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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: PaulTheVillan on March 25, 2009, 03:01:17 PM
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Player You've seen at VP?
I thought Valencia was brilliant last season, and muntari was good also when Pompey beat us.
Years ago v Celta Vigo I thought Mostovoi was brilliant.
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David White for Man Citeh.
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Lennon was brilliant for Spuds @ VP this season.
Wagner Love looked class as well.
When Manure beat us 4-1 in the league last year I thought Anderson ran the show, absolutely superb.
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Memories section innit.
Robbie Fowler and Gerard always seem/ed to do well against us. Usually Shearer and Le Tiss too.
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Years ago v Celta Vigo I thought Mostovoi was brilliant.
I agree with that.
More recently, Mark Halsey was outstanding for Arsenal a few seasons back. Even dummying a Thiery Henry free kick.
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Memories section innit.
Robbie Fowler and Gerard always seem/ed to do well against us. Usually Shearer and Le Tiss too.
It gets moved when Lee arrives home!
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Wagner Love (CSKA)
Vieira (Arse)
Beelzebub (QPR)
Sutton (Blackburn)
The bloke with the mullet and white boots that scored a hattrick (Varteks)
I'm too young to remember Cruyff and Boniek but my dad says they were brilliant at Villa Park.
Anyone remember if Pele was any good against us?
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Mod wannabes ;)
Downing always has a good game at VP
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Dalgliesh always scared me whenever he had the ball,
Le Tiss seemed to enjoy playing us, as did Rushie.
And dare i say it Trevor Francis always had a field day at VP whoever he was playing for
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Remember being sat in North Stand upper when we got battered by Arsenal one season, the Gooners spent all match chanting for Charlie Nicholas, while Tony Woodcock slaughtered our back four almost single handed.
Not sure it was the greatest performance I've seen from an opposition player, but has lived in the memory as one of the least rewarded by his own fans.
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David White for me too i'm afraid.
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In days of old:
Cruyff - never tire of saying how brilliant he was
Bobby Tambling - scored 5 and went off, declared.
More recently, another vote for David White for one specific performance and Le Tissier, Fowler and Gerrard for always seeming to do well against us.
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Sulley Muntari... Scored two I think. That must have been the day Inter's scouts came to see him.
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Has to be Ronny Rosenthal when we beat them 4-2
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Much as it pains me - Francis when he got the hat trick for QPR was brilliant.
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Woodgate, for Newcastle, March/April-ish 2004.
And he was bloody good the other week, too.
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Shay Given played bloody good when Newcastle came to Villa Park in DOL's final season - we lost 2-1 but would surely have got a result but for him in goal.
Les Ferdinand played an absolute blinder for QPR in 1992-93 at Villa Park - he didnt score and they lost 2-0 but he bossed McGrath and Teale at times.
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Oh, and I lost count of the number of times that Robbie Savage completely bossed our supposedly superior midfields over the years.
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Ruud Gullit was brilliant one time against us, it may have been the Boxing Day game (96/7 I think) when Zola got two.
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Tim Cahill for Everton when we lost at home 3-1 to them under DOL.
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Cruyff by a long way.
Very few oppositon players get a standing ovation when they are substituted.
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Ruud Gullit was brilliant one time against us, it may have been the Boxing Day game (96/7 I think) when Zola got two.
I think that season we lost 1-0 to a Dennis Wise goal.
Gullit played.
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The whole Arsenal team were superb in DOL's second season. Scored 3 in the first 20 mins. Could have hit double figues.
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Tim Cahill for Everton when we lost at home 3-1 to them under DOL.
Yeah I remember that.
John Filan in goal for Blackburn when they beat us 3-1 at Villa Park (think it was in the year they went down). For some reason this display just sticks in my mind.
Henry at Highbury when we lost 5-0. Two amazing goals, though to be fair he was amazing against most teams.
David James has had a few great games against us.
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Tim Cahill for Everton when we lost at home 3-1 to them under DOL.
Yeah I remember that.
John Filan in goal for Blackburn when they beat us 3-1 at Villa Park (think it was in the year they went down). For some reason this display just sticks in my mind.
Henry at Highbury when we lost 5-0. Two amazing goals, though to be fair he was amazing against most teams.
David James has had a few great games against us.
John Filan has had a couple of great games against us.
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Years ago v Celta Vigo I thought Mostovoi was brilliant.
That would be mine as well. I always thought Gullit was outstanding as well.
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Oh, and I lost count of the number of times that Robbie Savage completely bossed our supposedly superior midfields over the years.
It was once.
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Mark Draper pissed all over us in the 4-4 with Leicester City.
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i was there when David White scored loads,
Les Ferdinand always payed well against the Villa , Even the one when won 4-1 never seen a player cause McGrath and Teale Problems, McGrath nearly always won the headers against any striker but that day Ferdinand won nearly all of them.
David James always has blinder against us.
Le tiss has scored some right Beuties at Villa park.
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Remember being sat in North Stand upper when we got battered by Arsenal one season, the Gooners spent all match chanting for Charlie Nicholas, while Tony Woodcock slaughtered our back four almost single handed.
Not sure it was the greatest performance I've seen from an opposition player, but has lived in the memory as one of the least rewarded by his own fans.
Was that when they beat us 6-2 and he scored 5 inside the first 50mins?
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And Woodencock got 4 didn't he, the bastard?
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I thought it was 5 Ian.
Anyone who thought Sunday was bad should have seen that game, now that was bad.
Putting a positive slant on things, after that Arsenal game, our next league game was away to Man Utd, which we won 2-1. Maybe an omen for April 5th?
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Boniek for Juventus in 1983.
Francis hat trick for QPR
Ian Rush whenever we played Liverpool
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Oh, and I lost count of the number of times that Robbie Savage completely bossed our supposedly superior midfields over the years.
It was once.
Nope!
I'm afraid it was at least 2-and-a-half times for Small Heath, and every time he played for Leicester at VP.
Christ, he'd never even been on the losing side at Villa Park until we beat Blackburn in September 2005!
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Robbie bastard Fowler. A pain in the arse for so many years.
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Ian Wright on Easter Monday '95, hat-trick in a 4-0 defeat at home.
I seem to remember him running through the whole team for his last one.
And that bastard Francis.
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Mark Draper pissed all over us in the 4-4 with Leicester City.
I remember that, he never quite played like that for us.
Steve McManaman always used to play well against us at Anfield.
I remember that Ian Wright Hat-Trick aswell. I remember him running upto the half way line after he scored one and just collapsed.
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Mark Draper pissed all over us in the 4-4 with Leicester City.
One of the only good games he had at VP :-
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Draper wasn't that bad for us. He started off well enough but after a year or two he started modelling his game on Ray Wilkins and it all went downhill from there.
Can't even remember him leaving us, his career just sort of petered out.
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Draper wasn't that bad for us. He started off well enough but after a year or two he started modelling his game on Ray Wilkins and it all went downhill from there.
Can't even remember him leaving us, his career just sort of petered out.
His first season was terrific and the talk of the town. only thing it lacked was a few more goals - i think he got 5 the first season then went a whole year without one. Once Gregory came in that was pretty much the end of Draper as a regular starter. Bit part player for the rest of that season.
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He always looked in a midfield 3 with Townsend and Taylor.
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He always looked in a midfield 3 with Townsend and Taylor.
looked good that should be
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He always looked in a midfield 3 with Townsend and Taylor.
or in a 2 with Townsend, Super Tom playing just ahead of them.
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Agreed the David White 4 goal display for Man City was devastating but there again Villa were poor that night - April 1991 wasn't it?
Another performance not mentioned yet was Regi Blinker for Sheffield Wednesday in the mid 90s - I think the score was 2 - 2 and he scored both for them and looked like a world beater!!
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Ted Drake without a doubt.
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Agreed the David White 4 goal display for Man City was devastating but there again Villa were poor that night - April 1991 wasn't it?
Another performance not mentioned yet was Regi Blinker for Sheffield Wednesday in the mid 90s - I think the score was 2 - 2 and he scored both for them and looked like a world beater!!
mind plays trick on me, i always thought White got all five that night. Who got their other? Quinn?
Blinker played like Pele that night. Beat Charles, Ehiogu AND Macca for his first goal
Rod Stewart played well at Villa Park summer of 1995. Luckily we'd avoided the drop by then so pressure was off and crowd turned up to enjoy the atmosphere.
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John Barnes put in one or two brilliant displays at VP.
George Boateng was brilliant for Coventry when they beat us 4-1, he's best perfromance at VP by some distance.
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Chris Waddle in our 2-0 defeat at White Hart Lane in 88-89 - scored two brilliant goals and looked world class.
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Ted Drake scored seven against us, end of debate.
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Ted Drake scored seven against us, end of debate.
I thought i was old remembering Woodcock scoring 5 against us!!!
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Ted Drake scored seven against us, end of debate.
I thought i was old remembering Woodcock scoring 5 against us!!!
I didn't say I remembered it!
Some on here remember Francis Drake!
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We played Ipswich at home one night in a cup match. I think we beat them 6-2 and one Dalian Atkinson playing for them scored a superb chipped goal - anyone remember that?
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
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It was Cruyf for Barcelona, i have never seen 1 player so dominant and instrumental in a team. It was genius, he got a pretty good reception from VP when he walked off.
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Cruyff by a long way.
Very few oppositon players get a standing ovation when they are substituted.
only just seen this as i just posted. In fact i have never seen any one play better, villa stopped trying to tackle him because they could not get near him, i remember him beating players while directing his team mates as i said pure genius
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Is there any video footage of Cruyff at Villa Park or were ITV busy covering Derby County that night?
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John Barnes put in one or two brilliant displays at VP.
George Boateng was brilliant for Coventry when they beat us 4-1, he's best perfromance at VP by some distance.
I remember that, he was outstanding.
We signed him and all he did was pass the fucker sideways
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We played Ipswich at home one night in a cup match. I think we beat them 6-2 and one Dalian Atkinson playing for them scored a superb chipped goal - anyone remember that?
Check out the arty picture of Dalian on Wikipedia
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Steve%26Daliancropped.jpg)
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It reads like he's edited the entry himself.
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
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Cruyff for Barcelona
Woodcock for Arsenal
Nattrass for Mborough
Hartson for Arsenal
Rush for liverpool (3-1)
Bloody hell there are loads.
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
This is sort of how I remember it too.
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We played Ipswich at home one night in a cup match. I think we beat them 6-2 and one Dalian Atkinson playing for them scored a superb chipped goal - anyone remember that?
Check out the arty picture of Dalian on Wikipedia
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Steve%26Daliancropped.jpg)
He looks like a bouncer.
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Woodgate, for Newcastle, March/April-ish 2004.
And he was bloody good the other week, too.
Same for me.
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We played Ipswich at home one night in a cup match. I think we beat them 6-2 and one Dalian Atkinson playing for them scored a superb chipped goal - anyone remember that?
Check out the arty picture of Dalian on Wikipedia
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Steve%26Daliancropped.jpg)
He looks like a bouncer.
Shaft!
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The Flying Pig 0-3 at Cov
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
Didn't he once give the Holte the wanker sign under his shirt when he was substituted? Or is my memory playing tricks?
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
Didn't he once give the Holte the wanker sign under his shirt when he was substituted? Or is my memory playing tricks?
He did, when he was walking backwards when Spink (or Bosnich) was about to take a goal kick. He got loads of stick that day though.
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Klinsmann in our 4-3 win at WHL
He was feckin brilliant 2nd half
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
Didn't he once give the Holte the wanker sign under his shirt when he was substituted? Or is my memory playing tricks?
He did, when he was walking backwards when Spink (or Bosnich) was about to take a goal kick. He got loads of stick that day though.
Sitting in the Trinity I wouldn't have seen it. You can see why Wenger struggles.
I'd guess it was that game when he was suspended for the final.
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Glenn Hoddle - early 80`s. Game ended 0 - 0 i think. He bossed the game.
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Carlton Palmer always looked like a cross between Cruyff and Maradona to me. I don't know why we were never interested in him.
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Any of the Juve team from '83. Boniek, Platini, Cabrini and Rossi.
I was about 12 years old and in awe.
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
Didn't he once give the Holte the wanker sign under his shirt when he was substituted? Or is my memory playing tricks?
He did, when he was walking backwards when Spink (or Bosnich) was about to take a goal kick. He got loads of stick that day though.
Sitting in the Trinity I wouldn't have seen it. You can see why Wenger struggles.
I'd guess it was that game when he was suspended for the final.
he did actually do it to the trinity road one season , may not be the same game tho .
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Erik Thorstvedt... always played a blinder against us
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Carlton Palmer always looked like a cross between Cruyff and Maradona to me. I don't know why we were never interested in him.
cos he was shite??
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Carlton Palmer always looked like a cross between Cruyff and Maradona to me. I don't know why we were never interested in him.
cos he was shite??
I think you may be missing one of the oldest running H&V jokes.
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Cruyff by a long way.
Very few oppositon players get a standing ovation when they are substituted.
Totally agree, he was absolutely brilliant and am proud to have seen a player like him at VP. Anyone remember who came on for his debut that night for Villa at centre forward?
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Downing always has a good game at VP
I agree with this. In truth, overall i never rated him. However whenever we played Boro (particularly at VP) the lad seemed to play his b*llocks off.
Obviously looking for a move here.....
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Beelzebub for QPR.
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Gordon Durie around 1990 / 1991
Neil Sullivan - Beni's debut
Woodgate - as mentioned above
Bergkamp - first half of the Santa Claus game.
Benni McCarthy / Alexander Mostovoi / Karpin?? / Salgado - Celta Vigo
Sol Campbell - again early 90's playing left back
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Nothing beats Mostovoi I'm afraid.
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Cruyff by a country mile.absolutely brilliant, a pleasure to watch and a privilege to be there.
Player who came on to make his debut was if memory serves me right Alan Evans
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before my time geezer ;)
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Boniek for Juventus - European Cup 1983
Francis for QPR - Hat trick
Ian Rush for Liverpool - Every time we played them
Ian Wright for Arsenal - After being taunted for 90 minutes after he was suspended for the European final, he pops up with a last minute winner. He ran his bollocks off for the whole match. He also let the Holte End know how much he enjoyed his goal.
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Hate to say it but Trevor Francis hat trick at villa park for qpr was top class!also I remember dean saunders giving god the run around for derby at the baseball ground-only time I ever saw big Paul taken apart like that ,maybe he'd had a night out before haha!
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Terry Cochrane for Boro in the seventies when we always seemed to play them midweek and lose in front of about 15,000.
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Hate to say it but Trevor Francis hat trick at villa park for qpr was top class
There was a fair bit of talk pre-game that the manager of the time, I forget who, was very interested in signing him. The reaction he got persueded the board it wouldn't be the most popular course of action.
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David White for Man City in the 5-1 at VP. He got 4 of them.
If we are talking about game winning then Fabregas' 20 minute cameo this season.
Ronaldo EVERY time he played us.
OH and Jussi Jaskelainen for Bolton when we lost 1-0 and battered them. He got MOTD save of the season from Cahill in that game.
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
It was the game we were singing "Ian Wright, where's your final gone", on account of his impending absence from Arsenals Cup Winners Cup final the following week due to suspension. When he got his 3rd he turned to the Holte and stood there with his arms raised.
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Going back to Ian Wright - wasn't that the match when after he scored, he gave a bit of stick back, but then ended up giving his shirt to some people in the crowd behind the dug out? Doug Out. *waves red card* *waves £ sign* *walks and chants a bit*
I think you're right. My memory is a bit flaky, but I used to sit behind the dugout at that time, and I remember him coming off with a couple of minutes left and I and many others gave him a standing ovation, to which he responded by applauding us.
The season before he'd been getting murderous stick off the Holte because he was missing the Cup Winner's Cup final through suspension, and then went and stuck the winner in at that end in the last minute.
I'll say this for him, he used to take some stick but always took it the right way.
This is sort of how I remember it too.
Was this about 1994? I remember that game vaguely, it's one of my very earliest Villa memory.
He scored the last really late on didn't he?
Anyone have a match report?
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Christian Vieri. UEFA Cup against Athletico Madrid. Best off the ball movement I have ever seen.
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Agree with that Rexy, maybe Gabby should get a video of that game, and watch and learn.
Le Tiss was always very good against us.
3 stand out though Gullit, about 2000, seemed to have so much time on the ball and space.
George Weah......another Chelsk player, but just oozed quality.
Freddie Kanoute.......about 2002, played up front on his own for WH, had Ugo, and Southgate against him, and was magnificent.A much better player than he was given credit for, would have loved him, still would, down VP.
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Christian Vieri. UEFA Cup against Athletico Madrid. Best off the ball movement I have ever seen.
Im with you on that one he gave Southgate dizzy spells.
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Alexander Mostovoi, Celta Vigo Ueffa Cup. 1998/1999.
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Mark Draper for Leicester City at Villa Park in 1995, you know, when we were 4-1 up with about 15 minutes to go - final score 4-4. He ran the show that night from midfield. I was delighted when we signed him a few months later. He was great in that 1995-96 season. His best performance for us in my opinion, was when we lost to Liverpool 3-0 at Old Trafford in the FA Cup semi-final a week after the League Cup victory at Wembley over Leeds. He was fantastic that day.
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For youngsters like me, ahem, the only contender, never mind winner, is Cruyff in 1978. Being a churlish teenager, I didn't applaud him though, as I was in despair at being 2-0 down. Honorable mentions to Platini, Boniek and all the Italian world cup winners who came and ruined our dreams in 1983.
My own favourite though was Brendan Batson in 1981. Seconds to go and he plays a sublime pass (forget the back pass bit) through to Peter Withe, who lobs the ball over Tony Godden, and, 12 seconds later, after the slowest shot in history, we have a last gasp winner against the Boggies and true momentum in the title race. A very underrated player who never received full credit for his role in our league winning campaign.
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Bastian Schweinstieger in Germanys 4-0 demolition of Argentina on Friday night.
That is exactly how a midfielder should play, he was sublime. He controlled the tempo of the game so Argentina were not allowed to play.
The best player on the pitch and that is saying something, with the likes of Messi, Tevez, etc' on show that day.
His mazy run into the box and cut back for Germanys 3rd was perfect.
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Got to be Bobby Tambling 5 goals for chelsea for me just in front of David white and Tony Woodcock .
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Alexander Mostovoi, Celta Vigo Ueffa Cup. 1998/1999.
I remember we just couldn't do a thing that night.
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years before my time but i have read about a certain player called Ted Drake who in one game single handedly took us to the cleaners
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years before my time but i have read about a certain player called Ted Drake who in one game single handedly took us to the cleaners
I have hand written season of notes for I think the 36/37 season? That my mate Bill, God rest his soul, kept in his Villa handbook and I'm sure Drake scored either five or all seven against us that day. Mind you there were ten or so goals in many fixtures that season as I recall.