At the time, with the season just about to end I decided not to believe your “story” and decline to renew my season tickets.
I put up with almost weekly emails encouraging me to renew my seat despite asking to be removed from your mailing list. Did you comply with my request in accordance with the Data Protection Act? No – you simply sent me twice as many. You emailed me at 3.30pm on Wednesday 23rd June telling me that Scottie Parker was “committed” and why hadn’t I. I remember it exactly at that time as it was slap bang in the middle of me watching England’s game versus Slovenia.
So now with the season ticket deadline passed there are hints that Parker may indeed be sold to finance more overseas “stars” such as Mokoena, Piquionne or Barrera – hang on did you not say in point 4 that you would “clear the debt?” How exactly are you going to do that by bringing in such journeymen? But I know your answer…
Today I decided to buy my tickets for the first games of the season. As a member I get to buy my tickets at a “members” discount before the general public. So I went online, added 1 x Adult seat and 1 x child seat for 10 year old Lolly. To say that I spilt my tea when it came to the “check out” was an understatement. £81 for two tickets…and that is the cheapest tickets in the house. £51 for me, £28 for a 10 year old and then you have the cheek to add £2 for an Admin fee – what exactly is that for? Are you not ripping me off enough? Should I wish to sit in one of the more “expensive” seats I would be paying £69 and £37 respectively. £37 for a child. What planet do you live on? How exactly is it “making it enjoyable to come and watch?” or even point 5 - “member benefits will be improved”
I travel each week to and from Copenhagen – a wonderful city and recently named as one of the top 5 expensive cities in the world to live in. Do you know what I can buy for £37 for my daughter there? Well how about a ticket to the cinema, entrance to Tivoli Gardens theme park, lunch or even a flight to get there in the first place. How can you justify charging £37 for a child’s ticket? And nearly £70 for an adults ticket – you do know that is more than a ticket for the Champions League Final, the Europa League Final and even two categories of seats at the World Cup in South Africa. So I could have got a seat for Portugal v Brazil in the World Cup finals for 20% less than a ticket for West Ham v Chelsea.
Can I ask a simple question? Do you feel that these prices give value for money, or are you simply doing this to reduce the debt? I wouldn’t mind if you came out and said “we need to clear the debt so we have to charge you and arm and a leg” but instead you try and justify it with marketing blurb. I realised last season that despite being a West Ham fan, I actually have a choice. I do not have to pay these ridiculous sums anymore. I have taken the £189 I would have paid for tickets for the three games and bought a season ticket to Lewes FC in the Blue Square South, which includes a FREE child’s ticket and then given the remaining £50 to my wife to spend on a new handbag.
The next generation of football fans are the likes of my 10 year old and you are driving them away from the club with your pricing policy. There will be no one to fill that void in years to come and that is because of the decisions you are making today. But then again, I expect fans like me to be around long after you have moved on to your next project.
I am sure you don’t actually care that you have lost two more fans. I do not spend money in the stadium on the average overpriced fayre you serve up. I do not buy the propaganda match day programme and I do not buy toasters that print WHU on my bread so in that respect I am not your ideal fan. But I am a true fan and you simply cannot see that, mores the pity.
One day you will see the light.
The Ball is Round
Some very good points.
-
Some good points - and I always thinks it very dodgy with clubs using players to prove their loyalty - player loyalty there is a blast from a long time past
-
I don't know why they don't just get some of their 'glamour' models involved in the marketing and cut out the pretence altogether.
-
Toasters that print words, thats brilliant that is
-
Toasters that print words, thats brilliant that is
Yeah, that made me chuckle a bit.
Hypothetically, using this marketing strategy, I wonder how much of a jump season ticket sales would make, if at all, if Milner was definitely here next season? Wouldn't really make any difference to me, it's in the blood, unless we sold all the decent players from our squad and didn't get quality replacements.
-
The next generation of football fans are the likes of my 10 year old and you are driving them away from the club with your pricing policy. There will be no one to fill that void in years to come and that is because of the decisions you are making today.
This.
And our club, despite the fact that we are amongst the most reasonable, should take note as well.
They won't of course.
-
Agree completely, I've spoken to a few people recently, fans of different clubs who are fed up and choosing to spend their hard-earned elsewhere.
-
Great letter
-
Just a pity they can't read, really.
-
I'll be taking my daughter to watch AFC Ramsey this season. It's a poor standard of football, but it costs next to nowt, and she'll enjoy herself anyway.
-
I have never really like West Ham, always one of those clubs that I would like to see suffer. So when the Clowns went there I rejoiced. But now, I have nothing but sympathy for those poor East End barrow boys!
-
Agree completely, I've spoken to a few people recently, fans of different clubs who are fed up and choosing to spend their hard-earned elsewhere.
People are wise to the tactics now, like speaking of big signings just sell season tickets etc..
Fans have been let down too man times and in this current economic climate have too little spare cash to be spending silly money on season tickets anymore.
If that drop in supporters brings some normality back to the game (f**king Man City apart) then in the long term the game will be better off.
-
Toasters that print words, thats brilliant that is
I want one. Not one that prints WHU though, obviously.
-
If you've had took away all the references to West Ham out of that letter, i probably would have guessed who it was sent to.
-
Where I live, I am surrounded by about a dozen West Ham season ticket holders and although they have all renewed their tickets for the coming season, they are all still getting e-mails practically everyday from the club asking for them to renew their season tickets they have already bought.
The club cannot get half their names right on these e-mails and Jevin and Tresa ( Kevin and Teresa) I kid you not are absolutely fed up of the porno twins and their markting campaigns.
West Ham are heading for troubled waters with that circus in town now.
UTV
The Doc
-
81 quid for 2 tickets for West Ham's first game of the season???
Outrageous!!
I hope he means West Ham's first home game of the season
-
here it is:
(http://www.r4ids.co.uk/images/West-Ham-Box-450w.jpg)
-
Has Sendo seen this thread yet?
-
Did West ham steal a job lot of toasters from the national History Museum and then just turn the heating elements round?
-
Did West ham steal a job lot of toasters from the national History Museum and then just turn the heating elements round?
I had to look at the picture in a measure of disbelief, then mentally rotate it, but yes, by jove, that actually does work.
Nicely done.
-
I have had a shit day at work, can you tell!
-
here it is:
(http://www.r4ids.co.uk/images/West-Ham-Box-450w.jpg)
So basically it leaves large parts of your toast uncooked?
Great.
-
Can't wait to see the Pop Tart Porno pop-up.
-
here it is:
(http://www.r4ids.co.uk/images/West-Ham-Box-450w.jpg)
So basically it leaves large parts of your toast uncooked?
Great.
And you need to pratically burn the bread to make it come out like in that picture.
-
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5044/toasterq.jpg)
-
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5044/toasterq.jpg)
I wondered how long before........Superb Maz.
-
Great letter, and yes, our club should also take note.
-
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5044/toasterq.jpg)
Brilliant, if you could print that on a T shirt and sell them outside the Holte End you will make a *ucking fortune.
-
Agree completely, I've spoken to a few people recently, fans of different clubs who are fed up and choosing to spend their hard-earned elsewhere.
I think away from the usual high profile games this coming season, we are going to be seeing a lot of empty seats at a lot of grounds for run of the mill games where one will watch over-hyped footballers playing a very poor standard of kick and rush. And I don't just mean Villa Park (winkey thing!). I'm certainly going to be scrutinising the worth of going to any games much more carefully this season as my disenchantment with the whole sordid and sorry state that is modern day football takes hold....
-
Depressingly spot on Richard.
-
81 quid for 2 tickets for West Ham's first game of the season???
Outrageous!!
I hope he means West Ham's first home game of the season
Yeah, ours are just £30 something.......perfectly reasonable :-
-
Watching football is terrible value for money now.
-
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5044/toasterq.jpg)
Brilliant, if you could print that on a T shirt and sell them outside the Holte End you will make a *ucking fortune.
You could make even more if you could also make the t-shirts edible so that you could eat your imprinted edible shirt while it plays a podcast of Amy Winehouse slirring "Life's a bowl of cherries, marmalade and jam, I'm forever eating toasty shirts, toasty shirts for Wet Spam"