Quote from: Border villan on September 10, 2021, 03:44:43 PM

Quote from: eamonn on September 10, 2021, 12:05:28 PM

So...back on topic....Wes and Nas - is there any far away, unexpected ancestry in our two leaders?

Dead certain that if Wes had any political ambitions in the USA then Irish heritage would be immediately uncovered.

Very true, Barack O'Bama traced his roots back to Moneygall in County Offaly. Don't think Trump did but his heritage was Scottish.

Heritage makes it seem further back than it was, Trump's mum was Scottish.

We've been trying to keep that a secret. 😡

According to The Guardian and a few other sources, the owners of nineteen Premier League clubs are not happy at all about the Newcastle takeover. I've been wondering since the Newcastle news what impact their takeover would have on NSWE?  Will they look to stick to their Grand Plan or will they adapt and change their approach and set new targets for the short, medium and long terms?   

Personally I've always thought they'd look to sell on a share of the Club once they had established Villa in the top flight again, so  I now find myself wondering whether the Newcastle takeover would speed up such a process?  Not only has Newcastle's future been altered by the arrival of the PIF into Premier League football, nineteen other clubs' futures are about the be transformed significantly, I feel.  As Gerard Houllier remarked about our unfit footballers, back in the day, at moments of reckoning like this, successful people recognise they have to adapt...or die.

I am struggling to see how this Newcastle takeover can work. Certainly to the levels of dominance city have anyway. When city got took over, there was literally only united & Chelsea that would be deemed unreachable, hence Lerner desire to chase champions league. Now there's about 8 clubs chasing it at least. Then there's the FFP thing, how on earth there going to generate their own funding by a successful brand I don't know because with the greatest of respect they're a big club in Newcastle. They can spend £500 million the next 6 windows but at some point with rules as they are they will have to claw it back. They last point and for me is a significant one that sort of ties in with the 8 clubs now going fir champions league is that Newcastle maybe worth £300 billion but they will still only sign players in the £60- £100 million price bracket and that's being extreme. That's nothing to owners such as ours, Everton so while they might be stinky rich clubs can afford to turn down the offers made for players. See how city have struggled to get kane, spurs and the rest can afford to say no.

I am struggling to see how this Newcastle takeover can work. Certainly to the levels of dominance city have anyway. When city got took over, there was literally only united & Chelsea that would be deemed unreachable, hence Lerner desire to chase champions league. Now there's about 8 clubs chasing it at least. Then there's the FFP thing, how on earth there going to generate their own funding by a successful brand I don't know because with the greatest of respect they're a big club in Newcastle. They can spend £500 million the next 6 windows but at some point with rules as they are they will have to claw it back. They last point and for me is a significant one that sort of ties in with the 8 clubs now going fir champions league is that Newcastle maybe worth £300 billion but they will still only sign players in the £60- £100 million price bracket and that's being extreme. That's nothing to owners such as ours, Everton so while they might be stinky rich clubs can afford to turn down the offers made for players. See how city have struggled to get kane, spurs and the rest can afford to say no.

Yep, FFP will be key.  If Newcastle's owners somehow circumvent it, however, there will be serious fallout.  Out of all the owners in the Premier League, I think the Newcastle takeover impacts Man City's the most and  I would imagine a lot of their short, medium and long-term planning will be dramatically re-assessed.

Absolutely Paddy.  Plus he did not "get" football or football fans, witness his outpouring of delight at receiving a letter from Alex Ferguson.  The double whammy that came very close to destroying us was Lerner's replacement by another, even more disconnected comparatively impoverished foolish football virgin Tony Cardboard Belt Xia.

Not sure the Big six will be crapping themselves
They already scout and buy the best talent available at whatever price
having another team bid, so what you still need a manager a backroom team a scouting network and a bunch of players that  gell together as world beaters.
They may be bidding for players we want in the future, so what
I think that our policy of attracting the best young players  will pay dividends
Another factor to be aware of but I can not see too many teams changing their strategy because of it.