Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 12:44:34 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 12:44:34 PM
v. Basingstoke Sunday 18.7.10
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 12:46:14 PM
From Pravda (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/FootballNewsDetail/0,,10265~2094181,00.html)
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New season, new kit, new hopes.
While Villa's stars will no doubt look the part when they pull on the brand-new FxPro kit against Basingstoke and Peterborough, the early pre-season assignments are all about making sure they are well fashioned for the serious business of the Barclays Premier League.
The hard work has begun on the training pitch but the trips to The Camrose and London Road, on Sunday and Monday, provide early opportunities to see how Martin O'Neill's men are shaping up, as they embark on a varied pre-season programme.
Villa face a diverse mix of opponents over the next month, beginning with the Blue Square South outfit on Sunday [ko 2pm] and League One Posh the following evening [ko 7.45pm].
The gulf in leagues does not matter at this stage. As goalkeeper Brad Friedel explains, it is all about getting mind and body prepared ahead of the big kick off on August 14.
"As you are going through pre-season you are obviously going to have varying degrees of opponents in front of you," he said.
"That doesn't matter where you are - whether you play your games here or whether you go abroad.
"The most important thing is that you get your fitness right, you get your timing right and that you start playing with each other again.
"After you get the first couple of weeks under your belt and your legs start coming back, then you can start progressing your fitness on to the next level and get ready for August 14."
The Basingstoke clash brings Villa up against O'Neill's former Nottingham Forest team-mate Frank Gray - whom he lined up alongside in the 1980 European Cup final.
Peterborough, under new boss Gary Johnson, have already produced one admirable pre-season performance against Premier League opposition, when they were edged out 2-1 by West Ham last week.
Both games form an important part of Villa's plans, as they look to hit the ground running when the top-flight season begins.
"First of all, I think the most important thing is the kick-off itself," O'Neill said.
"It is how you are prepared. Last year, for instance, we thought we had prepared very well indeed.
"We won the Peace Cup, albeit with a group of young players in the side. Some players like Gabby Agbonlahor and James Milner hadn't participated in the pre-season, simply because of they had played in the England under-21 competition so they had time off.
"The long and the short of it - we lost 2-0 against Wigan. So you are never sure about whether you preparation is right.
"Here not only do we have the start of the season, we have these important qualification games in the Europa League and we want to try and be as fit as possible."
Around 12 months ago, Villa kicked off an exciting pre-season campaign with a 3-0 victory at Peterborough.
Andreas Weimann, the man who opened the scoring that day, will be unavailable to take on Posh this time around.
The Austrian and fellow youngsters Nathan Delfouneso and Nathan Baker miss out on the trips to Hampshire and Cambridgeshire because of international commitments.
The trio are set to kick off their Euro U19 Championship campaigns in France on Sunday, with Delfouneso and Baker named in the England squad to face Weimann's Austria.
The early pre-season fixtures also come too soon for World Cup stars James Milner, Emile Heskey, Stephen Warnock and Brad Guzan, who were given extra time to recover after their involvement in the summer showpiece.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2010, 12:53:38 PM
what time does this kick off?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2010, 12:53:56 PM
never mind read it in full now!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2010, 01:32:55 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 18, 2010, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
We are playing no forwards... against Basingstoke?
Collins is a forward isn't he?
Yes, but he's on the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 18, 2010, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
We are playing no forwards... against Basingstoke?
Collins is a forward isn't he?
Yes, but he's on the bench.
Oh yeah.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 18, 2010, 02:51:30 PM
We always seem to have at least one shit result in pre-season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 18, 2010, 02:54:34 PM
HT: 2-0. Frustrating so far. Lots of possession and some decent half chances. But credit to the hosts who made the most of their chances DH
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 18, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
Bloody hell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2010, 02:59:07 PM
Surprised there's no Carew or Gabby in the squad. Mind you, there's plenty of pre-season playing time left i suppose.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 18, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: "clampy"
Surprised there's no Carew or Gabby in the squad. Mind you, there's plenty of pre-season playing time left i suppose.
We've got a game tomorrow, they'll be playing in that one I'd imagine.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simba on July 18, 2010, 03:45:14 PM
just jumped on. Are you telling me we are losing 2-0 to Basingstoke? With our Elite squad?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 18, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
90+2. 2-1. Youngster Graham Burke scores for Villa in stoppage time, firing across keeper from close range [DH]
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2010, 03:53:26 PM
Looks like finishing 2-1. Graham Burke scoring in stoppage time for us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: atomicjam on July 18, 2010, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: "Simba"
just jumped on. Are you telling me we are losing 2-0 to Basingstoke? With our Elite squad?
Its not that bad, we are losing 2-1 (Graham Burke on 90th minute)...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simba on July 18, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: "atomicjam"
Quote from: "Simba"
just jumped on. Are you telling me we are losing 2-0 to Basingstoke? With our Elite squad?
Its not that bad, we are losing 2-1 (Graham Burke on 90th minute)...
It's Basingstoke..... Thought we had a great youth system etc. Impressive reserve team etc etc. Professionals. All trying to prove themselves as worthy. Sorry "It's not that bad"? Yes it is that bad. In fact it is very worrying.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 18, 2010, 04:03:44 PM
Never heard of Graham Burke... is he any good?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 18, 2010, 04:08:40 PM
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simba on July 18, 2010, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
see your point but.... surely our lads would have also been " busting a gut" to prove themselves.
Ok I will relax, and see it in context but imagine- and I am sure you have played the game as most of us have- the dressing rooms at half and full time. Someone with a responsibility to AV will be sleepless tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2010, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: "Simba"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
see your point but.... surely our lads would have also been " busting a gut" to prove themselves.
Ok I will relax, and see it in context but imagine- and I am sure you have played the game as most of us have- the dressing rooms at half and full time. Someone with a responsibility to AV will be sleepless tonight.
A bit melodramatic Simba. It was only a freindly.
Title: basingstoke friendly
Post by: darren woolley on July 18, 2010, 04:34:14 PM
I agree with dave there is nothing to worry about it is our first pre season game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simba on July 18, 2010, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: "clampy"
Quote from: "Simba"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
see your point but.... surely our lads would have also been " busting a gut" to prove themselves.
Ok I will relax, and see it in context but imagine- and I am sure you have played the game as most of us have- the dressing rooms at half and full time. Someone with a responsibility to AV will be sleepless tonight.
A bit melodramatic Simba. It was only a freindly.
As I said, Clampy I will take it as exactly that. A friendly.
Melodramatic? Did it sound that way? Well, all I am trying to say is that we are, after all, a pro club and friendly or not, against motivated players or not, we should have the players and the coaches to beat a team like Basingstoke. At as canter as they say.
This result is not important. In that I suppose you are right. What is important is that we have depth because we sure as hell cannot compete in the transfer market. These kids have been carefully selected from a very large pool. This should have been a big win for them. At the risk of repetition they must have been slated by our coaches and Basingstoke players will dine out on this for years.
However, what you say is true- no sense in falling on a sword for a friendly. I will submit that. Still worries me though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 05:00:43 PM
v. Peterborough United (A) 19.7.10 7:45pm K-O
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 18, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
Just back, a relatively meaningless workout in the sun to be honest. 2-1 the final score, we dominated but had no one up front to put the ball in the net. The pressure on their goal increased towards the end and we could have had 3 or 4 in the last ten minutes, instead of just the one we did get. No one stood out significantly, though Shorey had a useful second half and was instrumental in most of our best moves. Our big centre forward - forgotten his name - certainly made an impression when he came on too in the second half and gave us much more of a focal point. Davies was pretty composed at the back and played the full 90 minutes. Good turn out from the Villa fans, plenty all around the ground and even some singing! When Carlos went off and walked around the ground, it took him about 20 minutes to get to the changing rooms for signing autographs and having his photo taken! The kit looks just ok in the flesh, I can't abide claret socks and the top looks alright.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 18, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: "Simba"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
see your point but.... surely our lads would have also been " busting a gut" to prove themselves.
Ok I will relax, and see it in context but imagine- and I am sure you have played the game as most of us have- the dressing rooms at half and full time. Someone with a responsibility to AV will be sleepless tonight.
Don't over-react, it was just a training match in the sun to be honest, lots of tippy tappy football and no one busting a gut in the slightest. We could have had 5 or 6 if we had wanted to turn up the tempo, and very nearly did as it was playing half cock...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: davevillan on July 18, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Quote from: "Simba"
Quote from: "clampy"
Quote from: "Simba"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
First game, against a team busting a gut to beat us. Nothing to worry about.
see your point but.... surely our lads would have also been " busting a gut" to prove themselves.
Ok I will relax, and see it in context but imagine- and I am sure you have played the game as most of us have- the dressing rooms at half and full time. Someone with a responsibility to AV will be sleepless tonight.
A bit melodramatic Simba. It was only a freindly.
As I said, Clampy I will take it as exactly that. A friendly.
Melodramatic? Did it sound that way? Well, all I am trying to say is that we are, after all, a pro club and friendly or not, against motivated players or not, we should have the players and the coaches to beat a team like Basingstoke. At as canter as they say.
This result is not important. In that I suppose you are right. What is important is that we have depth because we sure as hell cannot compete in the transfer market. These kids have been carefully selected from a very large pool. This should have been a big win for them. At the risk of repetition they must have been slated by our coaches and Basingstoke players will dine out on this for years.
However, what you say is true- no sense in falling on a sword for a friendly. I will submit that. Still worries me though.
Basinstoke are Conference South, they are a semi-pro club. They play at a good standard, and would have been back in training before our players, with also some ex pro players. All these games are for, is fitness and to try out a few things. Wether we win, lose or draw is totally irrelevent.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 18, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
Today was no more or less relevant than a day at Bodymoor.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on July 18, 2010, 06:36:27 PM
I’m not sure there is a great deal of relevance to any pre-season game to be honest. I can think of two seasons back where there was wall to wall coverage on SSN of Tottenham’s pre-season campaign where they won every game by 10 and didn’t concede... only to find themselves being rescued by Harry “we only had two points when I got here” Redknapp at Christmas.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 18, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Today was no more or less relevant than a day at Bodymoor.
Spot on Dave. It was a day out for our young reserves, probably their first competitive game back supplemented by a few 'known faces' who had probably been asked to come along just to give the crowd some faces to recognise. The match very much had that sort of atmosphere...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 18, 2010, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: "Ads"
I’m not sure there is a great deal of relevance to any pre-season game to be honest. I can think of two seasons back where there was wall to wall coverage on SSN of Tottenham’s pre-season campaign where they won every game by 10 and didn’t concede... only to find themselves being rescued by Harry “we only had two points when I got here” Redknapp at Christmas.
Exactly, look at us last year. Peace Cup and then we lost to Wigan. Spurs drew with San Jose yesterday, West Ham lost to Thurrock. Complete irrelevance and in the 'old days', you wouldn't even have known these matches were taking place apart from some tiny small print at the end of the results section in the national newspapers....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on July 18, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
Well I hope they go up a couple of gears for the Walsall game I'm taking the kids and don't particularly want to see us walloped there !!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simon Page on July 18, 2010, 07:31:39 PM
Just got off the phone with my nephew who played for Basingstoke. That's why we lost; they had a Villa fan in their side. I think his one ambition now he's played against us is to play for us, so if Martin needs a right back/centre back/holding midfield player, he only has to call. If he wants he can play him right back as he's more accustomed to centre back.
Apparently Shorey was excellent. And if it's any consolation, Basingstoke beat Southampton yesterday by the same score.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 18, 2010, 07:44:26 PM
Spain lost first time out to Switzerland and won the World Cup. So, on that basis........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: oxoneil on July 18, 2010, 07:51:37 PM
I thought Shorey had gone !?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 18, 2010, 07:54:17 PM
I dont think anyone has "gone" and that includes marvellous Marlon, who i think is injured still.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 18, 2010, 08:14:19 PM
Quote from: "spangley1812"
I dont think anyone has "gone" and that includes marvellous Marlon, who i think is injured still.
No Marlon, Freddie and Andy Marshall have left due to the expiry of contract.
Freddie is the only one who has found a club though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 18, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Dare I ask where is Salifou given he's still got a while of that magical 10 year contract to run...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 18, 2010, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: "Simon Page"
Just got off the phone with my nephew who played for Basingstoke. That's why we lost; they had a Villa fan in their side. I think his one ambition now he's played against us is to play for us, so if Martin needs a right back/centre back/holding midfield player, he only has to call. If he wants he can play him right back as he's more accustomed to centre back.
Apparently Shorey was excellent. And if it's any consolation, Basingstoke beat Southampton yesterday by the same score.
Shorey was certainly good second half, very attacking and set up some nice moves down the left hand side, resulting in most of our chances. 'Excellent' might be pushing it though I think....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 18, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
I dont think anyone has "gone" and that includes marvellous Marlon, who i think is injured still.
No Marlon, Freddie and Andy Marshall have left due to the expiry of contract.
Freddie is the only one who has found a club though.
He has? Must have missed that. Where's Wild Willy ended up?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
Excellent? We were playing Basingstoke.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: "eamonn"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
I dont think anyone has "gone" and that includes marvellous Marlon, who i think is injured still.
No Marlon, Freddie and Andy Marshall have left due to the expiry of contract.
Freddie is the only one who has found a club though.
He has? Must have missed that. Where's Wild Willy ended up?
PSV Eindhoven.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 18, 2010, 10:22:39 PM
Amusing to see people getting worried about this.
First match of the pre-season, it doesn't really mean anything if you get tonked by Solihull and District Paper Boys XI.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 19, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
MON out!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 19, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: "Kent Neilsens Screamer"
MON out!
No wonder O'Leary called us.....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
...sugarbags?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 19, 2010, 06:30:18 PM
It's a pity you can't listen to the commentary on tonights game on the OS unless you're a signed up member of AVTV.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2010, 06:36:48 PM
Any early team news tonight ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 07:21:50 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 19, 2010, 08:05:28 PM
Quote from: "atomicjam"
1-1 now
For fuck's sake, disgusting, what the fuck, that's bollocks, how can we not beat these, arseholes, MON out, fuck me, twats.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on July 19, 2010, 08:07:26 PM
Young's goal was immense.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:07:54 PM
Ashley Young scored with a beautiful 30 yard chip.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:20:57 PM
What kit are we wearing? Anyone know?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 19, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
What kit are we wearing? Anyone know?
Home looks good!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 19, 2010, 08:24:04 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
What kit are we wearing? Anyone know?
The new home and yes, Ashley's goal was a belter.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Saunders9 on July 19, 2010, 08:25:22 PM
Showing the goals on sky sports news
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: "Saunders9"
Showing the goals on sky sports news
Bollocks, she's got eastenders on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 08:29:47 PM
Goal John Carew - Back heal from close ramge - pure big John quality! 2 -1
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:32:03 PM
Get in Johnny!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 19, 2010, 08:33:50 PM
I really hope he gets a contract extention and MON ships Heskey out, even on a free, just to get rid of his wages will be a bonus.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Half Time 2 - 1 to villa, we have really looked good, Ash and NRC are looking brilliant together. Posh are no mugs though and have had some good play themselves
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
I hope NRC stays too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I hope NRC stays too.
If he could improve his passing and dribbling slightly then he'll be useful.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2010, 08:40:17 PM
Where's Gabby?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 08:41:23 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I hope NRC stays too.
If he could improve his passing and dribbling slightly then he'll be useful.
To be honest, if he just keeps it simple he is more than useful. Its when he starts going on a mazy he gets a bit... well, confused. Break up play, stay mobile, give it to the ball players. If he does that he's great.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 19, 2010, 08:42:30 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I hope NRC stays too.
If he could improve his passing and dribbling slightly then he'll be useful.
To be honest, if he just keeps it simple he is more than useful. Its when he starts going on a mazy he gets a bit... well, confused. Break up play, stay mobile, give it to the ball players. If he does that he's great.
Good point, I guess that's what I mean.
Look at Obi Mikel at Chelsea. Had the best passing rate of the season last year, all he does is win the ball and pass it to the nearest bloke. Don't see why he couldn't just do that?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2010, 08:47:56 PM
NRC did play in that Mikel style position, but his positional awareness wasn't great and his energy wasted. I think he's best doing Petrov's running in a 3 man midfield. He has more passing options too, which helps.
I'd definitely keep him for this season at least, while Delph is out.
Are we playing a 4-2-3-1? I hope so. It's the future
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2010, 08:49:09 PM
I don't like the chevrons running down the new kit, would prefer it to be just a plain claret body.
Reminds me of that shite season we had under O'dreary.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on July 19, 2010, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
I don't like the chevrons running down the new kit, would prefer it to be just a plain claret body.
Reminds me of that shite season we had under O'dreary.
I agree I can't stand the kits they look bloody awful.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 08:59:36 PM
Goal 3-1 Eric Lichaj
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: supertom on July 19, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Goal 3-1 Eric Lichaj
Can I get rewind...bo selecta!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
How does lichaj look -and albrighton?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 09:02:51 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
How does lichaj look -and albrighton?
Lichaj looks quality, really good movement with great header on back post, one for the futre, playing out of possition though at left back , he is a right back normaly
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 09:05:18 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
How does lichaj look -and albrighton?
Lichaj looks quality, really good movement with great header on back post, one for the futre, playing out of possition though at left back , he is a right back normaly
Surprise, surprise.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
How does lichaj look -and albrighton?
Lichaj looks quality, really good movement with great header on back post, one for the futre, playing out of possition though at left back , he is a right back normaly
Allbrighton getting more in game now, just had a cracking shot just over
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:06:51 PM
He's also got a longer throw than Delap.
It could be a tedious avenue to goals.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2010, 09:07:23 PM
Quote from: "Karlos96"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
I don't like the chevrons running down the new kit, would prefer it to be just a plain claret body.
Reminds me of that shite season we had under O'dreary.
I agree I can't stand the kits they look bloody awful.
My fear is shit kit equals shit season...its happened in the past!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
There's nothing wrong with the kits. In fact the away is one of the best in a long long time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:09:26 PM
GOAL peterborough 2 villa 3
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:09:53 PM
2-3 ffs.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
There's nothing wrong with the kits. In fact the away is one of the best in a long long time.
It's awful. Much prefer the white one from last season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:11:02 PM
Quote from: "Legion"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
There's nothing wrong with the kits. In fact the away is one of the best in a long long time.
It's awful. Much prefer the white one from last season.
I couldnt disagree more.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
GOAL peterborough 2 villa 3
Charlie Lee with a shot from 25 yards which wrong-footed Elliott Parish
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 09:12:15 PM
I feel a new thread and a poll coming on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
Parish has never really convinced me. I think Siegrist should be third choice.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:12:54 PM
Bannan on for young and Osbourn on for Petrov
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:18:13 PM
Lichaj now playing Right Back, he looks brilliant! watch out for him!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
Subs: Jon Hogg for Marc Albrighton and James Collins Jnr for John Carew.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Lichaj now playing Right Back, he looks brilliant! watch out for him!
Mate, he's been known for a couple of years now. Played well in the Peace Cup last year too. He's a solid hard working player with a good attitude. I hope he makes it.
Here comes Boss Hogg.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:24:31 PM
Great save Elliott Parish from Grant McCann's 25-yard free-kick.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:33:45 PM
Great save again Elliott Parish from a close-range shot from Kelvin Langmead
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 19, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
FULL TIME - Peterborough 2 Villa 3
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2010, 09:36:08 PM
they're going to equalise aren't they?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 19, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
Done. A bit of a doddle about but entertaining. Cracking goals.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 09:36:54 PM
Unlikely.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 19, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
clearly not!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 19, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
Sounded like a really good run out for the lads tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on July 19, 2010, 09:46:13 PM
First game in, so that's good that we still win.
I guess Boro are a week or so ahead in fitness.
Usually we'd be losing 2-1 to Walsall.
Across the I.S Friday.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 19, 2010, 09:50:04 PM
Any links to the goals yet? Keep watching SSN and they keep purposely not showing them! Saw Posh's second, looked like it took a massive deflection.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: "eric woolban woolban"
First game in, so that's good that we still win.
I guess Boro are a week or so ahead in fitness.
Usually we'd be losing 2-1 to Walsall.
Across the I.S Friday.
That's next Tuesday night's entertainment.
Goals should be on SSN after ten, they showed the Young goal right after it happened which is well worth seeing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 19, 2010, 10:07:14 PM
Young's goal was beautiful - Ash at his best.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 19, 2010, 10:12:48 PM
v. Bohemians 24.7.10 15:00 ko time
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on July 19, 2010, 10:17:24 PM
Good run out, nice to see Ash hitting the ground running for the new season, even if it is only a friendly against lower league opposition. Stunning goal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 19, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
How does lichaj look -and albrighton?
Lichaj looks quality, really good movement with great header on back post, one for the futre, playing out of possition though at left back , he is a right back normaly
Didn't he play for West Ham?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 19, 2010, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Parish has never really convinced me. I think Siegrist should be third choice.
You wouldn't be saying that if you had seen him fumble his way around the penalty area at Rugby on Saturday. Granted he could have been doing it on purpose but he looked very dodgy. Mind you, playing behind Tamuff's back four would have given Lev Yashin palpitations.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 19, 2010, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: "abc123cox"
Great save again Elliott Parish from a close-range shot from Kelvin Langmead
So that's where he ended up.
I went to school with him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 19, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
This has probably been asked already, but are Peterborough going to become the new Walsall in our pre-season calendar?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on July 19, 2010, 11:49:52 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on July 20, 2010, 12:30:40 AM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 20, 2010, 12:49:50 AM
Lovely stuff - Young and Carew's goals have suddenly made me look forward to the new season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on July 20, 2010, 01:37:54 AM
A little bit of Brummie creeping into Mr Young's accent there.
A wonderful goal too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 20, 2010, 02:07:44 AM
Even the Posh fans were applauding.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2010, 02:10:24 AM
Quote from: "Percy"
Even the Posh fans were applauding.
David Cameron & HRH Wills were there?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 20, 2010, 07:50:17 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Percy"
Even the Posh fans were applauding.
David Cameron & HRH Wills were there?
Are they villa fans then??????????
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Merv on July 20, 2010, 09:11:40 AM
I went last night - 3-2 masks what was a bit of a stroll, with Villa never really getting anywhere near top gear - started with a strong line-up and gradually whittled down to an almost exclusively reserve line-up for the last 25-30 mins.
You've seen the goals. Ash's was wonderful; the chip didn't look on when he took possession and the Peterborough 'keeper's a tall guy. Young played as a striker, off Carew, last night and really enjoyed himself. In the second half, just before he came off, he tried a lovely bit of skill where he spun the ball round a defender and ran to collect - defender just nicked it off his toe.
Other than Young, Lichaj looked good. Started left-back (Martin!!!!!!) and did okay, moved to RB for much of the second half and was very comfortable. Scored a good header - though the ref missed a bit of a nudge on the defender.
Reo-Coker had bags of stamina - dare I say it, he had more in his legs on 70 mins than Petrov did on 20. Petrov worries me for the season ahead, I must say. I know it's a friendly, and the first one for the senior players, but we really must do something with him next season. Either not play him flat out, or go with an extra man in midfield.
Downing was quite-ish, one good strike in the second half when he came inside. He and Albrighton switched wings in the first half, to the detriment of both - both looked far happier when restored to left and right. Albrighton really perked up when back on the right.
One last thing.... Beye was truly awful. Destroyed twice by George Boyd early on, he showed hardly anything at RB. And when he was moved to CB for the last 25 mins, it was terrifying to watch. Played like a man who knows he has no future at Villa.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 20, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Percy"
Even the Posh fans were applauding.
David Cameron & HRH Wills were there?
Apparantly Tom Hanks was washing his hair and couldn`t make it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MattW on July 20, 2010, 09:55:28 AM
Is there anything to be made of Young playing off the striker in this game?
For example: if Milner does go, might it mean Ash will play in the centre, with Downing/Albrighton/McGeady on the wings?
If this does happen, any thoughts on whether it would work?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
I think it could, certainly. There's no reason he has to be limited to playing on the wing although he is a superb winger
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 20, 2010, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
A little bit of Brummie creeping into Mr Young's accent there.
That's exactly what I thought.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 20, 2010, 10:01:51 AM
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Merv on July 20, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Young could certainly play as a striker - done it before. But I don't know if last night was a hint of things to come or more a case of no other strikers available; no Gabby, Delfouneso, Heskey or Weinmann. Carew was the only recognised striker there last night.
Wee Barry played as the lone striker for the last 20 mins!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SteveN on July 20, 2010, 12:11:46 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
My hobby horse, forget Keane, keep Milner, play 4-2-3-1 with Gabby up front (Carew & the Fonz to cover) Young behind with Downing & Milner on the wings (Albrighton & Bannan for cover) and two behind, Petrov and NRC.
If we sell Milner then look to use funds on a winger (McGeady-although there must be better surely?) and a good holding midfield player - Parker?
Is there any reason why the Fonz couldn't play in the Young position and cover him? I'm at the stage where I would much prefer to give him his chance now rather than buy Keane.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 20, 2010, 12:20:13 PM
Quote from: "SteveN"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
My hobby horse, forget Keane, keep Milner, play 4-2-3-1 with Gabby up front (Carew & the Fonz to cover) Young behind with Downing & Milner on the wings (Albrighton & Bannan for cover) and two behind, Petrov and NRC.
If we sell Milner then look to use funds on a winger (McGeady-although there must be better surely?) and a good holding midfield player - Parker?
Is there any reason why the Fonz couldn't play in the Young position and cover him? I'm at the stage where I would much prefer to give him his chance now rather than buy Keane.
Personally I think we should sell Heskey. I usually (attempt) to stick up for him, but it's just not worked out and he should be moved on.
Keane, Agbonlahor, Carew and Delfouneso would give us a great range of attacking options.
I've always wanted to see Robbie Keane at Villa and think he could easily do a job for us for 2 or 3 seasons at least.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irreverent ad on July 20, 2010, 12:26:07 PM
Does anyone know if MON was there last night?
I have not seen an interview with him yet.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 20, 2010, 12:28:56 PM
Yes.
Could see him on the bench in the Sky highlights.
Wearing a suit. Probably off to see Huntelaar at Heathrow afterwards.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irreverent ad on July 20, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Yes.
Could see him on the bench in the Sky highlights.
Wearing a suit. Probably off to see Huntelaar at Heathrow afterwards.
Why, was he giving him a lift to WHL?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 20, 2010, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: "irreverent ad"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Yes.
Could see him on the bench in the Sky highlights.
Wearing a suit. Probably off to see Huntelaar at Heathrow afterwards.
Why, was he giving him a lift to WHL?
I believe it is referred to as "The Lane" these days.
*vomits*
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on July 20, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
I think I need to change the 'Location' part of my H&V sign on thingee!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 20, 2010, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: "John M"
I think I need to change the 'Location' part of my H&V sign on thingee!
Don't change it to Manchester though John, because you can't be a proper fan then ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on July 20, 2010, 01:29:07 PM
Any idea who was captain last night? Assume it was Petrov but would be interested to know who took over when he went off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 01:52:12 PM
Quote from: "Merv"
Young could certainly play as a striker - done it before. But I don't know if last night was a hint of things to come or more a case of no other strikers available; no Gabby, Delfouneso, Heskey or Weinmann. Carew was the only recognised striker there last night.
Wee Barry played as the lone striker for the last 20 mins!
James Collins came on. He's a striker.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Merv on July 20, 2010, 01:57:59 PM
Yes he is, Maz, yes he is. He got 5-10 mins, I think. Shaved head, no? Not sure he touched the ball. I'd forgotten about him, to be honest.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on July 20, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "John M"
I think I need to change the 'Location' part of my H&V sign on thingee!
Don't change it to Manchester though John, because you can't be a proper fan then ;)
Well, it's already been decided that I don't care about the Villa as I'd be prepared to give Aidan McGeady a chance if we signed him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: "Merv"
Yes he is, Maz, yes he is. He got 5-10 mins, I think. Shaved head, no? Not sure he touched the ball. I'd forgotten about him, to be honest.
Thats him. He's a old fashioned forward. Strong, holds the ball up, can finish well. I'm not yet convinced he'll make it at Villa, especially as he's up against the likes of Delfouneso and Weimann but he has potential.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "John M"
I think I need to change the 'Location' part of my H&V sign on thingee!
Don't change it to Manchester though John, because you can't be a proper fan then ;)
Well, it's already been decided that I don't care about the Villa as I'd be prepared to give Aidan McGeady a chance if we signed him.
Oh dear, which cleft has been saying that then?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on July 20, 2010, 02:22:01 PM
Surely you can guess?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 02:24:56 PM
I can. But where? I could do with a laugh.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on July 20, 2010, 02:27:58 PM
It was on the transfer thread a week or so ago - good luck finding it!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 20, 2010, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: "SteveN"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
My hobby horse, forget Keane, keep Milner, play 4-2-3-1 with Gabby up front (Carew & the Fonz to cover) Young behind with Downing & Milner on the wings (Albrighton & Bannan for cover) and two behind, Petrov and NRC.
If we sell Milner then look to use funds on a winger (McGeady-although there must be better surely?) and a good holding midfield player - Parker?
Is there any reason why the Fonz couldn't play in the Young position and cover him? I'm at the stage where I would much prefer to give him his chance now rather than buy Keane.
I agree with you on much of that. Definitely think we should try and give some of the youth a chance. Certainly give Albrighton a chance ahead of signing someone like McGeady (Bluntly, Albrighton is a considerably better player who is younger).
Lichaj wore number two? All the others were wearing their squad numbers from last year.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on July 20, 2010, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "SteveN"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
My hobby horse, forget Keane, keep Milner, play 4-2-3-1 with Gabby up front (Carew & the Fonz to cover) Young behind with Downing & Milner on the wings (Albrighton & Bannan for cover) and two behind, Petrov and NRC.
If we sell Milner then look to use funds on a winger (McGeady-although there must be better surely?) and a good holding midfield player - Parker?
Is there any reason why the Fonz couldn't play in the Young position and cover him? I'm at the stage where I would much prefer to give him his chance now rather than buy Keane.
I agree with you on much of that. Definitely think we should try and give some of the youth a chance. Certainly give Albrighton a chance ahead of signing someone like McGeady (Bluntly, Albrighton is a considerably better player who is younger).
What are you judging Albrighton's elevated status on?
So far he's demonstrated potential in the reserves, glorified pre-season friendlies and for 20 minutes in an FA Cup tie but has struggled in PL games. He might be "considerably better" but he is yet to prove it at the required level.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on July 20, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
Albrighton's PL time has mainly been coming on when we're chasing a goal, as he's the most offensive option on the bench. Hardly the easist introduction.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 20, 2010, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "SteveN"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I would not want Young playing in the middle as a pair with Petrov.
Playing behind the striker would work with 2 centre midfielders behind him.
My hobby horse, forget Keane, keep Milner, play 4-2-3-1 with Gabby up front (Carew & the Fonz to cover) Young behind with Downing & Milner on the wings (Albrighton & Bannan for cover) and two behind, Petrov and NRC.
If we sell Milner then look to use funds on a winger (McGeady-although there must be better surely?) and a good holding midfield player - Parker?
Is there any reason why the Fonz couldn't play in the Young position and cover him? I'm at the stage where I would much prefer to give him his chance now rather than buy Keane.
I agree with you on much of that. Definitely think we should try and give some of the youth a chance. Certainly give Albrighton a chance ahead of signing someone like McGeady (Bluntly, Albrighton is a considerably better player who is younger).
What are you judging Albrighton's elevated status on?
So far he's demonstrated potential in the reserves, glorified pre-season friendlies and for 20 minutes in an FA Cup tie but has struggled in PL games. He might be "considerably better" but he is yet to prove it at the required level.
I'm judging him on those which are of a similar standard to a match at St Mirren or Kilmarnock. I'm not saying he's a great player. It's just that based on what I've seen of him I know his strengths and weaknesses. Like McGeady he is a bit lightweight but his crossing is much better. I might be old fashioned here but I like wingers who can cross from the bye line which McGeady is not that good at. McGeady would earn a few more points with his tricks and flair if I thought he could manage it at the higher level of the Premiership.
My statement was that Albrighton is bluntly a better player than McGeady based on my criteria for judging players in their positions. If we were to be linked with another winger I could make comparative judgments between him and Albrighton. For instance I would prefer to sign David Bentley than have Albrighton start but would still prefer Albrighton to McGeady.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on July 20, 2010, 03:29:07 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Albrighton's PL time has mainly been coming on when we're chasing a goal, as he's the most offensive option on the bench. Hardly the easist introduction.
I agree and I'm not writing him off. He's got a lot of ability but so had Stepehn Cook. I've got high hopes for him but I just think it's a little premature to be saying he's considerably better than a man with 28 international caps.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on July 20, 2010, 03:39:23 PM
Salifou's got forty odd caps, and i wouldn't rate him better..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: mozza on July 20, 2010, 03:40:26 PM
Yes I know- it was a pre-season kick about and Posh are possibly 2 weeks ahead of us fitness wise but I came away from last night's victory with a few concerns -
Beye did not look bothered - even if his future isn't with us surely he would have put in some effort as there might have been scouts from other clubs watching
MON played Lichaj out of position on the left and the lad didn't look comfortable at all.......he improved when moved to the right and in my humble opinion could be a regular in that spot in years to come (reminds me of John Gidman)
The Dunne/Collins partnership looked suspect and the latter was at fault for the Posh equaliser - anyone know what he was wearing that were protruding behind his legs and above his socks (looked like splints?)
We didn't work their keeper - Brad senior was the busier in the first half and made a couple of excellent saves ........a couple of long range efforts that whizzed over the crossbar from Downing & Albrighton were the highlights of the second half
Downing was getting some stick from several Villa fans in the seated area - and rightly so - his only worthwhile contribution being the corner from which Lichaj put us 3-1 up .............the guy doesn't have the ability to go past the opposition and enevitably goes inside or backwards
On the positive side (yes there were some) NRC put in a shift and Ashley appeared to enjoy playing more central role - excellent finish to open the scoring
Maybe I'm being highly critical or expecting too much too soon ..............at least the ale will be more palatable in Dublin this weekend
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 20, 2010, 03:48:21 PM
Lichaj looked quite comfortable on the right and left I thought. He had a good game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 20, 2010, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Lichaj looked quite comfortable on the right and left I thought. He had a good game.
Yeah, I'd heard he played very well on both sides.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Merv on July 20, 2010, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Lichaj wore number two? All the others were wearing their squad numbers from last year.
No, I think they were mixed up a bit. Harry Forrester came on with No.11 on his shirt.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on July 20, 2010, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: "Merv"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Lichaj wore number two? All the others were wearing their squad numbers from last year.
No, I think they were mixed up a bit. Harry Forrester came on with No.11 on his shirt.
Him again. How did he look?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Merv on July 20, 2010, 05:04:35 PM
Stroppy, in the main.
Nah, he had just a few minutes, Peter. Came on wide right and looked really up for it, bit frustrated he didn't get much of the ball, had a go at someone (Osbourne, I think), for a sloppy pass, chuntered under his breath and shook his head as the final whistle blew.
And Maz, I agree: Lichaj looked good left and right, though obviously better on the right. I know we've been linked tentatively with Matthews and Clyne but if we're after a young full-back to act as a back-up and develop gradually, I think Lichaj can be that player.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on July 20, 2010, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: "Guy M"
Any idea who was captain last night? Assume it was Petrov but would be interested to know who took over when he went off.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: selly park trinity on July 21, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
Request for info here....
Does anybody know where the villa team are stopping in Dublin for the Bohemians match?
Cheers!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 21, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
Not exactly, but Jack Woodwank on the official site gives a pretty good clue on the AVtrashTV thing
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: march on July 21, 2010, 10:50:58 PM
anyone know of the reserve friendlies being played, seen one at Chasetown I can not get to, any others ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on July 22, 2010, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: "selly park trinity"
Request for info here....
Does anybody know where the villa team are stopping in Dublin for the Bohemians match?
Cheers!
Not a hundred per cent, but I think it's the Portmarnock Hotel. Irish squad usually trains fairly close by, so they are probably using the same training facilities.
Cannot wait until Sat.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rob Gee on July 24, 2010, 07:12:34 AM
At the airport, nothing like the first AVFC game of the season (for me). Can't see any other Villa at the moment....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: mj on July 24, 2010, 02:37:20 PM
From OS
Villa line-up CONFIRMED: Friedel, Lichaj, Dunne, Clark, Shorey, Albrighton, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Downing, A Young, Agbonlahor.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: mj on July 24, 2010, 02:43:50 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 02:49:31 PM
Can't read too much into these line-ups, but I really hope we fully test out the 4-2-3-1 formation, or variants. Not sure Young is robust enough to play the second striker role but it could be right up his street, potentially. One of our biggest problems last season was not getting our creative players close enough to one another, this sort of formation would help that.
O'Connor, Doherty, McGuiness and Byrne are presumably their overseas stars?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: march on July 24, 2010, 02:53:56 PM
now been two games on the row we have used this formation, maybe because other forwards not available, maybe the one that is going to be played with Young the pivot point
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on July 24, 2010, 03:11:02 PM
Anyone gota link to the commentry for free?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2010, 03:15:22 PM
Pissed-off I'm not at the game, was all set to go but a work deadline was brought forward a couple of days.
Bohs played a league game last night in Bray, County Wicklow, quite close to Dublin. They won 3-0. Looks like there's only one survior today, Ken Oman.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: "toplad4u"
Anyone gota link to the commentry for free?
No, even the OS commentary is down.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MikeH on July 24, 2010, 03:16:40 PM
Wouldn't get too excited about this one
We're in the middle of the Irish League season over here and Bohemians played a league match last night so don't think they would have their normal team out...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: "MikeH"
Wouldn't get too excited about this one
We're in the middle of the Irish League season over here and Bohemians played a league match last night so don't think they would have their normal team out...
Maybe just as well considering how dismal they were the other night when dumped out of Europe by that Welsh team.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 03:27:04 PM
We're losing. Nice.
Mistake by Brad I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on July 24, 2010, 03:30:58 PM
any streams to this game?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 03:42:22 PM
It would appear we're losing to their Reserves/Youth team.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2010, 03:47:24 PM
Hands up who wouldn't be shocked if MON plays 4-4-2 against West Ham.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 03:49:37 PM
Big man and speedster up top, centre back at right back, two wingers?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 24, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
We don't seem to be getting overly well prepared for the start of the season, which is under a month away.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 03:52:46 PM
I do feel pretty pessimistic, but then I did this time last year too.
I think Everton could finish above us this year, unless they get their better players taken from them. Arteta, Cahill, Pienaar, Fellaini would all get into our midfield comfortably (and be one of our best players) plus Rodwell looks very talented.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 04:14:22 PM
Carlos has replaced Clark at half time and is playing centre half.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 04:29:23 PM
Goal! Carew header from a great piece of work and cross from Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
And another goal for the Bohs . . . Nice work villa
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
2-1. Dunne gets turned, a nice one-two and Brad beaten.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 24, 2010, 04:43:46 PM
It's gonna be a long Long season me fears!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 24, 2010, 04:44:21 PM
It's only a friendly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 04:48:20 PM
It is only a friendly, but it's also only Bohemians' reserve team. Silly to read too much into it, but I do have a feeling we can only really play at full throttle, and I think that's one of the reasons we start to fade out towards the end of the season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 04:52:18 PM
Full time: Bohemian Reserves 2 Aston Villa 1.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2010, 04:52:38 PM
How do you know its their reserves?
I'm so ignorant I couldn't name you a player without guessing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on July 24, 2010, 04:53:41 PM
I am always staggered by people reading anything into results of a friendly. Especially when it still July and the players have only been back training a week.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Lincoln was only a friendly last year, where we lost 3-1, but that didn't stop a reaction similar to a loss against Small Heath.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 24, 2010, 04:53:49 PM
It's only a friendly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 24, 2010, 04:55:54 PM
It is only a friendly, but it's just the general malaise that's around the club at the moment and these performances aren't lifting it. There is no real optimism or reason to be optimistic at the moment.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 24, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
I remember the pre season when we signed Collymore,didnt he score on his debut and loooked sharp,then we lost the first 3 games ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 24, 2010, 04:56:33 PM
How did all our new signings play?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
We always get these sorts of results in pre season.
Walsall haven't scored a goal yet in pre season so they're bound to score one or two on tuesday.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2010, 04:56:58 PM
Quote from: "Ads"
How do you know its their reserves?
I'm so ignorant I couldn't name you a player without guessing.
Their first team played last night.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2010, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Nonsense.
You need to start thinking of the children. Why won’t anybody please think of the children?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on July 24, 2010, 05:00:15 PM
Man City lost 2-0 last night.Surely that must mean a shite season for them too :)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on July 24, 2010, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: "VILLALWAYS"
Man City lost 2-0 last night.Surely that must mean a shite season for them too :)
Yeah but they just fielded their castaways....Who we'll probably lap up given half a chance ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 24, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
What me? Shit-stirrer?
Ashley Young and Curtis Davies led the pack of high profile players at VIP haunt Krystle on Thursday night as they partied into the early hours of the morning.
"John Carew, Nathan Delfouneso, Gabriel Agbonlahor and Steve Sidwell also decamped to the Harcourt Street venue after a day of training.
But the players spent most of their night fighting off wannabe WAGs as they stuck together, shunning the dancefloor -- and took it relatively easy on the booze.
However, certain players lived up to the stereotype of footballers living in excess -- swapping Champagne for Jagerbombs. "
As our exclusive pictures show, the players were happy to party the night away at the elite club -- their second night in a row at a VIP Dublin hotspot.
The boys were also spotted soaking up the atmosphere at Swords hotspot The Wright Venue on Wednesday night.
The Irish Herald - Clicky (http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/my-wagtastic-time-with-the-villa-boys-in-krystle-vip-bash-2271230.html)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
Bohs goalie played a blinder by all accounts. Produced two finger-tip saves from Bananaman who came on as a sub. Albrighton set-up Carew with a beautiful ball for a second but big John headed wide. The Gypsies (Bohs other nickname) winner was scored against the run of play by a French trialist called Enzo.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 24, 2010, 05:10:30 PM
There does seem a bit of a malaise around the club lately but I think the results of pre-season friendlies provide very little idea of what will happen come the season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2010, 05:12:24 PM
I didn't think Sidwell had travelled, didn't see him in the squad today.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: march on July 24, 2010, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
What me? Shit-stirrer?
"John Carew, Nathan Delfouneso, Gabriel Agbonlahor and Steve Sidwell also decamped to the Harcourt Street venue after a day of training.
not you the paper !!
one of these is currently in France and I would imagine MON gave them the pass !!
In the photo's neither Davies nor Young look drunk do they ?
no wonder footballers do not mix with this kind of rubbish
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 24, 2010, 05:21:18 PM
Anyone interested- englands vital u19 game with France is on now live on channel 411 eurosport 2.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 05:26:39 PM
Can you catch the england game on a stream somewhere?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
I'll post a link in the U-19 thread.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: sfx412 on July 24, 2010, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Always is when we lose or draw against nobodies in pre season games
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on July 24, 2010, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Always is when we lose or draw against nobodies
I don't recall any over-reactions when we win friendlies either. Did I miss the open-top bus parade after the Inter game?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2010, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Always is when we lose or draw against nobodies
Yes I remember it well after the 0-3 against Doncaster, it was all anybody posted.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 24, 2010, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "sfx412"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Always is when we lose or draw against nobodies
Yes I remember it well after the 0-3 against Doncaster, it was all anybody posted.
Oh, was that only a friendly then? I was sure at the time it was a proper cup game, it's why I was so pissed off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 24, 2010, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
It's only a friendly.
Always is when we lose or draw against nobodies in pre season games
I said the same against Peterborough.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 24, 2010, 05:47:17 PM
The 3-0 Donny game was in the cup!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
Look calm down it's not like it's Basingstoke or anything.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
v Walsall Tuesday 27.7.10 7.45pm KO
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on July 24, 2010, 06:12:39 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
There does seem a bit of a malaise around the club lately but I think the results of pre-season friendlies provide very little idea of what will happen come the season.
The pro-MON support at the end of the season at away games was as strong as it was when he first arrived in my opinion and that was in drastic contrast to the mood on here.
I'd therefore argue that while there is a definite malaise around the club ON HERE, we the H&V posting public make up a VERY small cross-section of the Villa support and aren't necessarily reflective of the whole. I know my mood has benefited from my self-imposed restriction as to the time spent on here since the end of the season. Que sera, sera and all that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2010, 06:39:51 PM
I prefer it when our pre-season results are bad. When we win them all, we tend to start the season poorly and when we have a poor pre-season, we seem a bit more up for the start of the season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2010, 06:52:04 PM
The thing I find puzzling is that almost every close season there is seemingly a one step away from a crisis situation. We never seem to have event free summers anymore. It's kind of a nervous feeling I get, can't quite fathom it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 24, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
From what I saw on the Villa Live thing, the performance was pretty good, just the result that went against us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 24, 2010, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: "OCD"
I prefer it when our pre-season results are bad. When we win them all, we tend to start the season poorly and when we have a poor pre-season, we seem a bit more up for the start of the season.
At least that way we have a low level expectation for the start of the season and it can only get better... thats the theory!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 24, 2010, 07:01:47 PM
Quote from: "Guy M"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
There does seem a bit of a malaise around the club lately but I think the results of pre-season friendlies provide very little idea of what will happen come the season.
The pro-MON support at the end of the season at away games was as strong as it was when he first arrived in my opinion and that was in drastic contrast to the mood on here.
I'd therefore argue that while there is a definite malaise around the club ON HERE, we the H&V posting public make up a VERY small cross-section of the Villa support and aren't necessarily reflective of the whole. I know my mood has benefited from my self-imposed restriction as to the time spent on here since the end of the season. Que sera, sera and all that.
I definitely agree with what you say and when I was at Wembley there was a great deal of support for the manager. I also agree with what you say about here and that websites like here are far more likely to draw in the unhappy.
I'm not in particular referring to the manager when I say malaise though. I'm talking more about the building Milner saga and some of the claims (which I don't for one second believe) of their being a sell to buy policy at the club (in that we have no money rather than we have to get some people of the wage bill) which means the mood around the club and from the supporters is less buoyant.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: murgsy on July 24, 2010, 07:16:30 PM
Saw Everton demolish PNE today. Without most of the WC players. They looked sharp. And Beckford will pay off as a gamble.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2010, 07:24:22 PM
MON out.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on July 24, 2010, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
I definitely agree with what you say and when I was at Wembley there was a great deal of support for the manager. I also agree with what you say about here and that websites like here are far more likely to draw in the unhappy.
I'm not in particular referring to the manager when I say malaise though. I'm talking more about the building Milner saga and some of the claims (which I don't for one second believe) of their being a sell to buy policy at the club (in that we have no money rather than we have to get some people of the wage bill) which means the mood around the club and from the supporters is less buoyant.
Dunne doesn't look less buoyant, Ashley's interviews have seemed pretty chirpy and I quite like the fact that the team are socialising (and being allowed to socialise) during the trip to Dublin.
I suppose it all depends on what you prefer to focus. I'm quite excited at the prospect of this summer seeing a bit of an overhaul while retaining Wee Martin as our manager. Others clearly aren't. At the end of the day, it'll still be a Villa side, playing in claret and blue that I'll be able to watch with my bro, my Dad and my mates and for me, that's all that really matters.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: "Guy M"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
There does seem a bit of a malaise around the club lately but I think the results of pre-season friendlies provide very little idea of what will happen come the season.
The pro-MON support at the end of the season at away games was as strong as it was when he first arrived in my opinion and that was in drastic contrast to the mood on here.
I'd therefore argue that while there is a definite malaise around the club ON HERE, we the H&V posting public make up a VERY small cross-section of the Villa support and aren't necessarily reflective of the whole. I know my mood has benefited from my self-imposed restriction as to the time spent on here since the end of the season. Que sera, sera and all that.
I don't know where you sit, Guy, but around where I sit the moaning at the manager at least matches, and possibly exceeds, anything on here.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 24, 2010, 07:55:10 PM
I am just back from the game. We didn't play well but the Bohs keeper was in superb form. He made a couple of great saves. Marc Albrigthon and Barry Bannan showed they have great potential while some of the more established villa players looked unfit and sluggish.
A few of them seemed to be carrying a bit of weight.
Bohemians played a League game on Friday evening and so rested some of their players. They played really well and on balance were worth their win. However, you'd expect us to beat a second string Eircom League side...
Big contingent of villa fans at the game, maybe 1,5000 to 2,000. Nice to meet some brummies there too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2010, 08:04:17 PM
Is Gabby looking fat?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bob on July 24, 2010, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: "Guy M"
Dunne doesn't look less buoyant, Ashley's interviews have seemed pretty chirpy and I quite like the fact that the team are socialising (and being allowed to socialise) during the trip to Dublin.
I suppose it all depends on what you prefer to focus. I'm quite excited at the prospect of this summer seeing a bit of an overhaul while retaining Wee Martin as our manager. Others clearly aren't. At the end of the day, it'll still be a Villa side, playing in claret and blue that I'll be able to watch with my bro, my Dad and my mates and for me, that's all that really matters.
You seem in a good mood Guy!
Good posts btw, I have been keeping my distance from a lot of football "news" lately, it's definitely the way to go as far as I am concerned.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 24, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Is Gabby looking fat?
Well they all looked like they just weren't sharp, and one or two looked like they had a couple of pounds put on. I wouldn't say fat just, in need of a couple more weeks training!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 24, 2010, 09:28:13 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Is Gabby looking fat?
I thought this from the training pictures, but I thought it at the start of last season and it turned out to be about a stone of muscle.
Picture on the OS looks like he's had an arse transplant with Barry though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa1 on July 24, 2010, 09:35:56 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Is Gabby looking fat?
Well they all looked like they just weren't sharp, and one or two looked like they had a couple of pounds put on. I wouldn't say fat just, in need of a couple more weeks training!
Downing?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2010, 09:38:42 PM
Lots of teams looked sharper and fitter than us last season. Do we even have a fitness coach?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SO Villa on July 24, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
Most of our players are probably still knackered after being flogged last season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2010, 10:45:02 PM
didn't even know we were playing. Friendlies are run abouts and nothing is taken seriously. Nobody wants to get injured, and everything is controlled. If anyone thinks that this would be a similar performance or score if we played them in competitive match then I suggest you see a doctor and quickly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 24, 2010, 11:43:25 PM
Saw the action on SSN earlier. First goal was a Friedel mistake, bad clearance ended up being lobbed back over him. Their keeper pulled off a reasonable save from a Bannan piledriver, nice cross from Albrighton put it on a plate for BJC and the winner looked like it was a break but was a great finish from 25 yards.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2010, 11:50:18 PM
Highlights
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 24, 2010, 11:52:52 PM
Bloody hell some of our players do look a bit heavy don't they.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
Love the black top the lads were being interviewed in. Big lion is very retro. Cracking winning goal from them, and Big John looks in top shape. Nothing to worry about, it's a good work out. Need some new bodies and we'll be in good shape. I am looking forward to seeing some of the excellent kids coming through.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2010, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Bloody hell some of our players do look a bit heavy don't they.
speaking of which, who was number 27?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 25, 2010, 02:57:10 AM
Hmm, when was the last time we scored a goal like Bohemians winner?
Fantastic work by Albrighton for our goal - this kid needs to start league games, not come on with fifteen minutes left when we're chasing a game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bob on July 25, 2010, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Bloody hell some of our players do look a bit heavy don't they.
speaking of which, who was number 27?
Osbourne.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on July 25, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I don't know where you sit, Guy, but around where I sit the moaning at the manager at least matches, and possibly exceeds, anything on here.
I pick and choose which games I attend depending on what's going on in my life, but tend to choose the sanctuary of the Upper Trinity. Awesome view of the game as a whole and plenty of space to not have to sit too near other people and listen to their opinions!
Be honest paulie, the majority of people you sit near post on here tho, don't they? :o)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on July 25, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Love the black top the lads were being interviewed in. Big lion is very retro. Cracking winning goal from them, and Big John looks in top shape. Nothing to worry about, it's a good work out. Need some new bodies and we'll be in good shape. I am looking forward to seeing some of the excellent kids coming through.
Well said that man.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 25, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: "Guy M"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I don't know where you sit, Guy, but around where I sit the moaning at the manager at least matches, and possibly exceeds, anything on here.
I pick and choose which games I attend depending on what's going on in my life, but tend to choose the sanctuary of the Upper Trinity. Awesome view of the game as a whole and plenty of space to not have to sit too near other people and listen to their opinions!
Be honest paulie, the majority of people you sit near post on here tho, don't they? :o)
I sit in the UT too. If you're sitting in the bits with space (ie the wings), you're obviously amongst other day trippers ;-)
Where i am it is 100 percent season ticket holders, so I suspect the grumbling has had more time to settle in.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 25, 2010, 12:32:22 PM
Quote from: "eamonn"
Hmm, when was the last time we scored a goal like Bohemians winner?
Fantastic work by Albrighton for our goal - this kid needs to start league games, not come on with fifteen minutes left when we're chasing a game.
Wondered who that was with the cross.
Albrighton must have added an extra yard of pace to his game as he always struck me as a David Bentley or Beckham type (but without the crap hair). Namely, not the quickest but excellent pin-point delivery from out wide.
True, he was only up against some LOI clogger, but hopefully bodes well for the future.
Not bothered about the result at all. Pre season results are worth the square root of fcuk all. All about getting game-time into the legs.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 25, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Albrighton was a threat all game, our best player. Ashley played well too. We were once again poor at holding the possession in central midfield.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 25, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Albrighton was a threat all game, our best player. Ashley played well too. We were once again poor at holding the possession in central midfield.
Plus ca change.
I really, really like Albrighton and would prefer him to McGeady. I will clarify this by saying it's a matter of person choice as he is more my kind of winger than McGeady.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on July 25, 2010, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Albrighton was a threat all game, our best player. Ashley played well too. We were once again poor at holding the possession in central midfield.
Plus ca change.
I really, really like Albrighton and would prefer him to McGeady. I will clarify this by saying it's a matter of person choice as he is more my kind of winger than McGeady.
I know we had a discussion about him the other day, but I really like him too. My only concern is that he really did look like a little boy lost when he came on a couple of times last season. Now nerves is not unusual in a young player and hopefully he will get over it but sometimes ability on its own isn't enough if the player hasn't got the mental strength to go with it. I'm thinking of players like Stephen Cooke and Peter Wittingham here.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 25, 2010, 04:11:59 PM
He has a style that's very easy on the eye though.
When he came on v Fiorentina he looked as good as anything on the pitch -including our lot and their top internationals.
Yesterdays result illustrates the folly of reading too much into a pre season performance or result. But if we give him more of a go this year I reckon he's good enough to take it. Perhaps nowhere near being a nailed on starter, but a definite option from the bench. Not at rightback though, that's completely pointless.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdward on July 25, 2010, 05:25:22 PM
I was at the game yesterday, and also at the team training session on Friday. Gabby has definitely put some pounds on over the summer, looks like he has been eating at McDonalds. Petrov and Collins look fit, i'd say they are really looking after themselves, Gabby take note. As already said it is only a friendly, most of the players are not looking sharp enough yet, Albrighton had a good game so did Ashley, NRC looks like he doesn't want to be around. Some of the younger lads look keen, Bannan, Hogg, Lichaj. Need to sort out CM though, Osbourne, NRC are just not the answer. Jim Henry (fitness coach) was putting them all through their paces on Friday, shuttle runs, sprints, didn't see anyone struggling, no need to panic just yet, a rare mistake by Friedel is all it was.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 25, 2010, 06:31:48 PM
The crossbar challenge at half time was funny!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 25, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
The crossbar challenge at half time was funny!
I don't remember that. Bloody hell, i must have drunk more than i thought.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 25, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
I know we had a discussion about him the other day, but I really like him too. My only concern is that he really did look like a little boy lost when he came on a couple of times last season. Now nerves is not unusual in a young player and hopefully he will get over it but sometimes ability on its own isn't enough if the player hasn't got the mental strength to go with it. I'm thinking of players like Stephen Cooke and Peter Wittingham here.
It's very easy to be intimated and fail to impress when you're brought on for 15 minutes to try and change the game when we're losing/drawing (like in Albrighton's league appearances against Wigan, Liverpool and Wolves).
Give the kid a few starts, particularly in Europe and the Rumbelows Cup and see how he fares.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on July 25, 2010, 08:38:42 PM
I thought Wee Barry had a good game when he came on yesterday . Albrighton did well . At least some of the kids were up for it. We really have nothing going on in central midfield with Judas James heading for Manchester. I think its safe to say Osborne is not the answer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: fredm on July 25, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
Still think we are woefully lacking in tactics. Our movement off the ball was poor again yesterday and how many corners did we have? And how many times did we achieve anything?
We must have had a bucketful, (I lost count) but we never won one in the air as far as I can remember.
Those who have said Albrighton had a good game I will have to disagree with. Yes, his cross for the goal was top class but I thought his first touch and control let him down on several occasions. (and I have great hopes for him after seeing him last pre-season and the couple of matches he played)
To me Ashley was the only player to come out with credit, I appreciate it was a pre-season friendly but I don't expect to see experienced internationals given the run around by part-timers, no matter what standard of fitness the internationals are at.
Oh, and one last thing - if the answer is Isiah Osborne - Gawd help us with the bleeding question!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: steffo on July 25, 2010, 09:30:46 PM
Back from the game after going by train / ferry and stopping with friends in Dublin who are 'high' up in Bohs. Had seats two rows in front of Randy Lerner.
My young son who was with me thought he was royalty. Fair play to Mr Lerner signed whatever and having his photo taken was never a problem.
Bohs supporters were staggered with our support. They were delighted of course with the income.
Thought Albrighton was the pick. Don't read too much into this game - yes they played the night before and lost in the Champs League to TNS, but one week later and sharper...
It was great to see so many different Villa shirts from over the years. I'm sure anyone who went from the UK had a good time and Irish Villians flew the flag for us over there.
A great weekend.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: mozza on July 25, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
Less said about the match the better -
Great trip - Irish Villains & Bohs made us welcome
Murrays Bar was rocking pre-match and the walk up to the ground reminded me of 60's & 70's when Villa used to mainly travel by train
Pity the players didn't read the script and put on a decent show for the Irish support that was there in large numbers
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 25, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: "clampy"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
The crossbar challenge at half time was funny!
I don't remember that. Bloody hell, i must have drunk more than i thought.
You don't remember the dude with long hair taking a run skip and jump before taking his kick? The whole ground erupted in laughter!
I am thrilled that those who travelled from Britain had a great time. Hats off to the chair of the Irish Lions for organising such a wonderful weekend for everybody. Murray's was indeed packed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on July 26, 2010, 08:28:55 AM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Quote from: "clampy"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
The crossbar challenge at half time was funny!
I don't remember that. Bloody hell, i must have drunk more than i thought.
You don't remember the dude with long hair taking a run skip and jump before taking his kick? The whole ground erupted in laughter!
I am thrilled that those who travelled from Britain had a great time. Hats off to the chair of the Irish Lions for organising such a wonderful weekend for everybody. Murray's was indeed packed.
I vaguely remember some sort of half time entertainment on the pitch.
Yeah, it was a great day. The Irish fans we spoke to in Murray's were good lads and very welcoming. Yeah, it was superbly organised, the pub was rocking before the game and the sing song outside before the walk up was really good.
Same again next year hopefully.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 26, 2010, 03:31:05 PM
So what do we think the team against Feyenoord on Saturday will be? I suppose it all depends on whether Milner goes, and if Ireland comes the other way.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 26, 2010, 05:32:46 PM
v Feyenoord Sat July 31st 9:15pm Sport TV1 (Streams)
v Benfica Sun Aug 1st 9:15pm Sport TV1
v Valencia Fri Aug 6th 7:45pm ITV 4
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: wozwebs on July 26, 2010, 06:30:18 PM
Just saw that the Valencia game is on ITV4, bonus that.
Wonder how that will affect the attendance?
No wonder Villa haven't mentioned the fact
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 26, 2010, 06:41:44 PM
Nice. I'll watch it on the TV then. ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 26, 2010, 08:40:43 PM
Me too.
Any idea what sort of team we'll put out at Walsall tommorrow?
Maybe likes of Guzan and Warnock now they're back will get a run out?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 26, 2010, 09:00:39 PM
I was thinking of going to Walsall tomorrow night.
Anyone know the price?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
£12 for adults.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 26, 2010, 09:02:25 PM
£12. Was it that difficult to look on the club website?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on July 27, 2010, 01:06:58 PM
just spoke to Walsall fc as tickets at Villa have sold out, and Walsall advised that 2k tickets are available on the turnstiles for the villa end...
hope its going to be a good game
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: liam on July 27, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
i nipped down the bescot at lunch time and purchased 3 tickets they said they had allocsted a part of the stand that joins whee the villa fans are (behind the goal) Not got a great record against Walsall ovwer the years in these pre season games...sure I saw Jon fashanua play there when he joined, but it may be the mind playing tricks
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 27, 2010, 07:40:17 PM
They just gave some team news on SSN. They mentioned Freidel, Davies, Sidwell, Albrighton, Carew, Beye, Collins, Weimann as starters.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
Beye, Shorey, Davies, Reo-Coker and Sidwell an opportunity to impress?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 07:48:18 PM
And the teams are out.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 27, 2010, 07:50:57 PM
Ginger Colley on SSN news reckons Weimann will play in midfield and Bannon on the right wing. He's meant to be the man who knows about Villa isn't he?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on July 27, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
any streams?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 27, 2010, 07:52:15 PM
So we haven't seen the last of Sidwell?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 07:52:19 PM
so 4-5-1 again. I'm a big fan of that formation. I'd like 4-2-3-1 at home.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 07:52:59 PM
Collins injured
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on July 27, 2010, 07:55:02 PM
First Villa touch of the ball, according to SSN.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Cuellar on. Good Albrighton cross poor Sidwell header
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 27, 2010, 07:56:19 PM
Salifou on the bench,thought he'd gone.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
We've mostly filled two stands
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 27, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
Is it 4-4-2 or someone playing off Carew?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 27, 2010, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
We've mostly filled two stands
Any anti Milner chants?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:04:54 PM
Albrighton looking sharp
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 27, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
How we playing? I was going to go but couldn't be arsed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:07:27 PM
Superb save Friedel
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:09:49 PM
Lovely Bannan ball sliced wide by Weimann
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
More good Bannan work Carew header over
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
More good Bannan work Carew header over
Dave, where are you following this?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 27, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
More good Bannan work Carew header over
Dave, where are you following this?
Bescot I would imagine.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:16:57 PM
1 0 Weimann
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 08:17:50 PM
Get in there Bill!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 27, 2010, 08:18:19 PM
Pete Colley thought Bannan had forced an og?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 27, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
cannot find a live stream - any clues
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:21:02 PM
Good work from Carew Weimann deflected header
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 08:21:07 PM
Live text commentary here (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/ClubNewsDetail/0,,10265~2103559,00.html).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on July 27, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
just saw goal on SSN
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2010, 08:24:40 PM
Hopefully Dave won't find out until after the game that he'll have to pay for his GSM service on his mobile.
Keep them coming, big fella.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ColinMac on July 27, 2010, 08:24:47 PM
Just shown the goal on SSN, great work by Carew.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Carew header wide Albrighton good cross again
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:31:16 PM
Bannan looking good
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 27, 2010, 08:31:45 PM
Strange that all the boys are wearing their squad numbers and Weimann has #9.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 08:32:20 PM
He's reinvigorated, the wee man.
Oh yes, and the black kit looks ace.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
Davies limping
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 08:36:00 PM
I am very encouraged about our kids. Dismiss their potential impact at your peril. Add in some good new faces and we could be stronger than last year.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
1 min added Davies recovered
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 27, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I am very encouraged about our kids. Dismiss their potential impact at your peril. Add in some good new faces and we could be stronger than last year.
I have been on a downer all close season - but hearing that gives me a boner
Bring on the babbies
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 27, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
PC reckons Carew is unplayable. Would be great if he could hit the ground running
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 27, 2010, 08:40:34 PM
I would be happy for O'Neill to dump shit like Heskey, Salifou, and Beye and greedy shits like Milner (no matter how good) and give the likes of Albrighton, Lihaj, Weimann, and Delfouneso a chance. Even if we finish below last seasons position.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:43:01 PM
Bannan and Albrighton are very impressive. Davies isn't.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: "Hookeysmith"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I am very encouraged about our kids. Dismiss their potential impact at your peril. Add in some good new faces and we could be stronger than last year.
I have been on a downer all close season - but hearing that gives me a boner
Bring on the babbies
Just think, the best of the bunch - The Fonz isn't even playing. There's one or two lads who will make an impact this year. As for being on a downer, there's no point. We take our sweet time signing players every summer under MON. You know by August 31st there wil be lots of business done. So relax and enjoy the kids tonight and on the tour.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 27, 2010, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "Hookeysmith"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I am very encouraged about our kids. Dismiss their potential impact at your peril. Add in some good new faces and we could be stronger than last year.
I have been on a downer all close season - but hearing that gives me a boner
Bring on the babbies
Just think, the best of the bunch - The Fonz isn't even playing. There's one or two lads who will make an impact this year. As for being on a downer, there's no point. We take our sweet time signing players every summer under MON. You know by August 31st there wil be lots of business done. So relax and enjoy the kids tonight and on the tour.
Would love to see the Fonz,Albrighton and Bannan get a run of games.The Fonz looks like he has more about him than Heskey,likewise Albrighton than Downing.Bannan cant be as bad as Sidwell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 27, 2010, 08:55:15 PM
Beye and Shorey off at HT
Lowry ánd Lichaj on
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 08:56:21 PM
Lowry and Lichaj for Beye and Shorey
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:01:29 PM
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
What? What? What?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ColinMac on July 27, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
Maybe they will consider a swap for Johnson.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: andyh on July 27, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
However much they offer, it will be a bargain for them. Good enough for Liverpool but not for Villa...oh dear.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:04:51 PM
Cuellar miss from close range
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on July 27, 2010, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
a good defender. Im not surprised liverpool want him. id be sad to see him go
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ColinMac on July 27, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: "andyh"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
However much they offer, it will be a bargain for them. Good enough for Liverpool but not for Villa...oh dear.
Or maybe he would prefer sitting on their bench rather than ours.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:06:35 PM
Jovial banter between the fans
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
mmmm interesting
maybe Rafa has bid £20m for Johnson and if they can pick Luke up for 3m its great business
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on July 27, 2010, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: "ColinMac"
Quote from: "andyh"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
However much they offer, it will be a bargain for them. Good enough for Liverpool but not for Villa...oh dear.
Or maybe he would prefer sitting on their bench rather than ours.
i would!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:08:30 PM
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:11:41 PM
Weimann managed to hit the post from a yard out
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
Walsall hit bar and miss open follow up
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
Get in there Bill, again.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2010, 09:16:06 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 09:16:12 PM
Two-nil. Weimann zwei.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:16:23 PM
2 0 Weimann
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 27, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Mon can't resist playing players out of position can he?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Mon can't resist playing players out of position can he?
He's a winger and should be able to play both sides. Besides, he looked great on the left in Ireland, setting up Carew's goal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
Clark Salifou on for Davies Reo Coker
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 27, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
Is Salifou on a rolling contract?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
so he's going to change post codes but ultimately end up doing exactly the same thing? A reserve RB sometimes playing as a LB.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:20:24 PM
I'm telling you, Albrighton is the man.
Well, one of several.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
Dan AVFC: Tonight's attendance - 5,735. Away support - 3,013.
According to O/S.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 27, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
so he's going to change post codes but ultimately end up doing exactly the same thing? A reserve RB sometimes playing as a LB.
I don't suppose he cares as long as he's away from the Villa
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Clark Salifou on for Davies Reo Coker
Ciaran Clark's growth will be the death of Davies.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 27, 2010, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I'm telling you, Albrighton is the man.
Well, one of several.
Do you think they can cut it at prem level?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
Parish and Hogg for Friedel and Albrighton attendance 5735 we brought 3013
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2010, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
so he's going to change post codes but ultimately end up doing exactly the same thing? A reserve RB sometimes playing as a LB.
mmmmm im sure the above says play Luke as RB an Johnson as RW and Luke to cover LB in an emergency
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
2-1
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
2 1 Nicholls
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
so he's going to change post codes but ultimately end up doing exactly the same thing? A reserve RB sometimes playing as a LB.
No as I stated he'd be a short term solution at right back if they try Glen Johnson on the wing. I mean being able to defend is a big thing for a full back and Johnson cannot do it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
2-1.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
Good choice. It's what I'd do in Roy's situation. Get L. Young as a stop gap on the cheap as he's a good all round right back and move Johnson to the wing.
Good call
and as they dont have a left back, he can cover there too
so he's going to change post codes but ultimately end up doing exactly the same thing? A reserve RB sometimes playing as a LB.
No as I stated he'd be a short term solution at right back if they try Glen Johnson on the wing. I mean being able to defend is a big thing for a full back and Johnson cannot do it.
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:30:08 PM
Defence still a bit shaky
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: "andyh"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Heard Liverpool have bid for Luke Young
However much they offer, it will be a bargain for them. Good enough for Liverpool but not for Villa...oh dear.
Not being a great Luke fan, I would take it as a sign of how far they have fallen actually...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 27, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I'm telling you, Albrighton is the man.
Well, one of several.
Do you think they can cut it at prem level?
Some of them, I would say so. Maybe as many as 5 or 6.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on July 27, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I'm telling you, Albrighton is the man.
Well, one of several.
Do you think they can cut it at prem level?
Some of them, I would say so. Maybe as many as 5 or 6.
I suppose there is only one way to know. I would be happy to see more kids feature next season. Man U did it
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:34:49 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
True. I don't really think they have bid for Luke but with Johnson's attacking ability it would be a reasonable idea if they did.
Unless of course Johnson's off to Inter as linked a while back and Luke is merely the bargain replacement.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:37:14 PM
Walsall have a smaller player than Bannan
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
Are you sure it's not the mascot?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Walsall have a smaller player than Bannan
is he orange?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:38:10 PM
Luke is solid. Ive seen several better right backs at Villa though. I reckon Mr Lichaj could be one of them.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 27, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
We 2-1 down?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OldUser on July 27, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
No, up. NICE.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
We 2-1 down?
Up.
Weimann twice.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 27, 2010, 09:38:55 PM
2-1 up. Weimann with both.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2010, 09:39:03 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
True. I don't really think they have bid for Luke but with Johnson's attacking ability it would be a reasonable idea if they did.
Unless of course Johnson's off to Inter as linked a while back and Luke is merely the bargain replacement.
Well if they sell Johnson for £20m an get Luke for £3 its brillliant work in the market by Hodgson
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
We 2-1 down?
Up.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
Off the line by Cuellar 2 mins added
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Yep, agree. He's a serviceable full back. I still think he should have been given more playing time, especially when you consider his fee. But he doesn't come close to some of the full backs we've had over the years.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 27, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
There was an article in today's Mail about Lichaj, saying that Luke Young has been mentoring him. Pulling him up in training if he is doing something wrong and telling him what he needs to look at in his game. He sounds like a great pro and I think that wherever he goes the fans will take to him quickly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 27, 2010, 09:40:38 PM
For me Albrighton and Bannan are good enough to push for places. Makes more sense then getting Bentley and McGeady. The Fonz is likely to get more exposure next season and I also think Lichaj will be cover for the fullback positions. Weimann should go out on loan to a decent Champs club and if we keep Davies then Clark should have a season of regular 1st team football.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2010, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
What even better than Tommy Wright and Keith Bradley?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2010, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Make it a minority of two, Richard, I'm with you on this. I think he gets sucked out of position to easily and goes to ground too readily. I also think he's no better than competent going forward, and that he's hardly a young player going to improve either. Cuellar offers us more defensively than Luke Young does in attack (and certainly in defence), so I can see exactly the thinking behind MON's team selection.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
True. I don't really think they have bid for Luke but with Johnson's attacking ability it would be a reasonable idea if they did.
Unless of course Johnson's off to Inter as linked a while back and Luke is merely the bargain replacement.
Well if they sell Johnson for £20m an get Luke for £3 its brillliant work in the market by Hodgson
Do you honestly believe anyone will pay that much for Glen Johnson? I was bowled over when the supposedly broke Liverpool did to begin with. Benitez was mugged.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
And a useful squad run out
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 27, 2010, 09:42:52 PM
Nice to see a young striker bagging a brace
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on July 27, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Earl Barrett, Mark Delaney, John Gidman, Kenny Swain, Gary Williams, just a few who were far far better.
LY reminds me of Kevin Gage, some like him,some don't....average for me, won't be a great loss and if we get £2/3m great.
I don't know why, but i really like the look of Weimann.Have only seen glimpses, but he always looks like scoring to me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 27, 2010, 09:44:44 PM
I dont even think Man City would pay more than £12m for Glen Johnson.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:44:59 PM
Memories are made of Bobby McDonald, John Robson, John Gidman, Kenny Swain, Colin Gibson, Gary Williams, Earl Barrett, Alan Wright, Gary Charles, Fernando Nelson....and, yes, I realise they weren't all right backs!
Oh yes, and Gagey!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 27, 2010, 09:45:35 PM
Is Weimann just back from the U-19s tournament?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
True. I don't really think they have bid for Luke but with Johnson's attacking ability it would be a reasonable idea if they did.
Unless of course Johnson's off to Inter as linked a while back and Luke is merely the bargain replacement.
Well if they sell Johnson for £20m an get Luke for £3 its brillliant work in the market by Hodgson
Do you honestly believe anyone will pay that much for Glen Johnson? I was bowled over when the supposedly broke Liverpool did to begin with. Benitez was mugged.
Yes i do........Benitez rates him highly and he needs to replace Maicon
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
I don't think they'll play their 20 million pound full back on the wing. He's also currently the England full back and he'll want to play in his natural position. Especially now as everyone is under the microscope.
True. I don't really think they have bid for Luke but with Johnson's attacking ability it would be a reasonable idea if they did.
Unless of course Johnson's off to Inter as linked a while back and Luke is merely the bargain replacement.
Well if they sell Johnson for £20m an get Luke for £3 its brillliant work in the market by Hodgson
Do you honestly believe anyone will pay that much for Glen Johnson? I was bowled over when the supposedly broke Liverpool did to begin with. Benitez was mugged.
I said the same thing when someone said Mascherano wasn't worth £25million. There is one man stupid enough to pay £18million for Johnson and his present right back might be off to Real Madrid.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Memories are made of Bobby McDonald, John Robson, John Gidman, Kenny Swain, Colin Gibson, Gary Williams, Earl Barrett, Alan Wright, Gary Charles, Fernando Nelson....and, yes, I realise they weren't all right backs!
Oh yes, and Gagey!
I'd throw bald bullet Chrissy Price into the mix also.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2010, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
I don't know why, but i really like the look of Weimann.Have only seen glimpses, but he always looks like scoring to me.
Me too. He's got this kind of aura that talented young players sometimes have. It might be his balance and his movement off the ball, they're both really very good indeed for his age.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Make it a minority of two, Richard, I'm with you on this. I think he gets sucked out of position to easily and goes to ground too readily. I also think he's no better than competent going forward, and that he's hardly a young player going to improve either. Cuellar offers us more defensively than Luke Young does in attack (and certainly in defence), so I can see exactly the thinking behind MON's team selection.
His lack of ability as an attacking full back came as a real shock to me as I had somehow got hold of the idea he was excellent going forward. I've seen him offer barely anything in that department. Huge disappointment all round for me...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
I wouldn't say he's bad, is Luke, but I think his absence has made Villan's hearts fonder on this one. If he were to suddenly jump in ahead of Cuellar, many regulars at VP would be noticing his lack of positioning sense.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
I don't know why, but i really like the look of Weimann.Have only seen glimpses, but he always looks like scoring to me.
Me too. He's got this kind of aura that talented young players sometimes have. It might be his balance and his movement off the ball, they're both really very good indeed for his age.
Yes, thirded. I saw him come on this time last year in the second half against Colchester in a friendly and he completely transformed the game, scoring our first goal when we were two down and just upping the tempo all round with his pace and movement. That was the same Colchester who put five past Norwich away a couple of weeks later...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 27, 2010, 09:51:39 PM
The issue for me with Luke Young is not really that he's Cafu or even Maicon. It's that he's a decent enough solid pro in a position where there are very few decent players going wrong.
Our best option is to give Lichaj a chance probably.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 27, 2010, 09:52:31 PM
I think Lichaj has the potential to be good, hopefully he'll come on this season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 27, 2010, 09:52:47 PM
Luke deserves a move to anfield and Im sure they will appreciate him-another o neill cock up I'm afraid!
Our loss would be Liverpool gain.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 27, 2010, 09:54:48 PM
Anyone Been following the game on sky sports news? How gorgeous does millie clode look in that top?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: "east19"
Anyone Been following the game on sky sports news? How gorgeous does millie clode look in that top?
How about out of it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 27, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
Quote from: "east19"
Anyone Been following the game on sky sports news? How gorgeous does millie clode look in that top?
Right, I shall be there for the 10pm SSN headlines! Believe it or not, my wife thinks our daughter looks just like Millie Clode....and don't start PM'ing me you lot!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 27, 2010, 09:59:36 PM
That Mail article
Quote
ROOKIE right-back Eric Lichaj has hailed Luke Young as a perfect role model as he prepares to take the unwanted defender’s place again at Walsall tonight.
With Young still in Martin O’Neill’s bad books, and Curtis Davies and James Collins carrying knocks, Lichaj is expected to continue in the No.2 position this evening.
The American youngster has started Villa’s friendlies at Basingstoke, Peterborough and Bohemians and given encouraging glimpses of his potential.
And Lichaj has thanked Villa’s senior defenders for their support, particularly transfer listed Young, who was left out of last week’s trip to Ireland.
Young has been training with Villa at Bodymoor Heath, but has been left on the periphery during pre-season as he seeks a move away from Villa Park.
Luke Young helps me a lot,” said Lichaj. “He talks to me a lot so that is good. Him and Nicky Shorey.
“We played the other Sunday at Basingstoke,. I was playing centre back and they were just telling me different stuff during the game.
“In training if Luke Young is by me and I do something wrong, he would just correct me a little bit in different things.
“It is nice to have someone like that supporting you.”
Lichaj also revealed that he is studying Villa’s central defensive duo Richard Dunne and Collins for tips on improving his heading.
“I can play central defence if I really need to as well but sometimes I am not as good in the air as other people,” said Lichaj.
“Of course I’ve been working on that with Richard Dunne and James Collins, but it is hard to compare because they are three or four inches taller than me as well!”
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on July 27, 2010, 10:06:23 PM
Sounds promising. I wonder if Man City want him? £15m.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 10:15:31 PM
Collins calf injury not serious but probably not going to Portugal
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on July 27, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Memories are made of Bobby McDonald, John Robson, John Gidman, Kenny Swain, Colin Gibson, Gary Williams, Earl Barrett, Alan Wright, Gary Charles, Fernando Nelson....and, yes, I realise they weren't all right backs!
Oh yes, and Gagey!
And me main man, Dariusz Kubicki.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 27, 2010, 10:29:19 PM
Good run out tonight and we played som nice football, albeit against an average Walsall side. I've always thought him capable but Albrighton was superb, he annihilated both their fullbacks time after time and his final ball is excellent. Bannan and Weimann were both very good, the latter has excellent movement and a natural instinct.
Carew was awesome, although a little greedy at times. Looks very sharp and fit. Sidwell was more involved than I've ever seen him in a Villa game and showed a bit of quality at times.
Defensively we looked pretty shakey.
Was O'Neill there? I couldn't see him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2010, 10:32:17 PM
Albrighton and Bannan impressed. Carew was superb. Good little run out. Friendly natives.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 27, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
Collins getting injured 10 seconds after kick off was the quickest injury I've ever seen, wierd one.
Davies still looked dodgy to me, Lichaj had a decent game against Jones.
Albrighton was excellent, one lovely cross to Sidwell early on. He can't do more than have another good pre season so up to MON to trust him with more minutes in the league.
Wiemann could've had more than two goals. Not sure his overall game is up to scratch yet so would expect him to go out on loan shortly.
Decent night.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2010, 10:38:34 PM
I think Collins was carrying an injury. His lower leg was strapped up. I was two rows back from the front right in the corner where it happened. He looked rather disgruntled as he removed his shinpad.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Comedy moment of the night: One rather large Villa fan being removed from the pitch at half-time by around about 6 stewards, 2 of which proceeded to fall over the hoardings as they carried him off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 27, 2010, 10:47:11 PM
Another comedy moment was when the Walsall PA was telling the Villa fans to sit down because they were blocking the view for Kids. Just wanted him to shout out "Just think of the Children!!!"
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
Quote from: "Legion"
Albrighton and Bannan impressed. Carew was superb. Good little run out. Friendly natives.
Interesting that Carew looks so sharp. I've said many times, give him the service and he'll look brilliant. If crosses meant for his had are going into the Holte, then he has every right to look disinterested and pissed off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on July 27, 2010, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Mon can't resist playing players out of position can he?
Was MON actually there tonight I couldn't see him
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 27, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: "VILLALWAYS"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Mon can't resist playing players out of position can he?
Was MON actually there tonight I couldn't see him
I don't know, but Albrighton was excellent on the left too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
Albrighton was man of the match without question, but Bannan ran him close. I'd have been concerned if Carew hadn't been as good as he was given the opposition. Reo Coker, Sidwell & Shorey were okayish but Davies looked at home....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2010, 11:43:11 PM
I thought the word was that Bannan had no future at Villa? If that was the case, then I hope he's changed MON's mind, he's got real talent.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
I thought the word was that Bannan had no future at Villa? If that was the case, then I hope he's changed MON's mind, he's got real talent.
As the Percy next to me said, "Stick him out on loan then ask yourself if you'd sign him."
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2010, 11:45:53 PM
That's a good way to put it. Judged on his football at Blackpool, I might just, but on his off-field antics I'd have my doubts. I agree, give him another loan.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 27, 2010, 11:48:38 PM
If we sell him now we'd be lucky to get a £1million. Let him have a season at Blackpool and we'll either see him come into his own and prove he's worth a shot or he'll show he's not and we can move him on for a similar amount.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2010, 11:50:43 PM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
If we sell him now we'd be lucky to get a £1million. Let him have a season at Blackpool and we'll either see him come into his own and prove he's worth a shot or he'll show he's not and we can move him on for a similar amount.
I doubt we'd get anything much for a untried Premier League cast-off (which is what he'd be). A loan spell until January at least.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on July 27, 2010, 11:55:31 PM
Pissed off that Millie's shift had ended by the time I saw the posts about her looking gorgeous.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 28, 2010, 12:16:29 AM
One thing that's been overlooked is Freidel's good saves on occasions.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on July 28, 2010, 12:20:05 AM
Have you heard anything about Donavon tonight Dave?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 28, 2010, 12:23:41 AM
Quote from: "bigad82"
Have you heard anything about Donavon tonight Dave?
Nothing. Isn't one exclusive per match good enough for you?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 12:26:15 AM
Landon Donovan? Why, who has said anything about him?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on July 28, 2010, 12:26:46 AM
Just something I was told,I should know better.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 12:28:14 AM
You may as well spit it out now mate.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on July 28, 2010, 12:36:10 AM
The chap that told me books cars for VIP's and said his agent was in Brum.I wouldn't know a football agent if he smacked me on the arse.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on July 28, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
Jesus. We're getting desperate now when we're going by upmarket taxi drivers :0).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 28, 2010, 12:45:58 AM
Quote from: "VILLALWAYS"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Good run and shot from Albrighton now on the left.
Mon can't resist playing players out of position can he?
Was MON actually there tonight I couldn't see him
yes he was
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 28, 2010, 12:51:13 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Monty"
I thought the word was that Bannan had no future at Villa? If that was the case, then I hope he's changed MON's mind, he's got real talent.
As the Percy next to me said, "Stick him out on loan then ask yourself if you'd sign him."
It didn't do Gary Cahill any good.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 28, 2010, 12:52:24 AM
Oooh, Donovan would be nice.
How gay does that read?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: usav on July 28, 2010, 01:19:07 AM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Landon Donovan? Why, who has said anything about him?
Not a hope chaps.
Let's put this to bed now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 28, 2010, 01:26:03 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "bigad82"
Have you heard anything about Donavon tonight Dave?
Nothing. Isn't one exclusive per match good enough for you?
You might as well try to catch the wind.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on July 28, 2010, 02:12:22 AM
In the post-match interview on avtv MON said Bananaman played well but ''it's a pity he's 3ft 3''... ''.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 28, 2010, 02:16:42 AM
Not been much hype about Weimann but he seems to keep doing the stuff and MON seems to rate him.
Reckon he might be nearer the first team squad this season?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 28, 2010, 07:04:47 AM
Just watched the goals. How on earth did Pete Colley think the first goal was an OG forced by Barry Bannan?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 28, 2010, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Not been much hype about Weimann but he seems to keep doing the stuff and MON seems to rate him.
Reckon he might be nearer the first team squad this season?
Weimann hasnt had the buzz around him that Fonz has had but he's been highly regarded for a year or two now and he had a fantastic year last year in the reserves.
The encouraging thing about him is that he's an instinctive goalscorer. He seems to know where to be and how to finish, and also how to link play. When he plays with Fonz they look like a hell of a partnership.
I can honestly say he will defintely make it at Villa like I believe Fonz and Albrighton will but if he carries on improving as he has done there's every chance. A year ago I would have said 50/50. Now its more like 75/25.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on July 28, 2010, 08:56:52 AM
Any links to the highlights?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 28, 2010, 09:08:23 AM
Double post. Sorry.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 28, 2010, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Make it a minority of two, Richard, I'm with you on this. I think he gets sucked out of position to easily and goes to ground too readily. I also think he's no better than competent going forward, and that he's hardly a young player going to improve either. Cuellar offers us more defensively than Luke Young does in attack (and certainly in defence), so I can see exactly the thinking behind MON's team selection.
I am 24! For me he was competing with the likes of Steve Watson, Gary Charles, Fernando Nelson, Mark Delaney(who I rate very highly) and the various centre backs (and midfielders) MON has deployed in the position.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 28, 2010, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
I'll never understand MON's treatment of Luke Young. One of the best right backs I've seen at villa.
Not sure how old you are Irish so do forgive me, but he would be way down my list. He wouldn't even make the top 5. But then I'm no great fan of Luke Young, think he is hugely over-rated. Realise I am in a minority of one in thinking that mind you!
Make it a minority of two, Richard, I'm with you on this. I think he gets sucked out of position to easily and goes to ground too readily. I also think he's no better than competent going forward, and that he's hardly a young player going to improve either. Cuellar offers us more defensively than Luke Young does in attack (and certainly in defence), so I can see exactly the thinking behind MON's team selection.
I am 24! For me he was competing with the likes of Steve Watson, Gary Charles, Fernando Nelson, Mark Delaney(who I rate very highly) and the various centre backs (and midfielders) MON has deployed in the position.
Ah, well that gives me some context Irish. Lucky you, I wish I was 24 again but the advantage of being an old git is I did manage to see the likes of Gidman in the flesh...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on July 28, 2010, 09:22:17 AM
Lucky you richard, you saw some true greats...hopefully I will too one day...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 28, 2010, 10:59:31 AM
Aston Villa coach (their only one) Steve Walford has just returned from a three month study of European coaching methods. Steve spent time in Barcelona, Turin and at the famous footballing academy of Sporting Clube de Portugal, a club that have produced such home grown stars as Figo, Rui Costa and Cristiano Ronaldo.
When asked if he was to adopt any of the methods of the foreign coaches, Steve replied "Since I've returned to England, the first thing I did was to throw away all my socks".
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 29, 2010, 12:59:09 PM
Aston Villa coach (their only one) Steve Walford has just returned from a three month study of European coaching methods. Steve spent time in Barcelona, Turin and at the famous footballing academy of Sporting Clube de Portugal, a club that have produced such home grown stars as Figo, Rui Costa and Cristiano Ronaldo.
When asked if he was to adopt any of the methods of the foreign coaches, Steve replied "Since I've returned to England, the first thing I did was to throw away all my socks".
Totally fucking brilliant Sir
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 29, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 29, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
He was outside the entrance of the Bescot on tuesday signing autographs before the game.
Pen in one hand, fag in the other!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 29, 2010, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
He was outside the entrance of the Bescot on tuesday signing autographs before the game.
Pen in one hand, fag in the other!
The "John Robertson" effect...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 29, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
For those folks that have actually been to some of the pre-season friendlies:
Have the team lined up in anything other than a 442 so far. Just wondering whether we can look forward to seeing some different tactics this season.
Before people use this question as an excuse to deride MON some more, I'm pretty sure he played 352 at Leicester and we played 433 for spell a while back so it is possible that he could change...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 29, 2010, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: "Dante Lavelli"
For those folks that have actually been to some of the pre-season friendlies:
Have the team lined up in anything other than a 442 so far. Just wondering whether we can look forward to seeing some different tactics this season.
Before people use this question as an excuse to deride MON some more, I'm pretty sure he played 352 at Leicester and we played 433 for spell a while back so it is possible that he could change...
He played a sort of 4-4-1-1 against Peterborough. Finished the game against Walsall with the same formation too. I don't think we can read too much into it though. I can't see him changing his ways.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on July 29, 2010, 09:49:35 PM
I see Spurs are getting spanked 4-1 at home to Villareal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on July 29, 2010, 10:18:12 PM
Yep, Rossi hat trick. Would be an excellent signing for us I think, a better option than Robbie Keane
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: exigo on July 29, 2010, 10:50:23 PM
And Chelsea turned over 5-1 by the European powerhouse, Wycombe Wanderers.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on July 29, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
That's a bit out of order if you ask me and not very funny. Still each to his own.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 29, 2010, 11:44:50 PM
zzzzz
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 29, 2010, 11:47:55 PM
It is out of order, agreed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 29, 2010, 11:51:33 PM
That pic has been doing the rounds on the internet for the last 10 years. Its considered meme now.
Come on, Salifou is doing a good job of replicating that image. Yes, I'm a very naughty man etc...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 29, 2010, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
That pic has been doing the rounds on the internet for the last 10 years. Its considered meme now.
Come on, Salifou is doing a good job of replicating that image. Yes, I'm a very naughty man etc...
Rape has been doing the rounds for a lot longer but it's still not funny.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on July 30, 2010, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
That pic has been doing the rounds on the internet for the last 10 years. Its considered meme now.
Come on, Salifou is doing a good job of replicating that image. Yes, I'm a very naughty man etc...
Rape has been doing the rounds for a lot longer but it's still not funny.
I hope nobody is suggesting I think it is. I just thought Salifou looked like the guy off that pic in that particular instance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on July 30, 2010, 06:08:28 AM
The Fonz, back from the U-19s, is on our flight. What a nice bloke.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 30, 2010, 08:18:51 AM
When is the 1st game in the algarve, any kick off times?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2010, 10:41:30 AM
31 Sat 21:15 v Feyenoord
1 Sun 21:15 v Benfica
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on July 30, 2010, 12:08:16 PM
Did i hear that one of these in on tv? Or am I imagining it...?
edit...no that was the home game wasn't it later on...doh
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rob Gee on July 30, 2010, 02:05:49 PM
Someone did say they were on foreign TV somehwere though and therefore might be being streamed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on July 30, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: "avfcpg"
Did i hear that one of these in on tv? Or am I imagining it...?
edit...no that was the home game wasn't it later on...doh
Yeah - the home game against Valencia next Friday is live on ITV4
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 30, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Quote from: "avfcpg"
Did i hear that one of these in on tv? Or am I imagining it...?
edit...no that was the home game wasn't it later on...doh
Yeah - the home game against Valencia next Friday is live on ITV4
Thanks for that CJ, definite date in the diary, my family will be pleased to be watching the Villa on a Friday evening!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 30, 2010, 07:33:18 PM
Thank you !
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on July 30, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Friendly against Walsall. Friedel was awesome. And people are writing him off. Joke ...............
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on July 30, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Benfica 0 -1 Feyenoord after 3 minutes.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2010, 10:00:33 PM
It looks like both teams have put out their strongest sides so we could end up playing against Feyenoord's and Benfica's reserves.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2010, 10:50:29 PM
3-1 to Benfica with 15 minutes to go.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2010, 11:10:21 PM
4-1 FT. Now they're having a penalty shoot out!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 31, 2010, 07:21:54 AM
Tonights game will be streamed online.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Tonights game will be streamed online.
Where ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: march on July 31, 2010, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Tonights game will be streamed online.
Where ?
being advertised on iraqgoals
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 31, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
My advise would be to download Veetle, which is both safe and free, not to mention quality imaging. There's somebody over here that streams all the games shown here, so I assume he'll be streaming both games, as they're live on cable here.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: DB on July 31, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
Ok Mr O'Neill just been up to Villa Park to get some footy shorts in the sale and ended up re-newing my ST, but decided to move from the Witton upper to Holte lower (hope it's good!), so please get spme decent players in, ta.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: atomicjam on July 31, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
Villastreams is saying its on their site... it does cost £1.75 for 24 hours use but is usually good quality.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on July 31, 2010, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: "DB"
Ok Mr O'Neill just been up to Villa Park to get some footy shorts in the sale and ended up re-newing my ST, but decided to move from the Witton upper to Holte lower (hope it's good!), so please get spme decent players in, ta.
How much were the shorts? I need some for the gym and five a side.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 31, 2010, 05:49:44 PM
If anybody wants to test the Veetle stream for tonight and tomorrow...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: supertom on July 31, 2010, 06:52:36 PM
What time does it kick off?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on July 31, 2010, 06:52:52 PM
9:15pm
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rob Gee on July 31, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
Veetle working nicely, year on year the availability of games online and the quality of the streams has improved, I can't imagine you'll struggle to see any game this season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on July 31, 2010, 08:10:33 PM
Any early team news ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 31, 2010, 08:22:26 PM
None of the new signings are available tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: "Dazvillain"
Any early team news ?
Cuellar seems to think he's playing at centre half tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
similar. I think we'll play 2 holding midfield players with 2 wide. Ash would be in a free role, so a more rigid 4-5-1 defensively perhaps, but a more versatile system going forward
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: march on July 31, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
like the formation a lot, my preferred one
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 09:02:58 PM
As SoccerHQ has said a couple of times, I still fully expect us to line up 4-4-2 against West Ham.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
As SoccerHQ has said a couple of times, I still fully expect us to line up 4-4-2 against West Ham.
I don't think the tests with new formations though should be dismissed. I hope/think that MON knows that something needs to change at home. It will be interesting to see our shape in the home game vs Valencia.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
As SoccerHQ has said a couple of times, I still fully expect us to line up 4-4-2 against West Ham.
Me too. Good to know that another formation exists though, should we need it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Is their any UK radio commentary for the game?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: supertom on July 31, 2010, 09:11:21 PM
Hopefully we'll see Petrov pacing himself more throughout the match. That's why I like to see Nigel alongside, so he can provide the energy. Stan's quality, so we need him lasting 90.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
Good stream on iraqgoals so far, mind you these streams always start ok!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: supertom on July 31, 2010, 09:13:01 PM
Beautiful stream. I'd like to take it out for a steak dinner, woo it, romance it, ply it with booze, chocs and flowers, and then give it a ruddy good seeing to, before departing it's apartment in the morning under cover of misty morn.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
Big crowd...ahem!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:14:29 PM
big crowd tonight
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
Is snow expected at some point during the evening?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
Though I can hear a rendition of 'Holte Enders In The Sky'..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:18:10 PM
that 2nd division pitch looks in solid end of season shape
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
1-0 what a goal, Albrighton!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 09:19:16 PM
I quite like the orange ball Toronto!
...holy smokes - because it just flew in! lol
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:19:31 PM
SCREAMER -ALBRIGHTON
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:19:43 PM
Fantastic shot, good work by NRC to win it in the first place too
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on July 31, 2010, 09:20:01 PM
great strike!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on July 31, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
great goal
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 09:20:31 PM
What a great goal - a midfielder shooting at goal whatever happens next?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:20:45 PM
Albrighton is absolutely on fire this summer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on July 31, 2010, 09:20:51 PM
That, boys, was out of the top fucking draw....I have just let a bit of wee out.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: supertom on July 31, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
The lads quality. Hope to see plenty of him this season. Albrighton for England! ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
Boof! Eat my goal...Ladies and gentlemen we have a new 1st team right winger!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on July 31, 2010, 09:21:14 PM
stan flying in there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Fantastic shot, good work by NRC to win it in the first place too
Yes, agreed. He did what we all know he's very good at and then gave it up to a more creative player.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on July 31, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
on 2nd thoughts, you reckon Hangdog Harry is reaching for the cheque book?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 09:25:14 PM
Guzan aside, I think this might well be out line up vs West Ham. Only other change might be Collins in for Beye and the obvious shift arounf that comes with that!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 09:25:51 PM
Love the fact you can hear Guzan where ever the play is on the fiels, swearing liek a trooper too!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:27:56 PM
1-1, walked through our defence
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:28:35 PM
Balls. Sloppy defending
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Love the fact you can hear Guzan where ever the play is on the fiels, swearing liek a trooper too!
Yes, shame he can't get to a fairly weak shot at his near post mind you..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 09:29:10 PM
That was easy!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Love the fact you can hear Guzan where ever the play is on the fiels, swearing liek a trooper too!
Yes, shame he can't get to a fairly weak shot at his near post mind you..
Would have been a good save at that range though Richard. Mind you, probably should have been meno to them just before with Warnock's challenge. Either way, it was poor to give the winger that much room.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Love the fact you can hear Guzan where ever the play is on the fiels, swearing liek a trooper too!
Yes, shame he can't get to a fairly weak shot at his near post mind you..
Would have been a good save at that range though Richard. Mind you, probably should have been meno to them just before with Warnock's challenge. Either way, it was poor to give the winger that much room.
Yes, true TV, fancy Warnock diving in eh! Not seen that before....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 09:32:59 PM
our crossing has been bollocks so far. Both corners wasted
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 09:34:04 PM
i am on Downing watch, lets add up his positive contributions
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 09:34:53 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Love the fact you can hear Guzan where ever the play is on the fiels, swearing liek a trooper too!
Yes, shame he can't get to a fairly weak shot at his near post mind you..
Would have been a good save at that range though Richard. Mind you, probably should have been meno to them just before with Warnock's challenge. Either way, it was poor to give the winger that much room.
Yes, true TV, fancy Warnock diving in eh! Not seen that before....
That is something I really don't like about him. Also I think he's sometimes too lightweight.
In fact it's fair to say I'm not that big a fan.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
The Iraq stream's better than Veetle at the mo
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Looks hot doesn't it - they've all got 'the Petrov look' and it's not even half time...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: J on July 31, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i am on Downing watch, lets add up his positive contributions
I've counted 2 so far. Do you reckon you'll get to more than five?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 09:44:35 PM
MON's got his glasses on, so that's the Laser theory shot.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: "J"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i am on Downing watch, lets add up his positive contributions
I've counted 2 so far. Do you reckon you'll get to more than five?
See. For twice the fee he is infinitely better than Sidwell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 09:47:50 PM
This is exciting, I needed something to send me to sleep!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: "nelrazor1"
I quite like the orange ball Toronto!
THey're expecting snow in the second half
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 09:49:16 PM
How can we have a free kick on the half way line and actually end up playing it backwards?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Quote from: "nelrazor1"
I quite like the orange ball Toronto!
THey're expecting snow in the second half
Stranger things have happened - our midfielder scored a screamer earlier...!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: J on July 31, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "J"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i am on Downing watch, lets add up his positive contributions
I've counted 2 so far. Do you reckon you'll get to more than five?
See. For twice the fee he is infinitely better than Sidwell.
I hope Fulham take him off our hands, can't see Mark Hughes sanctioning it though. Downing stuck on 2 for Hawkeye's 'Downing watch.'
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
Ouch. Nige is taking it seriously. That was a cruncher
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 09:55:05 PM
downing has lost it 3 times
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 09:57:01 PM
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
He did very well to create the chance though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 31, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
I can't get any decent coverage. Could some kind soul provide a sensible analysis of the first half.
(can of worms notwithstanding)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
Woefull
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: miss villa on July 31, 2010, 09:59:34 PM
oh dear Warnock is beaten every time...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on July 31, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
Our defence looks crap!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
Yeah, we get it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:00:39 PM
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I can't get any decent coverage. Could some kind soul provide a sensible analysis of the first half.
(can of worms notwithstanding)
We have dominated without looking remotely dangerous after Albrighton's goal. Feyenoord have had very little of the ball but have probably created more clear cut chances than us. And it's half time. NRC, Beye, Young and Albrighton all ok in patches, Gabby anonymous...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 10:01:15 PM
Villa were hanging on a bit at the end of the half.
I missed the first ten mins and the goal. Feyenord looked the better team from what I saw
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
It's like suicide watch in a secure unit in here!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I can't get any decent coverage. Could some kind soul provide a sensible analysis of the first half.
(can of worms notwithstanding)
We have dominated without looking remotely dangerous after Albrighton's goal. Feyenoord have had very little of the ball but have probably created more clear cut chances than us. And it's half time. NRC, Beye, Young and Albrighton all ok in patches, Gabby anonymous...
I think Gabby has done pretty well considering the terrible service. Looks stronger than ever, just hasn't had a chance to run at anyone, or get a shot off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
i dont want to see downing fail, its just obvious that he will, this is our most expensive plkayer ever and he is cack
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
Does seem that way.
Only saw the last 15 minutes and it's being played like what it is - a friendly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: jibba81 on July 31, 2010, 10:04:17 PM
I was hoping to see a bit more smut in the dutch advert break
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I can't get any decent coverage. Could some kind soul provide a sensible analysis of the first half.
(can of worms notwithstanding)
We have dominated without looking remotely dangerous after Albrighton's goal. Feyenoord have had very little of the ball but have probably created more clear cut chances than us. And it's half time. NRC, Beye, Young and Albrighton all ok in patches, Gabby anonymous...
At times a little like last year. We can do a lot of good things but we lack a real cutting edge in the final third. If Ash is going to play there he'll need to grow into that role. Haven't seen much of Gabby, and it will be interesting to see what Carew does in a similar role should he come on. Young Marc Albrighton looks very keen indeed, and NRC is NRC. The defence looks all over the place at times.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 10:04:47 PM
Would be nice to see us play a little bit of football tho Chris.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: "tarzansbrother"
Would be nice to see us play a little bit of football tho Chris.
We have done. Perhaps I've got a different game on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
OK first half.
We're trying to play from the back, and although we haven't looked too threatening in the final third it's pretty even.
Some nice touches from Feyenoord in tight situations, but then you'd expect that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
i dont want to see downing fail, its just obvious that he will, this is our most expensive plkayer ever and he is cack
How is the £10m that we spent on Downing more than the £12m we spent on Milner?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 10:08:47 PM
Take out a brilliant solo goal and our most expensive player showing not how to control a thru ball we have IMO been unable to pass the ball, cross too long and look defensively frail.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:08:58 PM
for me its a slower paced version of the way we played last season, it just takes us a little longer to give the ball away
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:09:07 PM
Reasoned analysis:
Guzan - couldn;t do much will the goal but despite a lack of much to do has still looked unconvincing
Beye - surprisingly good but seems to get forward and get caught out a bit too often
Dunne - class as always
Cuellar - a bit anonymous and his partnership with Dunne is a bit shaky
Warnock started well but has fallen away - looks knackered
Reo-Coker - getting forward and getting stuck in but his tackling is woeful
Petrov - looks knackered in the heat, anything he's trying isn;t coming off
Downing - not done much. Second touch on that chance was dire
Albrighton - looks ready for the first team already. Finish was outstanding and at least we've got someone who wants to have a shot.
Young - getting kicked to shit. Everything decent coming through him.
Agbonlahor - has had pretty much the sum of shag all to work with.
Overall, not the best performance you'd see but a typical pre-season one. Feyenoord have offered prctically nothing but find themselves on terms but they've also had by far the better chances. If Villa stepped it up a notch they'd win this easily.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: "tarzansbrother"
Take out a brilliant solo goal and our most expensive player showing not how to control a thru ball we have IMO been unable to pass the ball, cross too long and look defensively frail.
Milner isn't playing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ashkar on July 31, 2010, 10:09:58 PM
much more possession for villa for once!! being a friendly the players are trying to keep it on the floor which is nice to see. Also formation helps. petrov and reo in the middle looks solid. downing and albrighton looked threatning in patches. ashley and gabby was ok. beye was decent going forward. warnock has been poor, dunne looked a bit rusty.
all in all a decent performance.
would like to see FONZ given a run.
LOOKS like MON wants a 4-4-1-1. We might see Carew mainly off the bench this season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
i dont want to see downing fail, its just obvious that he will, this is our most expensive plkayer ever and he is cack
How is the £10m that we spent on Downing more than the £12m we spent on Milner?
we spent 12.5 on downing, havent seen the 20mil bid for downing either. and what do you reckon we would get for downing?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
I'm willing to give Downing a bit more time but I will probably lose my patience in January if he doesn't shape up by then. I'm sure there is a player in there somewhere. Generally if you look at a player to make mistakes you will see them as Somniloquism said Ash has given the ball away too.
I still think MoN will play 4-4-2 in the first game but wouldn't be too unhappy if he did I think it will work well. It's good to hear Reo is getting stuck in and playing well. I'm not his biggest fan but I think if he stays we will be a very good squad player to have around.
As Chris says it's only a friendly. We don't know how players and formations will perform or even which will be used until two weeks time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ashkar on July 31, 2010, 10:12:58 PM
gotta say the pitch doesnt look decent to play the pretty passing football though
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
i dont want to see downing fail, its just obvious that he will, this is our most expensive plkayer ever and he is cack
How is the £10m that we spent on Downing more than the £12m we spent on Milner?
we spent 12.5 on downing, havent seen the 20mil bid for downing either. and what do you reckon we would get for downing?
No we didn't. He cost £10m with a potential £2m in add-ons.
Unless O'Neill doesn't know what he spent. Because he says we spent £10m.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we spent 12.5 on downing, havent seen the 20mil bid for downing either. and what do you reckon we would get for downing?
I'm pretty sure it was £10m up front and then a bit extra for appearences.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on July 31, 2010, 10:14:22 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Dave"
How is the £10m that we spent on Downing more than the £12m we spent on Milner?
we spent 12.5 on downing, havent seen the 20mil bid for downing either. and what do you reckon we would get for downing?
from Wiki
Quote
Aston Villa
Following Middlesbrough's relegation, Downing signed a four-year contract with Aston Villa, becoming Martin O'Neill's first signing of the 2009 Summer transfer window for a fee of £10 million with an extra £2 million to be paid depending on appearances.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 10:15:16 PM
Is anyoneelse's stream showing Giovanni Van Bronkhorst getting substituted?
I know it might be due to the Dutch doing well in the World Cup but I cannot think of many English/British players that would command such universal respect.
Maybe Giggs.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Downing in with a great chance one on one but over-ran the ball....
saw that, wanker
I wonder how many times Ash has lost the ball.
Some people just want to see some of our players fail.
i dont want to see downing fail, its just obvious that he will, this is our most expensive plkayer ever and he is cack
How is the £10m that we spent on Downing more than the £12m we spent on Milner?
we spent 12.5 on downing, havent seen the 20mil bid for downing either. and what do you reckon we would get for downing?
No we didn't. He cost £10m with a potential £2m in add-ons.
Unless O'Neill doesn't know what he spent. Because he says we spent £10m.
yeh right
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
Lot of changes at half time - Sidwell, Heskey, Davies, Clark and Carew on amongst others (bit difficult to see on my small feed)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Lot of changes at half time - Sidwell, Heskey, Davies, Clark and Carew on amongst others (bit difficult to see on my small feed)
Clark isn't on is he?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Lot of changes at half time - Sidwell, Heskey, Davies, Clark and Carew on amongst others (bit difficult to see on my small feed)
Clark isn't on is he?
Probably not with my eyesight. Is that Lichaj at right back now?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on July 31, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
Their 22 tried an Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Lot of changes at half time - Sidwell, Heskey, Davies, Clark and Carew on amongst others (bit difficult to see on my small feed)
Clark isn't on is he?
Probably not with my eyesight. Is that Lichaj at right back now?
Yeah, Lichaj. Shorey at left back too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: jibba81 on July 31, 2010, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Quote from: "jibba81"
I was hoping to see a bit more smut in the dutch advert break
You're on the internet and you're hoping for smut in the advert break !?!
I know that you're only a couple of clicks away from a pic of what looks like a bear giving a blowjob !!
Just dissapointed in the Dutch really. They always had loads of filthy adverts from Holland on Tarrant On TV
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:25:24 PM
Is it just me or are we passing around well but they are playing 10 men behind the ball?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:26:29 PM
good save from their keeper
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: miss villa on July 31, 2010, 10:26:47 PM
what a shot from Ash
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:27:37 PM
Two good chances there, Young and Davies
And we are passing it around well, just no cutting edge as someone said earlier...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
I thought that was a decent freekick and great cross for Davies header from Young.
More of that please.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:28:56 PM
Unlucky Big JC...cracking turn and finish!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:28:58 PM
Carew scores....but is offside. Stuck it away well though!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
Carew. Disallowed off side.
Boooo!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on July 31, 2010, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Time to go to bed!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on July 31, 2010, 10:32:03 PM
Albrighton's a class act!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
Albrighton and Lichaj linking well down the right hand side on occasions...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:32:55 PM
bloody hell. Albrighton looks very confident indeed. I can see a spell on the bench for Downing at this rate.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:32:58 PM
Jesus... Albrighton looks ace!
Sidwell and Shorey have looked okay so far. In particular sidwell. He's passed well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 10:33:17 PM
Sounds like their supporters have been singing "We love you Feyenord, we do..." for the entire second half.
a) Why are the cloggies singing in English? b) Why sing one song continuously, doesn't it get a little dull?
With regards to the game, can't recall the last time I saw an orange ball. Pitch looks shocking. Carew looks lively.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:33:36 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
I'm not blaming him for the score but the referee's crap.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Sounds like their supporters have been singing "We love you Feyenord, we do..." for the entire second half.
a) Why are the cloggies singing in English? b) Why sing one song continuously, doesn't it get a little dull?
With regards to the game, can't recall the last time I saw an orange ball. Pitch looks shocking. Carew looks lively.
I'm just waiting for "empty seats me lord...."
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:36:02 PM
Suspect marking there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Very shaky defending again there, they had a player completely free at the far post who should have done better...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:37:13 PM
The ball bounces on that pitch like Loftus Road before they added sand
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 10:37:30 PM
It's weird seeing Shorey in a Villa shirt again.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:37:54 PM
Oof that bloody oaf Heskey!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: J on July 31, 2010, 10:39:04 PM
Do we get any money if we win this cup? Didn't we get around 2mil for the Peace Cup?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
thanks m8
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
thanks m8
m-a-t-e
Otherwise, welcome aboard.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
Fair play to you Sandman. It took me 4 goes to read and somewhat understand that. I was trying to add in captials, commas and full stops when I saw that you'd delivered the answer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
we are winning 6 0 heskey hat trick
Nearly, because he has scored
2-1 Villa!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
thanks m8
m-a-t-e
Otherwise, welcome aboard.
haha ye hows everyone playin then ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:42:41 PM
Boof, just like Haileys Comet...along comes a rareity!! Good finish Emile!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
we are winning 6 0 heskey hat trick
No 2-1. Heskey with the 2nd.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:42:51 PM
2-1.
Heskey.
Shame it's not a competitive match as it'd be great to see stevenjos' reaction.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on July 31, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
Heskey is a footballing god!!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
HESKEY!!!! Are you watching Hawkeye?!?!?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
Albrighton again with the cross for Heskey's goal. Right onto his head. This boy is playing himself into the first team...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:43:25 PM
Another good ball in by young Marc. Fonz coming on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 10:43:26 PM
Ivanhoe scores his first goal of his legendary 50 goal record breaking season!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:43:26 PM
Emule!! Albrighton cross again!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 10:43:40 PM
Good cross by Albrighton. Hesky with aplomb (it just rolls off the tongue).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 31, 2010, 10:43:40 PM
What a header.........Sooper Emile Heskey, he is on fire
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on July 31, 2010, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
One has just scored.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
safe lads new to this ma dads on it all the time he told me about it now whats the score with feynord if anyone knows ?
1-1.
Albrighton screamer before we were pegged back.
thanks m8
m-a-t-e
Otherwise, welcome aboard.
haha ye hows everyone playin then ?
Alright. We've been better, we've been worse.
Decent run-around, Albrighton looking very good.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:44:18 PM
Quick, tell Potato Face!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
hha emule is a godESS ha i love him scorin goal his middle name ivenhou
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 10:45:15 PM
Albrighton has to start for us. He has done more for me in his last 2 games than Downing has done for 6 months. The kid looks very very good.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:45:54 PM
Who's that with Bannan?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
hha emule is a godESS ha i love him scorin goal his middle name ivenhou
welcome aboard friend. Honestly, to survive in here you'll need to tidy up your spelling and punctuation.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:46:17 PM
i like albrighton a young player for the club him n delph will come up well together and hopefully work well with eachother and the rest of the squad in about 2-3 years time
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:46:58 PM
Albrighton full of confidence now. Fancy flicks, back heels, pulling out all the party tricks...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
i like albrighton a young player for the club him n delph will come up well together and hopefully work well with eachother and the rest of the squad in about 2-3 years time
Future is bright....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
One has just scored.
As has the other.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Sidwell
3-1
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: miss villa on July 31, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
WHAT A GOAL. WHY WONT HE DO THAT WHEN IT MATTERS?????
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
ok punctuation and spelling is all on, sorry for previous post's .
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:47:42 PM
Bloody hell! The Ginja Ninja!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:47:43 PM
SIDWEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL
Thanks Hakeye! That was awesome strike
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on July 31, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
I was saying the same thing in the Peace cup but I hope Albrighton starts for us next season. Best crosser we have by a long way.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Screamer, Sidwell!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 10:47:51 PM
oh my word. Sidwell with a screamer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
Fantastic shot by Sidwell....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on July 31, 2010, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
One has just scored.
and now the other has!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
...?! Sidwell?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on July 31, 2010, 10:48:12 PM
where the hell did Sidwell learn how to do that?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
Sidwell screamer...great set piece!
I see MON has taken the opportunity to turn this game into a shop window...nicely done!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Fucking hell.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Just need them to bring Downing back on now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: jamestownvilla on July 31, 2010, 10:48:27 PM
shorey to score next
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on July 31, 2010, 10:48:45 PM
Did Sidwell just blast it in from outside the box or is this Vodka much stronger than I thought.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rob Gee on July 31, 2010, 10:48:50 PM
Quote from: "ian c."
where the hell did Sidwell learn how to do that?
Everton away ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on July 31, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
Right. Just go in, somebody wanna give me a quick summary of what's going on please?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 10:49:12 PM
My sweet dick.
Zinedine Sidwell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on July 31, 2010, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: "ian c."
where the hell did Sidwell learn how to do that?
remember everton away?
i wish sidwell would find some form and play how he did for Reading
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:49:19 PM
Quote from: "Rob Gee"
Quote from: "ian c."
where the hell did Sidwell learn how to do that?
Everton away ?
Or Wigan away.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:49:21 PM
Another great run by Albrighton, shame about the shot at the end...
The boy is on fire!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:49:31 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
You need to come on here more often
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:49:39 PM
miss villa is exactly right why can't we do things like that in the premier league, if we had beat the lower ranked clubs last season instead of dropping silly points against teams like wolves etc. we would have finished 4th
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on July 31, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
3 - 1 Steven Sidwell with a blockbuster...................
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Fucking hell.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Just need them to bring Downing back on now.
sad
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:50:43 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
miss villa is exactly right why can't we do things like that in the premier league, if we had beat the lower ranked clubs last season instead of dropping silly points against teams like wolves etc. we would have finished 4th
True dat!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 10:50:46 PM
Summary:
Hawkeye mocks a few of our boys Mocked lads then score
It's quite entertaining!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:51:16 PM
3-1 what ive seen of this game weve been exceptionally good now we needs to hold on for the last 10 minutes up the villa!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MalcolmP on July 31, 2010, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: "Chipsticks"
Right. Just go in, somebody wanna give me a quick summary of what's going on please?
We're playing shit (Albrighton excepted) and we are winning 3-1 against poor opposition (Benfica beat them 4-1) And yes Heskey and Sidwell have scored!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 31, 2010, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
miss villa is exactly right why can't we do things like that in the premier league, if we had beat the lower ranked clubs last season instead of dropping silly points against teams like wolves etc. we would have finished 4th
True dat!!
Or wun da leeg
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Fucking hell.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Just need them to bring Downing back on now.
sad
Don't be too down-heartened, it's not all bad. At least the defence messed up a couple of times in the first half to keep you happy.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
we have the useless heskey and the hapless sidwell
Yep, definitely your bedtime.
with all this excitement?
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Fucking hell.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Just need them to bring Downing back on now.
sad
You might be, I'm over the moon. We're winning and playing very well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:51:56 PM
Young Lichaj looks quite decent doesn't he?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on July 31, 2010, 10:52:12 PM
Quote from: "Rob Gee"
Quote from: "ian c."
where the hell did Sidwell learn how to do that?
Everton away ?
I forgot that one. Why doesn't he do it more often?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: "MalcolmP"
Quote from: "Chipsticks"
Right. Just go in, somebody wanna give me a quick summary of what's going on please?
We're playing shit (Albrighton excepted) and we are winning 3-1 against poor opposition (Benfica beat them 4-1) And yes Heskey and Sidwell have scored!
Nothing like positive mental attitude...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
How many times has Carew had free kicks given against him 'cos some gnat of a defender has jumped into him?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Young Lichaj looks quite decent doesn't he?
Indeed. I wouldn't be too disappointed if he lines up against the Spam.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
miss villa is exactly right why can't we do things like that in the premier league, if we had beat the lower ranked clubs last season instead of dropping silly points against teams like wolves etc. we would have finished 4th
True dat!!
Or wun da leeg
No, sorry Dave my Baltimore projects talk only stretches to the one phrase!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 10:54:57 PM
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Would love to know what ze Dutch commentators are on about. Heard something about Heskey, Shorey, Sidwell ex internationals, but couldn't decipher the rest.
They also showed a clip at half time of Feyenoord pressurising us and the ball going back to Guzan who smashed it long. Perhaps it was their play on "They don't like it up 'em, Brian" but it seems odd in the context of this match as we've generally tried to get the ball down and play and build from the back.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:55:13 PM
With a few of these youngsters stepping up to the plate, we suddenly look to have a lot of depth to the squad, if not quite the requisite quality in some positions...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 31, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Young Lichaj looks quite decent doesn't he?
I agree. Very comfortable on the ball.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:55:54 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
About bloody time too!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 10:55:56 PM
Anyone know how tall the Fonz is ? Looks taller than I recall.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:56:10 PM
Sidwell looks in a bit of bovver
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 10:56:31 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Anyone know how tall the Fonz is ? Looks taller than I recall.
6'1" I think
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
looking at our players wearing the new kit i like it wasn't to sure about it when i first saw it (the home kit that is , i love the away kit) but i really do like it
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Would love to know what ze Dutch commentators are on about. Heard something about Heskey, Shorey, Sidwell ex internationals, but couldn't decipher the rest.
They also showed a clip at half time of Feyenoord pressurising us and the ball going back to Guzan who smashed it long. Perhaps it was their play on "They don't like it up 'em, Brian" but it seems odd in the context of this match as we've generally tried to get the ball down and play and build from the back.
They know their stuff though. I heard Bannan, Blackpool and Derby County all mentioned in the same sentence!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 10:57:25 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
I'm still pissing myself, sorry.
What was that?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
You're missing the point. It's not about being better supporters. It's that you've been entirely negative throughout the game. Just gets very old, very quickly. Nobody is saying it's perfect, but you never commend the players or team. Show some balance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
Hawkeye, it's a knockabout friendly. The comments in here are about as serious as the game i.e. not at all. No offence intended, just a few blokes having a laugh pre-season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Hawkeye, it's a knockabout friendly. The comments in here are about as serious as the game i.e. not at all. No offence intended, just a few blokes having a laugh pre-season.
It's like a pre-season for the new season match threads.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
You're missing the point. It's not about being better supporters. It's that you've been entirely negative throughout the game. Just gets very old, very quickly. Nobody is saying it's perfect, but you never commend the players or team. Show some balance.
Then, when the players you've been objecting to go on to score some decent goals, it's pretty funny. Certainly no malice in it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:00:31 PM
Only we could have an argument winning 3-1 in a knockabout
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
completely agree with paulie walnuts
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 11:00:43 PM
BedsV - thanks. Don't know why I thought he was a short arse (like me). He's a big lad.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:01:07 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Hawkeye, it's a knockabout friendly. The comments in here are about as serious as the game i.e. not at all. No offence intended, just a few blokes having a laugh pre-season.
It's like a pre-season for the new season match threads.
It's an opportunity to experiment with different viewpoints, but the main focus should be on getting your typing up to speed!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on July 31, 2010, 11:01:22 PM
At least albrightons performance should end any chance of mon going for mcgeady- we don't need another winger, let's give albrighton a run in the league,it will get downing on his toes too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
About bloody time too!
irony is obviously lost on you
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:02:28 PM
What a save by Guzan there from a fantastic volley...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 11:02:39 PM
3-1 is a good result and i'm a person who will never moan and groan about a win for the villa, haha
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on July 31, 2010, 11:02:40 PM
Great save Brad 2
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:02:53 PM
Top save from Guzan!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
great save from little Brad
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:03:11 PM
And we win 3-1
Thanks for your company guys and Miss Villa
Off to see Toy Story tomorrow evening en famille so will miss the Benfica match. Enjoy!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: "Tucson Villain"
Great save Brad 2
i agree good save from guzan he's not the best goalied but he is a really good shot stopper
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:03:38 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
About bloody time too!
irony is obviously lost on you
And banter on you, now would you like a little cuddle before your story and tomorrow we can go to the zoo...if you're good.x
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 11:03:39 PM
Dutch pundits talking about Slag Bags now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 11:03:44 PM
What a thoroughly enjoyable evening. Who wants an argument?
Heskey is a good footballer, discuss.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
One things for sure Albrighton looks a match winner to me. Will he start against the hammers?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 11:04:10 PM
Listening to the analysts I've learned something.
I know absolutely fuck all in the way of Dutch.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:04:35 PM
Penalty shootout now?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on July 31, 2010, 11:04:47 PM
Quote from: "east19"
At least albrightons performance should end any chance of mon going for mcgeady- we don't need another winger, let's give albrighton a run in the league,it will get downing on his toes too.
I hope you're right. After his performances both this pre-season and last year, Albrighton has earned a crack at it and a quite lot of us want to see him get a run in the team. McGeady would be about as popular as a fart in a lift.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
What a thoroughly enjoyable evening. Who wants an argument?
Heskey is a good footballer, discuss.
Runaway!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Listening to the analysts I've learned something.
I know absolutely fuck all in the way of Dutch.
I thought it was in Portuguese?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:05:20 PM
My text from the club with the final score said 'Villa midfield duo hit screamers'
When was the last time you could say that I wonder?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on July 31, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: "MalcolmP"
Quote from: "Chipsticks"
Right. Just go in, somebody wanna give me a quick summary of what's going on please?
We're playing shit (Albrighton excepted) and we are winning 3-1 against poor opposition (Benfica beat them 4-1) And yes Heskey and Sidwell have scored!
Heskey and Sidwell scored?
TROLL
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 11:05:46 PM
Sidwell's goal is almost sexual.
Gets better with every viewing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 11:06:16 PM
Missed the first half. Just seen the replay on Albrighton's goal - cracker!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:07:27 PM
Why are they taking pens now?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on July 31, 2010, 11:07:28 PM
Sidwells reaction to his goal looked like a player on his way to me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 11:07:44 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Listening to the analysts I've learned something.
I know absolutely fuck all in the way of Dutch.
I thought it was in Portuguese?
The iraqgoals thread was in Dutch. It's funny though, in cadence and pronuciation you could hear the similarity to English even though they were probably saying something completely different to what it sounded like they were talking about.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on July 31, 2010, 11:07:46 PM
Quote from: "The Man With A Stick"
Quote from: "east19"
At least albrightons performance should end any chance of mon going for mcgeady- we don't need another winger, let's give albrighton a run in the league,it will get downing on his toes too.
I hope you're right. After his performances both this pre-season and last year, Albrighton has earned a crack at it and a quite lot of us want to see him get a run in the team. McGeady would be about as popular as a fart in a lift.
Very pleased for him, he should make the most of it as the "Albrighton is lazy/too cocky/shit" backlash will start in late October.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on July 31, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Penalty shootout now?
Penalties it is
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
Awesome pen by Carew!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Listening to the analysts I've learned something.
I know absolutely fuck all in the way of Dutch.
I thought it was in Portuguese?
Either way I didn't understand a word.
I was on Iraq Goals if that's any help?
I though Albrighton was magnificent... I know it's not the real thing and just a kickabout but the only way we'll find out if he is ready is in the first team for a Premiership match.
Our youth players in particular Albrighton, Delfoueso and Lichaj all look really talented on the ball too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: miss villa on July 31, 2010, 11:09:06 PM
Was it just me that didnt know there would be pens..? theyve earned their wages tonight anyway..com'on Brad...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:09:15 PM
great peno by Banana
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa baz on July 31, 2010, 11:09:27 PM
who scored the goals ?.just got in
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on July 31, 2010, 11:09:33 PM
Whats with the pen shootout?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: "miss villa"
Was it just me that didnt know there would be pens..? theyve earned their wages tonight anyway..com'on Brad...
just a bit of fun at the end. Not for the third Feyenoord player mind you!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:10:02 PM
Fuck it I turned my stream off! Missed JC's Pen...let me guess hit very hard wouldn't have been saved by two keepers!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 11:10:34 PM
What the hell is this penalties rubbish?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:10:43 PM
Good peno by Sidders. This is like Juventus all over again!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on July 31, 2010, 11:11:39 PM
Wrong BedsV - a little trickler with the goalie going the wrong way. Would have looked a complete numpty had the goalie not dived the wrong way. It was a very non-Carew penalty, which made it quite funny.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:11:47 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLL - SHOREY!!!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:12:08 PM
One pen for us to win that too...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 11:12:12 PM
This Veetle feed freezes for me after 5 seconds, so I'm hitting refresh and getting five seconds of action, then repeating the operation.
There appear to be some penalties.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:12:26 PM
And we miss it!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Wrong BedsV - a little trickler with the goalie going the wrong way. Would have looked a complete numpty had the goalie not dived the wrong way. It was a very non-Carew penalty, which made it quite funny.
Cheers Beijing!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on July 31, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
And it finishes 4-4 on pens!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on July 31, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
Four all - one of the most pointless things I've ever seen.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
And they stopped the shootout at 4-4?
Weird!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2010, 11:13:12 PM
Pfft, can't even win on penalties.
I'm joining hawkeye in the grumpy corner now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Lichaj can't finish it off - balls!! Come on Brad!
edit - ends 4-4 in pens. Good win and workout tonight folks
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on July 31, 2010, 11:13:25 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
What the hell is this penalties rubbish?
thats what i was thinking we win 3-1 yet we still go to penalties??
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 11:13:32 PM
WTF? What was the point in that? A draw on penalties? Brilliant.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
Do these penalties count towards something?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on July 31, 2010, 11:15:05 PM
Just practice for when we get to the Europa league final...perhaps?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 11:15:07 PM
Typical Lichaj, always said he was a liability.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on July 31, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Well that was one of the most pointless penalty shoot outs ever, a 4-4 draw in the shoot out after a game where we had won 3-1 and Feyenoord lost to Benfica yesterday so it did not really matter anyway! Strange!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: "nelrazor1"
Do these penalties count towards something?
No. It's not like a regular tournament. It's just a step up from a regular friendly, so like an extended training match and penalty practice. Winner of us and Benfica wins the "cup" now. Doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on July 31, 2010, 11:15:57 PM
Although it was only a friendly..... two very well struck goals from Sidwell and Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2010, 11:16:41 PM
Is there going to be a post-match thread?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
Pfft, can't even win on penalties.
I'm joining hawkeye in the grumpy corner now.
ha
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:17:43 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "nelrazor1"
Do these penalties count towards something?
No. It's not like a regular tournament. It's just a step up from a regular friendly, so like an extended training match and penalty practice. Winner of us and Benfica wins the "cup" now. Doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.
Cheers for clearing that up bud.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on July 31, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
yeh thats right you are so much better supporters than me, its a privilidge to be in your company
About bloody time too!
irony is obviously lost on you
And banter on you, now would you like a little cuddle before your story and tomorrow we can go to the zoo...if you're good.x
my mum told me to stay away from people like you
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on July 31, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
Pens are taken at end of games so that in event of the group being tied there would be an overall winner.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 11:27:01 PM
Quote from: "avfcpg"
Pens are taken at end of games so that in event of the group being tied there would be an overall winner.
Apparently if it is level after penalties are taken into account, it goes down to a dance-off.
Big Emile is going to bust a move on the centre spot. He's practically dancing for Britain.
Maybe the boo boys could cut him some slack?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on July 31, 2010, 11:29:45 PM
What dance will he do? The bump?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: "avfcpg"
What dance will he do? The bump?
The dying fly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on July 31, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
Seeing as he's so familiar with the deck, the worm would be a natural choice.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on July 31, 2010, 11:36:58 PM
Does he have the necessary spinal fluidity? I could see him breakdancing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 31, 2010, 11:43:59 PM
Are there not enough Emile Heskey pisstake threads?
Why not discuss his positive contributions to the team tonight? Anyway, I happen to know he does a tremendous 'Robot'.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on July 31, 2010, 11:47:15 PM
I've thought of something as depressing as the many hackneyed jokes about Hesk to do in response.
That said I do laugh at some of them.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2010, 11:53:42 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Are there not enough Emile Heskey pisstake threads?
Why not discuss his positive contributions to the team tonight? Anyway, I happen to know he does a tremendous 'Robot'.
He does it every time he sc.....
Well, wait a minute, I oughta ... *shakes fist at sky*
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MattW on August 01, 2010, 12:18:33 AM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "Dave"
As SoccerHQ has said a couple of times, I still fully expect us to line up 4-4-2 against West Ham.
Me too. Good to know that another formation exists though, should we need it.
I'm not so sure. If we line up in every pre-season game as 4-5-1, I think it suggests we'll start in that formation against West Ham.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Grande Pablo on August 01, 2010, 12:28:30 AM
Nice viewing -
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 12:30:03 AM
^^ those highlights (
) are awfully put together.
I've watched about 15 times and still can't distinguish any of our goals.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 12:47:20 AM
I've been an advocate of 4-2-3-1, but it sounds like we looked better with the 4-4-2? Or is that just because Gabby is off form?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 12:51:17 AM
Quote
By Sandy Macaskill in the Algarve Published: 11:13PM BST 31 Jul 2010
In the dark: Martin O'Neill (centre) admits he is unsure where James Milner will be playing his football next season
Sources close to the deal have admitted that the protracted nature of negotiations is becoming increasingly exasperating, for despite the season being two weeks away no one seems to be any the wiser over where Milner will be playing.
“Who knows what might happen in the foreseeable future,” Martin O’Neill said. “I’m not even sure myself.”
With everyone in the dark there is a danger of reading too much into the most insignificant of matters, but it certainly seemed symbolic when it emerged that there was not enough room for Steve Sidwell, Luke Young, Milner, and Nicky Shorey (another of those out of favour), to join O’Neill in the dugout during Saturday night’s 3-1 against Feyenoord in Vila Real de Santo Antonio in Portugal.
Fuck me, that really is piss poor journalism. If you're actually in the Algarve, and not writing this report from your kicthen, how does Sandy completely miss the bit where Shorey played in the the 2nd half, and Sidwell scored a screamer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 01, 2010, 12:54:37 AM
Yet the shitty piece in the Milner (soon to be) novel says Minler and Young were in the dugout albeit at the other end. (Unless there was a secondary row of seats they had to sit on)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MattW on August 01, 2010, 01:59:20 AM
This one is better:
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BannedUserIAT on August 01, 2010, 02:24:23 AM
Late to this thread and not seen anything of the games except the above highlights (thanks to the posters) but I have to say that Albrighton looks/sounds like he could be our David Beckham. I really hope MoN gives him an extended run this season. Preferably in his favoured position!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2010, 09:35:01 AM
What a screamer by young Albrighton, good to see. And a great header from Heskey, and a rather nice effort from Sidders. Fair play to them both.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 10:03:33 AM
Only saw the goals, Albrighton - bladdy 'ell, where'd that come from?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
^^ those highlights (
) are awfully put together.
I've watched about 15 times and still can't distinguish any of our goals.
Agreed. The ones they're showing on SSN just after the start of the hour are a bit better.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:49:03 AM
What a goal by Albrighton.
Lovin' the Orange ball.
Cracking defending for their goal.
Great cross and header for Heskeys goal.
Cracking shot by Sidwell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
Who is our number 17?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: deero83 on August 01, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
What a goal by Albrighton.
Lovin' the Orange ball.
Cracking defending for their goal.
Great cross and header for Heskeys goal.
Cracking shot by Sidwell.
I thought the orange ball was really hard to spot!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on August 01, 2010, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Who is our number 17?
Lichaj I think.
I also noticed that Bananaman wore number 26. Wonder if this is a sign of what the squad numbers are this coming season? (Although that would mean Salifou hasn't got a number)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Desi on August 01, 2010, 11:54:06 AM
Any links for the Benfica game?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 01, 2010, 11:54:54 AM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Desi on August 01, 2010, 12:17:50 PM
Thanks for that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Desi on August 01, 2010, 12:18:19 PM
Thanks for that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 01, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
My pleasure. My pleasure.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: nicardinho on August 01, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
Sidwell's goal is frickin' marvellous.
The first one ins't too bad either, but I still cannot work out which part of his body Heshey's was in off. But hey, a goal is a goal so I'm not criticising..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Fasth56 on August 01, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Who is our number 17?
Lichaj I think.
I also noticed that Bananaman wore number 26. Wonder if this is a sign of what the squad numbers are this coming season? (Although that would mean Salifou hasn't got a number)
Or it could mean that Oneill has finally got salifou's number and realised he is shite, bulletproof or not!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
What a goal by Albrighton.
Lovin' the Orange ball.
Cracking defending for their goal.
Great cross and header for Heskeys goal.
Cracking shot by Sidwell.
I suppose that's it now from those two for this season!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 03:50:54 PM
The orange ball was a right pain in the arse when it came to watching the game on a stream.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
When do we kick off today?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on August 01, 2010, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
When do we kick off today?
9.15 pm
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 04:02:28 PM
Thanks.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 04:56:22 PM
Watching Arsenal v Celtic now.
Arsenal play some superb football.
Why can't we play like that? :(
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
what time is kick off tonight lads ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
what time is kick off tonight lads ?
dosnt matter i found 9.15
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 06:53:26 PM
I think we'll get beaten tonight.
The defending I've seen from our pre-season games has been poor.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 01, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
I think we'll win.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
A win would be nice :)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Simba on August 01, 2010, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Watching Arsenal v Celtic now.
Arsenal play some superb football.
Why can't we play like that? :(
I am with you but I have spoken to a lot of Arsenal fans in the last two months ( WC down here in SA - fan parks etc) and to a man they say that they would rather play like Wimbledon if it meant they would win something....
Funny old game?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 07:24:29 PM
Hate to say it but I think we're going to get spanked.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
I don't care, it's a pre-season friendly!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 07:44:17 PM
I do, I'm going to suffer if we lose to that glory hunting rabble. Glorioso - my arse.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on August 01, 2010, 07:52:08 PM
2-1 Villa. And it does matter. We paraded the peace Cup as if it was something worthwhile so friendlies do matter.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 01, 2010, 07:54:07 PM
Quote from: "peter w"
2-1 Villa. And it does matter. We paraded the peace Cup as if it was something worthwhile so friendlies do matter.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
I don't care, it's a pre-season friendly!
Says the man that constantly pesters the General about us entering some local Mickey Mouse Cup competition.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
I don't care, it's a pre-season friendly!
Says the man that constantly pesters the General about us entering some local Mickey Mouse Cup competition.
The Birmingham Senior Cup is one of the oldest competitions in the World, it was Villa's first ever trophy and we still (just) hold the record for most wins.
The Peace Cup and the Gurdiana(?) Cup are glorified pre-season knockabouts.
Get excited all you want, it's still only a pre-season friendly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 01, 2010, 08:11:32 PM
Nuno Gomes and Saviola are Benficas big names, anybody know if they are playing tonight?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Nuno Gomes and Saviola are Benficas big names, anybody know if they are playing tonight?
I'd have said that Aimar and Cardozo are far bigger names than Nuno Gomes. Probably Ramires and Luisão as well.
(I have no idea which of them are playing)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"
Nuno Gomes and Saviola are Benficas big names, anybody know if they are playing tonight?
I wish Nuno Gomes was playing, he's still crap. Biggest name at Benfica is centre half with the hair, David Luiz, the guy's class. Chelsea are rumoured to be after him to replace Carvalho, Mourinho at Real Madrid wants him too.
Cardozo scores for fun, Aimar is still a great player, Coentrão really impressed me in the World Cup and Javi Garcia is another to look out for. Plus the two Dave mentioned, Ramires and Luisão. Benfica will no doubt have a full strength team out tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 08:28:18 PM
We're fooked.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 08:43:44 PM
Warnock and Gabby injured?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 08:44:51 PM
We are now. Where's Gabby, driving Milner to the airport?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 08:46:38 PM
I expect that to be more of a diamond system tonight. Though it may be interesting see where Ash goes, and whether one of Fonz or Heskey comes deeper for the ball. I expect Albrighton to switch wings during the evening.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
Warnock and Gabby injured?
I assume Warnock's rested. Gabby may have picked up a knock. Not heard anything.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on August 01, 2010, 08:49:21 PM
Think they played the whole game yesterday maybe rested?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 08:50:00 PM
Warnock's on the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 08:51:15 PM
Anyone have a link?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 01, 2010, 08:51:26 PM
I'm surprised Albrighton's playing again, he's played every pre-season game so far i think. Would'nt surprise me if he did'nt even make the bench for the first game though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 08:52:42 PM
You need to download Veetle for this one but it's better than Iraq goals imo.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 09:01:03 PM
Cheers!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:03:32 PM
MON said earlier that Luke Young had no chance of playing tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
Quote from: "clampy"
I'm surprised Albrighton's playing again, he's played every pre-season game so far i think. Would'nt surprise me if he did'nt even make the bench for the first game though.
Maybe - just maybe - MON thinks he's ready to step up to the first team so is giving him a thorough test. Got to be a better bet than McGeady
Well, we can dream can't we?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:07:46 PM
Of the non-youngsters who hasn't played this pre-season ?
Salifou ? When is his contract up ? Delph - injured Osbourne ? Collins - injured ? Milner - well, no point speculating
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Based on Albrighton's brief appearances I see no need to buy McGeady. Between him, Downing, Ashley and Gabby (at a push) why do we need to look at more wingers? There are other more problem areas.
Hope Albrighton has another good game tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:10:14 PM
Salifou played against Walsall. He just played like Salifou would be expected to play really. No idea what he's still doing here tbh - must be on a rolling one year deal!
Collins pulled up within thirty seconds of the start at Walsall.
Osborne came on aganst Peterborough I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Of the non-youngsters who hasn't played this pre-season ?
Salifou ? When is his contract up ? Delph - injured Osbourne ? Collins - injured ? Milner - well, no point speculating
Osbourne has played 2/3 times for us in pre-season.
Collins playede against Walsall but was injured after 10 seconds.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:12:18 PM
Thanks. Any idea if Collins has a serious injury? Thought he was excellent last season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Thanks. Any idea if Collin's has a serious injury? Thought he was excellent last season.
I think it was a calf strain, not too serious I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:13:21 PM
Ok im going for a 2-1 win for us. Sidwell and Carew
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 09:13:27 PM
Calf strain, apparently not serious.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 01, 2010, 09:14:09 PM
Come on lads!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
the black kit looks really quite cool
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
I'd forgotten about Saviola. I remember we were always going to sign him to play alongside Angel. Until we found out we'd have to pay to get him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:15:14 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did that not just say Milner was playing?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
the black kit looks really quite cool
Agreed looks the business!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on August 01, 2010, 09:15:45 PM
Wasn't that when he was at barcelona?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:15:52 PM
Love the black strip with the checkerboard side panels. Wasn't keen on the photos but seeing it being worn it looks great. Not sure about the Tony the Tiger goalie kit though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:17:35 PM
Are they expecting heavy snow?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
the black kit looks really quite cool
Agreed looks the business!
That said the yellow goalie shirt is just terrible, what were nike thinking?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
come on Villa!! a good test tonight against a technically very good team
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
Anyone else finding this Veetle stream to be very stop start and choppy?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 09:20:24 PM
Just watch the way the Benfica players look comfortable on the ball..these are teams Villa should model themselves on, passing wise
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on August 01, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
the black kit looks really quite cool
Agreed looks the business!
That said the yellow goalie shirt is just terrible, what were nike thinking?!
Not sure but it definitely wasn't making sure they'd get our kit out on time. I wonder how long before Nike decide that we're just not worth it and dump us, or vice versa?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:20:28 PM
Started with a fast tempo
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 09:21:22 PM
Black kit is better in the flesh.
They look a bit sharper to start with, but we're further into our pre season preparation so hopefully that will tell in the latter stages of the game like last night.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
nice to see a load of Villa fans over in the corner
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
I hate going on about refs but there's already been a fair few 50-50s that Benfica have got the decision on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
Jesus young Marc puts himself about a bit! Milner who?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
Interesting contest between Albrighton and Coentrão.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 09:26:57 PM
bollocks
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:27:05 PM
Brilliant goal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:27:17 PM
oh fuck
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:27:23 PM
Jammy bastards.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 09:27:29 PM
fuck me. Jammy deflection
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 09:27:34 PM
Good finish by Dunney!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 01, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Bloody hell there have been some belters in this event.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
Yeah, a bit less brilliant once you've seen it spin off Dunne.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
Big deflection, Brad had no chance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 01, 2010, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Bloody hell there have been some belters in this event.
You do realise it took a massive deflection of Dunney?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:29:01 PM
Davies on for Carlos.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:32:03 PM
Awful free kick.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:33:01 PM
Luke Young looks business like tonight
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Awful free kick.
Ash is carrying on with last season's form!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
They're a fair bit better than us aren't they?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Luke Young looks business like tonight
He's certainly taking no prisoners.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on August 01, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Awful free kick.
Ash is carrying on with last season's form!
He has scored only 1 free-kick for us. Why does he still get them? Let someone else have a try.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:35:15 PM
If the football powers that be ever want to kill illegal match streams, they really just need to switch to an orange ball.
It's a bugger to see in a small window of compressed video
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
They're using the ball much smarter than Villa.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
Every time a throw in goes to Sidders, it gets returned to the throwers' wrong foot, or too short, or bobbling. Is it really that difficult?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:36:28 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
They're using the ball much smarter than Villa.
It's not often you hear that said, is it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 09:37:16 PM
I hate this f'ing orange ball.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
If the football powers that be ever want to kill illegal match streams, they really just need to switch to an orange ball.
It's a bugger to see in a small window of compressed video
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Where did I put that magnifying glass?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
They're using the ball much smarter than Villa.
It's not often you hear that said, is it.
Last time I heard it was against Juventus in 83.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 09:38:23 PM
has anybody got a clear stream? mine is terrible.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
If the football powers that be ever want to kill illegal match streams, they really just need to switch to an orange ball.
It's a bugger to see in a small window of compressed video
What ball?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:39:34 PM
For fuck's sake ref, which of those fouls did you not see?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on August 01, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
has anybody got a clear stream? mine is terrible.
You might need to drink more water old chap
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:40:53 PM
good stuff..bad luck Albrighton
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:40:56 PM
If Albrighton had come through the United youth ranks the papers would be creaming themselves right now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
Unlucky Marc great control
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:41:04 PM
Great turn by the Fonz.
Good effort by Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:41:05 PM
Albrighton volley just wide. Could've done with a Benfica-esque flukey deflection.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on August 01, 2010, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
They're using the ball much smarter than Villa.
Our first touch is always fucking dreadful, for supposedly highly paid professionals it can be embarrassing sometimes. Forwards look shite........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 09:42:17 PM
Unlucky Albrighton, nice technique to bring it down and volley. This kid should make it as a Premiership player.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
The Benifica coach looks like a german porn star!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:43:43 PM
Aftab - you an expert on German porn ??!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
Looking at their manager I'd say there is a German porn film missing its male lead.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:44:14 PM
Who is alongside Petrov in the middle?
I've been waiting to see / hear for ten minutes but am none the wiser.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
Three coniserus in German porn.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
Barring the late free kick last night, Ash's set pieces have been awful on this trip.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Who is alongside Petrov in the middle?
I've been waiting to see / hear for ten minutes but am none the wiser.
I think he's wearing his magic wristband of invisibility again.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
If only Ash could cross...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Who is alongside Petrov in the middle?
I've been waiting to see / hear for ten minutes but am none the wiser.
I think he's wearing his magic wristband of invisibility again.
Is it really Sidwell?
Well, that sums him up
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Who is alongside Petrov in the middle?
I've been waiting to see / hear for ten minutes but am none the wiser.
Sidwell.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Namlod on August 01, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
Shorey is playing shite tonight, no pace and no skill!
Come on lads!!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Who is alongside Petrov in the middle?
I've been waiting to see / hear for ten minutes but am none the wiser.
I think he's wearing his magic wristband of invisibility again.
Or maybe his hair is causing the same problems as the ball...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
im reffering too the stream not the game :-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
Ash got to the byline then, crossed it and there was just one person in the box! For a team that likes to get it wide and whip the ball in you would think our players would have learned by now to get themselves into the box wouldn't you?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 09:48:03 PM
Delf's been pretty poor. Albrighton coming into it
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
Problem is Karl, Benfica have their best players on the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:48:19 PM
Old fashioned 'equaliser' by Luke Young.
The guy marking Heskey is a bit agricultural. He must be close to getting a card.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
im reffering too the stream not the game :-)
He he.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 09:49:36 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
Problem is Karl, Benfica have their best players on the bench.
And two of ours aren't even on the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on August 01, 2010, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
I hate this f'ing orange ball.
Looking at how it comes off Ashley's foot it could be a Wembley Trophy.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 09:50:47 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Old fashioned 'equaliser' by Luke Young.
The guy marking Heskey is a bit agricultural. He must be close to getting a card.
That's the guy interesting Real Madrid and Chelsea at £30million.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
Problem is Karl, Benfica have their best players on the bench.
Well, they are playing Aimar, Saviola. However, no Ramires, no Gaitan - not great for us. It's 4-4-fucking-2 again, and uninspired.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Quote from: "gibbo"
its so annoying last night wasnt too bad. but its shite tonight!
I arrived at HT last night and it was all doom and gloom, saying how shite we were. This could be a game of two halves. It's the old rope a dope trick.
Problem is Karl, Benfica have their best players on the bench.
And two of ours aren't even on the bench.
Rumour has it, one's at the airport.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: "Beijing Villan"
Aftab - you an expert on German porn ??!
A sort of dab hand rather than expert!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:51:47 PM
The ref is an arse.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:51:48 PM
These officials are doing my swede in.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
Excellent Aftab - that made me laugh.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 09:52:50 PM
the person hosting the stream is a fucking bluenose? what kind of idiot streams your arch rivals games!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
shit
2-0
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:53:31 PM
Brad, Brad, Brad...push it out of the path of goal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 09:53:45 PM
Knock it AWAY from goal Brad!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Namlod on August 01, 2010, 09:53:54 PM
What a great strike!
2-0
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on August 01, 2010, 09:53:54 PM
poorish goalkeeping there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:53:55 PM
Damn 2-0
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 09:53:55 PM
oh dear Brad
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 01, 2010, 09:54:05 PM
Brad fucked up there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
too easy. Should never be giving up rebounds like that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 09:54:17 PM
Brad Jr would have saved that properly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:54:23 PM
Bugger, two-nil.
Fridel's goalkeeping wasn't grrrrreat there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
They are a class above us im afraid
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:55:28 PM
Ash is fucked.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:55:30 PM
Brad must have played vollyball once ...he set that one up nicely
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:55:33 PM
They're passing the ball around, we're not.
I know it is pre-season and you really can't draw too many conclusions from it, but I'm not really foreseeing any major changes in the way we play next season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
Not great from Friedel that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on August 01, 2010, 09:55:48 PM
...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 09:56:14 PM
At least is putting in the work. What's that blue thing on his knee? I mean, how effective is that really?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on August 01, 2010, 09:56:27 PM
Think Man City would throw in Joe Hart?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 09:56:40 PM
2-0 down, pre-season...take Ash off, ffs.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on August 01, 2010, 09:56:44 PM
How anybody can say our fans are f i c k l e is unbelievable. For so many to buy season tickets with no incoming players and another season of very dull football on the horizon is very commendable....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
They're passing the ball around, we're not.
I know it is pre-season and you really can't draw too many conclusions from it, but I'm not really foreseeing any major changes in the way we play next season.
By contrast, we passed it around loads last night.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on August 01, 2010, 09:57:23 PM
Why did the player have so much time to have a shot in the first place, basically our midfield is 'poor'!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tsvet on August 01, 2010, 09:57:37 PM
I hope Martin sees the light!...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
Portugese season starts next week i think so Benfica are ahead of us in fitness terms ..OK in class as well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 09:57:49 PM
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Brad Jr would have saved that properly.
He only saves Penalties, doesn't make any other saves.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:58:06 PM
As usual... we don't look like scoring. I know it's only pre-season but if we don't sign a forward by the end of the transfer window I'll be miserable.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Brad Jr would have saved that properly.
He only saves Penalties, doesn't make any other saves.
Did he save any in that shoot-out last night?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 09:58:40 PM
It's a bit like watching england in the world cup isnt it
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:58:44 PM
Two soft offsides against the Fonz. Pre-season doziness.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:58:48 PM
Yellow card... in a friendly? This ref is useless.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
As usual... we don't look like scoring. I know it's only pre-season but if we don't sign a forward by the end of the transfer window I'll be miserable.
To hell with the forwards, you could have Pele and Puskas up front and it would make no difference the way we play sometimes. We need to keep the ball - as Benfica are showing us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 09:59:02 PM
Cracking tackle by Dunne.... Not!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 01, 2010, 09:59:25 PM
That was an uncompromising tackle from Dunne.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
At least is putting in the work. What's that blue thing on his knee? I mean, how effective is that really?
Think it's a target zone for defenders' studs
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 09:59:44 PM
Terrible challenge. I reckon this is going in
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
3-0.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
Dunne can't complain about the yellow, that was a scything tackle.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 09:59:54 PM
3-0
Great strike.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 09:59:57 PM
This could get embarrassing
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
They're just brilliant. That's about all you can say.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
Feyenoond are eliminated from the cup after losing last nigh and NOT winning pens. So tonigh when Benfica win it goes to pens
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
we do look shite tonight! 3 nil down!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:00:30 PM
Oh ffs. I said earlier I thought we were going to get spanked.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:00:38 PM
We are going to get a tonking me thinks. Is that ball invisible when in the air?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 01, 2010, 10:00:42 PM
Great free kick. unstoppable.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 10:00:47 PM
Fuck no stopping that, could be a rout!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
Ooh, lovely free kick that.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 10:01:06 PM
Hopefully Benfica will play like this in Europe and knock all of Tyldesley's favourites out.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:01:10 PM
3-0 down it's not looking good
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:01:11 PM
Joe Hart in the Milner deal anybody?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:01:35 PM
Looks like we are trying to take as many of them out as we can....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:01:42 PM
Petrov could have easily gone for that tackle.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: frank on August 01, 2010, 10:01:50 PM
Great free kick. Why can't we take them like that?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:01:56 PM
Bloody hell Petrov, that was a bit high.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 10:02:03 PM
That was a cracking free kick, Brad had no chance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on August 01, 2010, 10:02:10 PM
The only thing worse than us so far is the ref.....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 01, 2010, 10:02:12 PM
This is a bit poor isn't it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:02:20 PM
I had a feeling we'd get stuffed tonight.
Any chance of a turn around? Doubt it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 10:02:20 PM
I like the Coventry goalkeeper, have forgotten his name though. We could keep up our tradition of buying Coventry players and get him for about £3 million I reckon.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Karl Bridges"
Brad Jr would have saved that properly.
He only saves Penalties, doesn't make any other saves.
That save last night in the last minute was top drawer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
They're just brilliant. That's about all you can say.
Wish we were creative like them..... Dunne is a liability!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:03:11 PM
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
I like the Coventry goalkeeper, have forgotten his name though. We could keep up our tradition of buying Coventry players and get him for about £3 million I reckon.
Keiran Westwood.
Wished I didn't do all my fucking work early to see this bollocks.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Half time. Gash.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on August 01, 2010, 10:03:20 PM
Nothing you can do about strikes like that... except don't concede the free kick in the first place and get Ashley to watch how to take a free kick!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 01, 2010, 10:03:36 PM
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
I like the Coventry goalkeeper, have forgotten his name though. We could keep up our tradition of buying Coventry players and get him for about £3 million I reckon.
Kieron Westwood is it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:03:51 PM
We are shit ma lord, we are shit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
I had a feeling we'd get stuffed tonight.
Any chance of a turn around? Doubt it.
What 4 goals can't see us getting 1!
The orange ball is really hard to see i hate it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:04:23 PM
Hope we bring our first XI on in the 2nd half.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:05:01 PM
They are a different class to us to be honest. I know this is a friendly tournament but does anyone really think we could hold our own in the champions league if we had qualified?
Title: hard run
Post by: miss villa on August 01, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
A much harder game than last night. Clearly they devised a cunning strategy to make sure Marc Albrighton is barely getting a lookin. Brad is totally exposed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Hope we bring our first XI on in the 2nd half.
I hope they don't bring theirs on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 01, 2010, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Hope we bring our first XI on in the 2nd half.
I don't know how to break this awful news to you but.....this may well be it, close to it anyway.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 10:05:44 PM
If it wasn't just a pre-season knockabout, this would be embarrassing. As it is, it just shows how a well drilled team who can pass and move will nearly always win over a team with no creativity in midfield.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: "D.boy"
They are a different class to us to be honest. I know this is a friendly tournament but does anyone really think we could hold our own in the champions league if we had qualified?
something tells me Spurs are about to find out the same thing
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:06:22 PM
and why 4-4-2 is dead
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:06:26 PM
We can't be that bad, the saviour that is Luke Young is playing...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 10:06:40 PM
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: "Holtenderinthesky"
Quote from: "cdvillafan"
I like the Coventry goalkeeper, have forgotten his name though. We could keep up our tradition of buying Coventry players and get him for about £3 million I reckon.
Kieron Westwood is it?
That's him cheers.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
We are shit ma lord, we are shit.
Knock it out on the wing ma lord Then try to cross it in ma lord Oh nobody's there ma lord same old shit ma lord.................
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:07:22 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
If it wasn't just a pre-season knockabout, this would be embarrassing. As it is, it just shows how a well drilled team who can pass and move will nearly always win over a team with no creativity in midfield.
It is just preseason, so has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but we are doing "our thing" that we do in the season proper. Maybe not as well as we do it when we're up to scratch training wise, but that's the way we play.
Like you said, passing and movement will win out more times than not.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 01, 2010, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
If it wasn't just a pre-season knockabout, this would be embarrassing. As it is, it just shows how a well drilled team who can pass and move will nearly always win over a team with no creativity in midfield.
All Sidwell has done is pass the ball backwards. There is nothing coming from the midfield.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
Don't worry, we'll change our tune when Benfica implode.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 10:07:42 PM
Losing a friendly with alot of our first team missing against a side way better than us.
Poor performance but no big deal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 10:07:55 PM
I thought Luke had a decent half. he certainly had a lot to do as our midfield have done fuck all to stop them attacking.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Hope we bring our first XI on in the 2nd half.
I hope they don't bring theirs on.
scary ain't it? Interesting to see what changes are made and our response. Pre-season friendly or not, I want to see some desire and effort in the 2nd half. Try and win the 2nd half at least.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:08:13 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "D.boy"
They are a different class to us to be honest. I know this is a friendly tournament but does anyone really think we could hold our own in the champions league if we had qualified?
something tells me Spurs are about to find out the same thing
i dont they have a manager who isnt stuck in 70's thinking is is Cloughie,
plus they played us off the park last season home and away!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on August 01, 2010, 10:08:22 PM
Al least now they are winning easily, they should bring on some subs and go easy on us... so we may get a consolation goal!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
and why 4-4-2 is dead
Remind me again how Inter won the Champion's League?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
Yay.
Quick, slag four of our players off, we can still turn this around.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 01, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
yeah this is pretty shit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
see that's the difference. Ours are when we're losing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:09:45 PM
I'm failing to see, yet again, the worth in persisting with Heskey. His main strength, if it can be described as such, is meant to be the hassle he gives defenders. He hasn't done that and his nonexistent pace is embarassing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tsvet on August 01, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Hope they step off the pedal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Hope we bring our first XI on in the 2nd half.
I hope they don't bring theirs on.
scary ain't it? Interesting to see what changes are made and our response. Pre-season friendly or not, I want to see some desire and effort in the 2nd half. Try and win the 2nd half at least.
I don't think it is about effort and desire, it is the way we play which worries me. That's the limiting factor.
On the bright side, I like the look of Albrighton, and Stan is putting in a shift.
There's not a keeper on earth (well, in England) that would have stopped their third goal, but Brad looked a bit iffy for the second.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:10:13 PM
Inter? They played 4-3-3, with Eto'o and Pandev wide of Milito, Sneijder on the number 10 role and two defensive midfielders .
Why? ;-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2010, 10:10:34 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "D.boy"
They are a different class to us to be honest. I know this is a friendly tournament but does anyone really think we could hold our own in the champions league if we had qualified?
something tells me Spurs are about to find out the same thing
i dont they have a manager who isnt stuck in 70's thinking is is Cloughie,
plus they played us off the park last season home and away!
And got an absolute shoeing by a team not as good as the one we're playing tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:10:49 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
and why 4-4-2 is dead
Remind me again how Inter won the Champion's League?
Certainly not with 4-4-2.
I remember Milito, Pandev and another guy up top so I guess it was 4-3-3.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
Saying it as we see it. Yes it's just a friendly, but we are just commenting on what we see on the pitch, and as it stands there were very few positives in our first half performance. It might not matter come the start of the season but in a match thread you can't expect many positive comments when the team are 3-0 down and getting completely outplayed!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 01, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
and why 4-4-2 is dead
Remind me again how Inter won the Champion's League?
10 men behind the ball, dive every oppurtunity and catch on the counter!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 10:11:10 PM
Whats tge score lads jus signed in ??
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
see that's the difference. Ours are when we're losing.
bit slow on the uptake? tonto
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I'm failing to see, yet again, the worth in persisting with Heskey. His main strength, if it can be described as such, is meant to be the hassle he gives defenders. He hasn't done that and his nonexistent pace is embarassing.
They've fouled him about 20 times in the first half. So he is doing that job. Heskey is far from the main person to be blaming for this poor performance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I'm failing to see, yet again, the worth in persisting with Heskey. His main strength, if it can be described as such, is meant to be the hassle he gives defenders. He hasn't done that and his nonexistent pace is embarassing.
They've fouled him about 20 times in the first half. So he is doing that job. Heskey is far from the main person to be blaming for this poor performance.
You can't blame him, but only in the sense that he's anonymous.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
They were better than us over the course of the season and finished in the CL places, we didn't.
Also - and I find the idea of Spurs doing anything in the CL about as appealing as having molten lead injected into my eye sockets - their brand of football has more of a chance of doing something in that competition than our horrible, 1980s nonsense.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "D.boy"
They are a different class to us to be honest. I know this is a friendly tournament but does anyone really think we could hold our own in the champions league if we had qualified?
something tells me Spurs are about to find out the same thing
i dont they have a manager who isnt stuck in 70's thinking is is Cloughie,
plus they played us off the park last season home and away!
they did? I can't remember them beating us. I know this is pretty poor, but didn't Spurs just lose 4-1 at home to Villareal? A team that finished 7th in La Liga. At least Benfica won the Portugese league last year.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I'm failing to see, yet again, the worth in persisting with Heskey. His main strength, if it can be described as such, is meant to be the hassle he gives defenders. He hasn't done that and his nonexistent pace is embarassing.
They've fouled him about 20 times in the first half. So he is doing that job. Heskey is far from the main person to be blaming for this poor performance.
You can't blame him, but only in the sense that he's anonymous.
Less so than Delfouneso I thought in the first half.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Inter? They played 4-3-3, with Eto'o and Pandev wide of Milito, Sneijder on the number 10 role and two defensive midfielders .
Why? ;-)
That was genuine question. I thought they played Eto and Mijlito up front and would you say Spain played most games with 2 (Villa & Torres) up?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I'm failing to see, yet again, the worth in persisting with Heskey. His main strength, if it can be described as such, is meant to be the hassle he gives defenders. He hasn't done that and his nonexistent pace is embarassing.
They've fouled him about 20 times in the first half. So he is doing that job. Heskey is far from the main person to be blaming for this poor performance.
You can't blame him, but only in the sense that he's anonymous.
heskey has played better than Fonz though
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
Quote from: "Goldie.7"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
We are shit ma lord, we are shit.
Knock it out on the wing ma lord Then try to cross it in ma lord Oh nobody's there ma lord same old shit ma lord.................
So true.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on August 01, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
second half started yet ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 10:13:50 PM
What is the score lads?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
they finished 4th mate, we finished 6th.
but dont worry we didnt loose many.
Spurs out played us both games!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Heskey looks sharp and fit.
Sidwell and Delfouneso haven't touched the ball have they?
The defending this pre-season has been piss poor.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Whats tge score lads jus signed in ??
4-3 to us.
Benfica raced to a three goal lead, then Heskey hit a hatrick (third one an audacious lob from the halfway line), and a Shorey curler from 30 yards.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
What is the score lads?
3-0 down
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2010, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
What is the score lads?
3-0
Not to us
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
see that's the difference. Ours are when we're losing.
bit slow on the uptake? tonto
nothing slow about me, pigeon boy. But it surprises nobody on here that you'd show up when we're losing. Actually we're all glad because we need you to slag off some of our players to help turn the tide. Are you playing in your mum's basement again today with gregnash and Coopers Injury?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2010, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Whats tge score lads jus signed in ??
it's a pre-season friendly ..score is not important we are getting a good work out tonight!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Inter? They played 4-3-3, with Eto'o and Pandev wide of Milito, Sneijder on the number 10 role and two defensive midfielders .
Why? ;-)
That was genuine question. I thought they played Eto and Mijlito up front and would you say Spain played most games with 2 (Villa & Torres) up?
Hardly an orthodox 4-4-2, though, is it? Villa and Torres drift all over the place, so you end up with one centre-forward at most times anyway.
Besides, they went to 4-3-3 and played their best stuff with that system. 4-4-2, in the 1970s way we're playing it, is utterly redundant and totally dead.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
Anyone got a working stream? my iraqgoals and veetle streams seem to have stopped working
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:16:28 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
They were better than us over the course of the season and finished in the CL places, we didn't.
Also - and I find the idea of Spurs doing anything in the CL about as appealing as having molten lead injected into my eye sockets - their brand of football has more of a chance of doing something in that competition than our horrible, 1980s nonsense.
What annoys me about Villa playing against quality opposition like this is that I never get the feeling they're going to spring a surprise result. When Liverpool take a team back to Anfield having to overturn a deficit you just know they'll do it 9 times out of 10. I get that same feeling about Tottenham unfortunately. But Villa? Nah.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
What is the score lads?
3-0
Not to us
Pualiewlnuts said we are winning 4-3
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
What is the score lads?
3-0
Not to us
Pualiewlnuts said we are winning 4-3
have a glass of water
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: tsvet on August 01, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
http://skytux2.fr.tt/
This one is playing fluently but very poor quality.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
They were better than us over the course of the season and finished in the CL places, we didn't.
Also - and I find the idea of Spurs doing anything in the CL about as appealing as having molten lead injected into my eye sockets - their brand of football has more of a chance of doing something in that competition than our horrible, 1980s nonsense.
What annoys me about Villa playing against quality opposition like this is that I never get the feeling they're going to spring a surprise result. When Liverpool take a team back to Anfield having to overturn a deficit you just know they'll do it 9 times out of 10. I get that same feeling about Tottenham unfortunately. But Villa? Nah.
That's not really based on facts, though. We do spring suprise results a lot of the time. Liverpool away, Man Utd away - they do happen. It's beating West Ham, Wolves, Sunderland at home that's the problem.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Heskey looks sharp and fit.
Sidwell and Delfouneso haven't touched the ball have they?
The defending this pre-season has been piss poor.
That's been the bigger concern for me also. Mind you had Cuellar started at RB and Collins been fit there would have been an uproar. Not that I don't think we don't need to find a good RB, but we look weaker defensively for him not being there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Anyone got a working stream? my iraqgoals and veetle streams seem to have stopped working
http://www.justin.tv/fatbrummie
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Aimar has just been telling Big John where the best strip clubs are locally by the looks of it. Our Norweigian striker looks quite pleased.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 10:18:54 PM
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: "tsvet"
http://skytux2.fr.tt/
This one is playing fluently but very poor quality.
cheers
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
30-0 to benfica
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
27-0
To us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 01, 2010, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
3-0 to benfica
Are we playing shit ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:20:47 PM
Note to all - Luke Young being sucked helplessly out of position and conceding a chance.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 01, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
they finished 4th mate, we finished 6th.
but dont worry we didnt loose many.
Spurs out played us both games!
I know, but I'm biased (arent you ?) but we both got to an FA Cup semi where they lost to the worst premier league side of the season and we lost to the champs. we got to Carling final, they came 4th. I would say we had the better season.
But I'm a biased fan on a Villa website
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:21:21 PM
Arse.
Changed cpmputers, can't be fucked to page through the thread looking for the Veetle link, has anyone got it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:21:49 PM
Oh dear, Delf has been absolute garbage unfortunately
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 10:21:53 PM
3-0 to them. First was a horrible deflection, Brad had no chance. Second was a 30 yard shot that Brad knocked out to an inrushing striker who slotted it away. Third was a corking free kick after Dunne scythed down one of their boys on the edge of the box.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
3-0 to benfica
Are we playing shit ?
No, we're playing Benfica
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:22:09 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Arse.
Changed cpmputers, can't be fucked to page through the thread looking for the Veetle link, has anyone got it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:22:25 PM
I'm afraid that was embarrassing from Davies.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:22:34 PM
Damn
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:22:35 PM
4-0
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
see that's the difference. Ours are when we're losing.
bit slow on the uptake? tonto
nothing slow about me, pigeon boy. But it surprises nobody on here that you'd show up when we're losing. Actually we're all glad because we need you to slag off some of our players to help turn the tide. Are you playing in your mum's basement again today with gregnash and Coopers Injury?
crikey thats so funny, i bet you have the Friends DVD box set
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
I want a real score lads im being told different scorelines lets hear a proper one please?
3-0 to benfica
Are we playing shit ?
At 4-0 what do you think?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Davies is really shit..........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
Davies just got fucking schooled. We're getting murdered.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:23:03 PM
4-0.
Curtis Davies is Blues.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
I'm giving up.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
Fucking fucking fucking fuck.
Wish I hadn't bothered.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: frank on August 01, 2010, 10:23:20 PM
This is awful
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
its like a fifa game the way the goals are going in
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:23:24 PM
MON out.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:23:29 PM
pub player there curtis. I think I'd like this to end soon
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Arse.
Changed cpmputers, can't be fucked to page through the thread looking for the Veetle link, has anyone got it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on August 01, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
Davis = Pub Player
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:23:44 PM
Quote from: avfc-mullins
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "avfc-mullins"
What is the score lads?
3-0
Not to us
Pualiewlnuts said we are winning 4-3[/quote Don't read the tale of Chicken Licken whatever you do. Winky thing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 10:23:44 PM
Jimmy Saville makes it 4.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2010, 10:23:45 PM
Stay away from ssn tonight and all of tomorrow!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on August 01, 2010, 10:23:46 PM
Bloody hell.
We are all over the place. Not at all organised.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
I'm afraid that was embarrassing from Davies.
It certainly was. Kind of fucks up the idea of putting him in the shop window a tad
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 10:24:13 PM
Dear Jimmy, can you fit it for me to...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
i cant believe some of the negative comments on here
see that's the difference. Ours are when we're losing.
bit slow on the uptake? tonto
nothing slow about me, pigeon boy. But it surprises nobody on here that you'd show up when we're losing. Actually we're all glad because we need you to slag off some of our players to help turn the tide. Are you playing in your mum's basement again today with gregnash and Coopers Injury?
crikey thats so funny, i bet you have the Friends DVD box set
huh? That's not even an intellgent, funny or a remotely witty retort.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 01, 2010, 10:24:27 PM
I reckon they'll get 6.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: "frank"
This is awful
It is Frank but it's no surprise.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on August 01, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Quote from: "Monty"
I'm afraid that was embarrassing from Davies.
It certainly was. Kind of fucks up the idea of putting him in the shop window a tad
Unless it's Round Pounds.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:25:17 PM
EWvery time the camera pulls away, they've 'won' the ball back
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
they finished 4th mate, we finished 6th.
but dont worry we didnt loose many.
Spurs out played us both games!
I know, but I'm biased (arent you ?) but we both got to an FA Cup semi where they lost to the worst premier league side of the season and we lost to the champs. we got to Carling final, they came 4th. I would say we had the better season.
But I'm a biased fan on a Villa website
4 nil now!
mate we won fuck all last season, but i am getting abit jealous of spurs because Harry seems too see what he needs to do and does even if he upsets players, whereas Martin is the oposite!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:25:37 PM
we are well out of our depth here. The lads look shell shocked. We can't get the ball of them.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:25:38 PM
Quote from: "Bren_d"
I reckon they'll get 6.
Always the optimist, Bren. (winky)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:25:48 PM
come on Villa-bit of pride lads!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on August 01, 2010, 10:26:13 PM
Clark on for Dunne, Guzan on for Freidel
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:26:23 PM
has downing been on from the start?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:26:23 PM
This defence is a joke.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:26:24 PM
Curtis Davies is a massive liability
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on August 01, 2010, 10:26:24 PM
Jesus, what a pile of crap.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:26:47 PM
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:27:04 PM
I've opened the work document and I'm going to do some work.
Now watch us win 5-4.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pmk1981 on August 01, 2010, 10:27:10 PM
They have had 2 games in 2 days. Benfica didn't play yesterday did they ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
All about the fitness lads....it's all about the fitness..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:27:41 PM
christ, almost 5. We're absolutely all over the place. I'm hoping this is mostly down to 2 games in 2 days, but I've definitely got a nagging feeling this season will be a bit of a disaster and Mon's last
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: "pmk1981"
They have had 2 games in 2 days. Benfica didn't play yesterday did they ?
Still, this is piss poor.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
cheers. I just noticed him...thought I would enquire before raving
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on August 01, 2010, 10:28:40 PM
Right that's enough for me. Night chaps.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:28:44 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
Quote from: "gibbo"
Quote from: "andrew08"
sigh... did I miss spurs outplaying us last season then as well. oh forget they were 40 points ahead of us.Not
they finished 4th mate, we finished 6th.
but dont worry we didnt loose many.
Spurs out played us both games!
I know, but I'm biased (arent you ?) but we both got to an FA Cup semi where they lost to the worst premier league side of the season and we lost to the champs. we got to Carling final, they came 4th. I would say we had the better season.
But I'm a biased fan on a Villa website
No offence, but that's the most ridiculous post I've seen on here in a long, long time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:28:47 PM
I missed Top Gear to watch this!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: "pmk1981"
They have had 2 games in 2 days. Benfica didn't play yesterday did they ?
No, and it likely does make a difference. Benfica would be more used to these conditions also. Still taking that aside we're doing ourselves any favours at all, especially ball retention and defensively. Thank fuck most of the Premier League isn't close to this standard.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:29:10 PM
was that our first shot on target, from sidders?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:29:16 PM
Carew on for Delfouneso
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:29:35 PM
and heskey stays on....he does create sighs of the highest velocity does oneil
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Davies has hasn't he?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 10:29:58 PM
On the bright side (he says, searching for positives) if we had breezed through this game we would have been left with a false sense of expectation. Getting tonked highlights our lack of midfield abilities. Doesn't hurt to remind MON what is needed.
Also, Hokey-Cokey looks up for it this evening.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Davies has hasn't he?
Came on for Cuellar after 10 mins or so.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Davies has hasn't he?
alas, yes...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on August 01, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
christ, almost 5. We're absolutely all over the place. I'm hoping this is mostly down to 2 games in 2 days, but I've definitely got a nagging feeling this season will be a bit of a disaster and Mon's last
I've got a nagging feeling that people are going to go totally over the top tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Davies has hasn't he?
Came on for Cuellar after 10 mins or so.
Oh dear. Injury?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: "D.boy"
I missed Top Gear to watch this!
Me too.
I could have watched Sherlock too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Has their keeper made a save?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
All about the fitness lads....it's all about the fitness..
Well it was never going to be about tactics.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
and heskey stays on....he does create sighs of the highest velocity does oneil
Errm, wasn't Heskey taken off at half time?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
has downing been on from the start?
No, neither Davies or NRC
Davies has hasn't he?
Came on for Cuellar after 10 mins or so.
Oh dear. Injury?
I don't know, my feed was playing up.
I just saw a load of freezes, then a kind of pixellated mosaic, then half the screen did a blending thing, then, to top it all, when it came back, Curtis Davies was coming on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: "Pete3206"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
christ, almost 5. We're absolutely all over the place. I'm hoping this is mostly down to 2 games in 2 days, but I've definitely got a nagging feeling this season will be a bit of a disaster and Mon's last
I've got a nagging feeling that people are going to go totally over the top tonight.
Aye.
I can feel it in me water.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Carew on for Delfouneso
heskey and ash went off for nrc and downing at half time
then carew for delboy
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
All about the fitness lads....it's all about the fitness..
Well it was never going to be about tactics.
Tactics..hmmm rings a bell...the little minty sweets right?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on August 01, 2010, 10:33:19 PM
Barry Bannan would do a better job in defence than davis has
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 01, 2010, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: "D.boy"
I missed Top Gear to watch this!
Every cloud.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
We hit the bar then, from a cross.
Typical.
Cross, cross fucking cross.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "Axl Rose"
and heskey stays on....he does create sighs of the highest velocity does oneil
Errm, wasn't Heskey taken off at half time?
:) deary me...apologies! I thought he was still on
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:34:17 PM
I'm not over-reacting to tonight's game. It's a friendly, most of their goals came from long range one way or the other, and we must be knackered.
It's more that I wonder how long we can keep on playing at full pelt, getting off to strong starts to the season, playing the same side each game and hiding some pretty notable deficiencies in our game. I also have a feeling that MON is losing his fight and belief a bit too.
Plus I feel a bit weary at the thought of watching us play the same style of football for another season
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:35:04 PM
Been knocking about a little bit better last 5 minutes...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:35:24 PM
Absolutely everything (and there's not much of it) down the wings. Just for a change.
Preseason is preseason, but I think we can forget about MON having had any footballing Damascene conversion this summer.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:35:33 PM
please dont lose to west ham...there will be a serious depression amongst Villa fans
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:36:06 PM
Plenty of sideways passes.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 10:36:27 PM
Luke Young might be a good player, but if he is then he ain't half a jinx.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on August 01, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
No need to go over the top pete, this is no surprise to many of us who have already seen through o neill and his overrated reputation, even those who still think he's the bees knees are gradually seeing that he isn't all he's cracked up to be , and he will never get us in the top 4, mon is stuck in a timewarp and far too old school for the modern game.
At least next season we can look forward to the transfer window because I cannot see mr o neill being here this time next year, I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see him taking us higher than he has done.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:37:28 PM
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: "D.boy"
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Lucky you. Still works for me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 01, 2010, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: "D.boy"
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Mine too.
Bugger;-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 01, 2010, 10:39:34 PM
I m going to sound really bad here but I was only saying today I hope we got well beaten as it may hopefully wake the manager up into the fact that we need players in and quickly. I m not gonna be over the top even if we were to lose 10 as it really is about fitness and 2 games in too days etc. However I m glad I m not renewing my season ticket as I m just a bit "meh" with Villa at the moment. I m sorry for the negativity
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "D.boy"
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:40:31 PM
Beautiful bit of skill from Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 01, 2010, 10:40:36 PM
I know, but I'm biased (arent you ?) but we both got to an FA Cup semi where they lost to the worst premier league side of the season and we lost to the champs. we got to Carling final, they came 4th. I would say we had the better season.
But I'm a biased fan on a Villa website[/quote]
No offence, but that's the most ridiculous post I've seen on here in a long, long time.[/quote]
Not offended at all.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "D.boy"
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Mine too.
Bugger;-)
Mine died at half time. I'm watching here: http://skytux2.fr.tt/
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Luke Young might be a good player, but if he is then he ain't half a jinx.
Cantarguewiththat.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:41:27 PM
4-1 Carew
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
The fight back begins. Get in!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:41:44 PM
Absolutely sublime big JC...brilliant finish!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 10:41:51 PM
Yeeeeeeah!
Fightback starts now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:41:58 PM
nice goal JC!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:42:01 PM
Well done, Big John.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Great goal by Big John
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 10:42:05 PM
YYYYEEEEESSS
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 10:42:11 PM
Nice calm finish by Carew.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Andyg on August 01, 2010, 10:42:15 PM
Its a goal
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 01, 2010, 10:42:17 PM
caaaaarrrrrrreeeeeeeeewwwwww
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:42:26 PM
Say what you like about him, he's a fucking talented footballer when he wants to show it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: frank on August 01, 2010, 10:42:40 PM
Nicely taken, Big John
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 10:42:57 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Quote from: "Percy"
Quote from: "D.boy"
Iraq goals has died (which may not be a bad thing at the moment).
Mine too.
Bugger;-)
Mine died at half time. I'm watching here: http://skytux2.fr.tt/
Cheers, logged in to see Carew score.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:43:04 PM
a goal
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Jim™ on August 01, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
Carew's looked good this pre-season. Hope he stays fit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:43:51 PM
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
been v impressed with veetle. But not sure how to find the games uinless someone posts the link?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 10:44:52 PM
Tell you what BJC looks very sharp and up for it
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 01, 2010, 10:45:24 PM
Hey guys 4-1, good as Spurs now ;-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: "Jim™"
Carew's looked good this pre-season. Hope he stays fit.
Look like he's rolled back 5 years!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
nearly carew again there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:46:33 PM
Unlucky JC!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:47:22 PM
I think I'd play Carew up top, with Young, Albrighton and Downing behind him, against West Ham.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:47:26 PM
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 10:47:43 PM
Lovely, Dunne asked Carew if he wanted the ball on his chest. Then gets it spot on to his chest.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:48:15 PM
Luke Young has been living up to the criticisms of him like a stereotype. He jumps in so poorly, no positional sense whatsoever. By contrast, Petrov's looked our only footballer worth of the name at times, the rest can be so rudimentary on the ball.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on August 01, 2010, 10:49:08 PM
JC looks/works/scores like a centre forward should do!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Luke Young has been living up to the criticisms of him like a stereotype. He jumps in so poorly, no positional sense whatsoever. By contrast, Petrov's looked our only footballer worth of the name at times, the rest can be so rudimentary on the ball.
Plus ca change.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:49:22 PM
I don't know if the transfer will come to pass but David Luiz will fit right in at Chelsea. A great player, but also a fouling, whinging arsehole.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 01, 2010, 10:50:08 PM
Where is Agbonlahor?
Hasn't featured in pre-season?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 10:50:16 PM
has anyone else watching on the veetle coverage noticed the chat thing on the right of the screen? the username with the title 'yourdadsbellend'.....it brought a smile to my face...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:51:20 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Monty"
Luke Young has been living up to the criticisms of him like a stereotype. He jumps in so poorly, no positional sense whatsoever. By contrast, Petrov's looked our only footballer worth of the name at times, the rest can be so rudimentary on the ball.
Plus ca change.
I'll tell you what else change. Reo-Coker is unbelievably poor on the ball. Like, unacceptably bad.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2010, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: "eric woolban woolban"
Where is Agbonlahor?
Hasn't featured in pre-season?
I thought he had played pretty much every game until this evening.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
What a great pass from their goalkeeper Roberto.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2010, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 10:51:47 PM
Looking at the score and performance, we fit in with the likes of Feyenoord, but are clearly a class below the top European teams. We're Europa League standard right now, and it shows both domestically and in games against European teams with significantly more technical ability.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
NRC would be a good player if he had even the most average of passing ability. I'd still play him ahead of Sidders though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 01, 2010, 10:52:28 PM
Been wondering for years where Tony Morleys hair was, the Benfica coach had it all along .
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:52:32 PM
Have we had a 50/50 go our way tonight?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: frank on August 01, 2010, 10:53:17 PM
Not impressed by Brad tonight
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
We beat Feyenoord's U19 team.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
Yeah but most their goals have come from shots outside the box...and West Ham have Der Hammer!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Carew did play the lone frontman for Valencia when they won the league though. But I suspect you're right, and Martin likes him with a nippy front man.
I was surprised at how poor Delf was tonight in terms of his touch
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
NRC would be a good player if he had even the most average of passing ability. I'd still play him ahead of Sidders though.
Sidwell is incredibly anonymous. I spent ten minutes watching this, trying to work out from what I saw and heard, who was in the middle with Petrov.
I saw his goal yesterday, very well taken, but the bloke is absolutely fucking pointless. He contributed shit all last season other than that ball boy routine, and if he stays, I expect him to contribute the same.
It's all very well us going on about our deadwood we want to shift out, but who is going to actually want them?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 10:54:41 PM
Have to say, you know you're in trouble when the area of your team with the most positional interchanges is the defence.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Carew isn't mobile enough anymore to play there, and Gabby is vital to our style of play IMO.
I'd still keep him as an impact sub for now, with the odd run here and there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:55:03 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
We beat Feyenoord's U19 team.
A mixture of our first team and under 19s beat their under 19s.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
This ref is exceptionally bad, nearly as bad as us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 10:56:46 PM
Was it really THAT much of a youth team for Feyenoord?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Monty"
Luke Young has been living up to the criticisms of him like a stereotype. He jumps in so poorly, no positional sense whatsoever. By contrast, Petrov's looked our only footballer worth of the name at times, the rest can be so rudimentary on the ball.
Plus ca change.
I'll tell you what else change. Reo-Coker is unbelievably poor on the ball. Like, unacceptably bad.
Admittedly it's a change in our team but it's hardly a surprise that he is like that. Without exception the most frustrating player we've had in a long time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Carew isn't mobile enough anymore to play there, and Gabby is vital to our style of play IMO.
I'd still keep him as an impact sub for now, with the odd run here and there.
Keep Him? He deserves to start, along with Albrighton he's been the our best player this pre-season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 10:57:26 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
We beat Feyenoord's U19 team.
A mixture of our first team and under 19s beat their under 19s.
I won't be basing my impressions of the season on tonight any more than I would base them on last night.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Would MON play JC as the lone striker ahead of Gabby? Discuss....
Not for me, Carew is much better in a two.
I wouldn't worry too much, Benfica are an excellent team, much better than what West Ham will come up with. I say that without knowing if the likes of Cardozo, Saviola, Aimar and David Luiz are playing? If not then time to worry but we did beat Feyenoord 3-1 last night so I wouldn't be slitting my wrists at this.
We beat Feyenoord's U19 team.
A mixture of our first team and under 19s beat their under 19s.
You make it up as you go along?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Carew isn't mobile enough anymore to play there, and Gabby is vital to our style of play IMO.
I'd still keep him as an impact sub for now, with the odd run here and there.
Keep Him? He deserves to start, along with Albrighton he's been the our best player this pre-season.
Don't disagree, but Heskey was on fire last pre-season IIRC.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Carew isn't mobile enough anymore to play there, and Gabby is vital to our style of play IMO.
I'd still keep him as an impact sub for now, with the odd run here and there.
Keep Him? He deserves to start, along with Albrighton he's been the our best player this pre-season.
Don't disagree, but Heskey was on fire last pre-season IIRC.
Albrighton was excellent last pre-season as well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:00:12 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Was it really THAT much of a youth team for Feyenoord?
Yup, apart from the 42 year old goalkeeper and the left back.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 11:00:56 PM
I quite like Downing as a player, but he is totally one footed. A professional earning 30K plus a week and all he can use is his left, ludicrous.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
I don't remember anybody mentioning the Feyenoord U19 thing at all last night. It's come as a complete surprise to me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 11:03:13 PM
That's really quite a staggering miss by Sidwell. I mean, I know it's on the turn and everything, but to get it that far over he's got to have been trying.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 11:03:15 PM
I think Downing's been pretty good actually. Not amazing, but decent.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2010, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I don't remember anybody mentioning the Feyenoord U19 thing at all last night. It's come as a complete surprise to me.
a win is a win, you can only beat whats put in front of you etc.....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Beijing Villan on August 01, 2010, 11:03:35 PM
Don't worry lads, we'll win on penalties!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 01, 2010, 11:03:43 PM
That just about sums Sidwell up for me
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: miss villa on August 01, 2010, 11:03:57 PM
carew is pretty much on fire and he's made all the difference to us...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:04:45 PM
Carew is like Rambo, fighting everybody that gets in his way and Dunne takes out three in one go.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 01, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
Fucking hell Dunney.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 11:05:08 PM
Carew's looked proper sharp this pre-season. Let's hope it's not just a passing fad.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: wozwebs on August 01, 2010, 11:05:45 PM
is there another shoot-out?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 01, 2010, 11:06:16 PM
Who's on the floor injured?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 11:07:04 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Carew is like Rambo, fighting everybody that gets in his way and Dunne takes out three in one go.
it's incredible how strong Carew actually is. He just tosses defenders out of his path. He looks in fine form, so we can only hope he can stay in shape. We can't expect him to play all season which is why a new forward is a must in this window.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 11:07:04 PM
No shoot-out, just the ridiculously over-the-top presentation.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 11:08:10 PM
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:08:18 PM
Well look on the bright side, it could have been worse. We kept them out for the last 35 minutes.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
No shoot-out, just the ridiculously over-the-top presentation.
Which has been turned off!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2010, 11:09:49 PM
Onto the next game then folks...it's only Valencia!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 01, 2010, 11:10:43 PM
Sod the guardiana, ive always considerd it the leyland daf of pre season tournaments compared with the peace cup.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:10:53 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
He is. I think he's only 22 as well. He's already been called up for the Brazilian squad and you can just see him having a great career wherever he ends up.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 11:10:56 PM
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 11:11:50 PM
Presumably we'll play our first eleven against Valencia?
Really want us to stop playing our version of 4-4-2, even if it takes some adjusting and half a season to get it right.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
Has Curtis Davies just won an award?!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Onto the next game then folks...it's only Valencia!
minus Silva and Villa. They're not what they once were.
Let's not get too carried away by this everyone. We have things to work on. We battered Inter Milan a couple of seasons ago at Villa Park, which was no more important or meaningful than tonight. Man U lost to Kansas City recently, and Spurs to Villareal. It doesn't mean anything other than there are things to work on for all teams in pre-season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on August 01, 2010, 11:13:34 PM
Well Curtis Davies has just been presented with a big triangle, so it wasn't completely fruitless.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
He is. I think he's only 22 as well. He's already been called up for the Brazilian squad and you can just see him having a great career wherever he ends up.
Looks like Man City doesn't it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on August 01, 2010, 11:13:49 PM
So then with the pre season so far and the personel we have, what would be your starting line up on the 14th.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Bingo. That's the word, joyless.
Forget some of the fanciful names being discussed in the transfer thread, and forget the talk of new tactics or a different way of playing, anyone who doesn't think we're going to sign - at best - a few more players of the quality we already have, and spend the season playing the same austere, limited, football with zero movement or possession, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
He is. I think he's only 22 as well. He's already been called up for the Brazilian squad and you can just see him having a great career wherever he ends up.
Brazil just keep pumping them out don't they. He works hard and has a sublime touch and passing range. Very impressed.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Has Curtis Davies just won an award?!
No they have just given him a ticket to Russia where he will be paragliding from a beach whilst braying loudly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 01, 2010, 11:15:41 PM
I know it's a pre season friendly but I'm depressed after watching that.
Great.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: "phantom limb"
Well Curtis Davies has just been presented with a big triangle, so it wasn't completely fruitless.
It's the bridge in Vila Real St. Antonio.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on August 01, 2010, 11:16:43 PM
Citalopram and whisky will help.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2010, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
He is. I think he's only 22 as well. He's already been called up for the Brazilian squad and you can just see him having a great career wherever he ends up.
Looks like Man City doesn't it?
Chelsea only ones to put in a bid so far I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on August 01, 2010, 11:18:55 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "phantom limb"
Well Curtis Davies has just been presented with a big triangle, so it wasn't completely fruitless.
It's the bridge in Vila Real St. Antonio.
...which is called the Guadiana International Bridge as it crosses from Portugal to Spain, hence the name of the tournament.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Monty"
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Bingo. That's the word, joyless.
Forget some of the fanciful names being discussed in the transfer thread, and forget the talk of new tactics or a different way of playing, anyone who doesn't think we're going to sign - at best - a few more players of the quality we already have, and spend the season playing the same austere, limited, football with zero movement or possession, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Dear god man don't say that! If you don't have hope then what do you have?
I expect we'll have the same old same old next season but I hope we don't. More posts like that and I'll need to separate myself from sharp implements.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
So then with the pre season so far and the personel we have, what would be your starting line up on the 14th.
I wouldn't have Downing in the side. He's a passenger.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 11:20:02 PM
To be fair to the lanky, startled rabbit-featured one, having seen the replay of their fourth, i think Curtis slipped.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:22:16 PM
i take on board that this is pre-season and fitness levels are way off. its just that we play the same way all the time, we dont pass dont move off the ball, there is very little skill, we dont try and retain posession it is a style of football that is tedious to watch and will not take us anywhere in terms of entertainment or success, we have too many one dimensional players, the whole set up is wrong, it is sad that a lot of people cant see that
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: "BedsVillain"
So then with the pre season so far and the personel we have, what would be your starting line up on the 14th.
Friedel Luke - Cuellar - Dunne - Warnock Albrighton - Petrov - Milner - Downing Young Gabby
Cuellar in for Luke and Carew in for Milner if they're not here.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Monty"
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Bingo. That's the word, joyless.
Forget some of the fanciful names being discussed in the transfer thread, and forget the talk of new tactics or a different way of playing, anyone who doesn't think we're going to sign - at best - a few more players of the quality we already have, and spend the season playing the same austere, limited, football with zero movement or possession, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
exactly
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on August 01, 2010, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Monty"
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Bingo. That's the word, joyless.
Forget some of the fanciful names being discussed in the transfer thread, and forget the talk of new tactics or a different way of playing, anyone who doesn't think we're going to sign - at best - a few more players of the quality we already have, and spend the season playing the same austere, limited, football with zero movement or possession, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
exactly
I'd agree with this too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:27:22 PM
Quote from: "JJ-AV"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Monty"
Pre-season, not our full team, great opposition, whatever. That was stereotypically poor. Many of us who complain about the way we're covered in the press will find it hard to complain about anything they say about us with that sort of stylistic and technical inadequacy on display. The whole thing's just so joyless.
Bingo. That's the word, joyless.
Forget some of the fanciful names being discussed in the transfer thread, and forget the talk of new tactics or a different way of playing, anyone who doesn't think we're going to sign - at best - a few more players of the quality we already have, and spend the season playing the same austere, limited, football with zero movement or possession, is living in cloud cuckoo land.
exactly
I'd agree with this too.
and then we get the starting line ups posts that looks like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2010, 11:28:10 PM
Quote
I take it you're presuming Milner's gone?
I'd have -
Friedel Luke - Cuellar - Dunne - Warnock Albrighton - Petrov - Milner - Downing Young Gabby
Cuellar in for Luke and Carew in for Milner if they're not here.
That would be my team aswell.
Time for Albrighton to sink or swim at prem level, he's played well yet again in pre season so deserves to start the first game.
Downing in his natural position on the left aswell with Young in a free role, like that. If Young is struggling to get into the game, move him back into the left and play Downing as one of the central midfield three and see how he does as he played there plenty for Boro.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:29:09 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Quote
I take it you're presuming Milner's gone?
I'd have -
Friedel Luke - Cuellar - Dunne - Warnock Albrighton - Petrov - Milner - Downing Young Gabby
Cuellar in for Luke and Carew in for Milner if they're not here.
and it will make sod all difference
That would be my team aswell.
Time for Albrighton to sink or swim at prem level, he's played well yet again in pre season so deserves to start the first game.
Downing in his natural position on the left aswell with Young in a free role, like that. If Young is struggling to get into the game, move him back into the left and play Downing as one of the central midfield three and see how he does as he played there plenty for Boro.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
David Luiz was brilliant tonight.
He is. I think he's only 22 as well. He's already been called up for the Brazilian squad and you can just see him having a great career wherever he ends up.
Brazil just keep pumping them out don't they. He works hard and has a sublime touch and passing range. Very impressed.
The other player I thought was outstanding tonight was Coentrão. The kid gets better every time I see him play.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2010, 11:31:10 PM
Maybe but let's try something different to the inflexible 4-4-2 pass to wings, wings, wings etc otherwise I'm going to be very sick of the manager in eight months time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:33:21 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Maybe but let's try something different to the inflexible 4-4-2 pass to wings, wings, wings etc otherwise I'm going to be very sick of the manager in eight months time.
its deeper than that, its about attitude, tactics, skill, movement and coaching
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 01, 2010, 11:33:54 PM
Yep.
That's it. I've lost all hope. I'm off for a walk towards the coast. Depending on how the fancy takes me I'll either go off a cliff or do a Reggie.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2010, 11:34:33 PM
Well if we don't see an improvement in those aspects he certainly won't be manager his time next year I'd say.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Well if we don't see an improvement in those aspects he certainly won't be manager his time next year I'd say.
i hoped that we would have got Hodgeson or somebody that has a blueprint of how to play in the modern era and believes in working with players on the training ground
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Maybe but let's try something different to the inflexible 4-4-2 pass to wings, wings, wings etc otherwise I'm going to be very sick of the manager in eight months time.
its deeper than that, its about attitude, tactics, skill, movement and coaching
The reliance on balls in from the wing is one thing, but that can be changed relatively simply. A run of injuries, for example, could force a rethink there.
What worries me more is that we're so deeply unconvincing in possession of the ball, we show absolutely no movement off the ball, we don't seem to appreciate the existence of the concept of creating space, let alone practice it, and we manage to do the basics so badly, in the hope that our one real physical asset - pace - will get us off the hook. We're a top six side with a pass completion and shots on goal rate aroudn the same as Bolton and Stoke City, and those stats are that poor for a reason.
With weaknesses like that, the problem is either that the players aren't good enough to play a more composed game, or that the manger and coaching staff either don't think they need to coach these things into the players, or just can't do it.
Either way, it isn't really good enough.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 01, 2010, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: "BC54 VFC"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "phantom limb"
Well Curtis Davies has just been presented with a big triangle, so it wasn't completely fruitless.
It's the bridge in Vila Real St. Antonio.
...which is called the Guadiana International Bridge as it crosses from Portugal to Spain, hence the name of the tournament.
Ah, you mean the Ponte Internacional do Guadiana? (winky) The Guadiana is the name of the river.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on August 01, 2010, 11:43:04 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "SoccerHQ"
Maybe but let's try something different to the inflexible 4-4-2 pass to wings, wings, wings etc otherwise I'm going to be very sick of the manager in eight months time.
its deeper than that, its about attitude, tactics, skill, movement and coaching
The reliance on balls in from the wing is one thing, but that can be changed relatively simply. A run of injuries, for example, could force a rethink there.
What worries me more is that we're so deeply unconvincing in possession of the ball, we show absolutely no movement off the ball, we don't seem to appreciate the existence of the concept of creating space, let alone practice it, and we manage to do the basics so badly, in the hope that our one real physical asset - pace - will get us off the hook. We're a top six side with a pass completion and shots on goal rate aroudn the same as Bolton and Stoke City, and those stats are that poor for a reason.
With weaknesses like that, the problem is either that the players aren't good enough to play a more composed game, or that the manger and coaching staff either don't think they need to coach these things into the players, or just can't do it.
Either way, it isn't really good enough.
i agree, we have all sorts of discussions about team selection and formation but if the basics as you mention are not fundemental to how the team plays it dosent matter what line up or formation we use, we still end up with this "joyless" and limiting football
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 11:45:21 PM
This is the time to change it. I'd like to think he wanted Ireland before all the talk of Milner leaving, I'd really like to. However, this really is it, after this summer there is no excuse for 4-4-2, wing- and crossing-based football from the '70s. If he doesn't change it, frustrations will be justified.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2010, 11:52:09 PM
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 01, 2010, 11:53:34 PM
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
I think it's more the lack of any change. I'm not quite succumbing to the Misery, but if nothing changes by September I might start following with less chance of being let down. Like ballet. Or snooker.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 01, 2010, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
It's not about the preseason, though, is it?
It's not as if we've suddenly started endlessly twatting it out to the wings and hitting hopeful balls into the box while we've been in Portugal.
I don't really care that we lost tonight or against Bohemians, that's by the by, it is pre-season. But we're seeing the same tactics we've seen for a long time now, and it doesn't augur well for the new season.
Unless something amazing happens in the next two weeks, but short of lightning strikes and huge quantities of mind bending drugs, I can't see Martin changing his style between now and then.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2010, 11:55:19 PM
He's messed about with a 4-4-1-1 earlier in the summer, so maybe he is looking at different ways and means.
Gabby out tonight removes a vital part of our play. Even if he doesn't always look effective the opposition are wary of his pace.
I'm holding fire until early Oct. Then we'll get a clear picture of where we're heading - for good or for ill.
Our results and performances so far this summer have been a mixed bag. I'm OK with that. If we were getting turned over continuously I'd be a wee bit concerned. If we look like world beaters that's generally a prelude to a bad campaign.
A good few of those players tonight probably won't even be anywhere near the first XI in a few weeks. They'll either be on the bench or plying their trade elsewhere.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2010, 12:00:51 AM
Hawkeye and the web No joy for him; joyless man Weep with him- or not.
This is what the internets is about. Tits and haikus. Oo-rah.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 02, 2010, 12:07:59 AM
One thing that MON has in his favour - he is so right to sell Luke Young. You really notice how poor his positioning is.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villafanalways on August 02, 2010, 12:31:07 AM
Hi all,im a long term reader of this fantastic site,a long term passionate fan and just wanted to join this site to add to all the 'interesting' discussions that go on here pretty frequently! Well i followed the game tonight and as disappointed as i am with the result and performance i would like to put everything into perspective.We lost to a better team,who also have player's that are technicially of a higher standard than the player's we have,so all in all it should not be all doom and gloom going forward for us Villa fans.We will not be facing sides in the premier league of the calibre of benfica every week so i feel that we should not over analyse the loss on that front,but one thing for me that's worth looking at,and i have noticed other posters saying similarily,is the passing and movement. Tonight and also with teams that like to pass it,i noticed that player's make small angle's to collect the pass,what i noticed tonight and previously with us,was that instead of coming short and looking for a pass player's wanted a long punt instead,that's simply not good enough against teams of Benfica's standard or better,i do believe that the player's are trying to evolve the way we play,but too often it's always the safe and long punt forward,which we have to change. I believe that Mon is trying to adapt a different playing sytle,so i guess it's going to be a slow process trying to change the current player's mentalities to what he has drilled in to them over the last few years,im willing to see how Martin approaches this season before i make judgement on him,but im encouraged to see in pre-season at least that he is persisting with a lone striker and player's following in behind and a passing style also,i still have question marks over his use of substutions and his stubborness,but im looking forward to the season to see if there is a different mentality and approach coming from the manager and players.VFA UTV!!!!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 02, 2010, 12:33:57 AM
Welcome to the site, and by and large well said. Our players don't move towards the man in possession, they run away, downfield. It's all very territorial, and a bit 1970s.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2010, 12:35:22 AM
I’d also say excessive heat and two games in 24 hours as another factor to consider.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 02, 2010, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
I’d also say excessive heat and two games in 24 hours as another factor to consider.
Heat is never a good excuse, because it shows up an over-reliance on running and a lack of technique to fall back on. However I take your point about the two games in 24 hours.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villafanalways on August 02, 2010, 12:41:48 AM
Hi monty,i feel that the players that we currently have are too afraid to express themselves and take some responsibility,and instead of seeking a pass and making a short move forward they are happier to hit it long instead of keeping the ball,and as you rightly say,the approach we have at present is about 20 years out of date.I have noticed some signs in pre-season that somethings are changing,but i guess that at present we unfortunately don't have the players to help us evolve into a different playing style,so i guess for now at least,unless we get in a few players that like to keep possession and pass it around,things may not improve to the extent that us Villa fans would like unfortunately.VFA UTV!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2010, 12:42:08 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "Ads"
I’d also say excessive heat and two games in 24 hours as another factor to consider.
Heat is never a good excuse, because it shows up an over-reliance on running and a lack of technique to fall back on. However I take your point about the two games in 24 hours.
Testacies . I’m a fit bloke, but when I'd walk up three flights of stairs to my hotel room on holiday at night, I was damp with sweat. Compare that to the Thai’s who were running around in suits like it was the middle of October. That was just walking and I had bum stew like a fat person. If you're a Portugeezer and conditioned to the heat then it will have less effect on you.
And the very best players work the hardest. So there's another nad for the set.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 02, 2010, 12:44:16 AM
The fear thing may be a factor. Someone mentioned earlier about Downing's one-footedness, and I think that might have something to do with fear. He definitely has a right foot he can use, but maybe he's a bit fearful of doing so.
Ads, you may be fit, but are you the level of fitness of a Premier League footballer? If you are I apologise. But I do think it's all too easy to blame the heat.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 02, 2010, 12:48:17 AM
Quote from: "Villafanalways"
I have noticed some signs in pre-season that somethings are changing,but i guess that at present we unfortunately don't have the players to help us evolve into a different playing style,so i guess for now at least,unless we get in a few players that like to keep possession and pass it around,things may not improve to the extent that us Villa fans would like unfortunately.VFA UTV!
There's an obvious flaw in your thinking there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Villafanalways on August 02, 2010, 12:49:30 AM
The one approach i would like for the upcoming season and Martin has shown it in pre-season at least,is a more flexible attitude towards our formation,so instead of consistently going for 4-4-2,he has experimented with a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-5-1,i hope he continues with this into the season,by doing this at least he may have opposition manager's having to figure out how we might approach them,instead of knowing what formation we will play week in week out,so that's the short-term hope anywho!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2010, 12:49:58 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Ads, you may be fit, but are you the level of fitness of a Premier League footballer? If you are I apologise. But I do think it's all too easy to blame the heat.
I’m the fitness of a rugby player- so fitter. ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on August 02, 2010, 01:30:58 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
Aye. pre-season games mean nowt. Good result or bad.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 02, 2010, 08:41:10 AM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
It's not about the preseason, though, is it?
It's not as if we've suddenly started endlessly twatting it out to the wings and hitting hopeful balls into the box while we've been in Portugal.
I don't really care that we lost tonight or against Bohemians, that's by the by, it is pre-season. But we're seeing the same tactics we've seen for a long time now, and it doesn't augur well for the new season.
Unless something amazing happens in the next two weeks, but short of lightning strikes and huge quantities of mind bending drugs, I can't see Martin changing his style between now and then.
As ever, I agree with you Paulie. Sure, pre-season games mean pretty much bugger all, but it is the bigger picture which is so dispiriting. I see absolutely no change in tactics or personnel for the new season. Things are not going to change one iota. If we're going to end up trundling along in 6th place playing Sheffield Unitedesque football, then I am going to be on the 'MON out' bandwagon by about the end of October...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 02, 2010, 08:51:22 AM
'We played against a side who always keep the ball, they played some little one-twos, and your chasing the game for long periods of the match'.
Crikey, MON did notice.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 02, 2010, 09:32:02 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
Quote from: "Monty"
Ads, you may be fit, but are you the level of fitness of a Premier League footballer? If you are I apologise. But I do think it's all too easy to blame the heat.
I’m the fitness of a rugby player- so fitter. ;)
Shitting in pint glasses and drinking other players' piss keeps you fit?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on August 02, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
Aye. pre-season games mean nowt. Good result or bad.
So my 'Peace Cup winners 2009' tattoo was a waste of time?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 02, 2010, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "Ads"
Quote from: "Monty"
Ads, you may be fit, but are you the level of fitness of a Premier League footballer? If you are I apologise. But I do think it's all too easy to blame the heat.
I’m the fitness of a rugby player- so fitter. ;)
Shitting in pint glasses and drinking other players' piss keeps you fit?
When eaten with your five a day- yes it does. Try it for a week- you'll notice the difference.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on August 03, 2010, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: "Des Little"
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "Ads"
There is an amusing level of weeping going on over the pre-season. It serves us all right for being on the internets though so often and being so engrossed in it.
Aye. pre-season games mean nowt. Good result or bad.
So my 'Peace Cup winners 2009' tattoo was a waste of time?
heh. yep. pre-season kick around. NRC was one of our better players in that tournament and he was frozen out most of the season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on August 03, 2010, 11:05:21 AM
as I cannot make the game on Friday due to work I have noticed that they are showing the Valencia match live on ITV 4 . (sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere)
UTV The Doc
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mellin on August 03, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Just got back from Portugal. We really were very bad against Benfica, who looked a far superior side to us against both ourselves and Feynoord (who were shite). Not to keen on the Benfica fans, but the Feynoord lot were a good laugh and have a nice photo with my mates and some Dutch nutter with scene of 82 tattooed on his back.
Portugese women. Oo la la.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 03, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
From Pravda (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/FootballNewsDetail/0,,10265~2109541,00.html):
Quote
A Villa XI are in action against Boldmere St Michaels at the Trevor Brown Memorial Ground tonight [ko 7.15pm].
Reserve team manager Kevin MacDonald takes charge of a young claret and blues side to take on the Midland Football Alliance outfit.
Boldmere, based in Sutton Coldfield, have been in the Midland Football Alliance since its formation in 1994 and are managed by Rob Mallaband.
The champions of 1986, 1989 and 1990 finished sixth last term.
The club won the Walsall Senior Cup in 2006 and retained it the following season.
Admission for tonight's game is £5 for adults and £3 for concessions.
How can you win a league three times before it starts?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 03, 2010, 07:55:48 PM
Benfica are playing spurs now on espn,
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: peter w on August 03, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
'We played against a side who always keep the ball, they played some little one-twos, and your chasing the game for long periods of the match'.
Crikey, MON did notice.
He went on...
"so when we do get the ball we need to knock it wide as quickly as possible and get the ball into the forwards to score a goal. Maybe even get a free-kick or corner. That would be terrific"
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on August 03, 2010, 10:17:10 PM
I really am convinced that is the way he thinks.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on August 03, 2010, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: "gibbo"
Benfica are playing spurs now on espn,
They beat Benfica 1-0. That's all I will say.....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 04, 2010, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: "boboonthecorner"
Quote from: "gibbo"
Benfica are playing spurs now on espn,
They beat Benfica 1-0. That's all I will say.....
But didn't play two nights in a row I suspect. Or play a team that has had 3 games in less than a week...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 04, 2010, 09:50:48 AM
But did get thumped at home by Valencia
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 04, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: "Hookeysmith"
But did get thumped at home by Valencia
Villareal?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 04, 2010, 08:44:54 PM
Citeh 3-1 down at Dortmund. 4 defeats in 5. Ha.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 05, 2010, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: "The Man With A Stick"
Citeh 3-1 down at Dortmund. 4 defeats in 5. Ha.
I know it means nothing, but it did make me quite happy.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 05, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
Does anyone know if any of the regular school/factory carparks will be open on Friday ?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2010, 11:30:54 AM
Cuellar out tomorrow... Luke Young to start then?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 05, 2010, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: "JUAN PABLO"
Cuellar out tomorrow... Luke Young to start then?
More likely to be NRC or Knee-High
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 05, 2010, 01:09:36 PM
Probably Beye cause looks like Young will be gone in the next couple of days .......
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on August 05, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Does anyone know if any of the regular school/factory carparks will be open on Friday ?
King Edwards Grammar School Car Park is open. Park there and help my son's education ;-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 05, 2010, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "The Man With A Stick"
Citeh 3-1 down at Dortmund. 4 defeats in 5. Ha.
I know it means nothing, but it did make me quite happy.
Think us and 90% of the football fraternity want Man city to go tits up. Would love Villa somehow to finish above them ......................
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: MYSTERYMAN on August 05, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Does anyone know if any of the regular school/factory carparks will be open on Friday ?
Site in Holborn Hill will be open
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 06:44:19 PM
Any team news?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 06:52:20 PM
SSN Milner not playing tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
No Gabby at all, presumably injured? Doesn't look like he''ll get off to his normal flying start this year but Carew seems in good nick.
Is Davies injured too?
Shitness knack. Been suffering from it a long time by all accounts.
Is that a good Valencia side?
Oh Ugo as a pundit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: bob on August 06, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Was he hinting that a deal had been done for Milner there?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2010, 07:37:07 PM
Didn't recognise Ugo with all that hair! He did seem to be hinting that the way had been 'smoothed' for Milner to move on - and given that Milner isn't even on the bench again I wouldn't be surprised if something happened over the next few days.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
MON more or less confimred Milner on his way.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 07:41:05 PM
'Something may happen on that in a couple of days'
Maybe the Mail journalist was onto something?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Nev on August 06, 2010, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Didn't recognise Ugo with all that hair! He did seem to be hinting that the way had been 'smoothed' for Milner to move on - and given that Milner isn't even on the bench again I wouldn't be surprised if something happened over the next few days.
MON has just said the same (about Milner, not Ugo's hair).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 07:48:43 PM
A good performance today will lift my spirits a bit. Then get Jimmy out asap, Ireland as part of the deal. Use the remainder of the proceeds to get another central midfielder (not sure who) and right back (eg Manolev). I'm less convinced we need a fwd if we get Ireland.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 07:50:08 PM
Ok im going for a 2-1 victory here: Carew and Downing
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 06, 2010, 07:51:14 PM
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Alrighton started brightly.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
would it surprise you?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 07:54:01 PM
I would lay decent money that MON was talking about Milner with Capello there.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
would it surprise you?
I was wondering whether, unlikely though it sounds, it was a witty self-deprecating joke, given the empty seats.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 06, 2010, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
would it surprise you?
Considering we sung out while being outsung by about 4000 Brighton fans last season...no it wouldn't.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 07:56:20 PM
Good to see Luke Young restored at ...ermm Leftback!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
would it surprise you?
I was wondering whether, unlikely though it sounds, it was a witty self-deprecating joke, given the empty seats.
No disrespect, the guys singing it, probably don't get irony!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
Not bad so far, Albrighton looks a class act once again. Can he transfer this into The Premiership? I reckon yes.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
Agree on Albrighton, he's looking the part.
Always wants to be involved, as well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: "aftab235"
Good to see Luke Young restored at ...ermm Leftback!
to be fair he's always played his best football for us at left back.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2010, 08:02:50 PM
Carew and Albrighton looking good. Downing has still only got one foot
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Not bad so far, Albrighton looks a class act once again. Can he transfer this into The Premiership? I reckon yes.
Me too, think he is the pick of our 'youth' much more a star in the making than Delf, who in my opinion will be another Luke Moore (hope im wrong) Allbrighton will be a star in a few years, his crossing is the best in the club
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
Ciaran Clark looks assured
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 08:03:45 PM
ITV timely replays??he said he would like to see that again Mr Producer
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Are we really singing "shit support ma'lord" in a friendly against a team from hundreds of miles away?
would it surprise you?
I was wondering whether, unlikely though it sounds, it was a witty self-deprecating joke, given the empty seats.
Do you think our fans are that bright as to attempt irony?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
Albrighton - Willing to run past the full-back, but just as happy to whip it in early if the situation permits. He's got the proverbial "footballing brain" I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:05:30 PM
I was quite sceptical about people's eulogising over Albrighton's crossing, but I've been really impressed so far.Better than Downing . . .
Plus I quite like Young in behind Carew thus far too. Would Keane be better in that position or not?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:05:34 PM
Is Downing's shirt baggy or is he a bit heavy?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Not bad so far, Albrighton looks a class act once again. Can he transfer this into The Premiership? I reckon yes.
He is so full of confidence. By comparison, you have to wonder where all of Downing's went to. He wasn't like this playing for Boro.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 08:06:30 PM
How do, folks.
Hope everyone has come through the close season unscathed?
OK, come on you Villa boys. Cheer me up... ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
I was quite sceptical about people's eulogising over Albrighton's crossing, but I've been really impressed so far.Better than Downing . . .
Plus I quite like Young in behind Carew thus far too. Would Keane be better in that position or not?
Allbrighton is David Bentley without the baggage and perceived bad attitude. He WILL make it, has pace, skill, ability and the mentality
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
Evening Roger, another scintillating season of match threads awaits!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: "RogerS"
How do, folks.
Hope everyone has come through the close season unscathed?
OK, come on you Villa boys. Cheer me up... ;)
How's it going Rog? Hope everything's good on the West Coast
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
That was good by Downing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
Albrighton looks good.
Their left back however looks awful. His positioning is utterly abysmal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 08:08:45 PM
Better Downing, nice run, just needed the finish.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
Some how I didn'y expect Downing put that away.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Evening Roger, another scintillating season of match threads awaits!
You want to avoid them, but they can be like car accidents. You shouldn't look but you just can't help yourself. It just sucks you in.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Albrighton looks good.
Their left back however looks awful. His positioning is utterly abysmal.
Oh, so that's where Shorey ended up.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on August 06, 2010, 08:10:51 PM
Watching Albrighton gives me great hope.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
I'm not sure I've ever followed a match thread and felt better by the end than I did at the start, even when we've won by 3 goals or more.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2010, 08:11:47 PM
I know it doesn't seem too likely at this stage, but I do hope we keep hold of NRC. He really could be such a valuable player for us as a defensive midfielder in a central three.
Good stuff from Albrighton and Clark so far, impressive.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:12:04 PM
Beye is having a good game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: "Matt C"
Watching Albrighton gives me great hope.
Give it 18 months and he'll be off to Man City for 15 million ;-)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Evening Roger, another scintillating season of match threads awaits!
How do, Dave. Yep...can't wait! (honest!!)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: glasses on August 06, 2010, 08:13:06 PM
Evening all. Were my ears deceiving me there, or were our fans singing a song about a murderer in a pre season friendly?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 08:13:34 PM
"There was talk of them losing Ashley Young, too, with Tottenham interested"
How fucking annoying is that?
Tottenham don't have mind melting sums of money to offer either us, or the player, you bozo.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:13:59 PM
Stan is sweating buckets
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2010, 08:14:10 PM
I wonder how close this will be to the side to face Spam?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:14:21 PM
I think we should keep NRC for a year at least - we won't get much for him in the last yr of his contract and we need cover until Delph returns at least. I see Delph as potentially offering all that NRC offers, but with much better technique. Not sure when he'll be 'ready' though
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
I know it doesn't seem too likely at this stage, but I do hope we keep hold of NRC. He really could be such a valuable player for us as a defensive midfielder in a central three.
Good stuff from Albrighton and Clark so far, impressive.
I agree, NRC is a great defensive midfielder, shit with his distribution, but one of the best at breaking up play (our makelele)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "Matt C"
Watching Albrighton gives me great hope.
Give it 18 months and he'll be off to Man City for 15 million ;-)
He's already a much better crosser than Milner, and if he fills out a bit he could really pose a goal threat coming inside. If Milner is 27 mil, then Albrighton will be worth at least 35 mil - no?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "RogerS"
How do, folks.
Hope everyone has come through the close season unscathed?
OK, come on you Villa boys. Cheer me up... ;)
How's it going Rog? Hope everything's good on the West Coast
How do, TV.
Yep, hanging in there. Summer didn't really arrive yet (more like early Spring really) but at least it's dry. Hope life's being good to you?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
I think we should keep NRC for a year at least - we won't get much for him in the last yr of his contract and we need cover until Delph returns at least. I see Delph as potentially offering all that NRC offers, but with much better technique. Not sure when he'll be 'ready' though
I think NRC is a very limited footballer, but I do think you are right there.
Sometimes you need to bring on (or start with) a niggling, awkward fecker in the middle.
NRC gives us that option (as, I suspect, could Delph when fit).
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "Matt C"
Watching Albrighton gives me great hope.
Give it 18 months and he'll be off to Man City for 15 million ;-)
He's already a much better crosser than Milner, and if he fills out a bit he could really pose a goal threat coming inside. If Milner is 27 mil, then Albrighton will be worth at least 35 mil - no?
I hope so, then again, I hope he is THAT good, we never sell and he doesn't want to leave. He is definately going to make it though. Hope MON starts him against West Ham
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:19:22 PM
I think Martin is trying to change our style into more of a passing game. The problem is, when we're at home, we tend to pass it too slowly. I think this is partly about coaching and partly because of the lack of inventive types in central areas. An Ireland type signing, and / or Young playing more centrally, could be a really significant move. I am a bit concerned that webcam needs to be less lightweight to play that role though.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 06, 2010, 08:21:47 PM
Downing looking sharp.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2010, 08:21:54 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
I think we should keep NRC for a year at least - we won't get much for him in the last yr of his contract and we need cover until Delph returns at least. I see Delph as potentially offering all that NRC offers, but with much better technique. Not sure when he'll be 'ready' though
I think NRC is a very limited footballer, but I do think you are right there.
Sometimes you need to bring on (or start with) a niggling, awkward fecker in the middle.
NRC gives us that option (as, I suspect, could Delph when fit).
Yep, that's exactly what I mean; he's not the best passer (although not as bad as some make out, I think) but in that 'ball-winning' role, he doesn't really have to be. I think that you're right about Delph, too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: glasses on August 06, 2010, 08:22:09 PM
I really do like that little shift and quick cross that Albrighton does. I hope he continues to improve.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:22:48 PM
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
he's a better LB than RB
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on August 06, 2010, 08:25:28 PM
Still missing that cutting edge.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2010, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
he's a better LB than RB
I think Beye is at least as good as Luke Young.
There, I said it.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
he's a better LB than RB
I think Beye is at least as good as Luke Young.
There, I said it.
You're wrong, doesn't have Young's application
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
Dunne is struggling
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: greenwichvilla on August 06, 2010, 08:26:59 PM
I want to see the Bucking Bronco.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2010, 08:27:19 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
he's a better LB than RB
I think Beye is at least as good as Luke Young.
There, I said it.
You're wrong
Am I? Silly me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
I wonder if we could try switching Downing and Young for a bit? Play more of a 4-3-3?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: glasses on August 06, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
Quote from: "greenwichvilla"
I want to see the Bucking Bronco.
He will probably come on for Carew at half time.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
Quote from: "greenwichvilla"
I want to see the Bucking Bronco.
Language, Timothy! ;)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 08:28:13 PM
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
We should be playing, nevermind keeping Luke Young, Good solid player
he's a better LB than RB
I think Beye is at least as good as Luke Young.
There, I said it.
You're wrong
Am I? Silly me.
Haha yeah, fact!!! I don't know really, not so in my opinion!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
Valencia are gaining control here.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 08:28:47 PM
New scoreboard in the Trinity/North corner.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 08:29:53 PM
A bucking bronco is hardly a Spanish theme is it? A game where you stick swords into a bull yes, but not a bucking bronco.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:32:57 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 06, 2010, 08:33:27 PM
Quote from: "greenwichvilla"
I want to see the Bucking Bronco.
You should have facebook. The AVFC Offical has pictures of it :)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: glasses on August 06, 2010, 08:34:22 PM
How much would Manuel Fernandes cost? Looks a pretty good playmaker type. It is only a friendly I suppose
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 06, 2010, 08:37:23 PM
Like Coleman's been saying, Beye's played encouragingly well so far. Maybe we could get a decent year out of him yet.
My main problem so far has been that Ash has not been behind Carew, but in fact the two have played alongside each other, which frankly suits nobody. Ash can't create anything, he's not aiding the midfield to keep the ball (frankly he should be part of the midfield) and defensively it's a problem because, by the team Valencia reach the halfway line they're goal side of Ash, meaning one of Petrov or NRC gets dragged out of position. It's like a stereotype of the problems of 4-4-2.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
The full backs and two wingers are looking good. As OCD said a few pages back we just lack that cutting edge. Our use of the ball has been a bit better too. Even Reo-Coker is completing a few passes. The wrong ones mind.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 06, 2010, 08:38:32 PM
Also I'd like to see the wingers on the opposite sides, when it's left footer on the left and vice versa for the right I feel we look a little stretched.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 08:38:58 PM
Same old, same old. We get so far up the pitch but don't really look like scoring. This may only be a friendly but you can see the same problems at home repeating themselves again this season...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on August 06, 2010, 08:46:52 PM
I think we are playing well. Better than our line up tonight would suggest I reckon.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 06, 2010, 08:47:15 PM
How can we let Luke Young go ? He has been excellent. and that is even on the left ..........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Oh good. Ivanhoe's coming on
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
Heskey has done well since he came on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: serbentoflight on August 06, 2010, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: "CJ"
Oh good. Ivanhoe's coming on
!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on August 06, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
Where's Davies? Have we got a deal lined up or he is another defender with a knock? I would have expected he would have come on for Dunne.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 08:58:32 PM
Anyone wish they'd gone?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 06, 2010, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: "OCD"
Where's Davies? Have we got a deal lined up or he is another defender with a knock? I would have expected he would have come on for Dunne.
Has a slight knock apparently. Best not to risk him given his injury record.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on August 06, 2010, 08:58:34 PM
Another nice pass by NRC.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Same old, same old. We get so far up the pitch but don't really look like scoring. This may only be a friendly but you can see the same problems at home repeating themselves again this season...
I fear you're right, but there have been some positives. Albrighton, Beye, NRC, and good to see Clark.
We desperately need something else up front, though, we look so blunt (even with Gabby). Oh, and something in the middle, given the exit of Milner.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 08:59:25 PM
Heskey has done well. He's well suited to the hold up play needed in our formation today. Unfortunately, it's asking a bit much if your one centre forward never scores!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on August 06, 2010, 09:00:35 PM
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Quote from: "OCD"
Where's Davies? Have we got a deal lined up or he is another defender with a knock? I would have expected he would have come on for Dunne.
Has a slight knock apparently. Best not to risk him given his injury record.
Ah right. I had my hopes up then that we could start clearing up some of the dead wood that could lead to us bringing people in. So that's all 4 senior central defenders carrying knocks. It's a good job the season doesn't start soon.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on August 06, 2010, 09:01:20 PM
Hello Doug.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
Someones pinched one of the big screens.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Hello Doug.
Nice tan.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:03:06 PM
awful cross downing.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 09:03:18 PM
Nice move, shit cross from Downing, but nice all the same.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 09:03:27 PM
Quote from: "ez"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Hello Doug.
Nice tan.
'Look at me tan!'
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
Heskey's doing well. He's showing us what he's capable of at his best. The problem is as we lack a player who has a cutting edge we don't need what Heskey is capable of.
OWwwwwwww Downing!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 06, 2010, 09:03:35 PM
Does Downing always have a brainfart, when there is "pressure" on him? like when through on goal or in the open to cross?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:04:31 PM
Reo-coker is doing well, and his passing looks more assured.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:04:58 PM
I don't think he's used to the crowds. Boro only ever used to get about 8 people.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Same old, same old. We get so far up the pitch but don't really look like scoring. This may only be a friendly but you can see the same problems at home repeating themselves again this season...
I fear you're right, but there have been some positives. Albrighton, Beye, NRC, and good to see Clark.
We desperately need something else up front, though, we look so blunt (even with Gabby). Oh, and something in the middle, given the exit of Milner.
One would hope that once the Milner saga has concluded that the funds will be invested in addressing all of those needs. I think we'll be fine defensvely whether or not we replace Luke Young or Shorey. We are quite poor in the final 3rd. 4 or 5 good new faces should spruce that up
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
Probably with the exception of Davies and Sidwell all of the six are useful enough players who are able to play more of a part than they did.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
the full backs seem to be pushing on far more than they ever did last season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
What the fuck has sidders got on his back.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:07:43 PM
The difference between Albrighton and Ash. Albrighton looked up and picked out a player with the cross. Ash did a lovely bit of skill to win space and did not even look at who and where anyone was.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:08:34 PM
The Delf-meister!
Let's hope he';s better than against benfica
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
Albrighton off for Delfouneso.
Fucks sake. I'd have taken someone else off.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 06, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
Ill be the first! Heskey!!! :(
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
fucking hell heskey
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Albrighton off for Delfouneso.
Fucks sake.
it's a friendly. chill bro
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
What the fuck has sidders got on his back.
his wedding vows
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:11:13 PM
Reo-Coker is having a really good game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:11:14 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Albrighton off for Delfouneso.
Fucks sake. I'd have taken someone else off.
Really? are you for real? it's a friendly and he has played in all of them and were a week away from the start of the league. Get a grip.....Jesus!!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2010, 09:12:02 PM
Good move by Fonz to the near post there - probably the first time we've done that all game
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:12:11 PM
Agreed on NRC. He has to start v west ham.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 06, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
Heskey has been suprisingly good. Well, better than normal.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Albrighton off for Delfouneso.
Fucks sake. I'd have taken someone else off.
Really? are you for real? it's a friendly and he has played in all of them and were a week away from the start of the league. Get a grip.....Jesus!!!
Yes I'm for real. I'd have preferred someone else to come off he didn't look tired. I'd have liked both to have played together to see how they do. I don't think he'll play against West Ham. He should but he won't.
I was using a bit of hyperbole in my second line I must also admit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
He wasn't offside then.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
great ball by Ash and Heskey given offside when he wasn't.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
heskey did well to begin with, but has had 3 awfulk touches. onside there though. but odds on him scoring . . i dont think so
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:15:50 PM
Well if he had we would have been able to see if Stevejos was in the crowd.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 06, 2010, 09:16:17 PM
Good game from healer so far
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Albrighton off for Delfouneso.
Fucks sake. I'd have taken someone else off.
Really? are you for real? it's a friendly and he has played in all of them and were a week away from the start of the league. Get a grip.....Jesus!!!
Yes I'm for real. I'd have preferred someone else to come off he didn't look tired. I'd have liked both to have played together to see how they do. I don't think he'll play against West Ham. He should but he won't.
I was using a bit of hyperbole in my second line I must also admit.
Don't forget he will be playing for the under 21's on Tuesday, think he has done enough and ernt his place.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 06, 2010, 09:16:49 PM
Guzan is very loud.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: "glasses"
How much would Manuel Fernandes cost? Looks a pretty good playmaker type. It is only a friendly I suppose
Agreed. Let's spend some of Milner's loot on him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc-mullins on August 06, 2010, 09:17:12 PM
I've got a feeling for fonzy'! I can see him scoring a good goal
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
3 up front or Fonz on the wing?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
Weimann looks like Christian Slater
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2010, 09:18:59 PM
How many subs is that now? 7?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:21:20 PM
Wheres Salifou?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: "ez"
Wheres Salifou?
I saw him sat on the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on August 06, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
Still sat on the bench...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:23:23 PM
that valencia left back is awful. lucky to get away with that against fonz
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Reo man of the match for me.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Reo man of the match for me.
Agreed
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:27:18 PM
MON's not in the stands or dugout second half, something afoot?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Salifou coming on!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Agreed. I don't see how its possible to play centre mid and do so little as Sidwell though.
Downing's crossing has been crap.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ian c. on August 06, 2010, 09:31:13 PM
Well played NRC. He passed well today.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
The difference between Albrighton and Ash. Albrighton looked up and picked out a player with the cross. Ash did a lovely bit of skill to win space and did not even look at who and where anyone was.
Experience, innit.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on August 06, 2010, 09:32:21 PM
Clark, Albrighton, Fonz & Weimann - we've got some very promising young players there.
NRC for MoM seconded.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on August 06, 2010, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Reo man of the match for me.
As I keep saying, one of our must under-rated players.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Probably with the exception of Davies and Sidwell all of the six are useful enough players who are able to play more of a part than they did.
Absolutely agree.
My beef with MON isn't that most of these players are rubbish (mind you, Sidders, Curtis, hmmm), but that they might as well not be here if we don't use them
Beye and NRC have done very well tonight, I think.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:33:42 PM
NRC will be like a new signing to us
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on August 06, 2010, 09:34:04 PM
So Lichaj is pronounced Lee-Hi then?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2010, 09:34:21 PM
Beye impressed me tonight.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: alan_clarke on August 06, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Is Fonz really gonna be all that. Im yet to be impressed and I'll be surprised if he makes it as an established prem striker.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
Don't mean to sound negative but I've not been impressed with Delf in the few times I've seen hm this summer. I had the impression he was a fair bit more aware and technically sound than he's seemed. Is that being harsh?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: alan_clarke on August 06, 2010, 09:35:35 PM
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Reo man of the match for me.
As I keep saying, one of our must under-rated players.
agreed!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
I'm probably being daft here, as I've only seen about 30 minutes of him in action, but Weimann seems to be a very decent player to me. Really good movement, and pretty strong too.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
Oooh, unlucky Downing, and Lowrys follow up as well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on August 06, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: "alan_clarke"
Quote from: "Irish villain"
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Reo man of the match for me.
As I keep saying, one of our must under-rated players.
agreed!
It's great to have him back, I hope he stays in MON's good books. There's only one word to describe him: immense.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Don't mean to sound negative but I've not been impressed with Delf in the few times I've seen hm this summer. I had the impression he was a fair bit more aware and technically sound than he's seemed. Is that being harsh?
Nope, think summed up nicely. Wont make it at the top level (hope im wrong)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:37:41 PM
Heskeys disappeared
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: alan_clarke on August 06, 2010, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Don't mean to sound negative but I've not been impressed with Delf in the few times I've seen hm this summer. I had the impression he was a fair bit more aware and technically sound than he's seemed. Is that being harsh?
Not being harsh. Sure we all want him to succeed and we prob have rose tinted glasses regarding our youngsters. I've seen too many like him come and go. It sounds like he has a better attitude to the game than the likes of Luke Moore, but im not sure if he has the talent!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:37:52 PM
that was embarassing ivanhoe
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 06, 2010, 09:37:58 PM
Oh my god he is crap...sorry...i can't bare to watch him in that shirt.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: alan_clarke on August 06, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: "Somniloquism"
Oooh, unlucky Downing, and Lowrys follow up as well.
Only decent thing Stuart Downing did all game from what I saw
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
Well goodnight all, see you Saturday....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 06, 2010, 09:43:37 PM
Downing was shit (again) marc albrighton all day ........ Gotta keep Luke Young he was awesome ..
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2010, 09:44:05 PM
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
I thought downing was decent, but his final ball was awful
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2010, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: "alan_clarke"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Don't mean to sound negative but I've not been impressed with Delf in the few times I've seen hm this summer. I had the impression he was a fair bit more aware and technically sound than he's seemed. Is that being harsh?
Not being harsh. Sure we all want him to succeed and we prob have rose tinted glasses regarding our youngsters. I've seen too many like him come and go. It sounds like he has a better attitude to the game than the likes of Luke Moore, but im not sure if he has the talent!
In the matches I have seen him in last season he is more a Linekar type striker then a Rooney type. He doesn't do much outside the box but he is intelligent in it as shown with his run to the near post for Reos ball in.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 06, 2010, 09:46:56 PM
Controversy Alert!
I think we'd have been raving about Delfonso if he had come on and played as solidly as Heskey did. I thought he linked play really well. Showed for the midfielders and generally held the ball up excellently.
Good to see NRC putting in a good shift. As said elsewhere the unwanted six are generally good players, but in order to be value for money they need to be used.
Hopefully MON will show more flexibility this season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: RogerS on August 06, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
MON's not in the stands or dugout second half, something afoot?
Maybe he signed for Man Citeh...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 06, 2010, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Funny how people see things differently... I thought he was very poor.
Can we offload him to Citeh as well?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 06, 2010, 09:48:27 PM
A draw at home then.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on August 06, 2010, 09:51:26 PM
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2010, 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
I'm sorry but you might not rate Heskey, but he is no way the worst player you can have seen in a villa shirt.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 06, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Please tell me you are joking ??? He looks slow and failed to cross on three occasions. Albrighton made him look like a fifty year old .....
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Oh dear. I don't understand football anymore I think. His final ball was consistently awful, never ever reaching its intended target. If that is the case, what is the point? He is a luxury we can no longer afford to play and needs to be dropped to the bench.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: "WALTERS WARRIORS"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Please tell me you are joking ??? He looks slow and failed to cross on three occasions. Albrighton made him look like a fifty year old .....
I too can only assume the above comments are ironic. He was the worst Villa player on the pitch. And would have been by some considerable margin until Heskey came on...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on August 06, 2010, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
I'm sorry but you might not rate Heskey, but he is no way the worst player you can have seen in a villa shirt.
no where near the worst .
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on August 06, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
I'm sorry but you might not rate Heskey, but he is no way the worst player you can have seen in a villa shirt.
Erm.....he is.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 10:01:31 PM
Worse than oyvind leonhardsen? No way
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on August 06, 2010, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
I'm sorry but you might not rate Heskey, but he is no way the worst player you can have seen in a villa shirt.
Erm.....he is.
Erm he isn't! I give you Ian ormondroyd!!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Quote from: "WALTERS WARRIORS"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Please tell me you are joking ??? He looks slow and failed to cross on three occasions. Albrighton made him look like a fifty year old .....
I'm not joking. I felt he dribbled well in particular in the first half and don't get how he was slow. His crossing wasn't too bad BUT I will say his free kicks were very poor. If this was Ashley Young we were talking about this discussion wouldn't be happening. If I sat watching how many times Ash made a poor cross or did the wrong thing with the ball I'd be the same. Conversely the superb cross he put in on one of the other friendlies wasn't mentioned whereas had it come from Young we would be raving.
I agree Albrighton looks a much brighter player however and were I picking the team for next week's match he'd be in it and Downing wouldn't but that is not to say that Downing did badly tonight he just hasn't been as good as Albrighton and to a lesser extent Young.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eastie on August 06, 2010, 10:03:38 PM
Luke , nige and albrighton were all good as was beye, we didn't really create many chances though and still need a creative midfielder and natural finisher- here's hoping this week!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 06, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: "TheEgoHasLanded"
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Quote from: "PaulWinch"
Quote from: "JamesMilnersNo8Shirt"
Stewart Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan
Emule Heskey - The worst player I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. - and i've seen Bernie Gallagher
Steve Sidwell - Came on, and I honestly don't remember him touching the ball. - a complete waste of space.
Highlight - Probably Reo-Coker's performance
I'm sorry but you might not rate Heskey, but he is no way the worst player you can have seen in a villa shirt.
Erm.....he is.
Erm he isn't! I give you Ian ormondroyd!!
I`ll trump you with a Neale Cooper.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Gary Penrice puts you all to bed guys....sorry, I am the winner!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 06, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: TheSandman
Quote from: "WALTERS WARRIORS"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Arsey"
I may need to put a tin hat on after this but I didn't think Downing played too badly. Looked quite good at times.
Agreed. Final ball a bit poor but he did well.
Please tell me you are joking ??? He looks slow and failed to cross on three occasions. Albrighton made him look like a fifty year old .....
I'm not joking. I felt he dribbled well in particular in the first half and don't get how he was slow. His crossing wasn't too bad BUT I will say his free kicks were very poor. If this was Ashley Young we were talking about this discussion wouldn't be happening. If I sat watching how many times Ash made a poor cross or did the wrong thing with the ball I'd be the same. Conversely the superb cross he put in on one of the other friendlies wasn't mentioned whereas had it come from Young we would be raving.
I agree Albrighton looks a much brighter player however and were I picking the team for next week's match he'd be in it and Downing wouldn't but that is not to say that Downing did badly tonight he just hasn't been as good as Albrighton and to a lesser extent Young.[/quot
I see your point concerning A Young but his general contribution is always well above Downings. But for 12m he is very disappointing and i really hope Albrighton is in that side next week ..........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on August 06, 2010, 10:09:54 PM
Well I'm in the "Downing was crap " camp. He really is a shocking waste of £12 million. On Setanta Ireland, Brian Little commented that he has only showed flashes of brilliance at Villa. I think thats being very kind to him. When the commentator came out with "Downing was muscled out of it there" I did have a little snigger to myself. No shit Sherlock !!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 06, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Gary Penrice puts you all to bed guys....sorry, I am the winner!
He did have a great Merseyside type of moustache though !!
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:13:28 PM
I'm not having a go at Downing for the sake of it but I thought apart from the free kick he was terrible.
Thought NRC, Beye, Young L, Albrighton, Clarke did very well but the concerning thing was we did not look like scoring and that was against a poor team!
Must do better
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:15:44 PM
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: "gervilla"
Well I'm in the "Downing was crap " camp. He really is a shocking waste of £12 million. On Setanta Ireland, Brian Little commented that he has only showed flashes of brilliance at Villa. I think thats being very kind to him. When the commentator came out with "Downing was muscled out of it there" I did have a little snigger to myself. No shit Sherlock !!
Yes, me too. He was, indeed, crap tonight. No ifs, buts or maybes for me. Just out and out crap. I will add, however, that he looks one good ball or goal away from rediscovering his touch. The problem is we have been saying that for about 6 months
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: "alan_clarke"
Is Fonz really gonna be all that. Im yet to be impressed and I'll be surprised if he makes it as an established prem striker.
To be fair the second half was utter boring crap, He couldn't get into the game and he got the ball once. You have to get some kind of service to do anything in a match
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 06, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: "gervilla"
Well I'm in the "Downing was crap " camp. He really is a shocking waste of £12 million. On Setanta Ireland, Brian Little commented that he has only showed flashes of brilliance at Villa. I think thats being very kind to him. When the commentator came out with "Downing was muscled out of it there" I did have a little snigger to myself. No shit Sherlock !!
Thank god someone is seeing the same player as me. He is weak on the ball and he is "slow" the amount of times he has faked to shoot on his left foot then totally cocked up on his right is embarassing. Give him to Arry ........
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: "villa `cross the mersey"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Gary Penrice puts you all to bed guys....sorry, I am the winner!
He did have a great Merseyside type of moustache though !!
Of porn star proportions with the mullet to boot. He looked every inch the archetypal 80s footballer...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
And with that tatoo on Sidwell's back? My god...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: avfc_1874 on August 06, 2010, 10:20:50 PM
I thought Weimann looked a decent player when he came on.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: carlos the third on August 06, 2010, 10:24:36 PM
Heskey was good tonight, he linked up play well and set up chances for others and we looked brighter when he came on. We always seem to play more attractive football with him in the team instead of Carew. Also good performances from Albrighton, NRC, Petrov, Luke Young and Beye.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
And with that tatoo on Sidwell's back? My god...
I think its his wedding vows, Fair play you seen his bird? He has to do something to keep her, I mean he's ginger and shit at football
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on August 06, 2010, 10:28:39 PM
Well, I'm fairly encouraged by what I saw tonight. I'm also confident that the kids can step up. Albrighton is going to be a star for us as I've said for ages now. clark looks the part and will only get better. Fonz will prove to be a top striker and the likes of Weimann, Lichaj, Lowry and Bannan will be around the squad. I'd also like to see NRC, Luke Young and Beye stay. In fact, its only really Sidwell, Shorey and Heskey I'd like to see move on.
We still have Delph, Gabby, Cuellar, Collins and Davies to come back into that group tonight and I'm sre we'll get some quality players in.
Milner is off then and the sooner we spend the money from that ugly twat on buying that bit of magic we clearly lack, the better.
Plenty to be cheerful about.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on August 06, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
And with that tatoo on Sidwell's back? My god...
I think its his wedding vows, Fair play you seen his bird? He has to do something to keep her, I mean he's ginger and shit at football
Maybe he thinks he's invisible without it? Though why he would think that I've no idea...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 06, 2010, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
And with that tatoo on Sidwell's back? My god...
I think its his wedding vows, Fair play you seen his bird? He has to do something to keep her, I mean he's ginger and shit at football
Yes, it's a real mystery what she sees in him.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Well, I'm fairly encouraged by what I saw tonight. I'm also confident that the kids can step up. Albrighton is going to be a star for us as I've said for ages now. clark looks the part and will only get better. Fonz will prove to be a top striker and the likes of Weimann, Lichaj, Lowry and Bannan will be around the squad. I'd also like to see NRC, Luke Young and Beye stay. In fact, its only really Sidwell, Shorey and Heskey I'd like to see move on. We still have Delph, Gabby, Cuellar, Collins and Davies to come back into that group tonight and I'm sre we'll get some quality players in.
Milner is off then and the sooner we spend the money from that ugly twat on buying that bit of magic we clearly lack, the better.
Plenty to be cheerful about.
Spot on there mate
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 06, 2010, 10:32:22 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
And with that tatoo on Sidwell's back? My god...
I think its his wedding vows, Fair play you seen his bird? He has to do something to keep her, I mean he's ginger and shit at football
Yes, it's a real mystery what she sees in him.
Maybe its his huge ....bank balance
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 06, 2010, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: "Phil from the upper holte"
Oh yeah, Sidwell & Heskey were utter fucking shite when came on, It comes to something when MON can critisize certain players but not have a bad word to say about Heskey?
What the fuck is going on there
Sorry - I missed the post-match interviews as my stream was pretty bobbins. Who did MON criticize and what did he say?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 06, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
1st half was dull. 2nd was pretty good. Impressed with Carew, Albrighton, Clarke and NRC.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on August 06, 2010, 11:03:18 PM
I know it was only a friendly but we just look so stale and limited, just totally predictable
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on August 06, 2010, 11:15:05 PM
The football was utterly predictable for much of it.
Although, I did feel that Gabby and Young together up front may have resulted in goals when useful creative touches from Young in the centre resulted in Carew being through but not having the pace to take it away.
Beye should play next week on his performance at right back, and if Warnock is not right Young should play left back, both were good and neither would l;et us down, indeed if Davies is off to Spurs in any deal for Keane, then Cuellar should be competing to be alongside Dunne, while the full back should be set with Beye, Young and Warnock covering the 2 roles.
Dunne looked a stone heavier than last year to me.
NRC looked great, as he did a lot of the time last season when played, must stay and be in the side if we are not going to be over run in the centre of the midfield.
Albrighton looks ready to play some games, and will hurt sides as he has no fear of running at people.
Downing meh -pretty man - no substance.
Clark still looks to be coming through well.
Lots to be positive about then, but that creative edge through the spine is missing, and Keane/ Ireland/ Bentley could well do us the power of good. More so than Milner in the side, who essentially is a much better version of the energetic NRC.
Final point. A week before the season starts, if we have to tape Ashley Young's knee up to get him through a fecking friendly don't bloody play him. He is far too important to piss about with, an a major frustration over the last 2-3 years with O'Neill is him playing players who are clearly carrying a knock, but doing it pre season is lunacy.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: OCD on August 06, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
I wonder if MON plans on playing Fonzy out on the right whenever he plays - like he did in Gabby's first season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 06, 2010, 11:17:23 PM
Great post, ozzjim.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
I'd also like to see NRC, Luke Young and Beye stay. In fact, its only really Sidwell, Shorey and Heskey I'd like to see move on..
I would agree with that, but with the caveat that if they're going to get frozen out / dumped in the reserves / ignored all season then we might as well sell them and get them off the wage bill.
Beye and NRC were excellent tonight, I thought. Good show.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 06, 2010, 11:30:49 PM
Having just got back from the game I would say that Reo-Coker just needs to get his head up more - a few times he dawdled on the ball and got caught. But the player that surprised me most tonight was Heskey. I'm no fan of his but when he came on he really tied the front line together with what creativity there was in midfield and before that we hadn't looked dangerous.
Positives: Albrighton looked brilliant yet again. Some of the fringe players look pretty sharp. Kids are getting a decent run.
Negatives: Ash was crap tonight. His pre-season form's gone right downhill imo. Lack of threat up front. Midfield is crying out for some new ideas. Hopefully at least two of those will be solved in the next few days.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 06, 2010, 11:32:43 PM
Quote from: "ozzjim"
Final point. A week before the season starts, if we have to tape Ashley Young's knee up to get him through a fecking friendly don't bloody play him. He is far too important to piss about with, an a major frustration over the last 2-3 years with O'Neill is him playing players who are clearly carrying a knock, but doing it pre season is lunacy.
The way Ash gets kicked about and/or falls over, it will be a miracle if that boy goes through his career without a major break or fracture.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: achilles on August 06, 2010, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: "ozzjim"
Final point. A week before the season starts, if we have to tape Ashley Young's knee up to get him through a fecking friendly don't bloody play him. He is far too important to piss about with, an a major frustration over the last 2-3 years with O'Neill is him playing players who are clearly carrying a knock, but doing it pre season is lunacy.
What was that all about, why did he have his knee taped up? Surely MON isn't that stupid as to be playing an injured player in a pre-season friendly?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on August 06, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
Brian Little thinks Albrighton will probably struggle in the Prem at the moment.
Heskey was sluggish, possibly on account of his late holidays but he always looks so laboured. Because we're not a side who are good at keeping possesion in the opposition's half for the amount of times he holds it up and passes it back to someone, equally he often takes the pace out of our breaks by stopping and looking or just falling-over. Nice bloke and a tryer but we'll never progress with him as a regular striker for us.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on August 06, 2010, 11:36:32 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Quote from: "ozzjim"
Final point. A week before the season starts, if we have to tape Ashley Young's knee up to get him through a fecking friendly don't bloody play him. He is far too important to piss about with, an a major frustration over the last 2-3 years with O'Neill is him playing players who are clearly carrying a knock, but doing it pre season is lunacy.
The way Ash gets kicked about and/or falls over, it will be a miracle if that boy goes through his career without a major break or fracture.
My dad reckons that he won't have that long a career before something goes seriously wrong in terms of injuries.
I'm not sure I agree but it's what he thinks.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 06, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: "achilles"
Quote from: "ozzjim"
Final point. A week before the season starts, if we have to tape Ashley Young's knee up to get him through a fecking friendly don't bloody play him. He is far too important to piss about with, an a major frustration over the last 2-3 years with O'Neill is him playing players who are clearly carrying a knock, but doing it pre season is lunacy.
What was that all about, why did he have his knee taped up? Surely MON isn't that stupid as to be playing an injured player in a pre-season friendly?
Just maybe the England manager requested he play so he could get a good look at him... same with Warnock who had got stuck in traffic on way to game.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on August 06, 2010, 11:37:14 PM
Interestingly Young for looking poor (well injured half the time!) played through the two most incisive balls of the night, and one of the best bits of skill in the box almost creating an opening. Heskey was not offside for the through ball second half and Carew lacked the pace to beat the defence first half, but essentially on a night where he was clearly under par, Young created a number of opportunities still.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: sid cowans10 on August 06, 2010, 11:39:48 PM
just got back home the thing that pisses me off is why after some really nice play in midfield we get it wide and when the winger (whoever it my be) only has 1 striker to pick out i can count at least 4 times this happened nobody busts a gut to get in there
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 06, 2010, 11:40:03 PM
Disappointing Downing I thought, apart from the free kick.
He really does need a confidence boost and those going in would really help......
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 06, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: "sid cowans10"
just got back home the thing that pisses me off is why after some really nice play in midfield we get it wide and when the winger (whoever it my be) only has 1 striker to pick out i can count at least 4 times this happened nobody busts a gut to get in there
This is what I hope Ireland can bring to the picnic. He seems to have that canny knack of arriving - platt like - into the box.
My reservation is whether he tracks back enough to be in central two in midfield. However if he plays just behind a striker a la Young tonight, then I think we'll be saying "Milner who", this time next year...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2010, 11:46:12 PM
NRC looked good tonight I thought, as did Albrighton. Downing's final ball was as disappointing as ever, so much for the mythical "full pre-season". Heskey was as pointless as ever.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 06, 2010, 11:54:18 PM
Why did Little think Albrighton would struggle? I was impressed with him today.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: sid cowans10 on August 07, 2010, 12:00:54 AM
totally agree dante maybe another striker too
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 07, 2010, 12:20:32 AM
Quote from: "sid cowans10"
totally agree dante maybe another striker too
The problem with adding another striker is it will necessitate the use of just two central midfielders or less width.
With MON's obsession with two out and out wingers I think we need an extra body in the centre or a second striker than is willing and able to drop into CM.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on August 07, 2010, 12:32:16 AM
I didn't see much wrong with Downing tonight. He put some decent crosses in. It's not his fault there was always only one claret and blue shirt in the box against three or four Valencia players.
I certainly thought he played better than Ashley Young.
I also think Albrighton will get a lot games this season. I was impressed by his contribution.
Heskey - someone please end the nightmare.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 07, 2010, 12:34:46 AM
Just got in, proably saw the game different to you lot as I was pissed...
why the fook we need a RB , Luke Young and Beye were very good .. and these guys can play different positions when needed.
NRC was very good in the middle for me and Albrighton had a great game, Start him next week...
The rest did ok , nothing spectactular....... Downing, again, just dont to it for me, good free kick at the end but come on man, give me some claret and blue bollocks..
some good young uns coming through and we desperate need creativity and a goal scorer......
Lets hope MON spends the Milner money well.... and Ireland would be great, if we can get him...
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: john e on August 07, 2010, 01:02:19 AM
anyone that thought Downing had a good game tonight, will not be disappointed with him next season, cus thats what you are going to get,
i would want to see a lot more for my 12 mill, but everone to there own.
dont like NRC but he played well tonight thoight he had a great game, as did allbrighton, who is already a far better player than Downing will ever be.
good all round performance for friendly, bit better than i was expecting, now if we go and get Ireland in and maybe Keene, we will be far more entertaining than we were last season.
still got to dump Downing though, he is a complete waste of space
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: john e on August 07, 2010, 01:04:26 AM
just re re read my post, and it gives the impresion i dont like Downing, which is correct
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2010, 01:22:57 AM
Reasonably encouraging display, especially from Beye. As for NRC, he's showed just why he's so frustrating. If he plays like that all the time - absolutely no problem, valuable squad member, worthy of fighting for a place. Problem is that's the first time he's played like that in any game since Liverpool at Anfield last year.
Stan surely convinced the doubters of how good a footballer he is, he really is by far our best technician. John E, I have to completely disagree about Downing, I don't know which sport you're watching. Downing was very bright and full of ideas, and the free kick at the end of the game was a superb effort, to get it to dip like that from that sort of range is not easy. Albrighton was very good, but Downing is better right now.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: sid cowans10 on August 07, 2010, 01:26:35 AM
i for one dont think we will miss milner if of course we bring in a good replacement as we didnt play that bad tonight and didnt really miss him and the sooner he goes now the better now
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2010, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: "sid cowans10"
i for one dont think we will miss milner if of course we bring in a good replacement as we didnt play that bad tonight and didnt really miss him and the sooner he goes now the better now
Looking at the team tonight, it did seem to me at least that Ireland would be a far better solution to our problems than Milner.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 07, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "sid cowans10"
i for one dont think we will miss milner if of course we bring in a good replacement as we didnt play that bad tonight and didnt really miss him and the sooner he goes now the better now
Looking at the team tonight, it did seem to me at least that Ireland would be a far better solution to our problems than Milner.
agree with u there Monty but I thought Albrighton was better than Downing tonight,,, at least he gave us some impact at times... hopefully he can progress and be a good player for us
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2010, 01:41:25 AM
I thought Albrighton was more consistent but Downing more imaginative - which is strange as you'd figure, with their ages, that it would be the other way round.
I have high hopes for Albrighton. Looks so assured on the ball and explosive in the right areas. Our future looks ok, doesn't it?
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 07, 2010, 01:47:14 AM
Our youngsters look good , If MON spends the Milner money well and then our future will be ok .... I do think we will be a better team next season without Milner, this move is good for us..
and forget McGeady, stick with Albrighton.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2010, 01:56:04 AM
100% agree, JP.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on August 07, 2010, 02:56:54 AM
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Why did Little think Albrighton would struggle? I was impressed with him today.
Going from memory, and I probably didn't qualify it earlier - he was saying that Young and Downing will be crucial to Villa this season. He said he's in regular contact with Bryan Jones (?), the academy director at Villa who often mentions Albrighton. He thought Albrighton did reasonably well tonight but expressed reservations about him being able to perform consistently in the league. ''Does he have the extra bit you need to be a Premiership player? I think he would find it difficult.'' were more or less his words.
By the way, Monty reminded me, yes, Petrov was excellent tonight. The same touch of class as always but he seemed more dominating in the middle than usual.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Guy M on August 07, 2010, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: "citizenDJ"
I know it doesn't seem too likely at this stage, but I do hope we keep hold of NRC. He really could be such a valuable player for us as a defensive midfielder in a central three.
I really don't see him going anywhere. Was made captain for part of the game again last night and I think he'll play quite a bit this season as part of a 5-man midfield.
I still think he'll probably be off in 12 months once his contract is up, but I think MON likes him as a player even if they did have a bit of a falling out and both parties seems happy enough with the uneasy truce.
Quote from: "ez"
Anyone wish they'd gone?
No, because I watched the game with a couple of friends with some drinks and nibbles, paused the match at half-time to be able to have a proper dinner and then returned to the game at our convenience. If they could do the same at Wembley, maybe those posh middle tier seats wouldn't sit empty after half-time. And don't think Richard Scudamore's equivalent hasn't already considered it.
I did however really quite enjoy the game. League and cup football is over-rated. Sorry Mr McGregor, but friendlies with nothing at all riding on them are what do it for me nowadays. Pre-1888 never mind pre-1992 is where it's at.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on August 07, 2010, 09:22:54 AM
Thought we played more football, more on the floor and certainly better to watch. Not sure about AY up front as he is out of the game too much. I'd forgotten Sidwell had come on - he offers nothing.
Albrighton stood out and Clark looked solid out of the youngsters. I hope they get their chance this season.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on August 07, 2010, 09:43:29 AM
Good game last night and fair work out for the team ahead of next week. From the team that started: Best performance: Albrighton, Reo-Coker, L Young, Beye (yes)
Improving: Clark
Adequate: Carew, Friedel, Dunne, Petrov
Must improve: A Young, Downing (very disappointing)
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: sfx412 on August 07, 2010, 10:05:17 AM
From reading the above there is more faith in Albrighton than shown by his manager and most other pundit.
I liked Ireland 2 seasons ago but last season he did not impress me. Or his manager and fans.I appreciate he's the face saving part of the Milner loss, but like Sidwell, the better than Barry midfielder,I'm not expecting him to be the wonder player many are proposing. Assuming he moves of course.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 07, 2010, 10:22:38 AM
Regardless of how good McGeady is or is not, I certainly wouldn't see the point in buying him for such big money when Albrighton has done such a good job pre-season.
Actually, what I mean by that is, I wouldn't see the point in making that kind of player a priority in these times of more limited funds. There are other areas of the pitch which need the money far more.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on August 07, 2010, 10:27:05 AM
Positives from last night:Beye, Clark, Albrighton,and most of the youngsters who came on.
4:4:1:1 system, i like it, and with Gabby in the team, and hopefully Keane/Ireland even more so.
Negatives:Neither Carew/Heskey are good enough/mobile enough at the top level. Need better passing midfielders in the middle of the park, too pedestrian, too many touches.Delph wiil improve it, and a.n.other midfielder probably would as well. AYoung did'nt really work in th hole.
But tbh, ad i think Mazrim said earlier, IF Milner goes , and we get Keane.Ireland , Flamini, and Onohua, and even McGeady , then we will be a lot better than last year.
NRC, and Beye for me played well last night, but we need better quality to improve.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 07, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
I'm also a fan of the formation, but think Ireland or Keane would be better in the number 10- role than Ashley.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
I prefer it to be 4-4-1-1 out of position and more like 4-1-4-1 in position. One way or another, it's all dependent on Keane (let's assume it's Keane) playing closer to the midfield than to the forward for most of the time, drifting wide and making late runs and so forth. I hope this is what will happen, as when players like Keane get older they tend to start to play deeper, so let's hope that happens.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 07, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: "Monty"
I thought Albrighton was more consistent but Downing more imaginative - which is strange as you'd figure, with their ages, that it would be the other way round.
I have high hopes for Albrighton. Looks so assured on the ball and explosive in the right areas. Our future looks ok, doesn't it?
Is that like bright but at the lowest point on the dimmer switch?
Downing played in fits and starts last night and almost won the game for us at the death. He is really beginning to infuriate me though, he needs to get more physical and put in far more effort if he is to make an impact. A big season for him and his career.
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 07, 2010, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: "eamonn"
Quote from: "Matt Collins"
Why did Little think Albrighton would struggle? I was impressed with him today.
Going from memory, and I probably didn't qualify it earlier - he was saying that Young and Downing will be crucial to Villa this season. He said he's in regular contact with Bryan Jones (?), the academy director at Villa who often mentions Albrighton. He thought Albrighton did reasonably well tonight but expressed reservations about him being able to perform consistently in the league. ''Does he have the extra bit you need to be a Premiership player? I think he would find it difficult.'' were more or less his words.
By the way, Monty reminded me, yes, Petrov was excellent tonight. The same touch of class as always but he seemed more dominating in the middle than usual.
The only way I can see Albrighton struggling is physicalyy - namely when he comes up against a physical player I can see him getting bullied
Title: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 07, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
Positives from last night:Beye, Clark, Albrighton,and most of the youngsters who came on.
4:4:1:1 system, i like it, and with Gabby in the team, and hopefully Keane/Ireland even more so.
Negatives:Neither Carew/Heskey are good enough/mobile enough at the top level. Need better passing midfielders in the middle of the park, too pedestrian, too many touches.Delph wiil improve it, and a.n.other midfielder probably would as well. AYoung did'nt really work in th hole.
But tbh, ad i think Mazrim said earlier, IF Milner goes , and we get Keane.Ireland , Flamini, and Onohua, and even McGeady , then we will be a lot better than last year.
NRC, and Beye for me played well last night, but we need better quality to improve.
Couldnt agree more about the middle
If that midfield last nght was our starting midfield we we be lucky to make the top 10. No creativity and that predictable that a unknown tribe from the Amazon would know that all we do is get it wide to our wingers.
Carew - far too immobile and heskey is just a wanker which leaves Gabby
Title: Re: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 08, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
What impressed me most was the 1st touch of the Valencia players. I recorded the match on a hard drive thingy-even their full backs had amazing touch. It made heskey look like a total donkey! I mean here's an ex international looking like he coudn't trap a ball to save his life. no wonder the europeans are very down on the english model(all pace and power with less skill)
albrighton looked good though(touchwise) I hope that MON plays him and is not just teasing us with his inclusion
Title: Re: Pre-season Friendlies Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on August 08, 2010, 06:46:46 PM