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Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 11, 2010, 05:53:13 PM
Not sure if this type of thing hasd been posted before,but im sure I was at a game at Villa Park in the 92/93 season and Frank Mcavennie played a couple of games for us.

 Was it against Southampton and he set up a goal for Dalian?

  Can someone confirm this for my own sanity,and are there any other examples of a short lived Villa career?
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: Legion on June 11, 2010, 08:03:57 PM
Yes. 3 appearances made in 1992, no goals scored.
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: Legion on June 11, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
Try here:

http://www.astonvillaplayerdatabase.com/
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 12, 2010, 09:35:23 AM
Ta,glad to know that im not losing it!
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Post by: richard moore on June 12, 2010, 10:23:17 AM
I often think the same about:

Paul Mortimer

Mark Kinsella

Emile Heskey

Peter Schmeichel (can't even remember how to spell his name!)

The wee Scottish fella from a couple of seasons ago whose name I can't even remember now

Kachloul (again, can't even remember how to spell it)

Hadjii (ditto)

Calderwood


And probably lots more!!!
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Post by: curiousorange on June 12, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
The Scottish fella has to be Shaun Maloney.
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Post by: ez on June 12, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Adrian Heath
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Post by: TheSandman on June 12, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
I can't remember the guys name Rob Edwards? Rob Andrews? but he was a full back played a few games for us in 2004ish.

Zat Knight

Aaron Hughes

Carlton Cole
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: richard moore on June 12, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
The Scottish fella has to be Shaun Maloney.


Ah thank you, you can genuinely see I had forgotten he ever played for us!
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Post by: richard moore on June 12, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
Tommy Craig

Andy Blair
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Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on June 12, 2010, 11:08:25 PM
Steve Foster <shudder>
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Post by: JD on June 13, 2010, 12:01:03 AM
Bosko Balaban

Ivo Stas?????
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: frank on June 13, 2010, 12:29:28 AM
Robert Hopkins
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2010, 12:49:03 AM
Some of them were too bad or too Robert Hopkins to forget, but the most anonymous Villa players of my recollection are Adrian Heath and Habib Beye.
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Post by: luke25 on June 13, 2010, 01:27:11 AM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
I can't remember the guys name Rob Edwards? Rob Andrews? but he was a full back played a few games for us in 2004ish.
I remember a game he played for us against Chelsea at home, not sure if it was his debut, were he gave one of the best attacking full back displays ive seen from one of our lot, shortly after that he was sold to Wolves for something like 300k
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Post by: SarkGrime on June 13, 2010, 06:44:48 AM
Trevor Hockey
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Post by: villasjf on June 13, 2010, 09:08:02 AM
Nil Lampty, and Naj Gharib sorry if spelling is wrong, also congratulations for the excellent work done by the person who has compiled to A to Z of Villa players.
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Post by: russon on June 13, 2010, 01:30:23 PM
Didier Agathe
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Post by: frank on June 13, 2010, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: "luke25"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
I can't remember the guys name Rob Edwards? Rob Andrews? but he was a full back played a few games for us in 2004ish.
I remember a game he played for us against Chelsea at home, not sure if it was his debut, were he gave one of the best attacking full back displays ive seen from one of our lot, shortly after that he was sold to Wolves for something like 300k
Our Rob Edwards went from Wolves to Blackpool, so he'll be back in the PL next season
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 13, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: "Nick Lees"
Steve Foster <shudder>


 Was he that bad for us? We we sold him to Luton he was a hero down there,in a pretty good team a the time.
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: frank on June 13, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
I don't have much recollection of Paul Elliott MBE when he was with us, though I see he played a number of games. We were very poor then (1985-7), so perhaps nobody really stood out.
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Post by: Legion on June 13, 2010, 03:23:13 PM
Gilles de Bilde
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Post by: Legion on June 13, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
Øyvind Leonhardsen
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Post by: KevinGage on June 13, 2010, 03:47:45 PM
Alan Mcloughlin.

Better known for his stints at Pompey and Swindon, scoring the equalizer that put Ireland through to the WC in USA 94 and being part of that WC squad.

Came on loan to us in 1991.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2010, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: "frank"
I don't have much recollection of Paul Elliott MBE when he was with us, though I see he played a number of games. We were very poor then (1985-7), so perhaps nobody really stood out.


He's another player that got better with ever game he missed. A distinctly average defender everywhere, once he was injured he became the English Franco Baresi.
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Post by: ez on June 13, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "frank"
I don't have much recollection of Paul Elliott MBE when he was with us, though I see he played a number of games. We were very poor then (1985-7), so perhaps nobody really stood out.


He's another player that got better with ever game he missed. A distinctly average defender everywhere, once he was injured he became the English Franco Baresi.

I believe it was Dean Saunders who injured him. Chelsea fans always gave Deano stick for it.
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Post by: gervilla on June 13, 2010, 06:23:57 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Alan Mcloughlin.

Better known for his stints at Pompey and Swindon, scoring the equalizer that put Ireland through to the WC in USA 94 and being part of that WC squad.

Came on loan to us in 1991.

I had no memory of him playing for us. He played in 1 ZDS Cup game.
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: LeeB on June 13, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
Bernard Gallagher.
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: gervilla on June 13, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
Emile Heskey.... Oh crap !
Title: Did he really play for us?
Post by: KevinGage on June 14, 2010, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: "gervilla"
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Alan Mcloughlin.

Better known for his stints at Pompey and Swindon, scoring the equalizer that put Ireland through to the WC in USA 94 and being part of that WC squad.

Came on loan to us in 1991.

I had no memory of him playing for us. He played in 1 ZDS Cup game.


Came on v Luton at home in the league too IIRC.

We were already 4-0 up at that stage.
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Post by: OldUser on June 14, 2010, 11:50:18 AM
Malcolm Allen. I'm sure his debut was away at Leicester, and someone else made their debut that day. I still owe a bloke some money from that day, so make yourself known whoever it was that lent me the extra 50p or whatever it was to get in, having missed the cheap train and had to get the expensive one and therby using all me pocket money.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 14, 2010, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: "IanB"
Malcolm Allen. I'm sure his debut was away at Leicester, and someone else made their debut that day. I still owe a bloke some money from that day, so make yourself known whoever it was that lent me the extra 50p or whatever it was to get in, having missed the cheap train and had to get the expensive one and therby using all me pocket money.


Me.
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Post by: OldUser on June 14, 2010, 12:15:58 PM
I might've known your hand'd come up!
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Post by: LeeB on June 14, 2010, 03:19:20 PM
Quote from: "IanB"
Malcolm Allen. I'm sure his debut was away at Leicester, and someone else made their debut that day. I still owe a bloke some money from that day, so make yourself known whoever it was that lent me the extra 50p or whatever it was to get in, having missed the cheap train and had to get the expensive one and therby using all me pocket money.


Mark Lillis made his scoring debut that day.

Malcolm Allen had a lovely tan.
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Post by: OldUser on June 14, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
Ta Lee - Lillis was my hero for a short time.
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Post by: Gareth on June 15, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: "frank"
Quote from: "luke25"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
I can't remember the guys name Rob Edwards? Rob Andrews? but he was a full back played a few games for us in 2004ish.
I remember a game he played for us against Chelsea at home, not sure if it was his debut, were he gave one of the best attacking full back displays ive seen from one of our lot, shortly after that he was sold to Wolves for something like 300k
Our Rob Edwards went from Wolves to Blackpool, so he'll be back in the PL next season


I seem to remember him going on a galloping run one game and chipping a 30 yarder onto the bar...

Jon Bewers - few minutes at Spurs

Gustavo Bartelt, watched him on the day he signed in a friendly at Bromsgrove and also a reserve game, cant remember if he played for the first team though.
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Post by: peter w on June 16, 2010, 10:37:03 PM
Ronny Johnsen

Peter Schmeichel

Mel Pejic

Steve Watson
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Post by: Villan For Life on June 16, 2010, 10:43:01 PM
Neale Cooper.

Always seemed to be injured
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Post by: Darcy and the Curtains on June 16, 2010, 11:40:22 PM
Neale cooper. The "new" Graeme Souness was n`t  he ?                

      Simon Stainrod.                                                                        
                                                                                                         
      Didier Six.                                                                                    

      Good debuts then faded badly.
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Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on June 17, 2010, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: "gervilla"
Quote from: "KevinGage"
Alan Mcloughlin.

Better known for his stints at Pompey and Swindon, scoring the equalizer that put Ireland through to the WC in USA 94 and being part of that WC squad.

Came on loan to us in 1991.

I had no memory of him playing for us.


Ditto.

For me he is synonymous with Portsmouth.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on June 17, 2010, 09:41:36 AM
David Hunt
Mike Pejic
Charlie Young
Frank Pimblett
Tony Betts
Brian Rowan
John Fashanu
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Post by: andyaston on June 17, 2010, 04:42:03 PM
Garry Penrice and Andy Comyn
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 17, 2010, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: "andyaston"
Andy Comyn


I've got his autograph......
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Post by: SarkGrime on June 17, 2010, 06:01:40 PM
Barry Ansell, who Mark Ansell claimed as a relative, a brother I think.

I knew he played one game for us in 1967/68. What I found out only by looking at Jorgen Bolin's  excellent site was that that one appearance was on Boxing Day 1967.

So what had Charlie Aitken been up to on Xmas Day, eh?

We lost 0-3 away at Cardiff. I wonder if Barrie Jones 'tore young Ansell a new one', as my dear old aunt used to say.
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Post by: Legion on June 17, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: "SarkGrime"
Barry Ansell, who Mark Ansell claimed as a relative, a brother I think.

I knew he played one game for us in 1967/68. What I found out only by looking at Jorgen Bolin's  excellent site was that that one appearance was on Boxing Day 1967.

So what had Charlie Aitken been up to on Xmas Day, eh?

We lost 0-3 away at Cardiff. I wonder if Barrie Jones 'tore young Ansell a new one', as my dear old aunt used to say.


Correct: http://www.avfp.co.uk/markansell
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Post by: SarkGrime on June 17, 2010, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: "Legion"

Correct: http://www.avfp.co.uk/markansell

So that's where I read about the Mark Ansell connection. You posted this on Ian Robo's forum didn't you. Though curiously I don't remember seeing the bit about Cardiff and Barrie Jones, honest!

Nice contribution by Mark Ansell isn't it?
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Post by: ronshirt on June 18, 2010, 06:55:15 PM
Harry Gregory. I think I saw him play.
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on June 19, 2010, 11:43:46 AM
Henrik Larsen?

No, not 'Henrik Larsson' but a Dane with a similar name.

Remember watching him in a reserve game at Walsall and err, that was about it.
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on June 20, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
Quote from: "eric woolban woolban"
Henrik Larsen?

No, not 'Henrik Larsson' but a Dane with a similar name.

Remember watching him in a reserve game at Walsall and err, that was about it.


Against Man Utd wasn't it.  As I've said on here many times, he was the most out-of-condition player i've ever seen.  It was a shame as he looked a cracking player in Euro '92.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on June 24, 2010, 06:30:07 PM
Franz Carr and Carl Tiler.
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Post by: gervilla on June 24, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
David Hughes.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on June 25, 2010, 09:26:23 AM
Tommy Craig - my least favourite player as a kid.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 28, 2010, 05:12:18 PM
Michael Boulding
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Post by: eamonn on July 01, 2010, 02:46:47 AM
Probably mentioned but at the time it felt strange seeing Ginola in a Villa shirt and almost a decade on (scary in't it?) it still seems strange to think that he spent a year with us.
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on July 01, 2010, 01:38:30 PM
Drobny

Adam Rachel (Got to be the ugliest Villa player too)

David Hughes - fantastic debut (v Liverpool?) and then what happened?
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Post by: curiousorange on July 01, 2010, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: "garyshawsknee"
Franz Carr and Carl Tiler.


Franz Carr scored for Forest in one of my early Villa home games. It finished 1-1.

Next I heard of him, he'd put us into the FA Cup semi-final.
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Post by: TaxDodger on July 01, 2010, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Drobny

Adam Rachel (Got to be the ugliest Villa player too)

David Hughes - fantastic debut (v Liverpool?) and then what happened?


I remember him managing Barry Town to relegation from the Welsh Premier League season during the 2003/4 season.
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on July 01, 2010, 09:44:57 PM
Gilles de Bilde
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Post by: Olof's Beard on July 01, 2010, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Franz Carr and Carl Tiler.


Franz Carr scored for Forest in one of my early Villa home games. It finished 1-1.[/quote]

The first ever Villa game I went too.  Not so long back, I found a little notepad in which I'd written a match report of that game.  The eight year old me had actually used the pun "Carr drove his way through the Villa defence to equalise".
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 01, 2010, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Drobny

Adam Rachel (Got to be the ugliest Villa player too)

David Hughes - fantastic debut (v Liverpool?) and then what happened?


I remember him managing Barry Town to relegation from the Welsh Premier League season during the 2003/4 season.


Not quite true (and I acknowledge my anorakness for knowing this!).
Hughes was manager for a short spell in 2003/4 during the season when it all went tits up for Barry, the club went into administration and all the players were ousted, Barry completed the season with a team mainly made up from players from a local works team. It was Colin Addison who was in charge when they were relegated though.
Hughes did then take charge the following season when they were again relegated.
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Post by: curiousorange on July 01, 2010, 10:49:23 PM
Quote from: "Olof's Beard"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
Franz Carr and Carl Tiler.


Franz Carr scored for Forest in one of my early Villa home games. It finished 1-1.


The first ever Villa game I went too.  Not so long back, I found a little notepad in which I'd written a match report of that game.  The eight year old me had actually used the pun "Carr drove his way through the Villa defence to equalise".[/quote]

Probably not the thing to admit but I thought the kit Forest wore that day rocked, with Shipstones Fine Beers as the sponsor. Probably 'cos it was red, and I don't think I'd ever seen a coloured sponsor before. Obviously I was blind to the Villa away kits of the period!

Nice pun btw. If I was eight and I'd written that I'd be chuffed. Actually, I'd be chuffed to write it now.
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Post by: TaxDodger on July 02, 2010, 01:29:39 AM
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
Quote from: "VillaSubmariner"
Drobny

Adam Rachel (Got to be the ugliest Villa player too)

David Hughes - fantastic debut (v Liverpool?) and then what happened?


I remember him managing Barry Town to relegation from the Welsh Premier League season during the 2003/4 season.


Not quite true (and I acknowledge my anorakness for knowing this!).
Hughes was manager for a short spell in 2003/4 during the season when it all went tits up for Barry, the club went into administration and all the players were ousted, Barry completed the season with a team mainly made up from players from a local works team. It was Colin Addison who was in charge when they were relegated though.
Hughes did then take charge the following season when they were again relegated.


See, I would have looked this up before posting to check I was right, but I didn't expect anyone on here to have any knowledge of mid 00s Welsh football so I thought I'd be safe! I have clearly underestimated the Heroes and Villains population.
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on July 02, 2010, 03:29:22 AM
No, just Dave Cooper!
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Post by: Holte L2 on July 25, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
Fabio Ferrerasi
Neil Cutler
Paul Chrichton
Vacalav Drobny
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Post by: Axl Rose on July 25, 2010, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: "eric woolban woolban"
Gilles de Bilde



didnt he have a goal disallowed against man utd on boxing day 2000? and those lot scored in the last minute?


also other names that deserve a mention

Ghariab? cant remember the correct spelling. An israeli defender
lamptey
kiraly
leonhardsen
allback....though he scored a few crucial goals to keep us up
simon grayson
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Post by: MadJohnnyC on July 25, 2010, 08:06:40 PM
Matthieu Berson
Eric Djemba Djemba
David Unsworth
Joey Gudjohnssen
Richard Walker
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Post by: peter w on August 03, 2010, 09:57:59 PM
Dean Spink
Scott Murray
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 04, 2010, 10:39:57 AM
John Rowan.

We played away to Watford early in the 1969/70 season and lost 3-0. The team performance was quite possibly even more abject than O`Learys attempt to have a team play a game of football at Doncaster Rovers.

It was John Rowans debut for Villa, it was the only 1st team game he played. The following season he re-surfaced at......Watford. Dont think he played many games for them either.
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Post by: peter w on August 04, 2010, 10:45:56 AM
The way he swans around you could add Platt into this, I suppose.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 04, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: "ronshirt"
Harry Gregory. I think I saw him play.


Harry Gregory was a real jovial cockney type that we bought from Charlton about 69/70.
Me and my mate were about 12 at the time,  saw him in the  Trinity stand at a reserve game and he was really larking about, you could hear his laughter echoing through the old stand with just a few hundred people in it.
My mate said he was laughing his head off so much it would come off and roll down the steps. After that we couldnt take him seriously, we still used to laugh about our daft teenage joke years later.
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Post by: asgpaul on August 19, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
David Unsworth....................tit!!!!     Didn't he feature in one pre-season game before being transferred to Everton after only joining us a few days/week earlier from West Ham?  I loved the way John Gregory took the piss and said Unsworth didn't realise were Villa Park was and joined by mistake or something along those lines.
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Post by: *shellac* on August 20, 2010, 07:17:51 AM
I think John Gregory also claimed that David "henpecked" Unsworth had to be home from training in time for his tea & that he thought Birmingham was "somewhere near Bolton".
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Post by: jay71 on August 24, 2010, 07:42:17 PM
David Hunt
Steve Sims
Neal Cooper
Nigel Callaghan
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Post by: RogerS on August 24, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
Steve Hodge.

Yes, I know he did, I just still can't believe it (bangs head against wall).
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Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2010, 10:18:53 AM
Mark Burke and Martin Carruthers spring to mind. My claim to fame is seeing Ivo Stas score for Villa in a pre-season friendly at Witney in 1991.
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Post by: peter w on September 15, 2010, 10:51:18 AM
I know its at the other end of the spectrum but I'll add Paul McGrath.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on September 15, 2010, 08:29:19 PM
I know its at the other end of the spectrum but I'll add Paul McGrath.

I think this was the only time we have ever had the best player in the world in a particular position play for us in modern (i.e. since 1945) times.
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Post by: Lee on September 21, 2010, 12:35:21 PM
Quote from: eric woolban woolban
Henrik Larsen?

No, not 'Henrik Larsson' but a Dane with a similar name.

Remember watching him in a reserve game at Walsall and err, that was about it.

Against Man Utd wasn't it.  As I've said on here many times, he was the most out-of-condition player i've ever seen.  It was a shame as he looked a cracking player in Euro '92.

Probably because after every Reserve game at Walsall, he was necking a few pints of Gas Water down his neck in the "Players Lounge"

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Post by: Lee on September 21, 2010, 12:35:35 PM
David Farrell
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Post by: TheSandman on September 29, 2010, 04:50:46 PM
Scott Murray.

Who?
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Post by: curiousorange on September 29, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
Scott Murray.

Who?

Sporcle claims another victim!
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Post by: Simon Ward on October 01, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
Scott Murray.

Who?


Indeed

Sporcle claims another victim!
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on October 12, 2010, 09:09:16 AM
Found out today that DJ Campbell played for our Youth Team.
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Post by: *shellac* on October 13, 2010, 07:26:08 AM
Before Chesham Utd, He was with us as a trainee but was not offered a professional contract.  That was way back in 1999 or 2000, can't really remember the actual year.
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Post by: robbo1874 on October 15, 2010, 03:48:06 AM
Don't think anyone has mentioned john Fashanu yet - truly a low point for the club. Every photo of him seems to be in that disgraceful red green and black stripe muller abomination of a kit too. did he only ever play in away games?
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Post by: gervilla on October 22, 2010, 09:14:38 PM
Daryl Duffy
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Post by: Chris Harte on October 23, 2010, 10:31:12 PM
Don't think anyone has mentioned john Fashanu yet - truly a low point for the club. Every photo of him seems to be in that disgraceful red green and black stripe muller abomination of a kit too. did he only ever play in away games?
No. I remember him having a physical battle in a home game with QPR. He was taken off in the second half. The cynics suggested it was only to get his teeth fixed so that his TV career wouldn't suffer.
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Post by: darren woolley on October 28, 2010, 06:11:03 PM
Didier Agathe we had him on loan did'nt rate him.
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