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Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: richardhubbard on October 09, 2006, 06:27:07 PM
Who villa best number 1 since mid 70's
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: damon loves JT on October 09, 2006, 07:27:05 PM
Plenty of good shot-stoppers on that list. Bosnich could have been the best but ultimately never fulfilled.

Rimmer. I don't know what effect he had on the opposition, but by God he terrified me
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Breezeblock on October 09, 2006, 07:55:28 PM
I'd give it to Spinky over JR. very tight call tho'
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Exeter 77 on October 09, 2006, 07:56:25 PM
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Bosnich could have been the best but ultimately never fulfilled.


A waste! Rimmer for me if only for the double save from the penalty in Berlin 1981[/quote]
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: damon loves JT on October 09, 2006, 08:06:21 PM
Quote from: "Exeter 77"
Rimmer for me if only for the double save from the penalty in Berlin 1981


I can still picture my dad's face. I was nine, I'd gone to bed, he was so excited he woke me up to tell me...

I love the Villa.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: D.boy on October 09, 2006, 08:43:16 PM
Rimmer for me as he was the keeper when I started going to VP regularly and he didn't seem to have any weakness.
Spink was a close second.
Bossie was excellent shot stopper but wasn't quite full package (or ticket).
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: JD on October 09, 2006, 09:15:42 PM
Jimmy Rimmer. He was a brilliant keeper.  =D>
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Dave Cooper please on October 10, 2006, 10:00:37 AM
Rimmer for me, Bozzie might have pushed him close but his kicking was absolute shite!
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Oscar Arce on October 10, 2006, 10:09:19 AM
Has to be Jimmy Rimmer.
Bosnich could have been a great if only his head was right.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Bosco81 on October 10, 2006, 11:33:02 AM
Bosnich was the best I have seen, that save from Mark Hughes in the 94 cup final at 2-1 won us the cup.

If he could kick a ball he would have been the best keeper in the world.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: seanthevillan on October 10, 2006, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: "Exeter 77"


A waste! Rimmer for me if only for the double save from the penalty in Berlin 1981


I thought it hit the post and then he saved the follow up?

I caught the very end of Spink and then Bosnich, so for me it wuold be Bossie.

Loved the 'Bossie, give us a wave...' chant as well.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: tonyh on October 10, 2006, 12:29:28 PM
Jimmy Rimmer. Simply the best.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Fergal on October 10, 2006, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: "TheRonSaundersStand"
Jimmy Rimmer. Simply the best.

Have to agree.. Though Budgie was a character and a good keeper too.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: peter w on October 11, 2006, 12:29:37 PM
Rimmer for me. Although a vague memory I dan remmeber being chuffed to bits when we signed him from Arsenal. I think it was for £125-150,000. Which was a fair whack then. 1977 wasn't it?
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on October 11, 2006, 07:14:33 PM
Rimmer was a great keeper in an era when there were half a dozen great English goalkeepers around. That's why he didn't get the caps he deserved.
No other Villa keeper comes close to his consistency.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: We're splat out of luck on October 11, 2006, 10:09:59 PM
Bosnich was frighteningly good at Villa. He ticked all of the boxes.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: damon loves JT on October 11, 2006, 10:14:42 PM
Including the box marked `do you want to quit villa for the money, get involved in drugs and home-made porn and road traffic accidents and airhead supermodels, get dropped from the first team and generally piss your career away?' he put a big tick in that fecker.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Chris Harte on October 11, 2006, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: "damon green"
Including the box marked `do you want to quit villa for the money, get involved in drugs and home-made porn and road traffic accidents and airhead supermodels, get dropped from the first team and generally piss your career away?' he put a big tick in that fecker.

Drop "quit Villa", "road traffic accidents", "dropped from" and "piss career away" and that last statement sounds rather attractive! :-
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: damon loves JT on October 11, 2006, 10:25:56 PM
Chris, what you do in your own time...
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Chris Harte on October 11, 2006, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: "damon green"
Chris, what you do in your own time...

Chance would be a fine thing... okay, not bothered about the drugs, to be fair.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: damon loves JT on October 11, 2006, 10:29:21 PM
so we've narrowed it down to football, home-made porn, alcohol and Sophie Anderton.

fair enough
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Chris Harte on October 11, 2006, 10:34:16 PM
Quote from: "damon green"
so we've narrowed it down to football, home-made porn, alcohol and Sophie Anderton.

fair enough

You say that like it's a bad thing...
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Dave Clark Five on October 11, 2006, 10:44:04 PM
Jimmy Rimmer - I would still have him playing now.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: We're splat out of luck on October 11, 2006, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: "Chris Harte"
Quote from: "damon green"
so we've narrowed it down to football, home-made porn, alcohol and Sophie Anderton.

fair enough

You say that like it's a bad thing...


Somebody didn't watch any Celebrity Love Island ;)
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Dave Clark Five on October 11, 2006, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Bosnich was frighteningly good at Villa. He ticked all of the boxes.


What about not being able to put a goal kick over the halfway line?
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Chris Harte on October 11, 2006, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Quote from: "Chris Harte"
Quote from: "damon green"
so we've narrowed it down to football, home-made porn, alcohol and Sophie Anderton.

fair enough

You say that like it's a bad thing...


Somebody didn't watch any Celebrity Love Island ;)

No I didn't. Where did football come into that? :-s
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: We're splat out of luck on October 11, 2006, 11:26:23 PM
Quote from: "Chris Harte"
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Quote from: "Chris Harte"
Quote from: "damon green"
so we've narrowed it down to football, home-made porn, alcohol and Sophie Anderton.

fair enough

You say that like it's a bad thing...


Somebody didn't watch any Celebrity Love Island ;)

No I didn't. Where did football come into that? :-s


Haha, where didn't it?

Calum Best was bonking that Gascoigne girl. The merchandising takes care of itself.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: We're splat out of luck on October 11, 2006, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: "dave clark five"
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Bosnich was frighteningly good at Villa. He ticked all of the boxes.


What about not being able to put a goal kick over the halfway line?


I don't recall that being a continuous trait of his at all. Sounds like a bit of a myth.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Dave Clark Five on October 11, 2006, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Quote from: "dave clark five"
Quote from: "We're splat out of luck"
Bosnich was frighteningly good at Villa. He ticked all of the boxes.


What about not being able to put a goal kick over the halfway line?


I don't recall that being a continuous trait of his at all. Sounds like a bit of a myth.


Sorry to have to say it but it was a trait of his and I had many an argument with people who said that his other skills outweighed his weakness at taking a goal kick. Get a few videos out and see for yourself.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: seanthevillan on October 11, 2006, 11:36:40 PM
I agree with dave clark five. So many times me or my Dad would comment that "The problem with Bosnich is he can't kick a ball to a Villa player". I remember one game when the full backs made a concerted effort to give him a throwable option. My Dad said something about how this was a sign of a good team, or something, and some wag said "No, it's a sign of how he can't kick to save his life". Great keeper, very poor distribution. Having said that, though, I think his other skills did outweigh his one major weakness.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Dave Clark Five on October 11, 2006, 11:42:31 PM
Quote from: "seanthevillan"
I agree with dave clark five. So many times me or my Dad would comment that "The problem with Bosnich is he can't kick a ball to a Villa player". I remember one game when the full backs made a concerted effort to give him a throwable option. My Dad said something about how this was a sign of a good team, or something, and some wag said "No, it's a sign of how he can't kick to save his life". Great keeper, very poor distribution. Having said that, though, I think his other skills did outweigh his one major weakness.


My comment was intended to expand on the fact that I did not believe he 'ticked all the boxes'.  Another thing about Bosnich that I particularly disliked was when he has a column in the Argus. Spinksy was in goal at the time and Bosnich would be bemoaning his own luck at not getting a game; he seemed to be almost wishing that Nigel would get injured or play badly. I remember it quite clearly and occasionally ripped his article out of the paper as it pissed me off so much.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on October 16, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
Perhaps something to think about when we dismiss a younger player. Jimmy Rimmer was, at one point earlier in his career, almost entirely washed up and out of the big time.

He could never get past Alex Stepney at Man United and they dumped him out to Swansea (if memory serves me correctly), where former United keeper Harry Gregg worked on both his technique and his confidence. Eventually he got noticed again by Arsenal.

Rimmer was all-round excellent - shot-stopping, commanding his area, consistency - though of course one thing he didn't have to do that was Bosnich's achilles heel was to have to play the ball with his feet.
Title: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: bobcat on October 17, 2006, 06:50:37 PM
Bozzie excpet when he was playing against Fowler.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on November 11, 2012, 01:04:23 AM
Dont be daft there is no question Jimmy Rimmer, without him would we have won the league?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 11, 2012, 06:13:50 PM
In the last thirty years to the day it's got to be Bosnich now.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 11, 2012, 06:21:16 PM
Rimmer last played 27/12/82. Over a month to go yet before he can be replaced. A real shame that particular game was his last for us.
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on November 11, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
I was only thinking of Rimmer today, with regard to the reception he got from the home crowd on his first return with Villa.

He got a great reception, and the old lady who'd give him a sweet before each game was there for him behind the home goal.

These days it would be laced with acid or a powerful laxative :-)
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on November 11, 2012, 06:56:15 PM
In Rimmer's day goalkeepers could pick up backpasses so a lack of kicking ability wasn't so important. Rule changes mean it's become essential to be at least a competent kicker. Bosnich was a long way from being competent in this area. He couldn't even kick well when not put under pressure. There's no doubt Bosnich had all the athletic attributes but so did Rimmer who was also a model of consistency.
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 11, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Bossie.
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 11, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
Jimmy Rimmer, every time. Just thinking back to how the whole of the Holte would applaud him as he ran towards us to warm up before kick off makes the hairs on my face stand up. Brilliant days and a superb keeper.

Spinksy and Bosnich were both very good but nothing like Jimmy.
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Post by: bertlambshank on November 11, 2012, 11:58:17 PM
I named my cat Jimmy Rimmer.
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Post by: class_of_82 on November 12, 2012, 06:35:20 PM
suppose most people will go for rimmer who was a great keeper in a great never to be forgotten team. yet for me it was bosnich his agility and penalty stops were amazing. its just that my heart missed a beat when the ball was played back to him his kicking was awful but who can forget the penalty shoot out against tranmere. loved john burridge as well his antics when the ball was up the other end and he was doing his imaginary saves and star jumps etc was so funny also who can remember his one handed save to deny peter osgood at the holte end in the fa cup 3rd replay against southampton to this day one of the best saves i have seen. so many great memories that will never leave me
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Post by: willywombat on November 12, 2012, 09:26:17 PM
Jimmy Rimmer for me too by a country mile
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Post by: wittonwarrior on November 12, 2012, 10:17:30 PM
Burridge - pity he lacked height.  Remember Boxing day away game at OT when he just missed clenching two high balls into the area - que or however you spell it two goals.

Rimmer was simply such a safe pair of hands, not spectacular but he was just Mr Consistent.

Bosnich the most talented of all three but two spectacular and his kicking wasnt as good as Rimmer's. - I do take into consideration rules changes but Rimmer would have coped no doubt about that.
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Post by: clash city rocker on November 12, 2012, 10:23:07 PM
In 77 was in the lake district. Phoned my dad one night and he said we've just signed Jimmy Rimmer. I was totally underwhelmed. Shows what the f--k i know about goalkeepers. A legend.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on November 12, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
Something had to happen the defence just looked dodgy in the middle with Burridge.
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Post by: tomd2103 on November 13, 2012, 12:43:15 AM
Rimmer for me, Bozzie might have pushed him close but his kicking was absolute shite!

His kicking was awful when he first came into the side, but it did improve during his time at the club. Howler in the FA Cup final aside, I thought David James was a good during his time at Villa and so was Brad Friedel. 
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Post by: The Left Side on November 13, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
Rimmer although I am a bit young to remember him and can only go on tv footage, bossie would be my second choice.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on November 13, 2012, 11:17:03 PM
Jimmy Rimmer for consistency. On a good day Bossie was better than all I have seen but he wasn't as consistent as Jimmee. And his kicking was worthy of a girl guide.....
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Post by: QBVILLA on November 14, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
Never saw Rimmer apart from on tape. So for me it would be:
1.Bosnich
2.Spink
3. James
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Richie on November 14, 2012, 01:41:51 PM


For the benefit of Exeter and Damon, here's Jimmy's penalty save in Berlin, together with Tony Morley's world class second goal and 2 fingered salute to Sir Ron !

Bit fortunate as Jim had gone the wrong way for the original spot kick, but who knows if we would have got past the second round without this save ? Berlin were a great side and beat us at Villa Park.

The history books could be very different and for that reason, Jim gets my vote.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 15, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
Bosnich.
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Post by: QBVILLA on November 15, 2012, 12:12:48 PM
What happened to Lee Butler?
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Post by: Five Villa Tattoos on November 15, 2012, 02:29:41 PM
Spinksy for me, I always thought he would finish his career with us.
Least Favourite was Mervyn Day due to him being a right miserable bastard when I met  him at Bodymoor Heath.
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Post by: The Left Side on November 15, 2012, 03:25:39 PM
What happened to Lee Butler?

or stefan postma (whistling smiley thing)!
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 16, 2012, 01:09:03 PM
What happened to Lee Butler?

he's the goalkeeping coach at Doncaster.
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Post by: LeeB on November 16, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Bosnich.

At his best, which happily was entirely for us, he was a match winning goalkeeper.

And he was a bit mental and good value with crowd.
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Post by: Mortimer's Bear on November 17, 2012, 07:11:31 AM
Bosnich.
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Post by: pbavfckuwait on November 17, 2012, 07:40:11 AM
Rimmer every day of the week
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Post by: LeeB on November 19, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
Rimmer every day of the week

Do you? Fair play lad! :)
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 19, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
On his day Bosnich was one of the best in the world. He made the best save i've ever seen in the cup defeat against Coventry. And i'm still bitter that we weren't awarded a penalty in that game.
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Post by: LeeB on November 20, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
On his day Bosnich was one of the best in the world. He made the best save i've ever seen in the cup defeat against Coventry. And i'm still bitter that we weren't awarded a penalty in that game.

I remember it well, though to be fair to our unfortunate cousins they absolutely murdered us and Bossie kept us in it.
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Post by: ez on December 10, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: We're splat out of luck
Quote from: dave clark five
Quote from: We're splat out of luck
Bosnich was frighteningly good at Villa. He ticked all of the boxes.

What about not being able to put a goal kick over the halfway line?

I don't recall that being a continuous trait of his at all. Sounds like a bit of a myth.

Sorry to have to say it but it was a trait of his and I had many an argument with people who said that his other skills outweighed his weakness at taking a goal kick. Get a few videos out and see for yourself.
Didn't Rimmer also have an issue with his kick outs though? I still say Rimmer.
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Post by: He wears a magic hat on December 10, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Bosnich for me.

He had that arrogance that made me feel that if he was in goal then the opposition had no chance of scoring.

I remember going up to Sunderland during the League cup run 94. We got absolutely battered, Bosnich had a worldy we had 4 shot and won 4-1
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Post by: garyshawsknee on December 10, 2012, 06:57:07 PM
Bozzie for me as well,though his kicking was poor,he made saves that were really unbelievable at times,the best shot stopper ive ever seen. To be fair,Guzan reminds me of him a little,could easily be our No.1 for a while.
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Post by: Des Little on December 14, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
Close call but anyone who can come into a European Cup final and keep Bayern out for 80 minutes and help us win the thing gets my vote all day long.
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Post by: villan from luton on December 16, 2012, 02:36:24 PM
Jimmy Rimmer was an absolutely superb goalkeeper, amazing how many good keepers England had in that era, not sure why Clemence was chosen ahead of him mind,
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 17, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
Jimmy Rimmer was an absolutely superb goalkeeper, amazing how many good keepers England had in that era, not sure why Clemence was chosen ahead of him mind,

It's sad how bare the larder is now in the goalkeeping department compared to 30-35 years ago. Joe Hart aside, we've had no-marks like Rob Green and Scott Carson playing for their country. Rimmer was in a long queue of excellent English keepers which included Shilton, Clemence, Joe Corrigan and Phil Parkes.
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Post by: Irish villain on December 18, 2012, 11:42:26 AM
It has probably been posted already but I was leafing through a book on Premier League era legends and the villa nomination was Bosnich.

When you think about it they made a compelling case. Bosnich was there playing a crucial role as we both won our only two major trophies since '82 and were quite regularly a top six side. He was widely acknowledged as one of the best 'keepers in the business while at villa and things didn't work out too well for him after he left.

I will look for the book again as I literally just picked it up for a few minutes but they did make some good arguments for Bosnich being our legend of the Premier League era. He did win two medals with us and was in top form for most of that period when we did well with him as our number one and were usually in or around the top six.
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Post by: Salsa Party Animal on January 01, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
I would say Bosnich then Rimmer. But the best goalkeeper play for Aston Villa is Friedel and Schimechel but they are past their prime when playing for Villa.
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Post by: rob_bridge on January 01, 2013, 02:03:36 PM
Bosnich on his day was unbelieveable.

That save v Coventry I have never see a  better one at Villa Park. And the one when Hughes smashed it in the League Cup Final which would have been an equaliser (IIRC) was fantastic.

Spink was incredibly consistent - many older than me say Rimmer was even better.

Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2013, 02:55:39 PM
Rimmer no longer qualifies as his last game was over 30 years ago. So Bosnich for me now.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on January 03, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
Surprised there's no Graham Mosely, Jimmy Cumbes or John Phillips in the poll ;)
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on January 04, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Surprised there's no Graham Mosely, Jimmy Cumbes or John Phillips in the poll ;)

Or John Dunn..
Title: Re: Best villa keeper in last 30 years
Post by: Steve kirk on January 06, 2013, 11:36:53 PM
I know it's just over 30 years now but I would just give it to Jimmy Rimmer  with bosnich 2nd and Spink 3rd
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 07, 2013, 07:21:10 PM
The convict and comfortably so.
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