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Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: john e on July 19, 2010, 11:17:21 AM
Who will be the Best and Worst and most improved players etc in the coming season ?,
 Remember anything you say can be used as evidence against you at any time as the season unfolds

Best -
Ashley Young,
 i think he's a top quality player who will have a really big season, he went of the boil a bit last time out, but will be smarting over the world cup omision, and will be up for it this time around.
his delivery is the key, as he takes most free kicks corners and plenty of crosses,
he'l be are best player next season, new transfers aside

Average -
Agbonlahor,
 another average season for him, pitching in with about a dozen goals again,
 and flattering to decieve as usual,
 as H+V posters keep banging on with how young he is and still plenty of room for improvement he heads for his mid 20's

Scapegoat-
Stuart Downing
not a big fan, was not good enough when we signed him, did nothing to prove any different last season, will be the same next.
Villa fans will be tearing there hair out with MON wanting him dropped by the end of the season,
 of coarse MON wont as he payed loads for him and he's one of his special can do no wrong boys
next seasons Heskey

most improved-
dont know but hopefully will be Downing or Gabby, just to prove me wrong, which i honestly wont mind
Title: Re: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Concrete John on July 19, 2010, 11:22:05 AM
Best - I wouldn't argue with Ash.

Worst - don't like to pick one, but I can see either Collins or Warnock dropping off a little and getting some shit from the fans.

Most improved - Downing.

Scapegoat - whoever Martin plays at rightback.
Title: Re: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2010, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: "john e"

Scapegoat-
Stuart Downing
not a big fan, was not good enough when we signed him, did nothing to prove any different last season, will be the same next.
Villa fans will be tearing there hair out with MON wanting him dropped by the end of the season,
 of coarse MON wont as he payed loads for him and he's one of his special can do no wrong boys
next seasons Heskey


That to me doesn't look like the definition of a scapegoat.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Reuben on July 19, 2010, 11:23:59 AM
Most improved - would like to see Delph get a run in at the later part of the season, but more likely we will see Carlos do wonders at centre back.
I would like to think MON will improve and not play players when injured.

I think Robbie Keane will be next seasons Richard Dunne

I think more people will moan at Petrov next year.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: placeforparks on July 19, 2010, 11:28:19 AM
Quote from: "Reuben"

I think more people will moan at Petrov next year.


because we could all see he was knackered and ineffectual after 60 minutes towards the end of last season.

he won't have got any younger over the summer.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2010, 11:30:11 AM
Will surprise a few - Downing, after a full pre-season, we'll see the real player.

Will struggle - Petrov. Age starting to catch up with him

Could be big - Delph, Delfouneso - but they're going to need to actually get more time on the pitch. Hopefully a UEFA run will help here.

Key season - Gabby. Needs to show he can be more than a 15 a season man. Also a big season with the flux in the England team and the chance to stake a claim there.
Title: best and wost
Post by: darren woolley on July 19, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
I would agree with john e.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 19, 2010, 11:45:07 AM
Is it too much to hope that Curtis Davies and/or NRC could fully realise their potential ?
 With both when we signed them the same comment was made either in the media or in the case of Davies, by West Brom fans I know.
"You have just signed a potential future England captain"
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 19, 2010, 11:47:02 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Will surprise a few - Downing, after a full pre-season, we'll see the real player.

Will struggle - Petrov. Age starting to catch up with him

Could be big - Delph, Delfouneso - but they're going to need to actually get more time on the pitch. Hopefully a UEFA run will help here.

Key season - Gabby. Needs to show he can be more than a 15 a season man. Also a big season with the flux in the England team and the chance to stake a claim there.


Pretty much agree with that to be honest, dependant on who we may or may not sign. I do also hope that Friedel won't be over the hill by this season.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2010, 11:58:28 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Will surprise a few - Downing, after a full pre-season, we'll see the real player.



That's been repeated often enough to almost make it the H&V Godwin's Law number 2.

I'm sceptical myself.   He played over 30 games last season, so why would a few half arsed friendlies prepare him any better than the first half a dozen league games of last season?  Given how many of the youngsters played in the friendlies last season, I'm not sure how much effect the pre-season will have on Downing.  We'll see though.
Title: Re: best and wost
Post by: john e on July 19, 2010, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: "darren woolley"
I would agree with john e.



you are a fine fellow Darren
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
He'll be more settled at the club, he'll be further "over" his injury, and he'll have had the benefit of Martin's tactical tuition over the summer.

Fact is, we're going to have to give him the benefit of the doubt, really. Unless we look to move on a 10m player after half a season, which seems a bit daft.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 19, 2010, 12:08:03 PM
I'll give Downing a chance, as far as I'm concerned it's a fresh start for him.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Greg N'Ash on July 19, 2010, 12:12:04 PM
most improved: cuellar is moved to the centre . well i can dream....

average: young. seems to have been found out somewhat and needs to raise his game.

scapegoat. our new striker, or petrov.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 19, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Best - Ashley Young, Cuellar (if played at centre-back), Milner (I can hope!)

High hopes (only to be dashed) - Carew, hopefully can play consistently well for a season, or at least two thirds. We look a much better team when he plays well. Delph, when he eventually comes back.

Struggle - Petrov, the right-back who isn't a right-back (so, potentially Cuellar), Downing

Should be taken out and shot - Heskey
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on July 19, 2010, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
I'll give Downing a chance, as far as I'm concerned it's a fresh start for him.


Bar Heskey, they should all be given a chance.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: TaxDodger on July 19, 2010, 12:22:05 PM
Best - Delfouneso. It's a really big season for him, at 19/20 he needs to start featuring more for the first team. I think he'll make a big impact if he does get the chance, he seems to have both the talent and the attitude. We might not need Keane after all.

Average - Petrov. More of the same from Stan I imagine. Which means he'll continue to divide opinion amongst Villa fans.

Scapegoat - Heskey. If Delfouneso breaks through and we sign Keane we might not see too much of Emile next season. However if either one of these possibilities don't occur then he'll continue to recieve his 20 minute cameos which will no doubt be met by moans and howls of frustration from the Holte.

Most Improved - Downing. I'm confident he's going to have a really good season. I seem to remember Milner got a lot of stick on here for his performences the season before last.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: supertom on July 19, 2010, 01:24:52 PM
Best- Young- Hope he's given more license to drift, and I hope we start to expand our play a bit, and keep the ball on deck more. It's a key season for Ash. Will he be a great, or will he be an also ran. I'm guessing the former.

Average- Petrov. Hate saying it, but I think the legs are going. He's still skipper so I think O Neill will keep him in. But we lose grip of so many games after 60 minutes when Stan tires. It's also gonna get worse with every passing year. Still a classy player, but we should at this stage, be using him sparingly.

Scapegoat- Downing. I think he'll need to absolutely hit the ground running next season and not shirk any challenges. He needs more bottle. He's got himself on the wrong side of the fans. Somewhat harshly it must be said, given he had no pre season and was brought back far sooner than expected. I hope he turns it round, but a few bad games, and he'll get mullered on here.

Most improved- Fonzie. Key year. I want to see more of him, and I think he'll flourish.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 19, 2010, 02:05:06 PM
Agree that we may see the best return for Ashley Young

Have high hopes if Milner goes to see a lot more of Albrighton as i really think he can make it

Delph - would love him to turn into the player i hope he is

Heskey - if not sold then i feel it could become embarrassing how our own fans will turn on him - he really should be let go for all concerned
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: mshurst on July 19, 2010, 03:07:01 PM
Personally, I think Delphonso can make a really good impression this season. I can see him being used mainly for cup games, but I reckon he'll shine.

But, overall season-wise, I think Ash Young.

If Gabby gets some new boots and can hit the net a few times then I think there's a chance he can shine for us too.

I'm also expecting Downing to do something special this year. As others have said, I don't think he had much of a chance last year as he was injured throughout the summer. A full pre-season training regime with MON will soon see him making a difference.


And, if it happens, I think Robbie Keane can re ignite all positive words about him.
Title: Re: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: TheSandman on July 19, 2010, 04:37:40 PM
Best: Ashley Young- Enough said

Worst: Either Petrov or Warnock.

Scapegoat: If he doesn't go back to centre back Cuellar. Either that or Warnock.

Most Improved: Downing and for his own sake he has to be.

Please note these judgments are subject to change based on signings we make and failure to offload certain players in particular a certain defensive striker who shall remain nameless.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: hipkiss92 on July 19, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
Best - Agbonlahor - finally hits 20 goals, playing by himself in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation supported by downining and young

Worst - Carew, love him as I do, he is getting older and has looked uninterested/not very good against league teams, will be dropped by the end of october

Scapegoat - The coaching staff - 'not being trained properly'

Most Improved - Barry Bannan
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: curiousorange on July 19, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
Best: Agbonlahor - has used every pre-season since breaking into the first team to improve aspects to his game and the only benefit will be Villa's goals for tally.

Average: Ash - really want him to do well as he makes the team tick but he seems to have picked up some bad habits over the past 1 1/2 seasons that are of detriment to his game. Also, we've been lucky with Ash and injuries and I have a bad feeling this season that someone will clog him just before a key period.

Most improved: Downing - he's always been a great player and showed in patches last season what he can bring to the side. If he's settled in properly he can become a key man.

Will struggle: Carew - I love the big man, but a striker is imminent and I just don't think he'll put the work in to challenge for a spot.

Could be big: The Fonz - from all that I've seen and all that I've read, the hype is justified. Thirty seconds after coming on against Palace in the Cup he had their back line dropping logs as they scrabbled to contain him. Now that's a player.
Title: Player predictions for the new season
Post by: Chipsticks on July 19, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
Best -  Ashley Young. He'll improve next season and there seems to be a little bit less hype around him which I reckon will do him good as theres weight off his shoulders.

Worst -  Carew.   I think another season of even worse injury problems and niggles wil see him play second best to Heskey and he will score few goals.

Most Improved - Delfouneso. This will be the season (I hope) when he blossoms, and gets plenty of game time and scores a load of goals. fingers crossed. I also think Downing will get his arse in gear.

The annoying player who bugs just about everyone - Warnock. He will prove inconsistent and will falter in big games, I think the odd mistake from him will punish us in vital games, and I think we need to improve from him. But then again, at least he's English, eh MON?
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