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Author Topic: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread  (Read 10471 times)

Offline paul_e

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #225 on: September 17, 2019, 07:53:37 PM »
Heaton- Engels - Mings  dont think i would swap them for any other 3 in the prem they have settled in and look solid

Guilbert -  love this lad and he will only get better, we have a true Villa star on our hands here

Taylor - did ok but needs an up-grade , in the same way Elmo did ok but we needed someone who offered more and Guibert came in and we look better for it,
don't know if that's Target, if not it was a lot of money to pay for someone who's no improvement on Taylor

Grealish - Mcginn - heartbeat of the villa side, Jacks not reached his heights yet but he is still instrumental in everything we do going forward,
Mcginn is just Mcginn best iv'e seen since Des Bremner, no higher praise than that

Doug - Marvo -  play them both, i reckon Doug especially would be just as creative as one of our wide players

El Ghazi- Jota - Trez-  not overly impressed with any of them so far, all a bit samey in there performances, but its early days for Trez
 hopefully one will come through to be a more dangerous player in the wide areas

Wesley - Davis -   not worried about them if we get the shape right they will score the goals

i also agree with Dogtanians post,
enjoyed the game and we are a totally different team from the last time we played in this league

i was a bit disappointed in the sub, bringing on Elmo looked a bit like we were playing for a draw,
 then the fella got sent off
so we are playing against 10 men with both Elmo and Taylor in our 11,
 we needed to get Davis or at least Hourahane on straight away put pressure on them and give it a right go

This is about right for me, when we were talking about another striker i kept saying I wanted one that could play wide and cut in because I always thought the wingers looked to be where we might struggle. AEG can get better but he's not ready to start regularly at this level, Jota, for me, is a squad player and Trezeguet looks like he'll be great but he needs 6-12 months to settle in I suspect.

1 more with a little bit more to their game would be great for me and would make a big difference to us, either way AEG and Jota both wanted to take too many touches last night and were crowded out too easily.

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #226 on: September 17, 2019, 11:15:53 PM »
I no longer get excited when the opposition have a man sent off as we invariably seem to struggle to beat 10 men. Off the top of my head I can remember games against Boro, Ipswich, WBA as well as last night as games in the last couple of seasons that weíve failed to beat 10 men and yet I canít remember us winning such a game.

Edit - add the Fulham play off final to the list!
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 11:19:15 PM by Marlon From Bearwood »

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #227 on: September 17, 2019, 11:39:03 PM »
Forest were also down to 10 men when we were leading in the crazy 5-5.

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #228 on: September 17, 2019, 11:48:47 PM »
I hope Supporters don't start turning on AEG he's a great lad and can be class on his day, I just think TM went a bit OTT, England call up prob got to his head and Anwar has reacted. Hopefully that's the end of it , both great  lads
Well said; exactly my thoughts.

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #229 on: September 18, 2019, 12:17:23 AM »
I hope Supporters don't start turning on AEG he's a great lad and can be class on his day, I just think TM went a bit OTT, England call up prob got to his head and Anwar has reacted. Hopefully that's the end of it , both great  lads

England call up gone to his head? Bizarre

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #230 on: September 18, 2019, 12:30:53 AM »
Top teams are far more organized and would practice in training with 10 v 11 or one more attacker v a defending block. Think it depends on an overall difference like if it was a cup match playing a league 2 team and they went down to 10 players after 60 mins expected to create and win.
At this level and  in play off finals and semi finals , as well as Forest example , the teams are relatively equal so it doesn't always mean a great advantage other than the extra space if used effectively
If  the team with more players can use the possession and the extra player then it's beneficial.
But teams with 10 who would look to keep the ball , offer an attacking threat , organize in defence would have every chance of still making game competitive.
We saw that with west ham and like others have said in previous games when opposition went to 10.
Now it's a case of having a plan and good tactics to cope with playing against 10 and hopefully that's another aspect can develop with this team .
« Last Edit: September 18, 2019, 12:32:30 AM by Vill I An »

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #231 on: September 18, 2019, 03:33:42 AM »
We need mobile quick forwards. We donít have one at the club right now. Everything slows down and we get trapped at the edge of the box. Itís all very predictable. We fix the forward situation our defence will do the rest. Itís very good and getting better.

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #232 on: September 18, 2019, 08:08:54 AM »
This is where Deano needs to show some flexibility with formations.  I think Arsenal away is a good game to try something like a 4-2-2-1-1.  Hourihane in there for his set piece threat and get the big lads up, play Grealish higher up the field and look to win free kicks. Be compact and we can nick something there.

                  Heaton

      Fred - Engels - Mings - Taylor

          Marvelous - Douglas Luis

         McGinn - Hourihane

                 Grealish

                 Wesley
 
     

no width

Peter?

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #233 on: September 18, 2019, 08:10:46 AM »
Very much agree TV.  Up front is where we are not Premiership class. 

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #234 on: September 18, 2019, 08:26:18 AM »
I hope Supporters don't start turning on AEG he's a great lad and can be class on his day, I just think TM went a bit OTT, England call up prob got to his head and Anwar has reacted. Hopefully that's the end of it , both great  lads
Well said; exactly my thoughts.

I think you're both wrong in that case

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #235 on: September 18, 2019, 09:30:24 AM »
I hope Supporters don't start turning on AEG he's a great lad and can be class on his day, I just think TM went a bit OTT, England call up prob got to his head and Anwar has reacted. Hopefully that's the end of it , both great  lads

AEG's general unwillingness to track back demonstrates a poor teamwork ethic. The bollocking he received was completely justified and his response to it was petulant to the extreme. Very poor from him.
 

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #236 on: September 18, 2019, 09:37:09 AM »
It was unacceptable from AEG and wouldíve almost certainly caused us to lose the game had the Ref sent him off.

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #237 on: September 18, 2019, 09:48:30 AM »
Very much agree TV.  Up front is where we are not Premiership class.

Very much so when you consider Norwich have scored 6 goals in playing 3 of last seasonís top four. (Though lost 2 of those matches)

Villa have scored a total of 4 goals in 5 matches. And aren't showing the same attacking ambition at times as much as we've had some attacking play it's not seemingly very clinical

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #238 on: September 18, 2019, 10:04:11 AM »
we do need to become more clinical but the chances have to be created first
I really donít think itís a case of just going out and buying more strikers like we have done in the past to our cost at times

if we had signed Maupay I honestly donít think he would have made any difference in the games we have played so far

itís not just about buying a forward, itís not that easy
itís about the whole team working together and finding a way to play and score goals as a forward unit

having said that I think we will bring another centre forward in because we are light in that department but I donít think that will be the answer straight away, we need to use the ball more effectively in the final third and the goals will come

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Re: Aston Villa v West Ham post-match thread
« Reply #239 on: September 18, 2019, 10:08:17 AM »
we do need to become more clinical but the chances have to be created first
I really donít think itís a case of just going out and buying more strikers like we have done in the past to our cost at times

if we had signed Maupay I honestly donít think he would have made any difference in the games we have played so far

itís not just about buying a forward, itís not that easy
itís about the whole team working together and finding a way to play and score goals as a forward unit

having said that I think we will bring another centre forward in because we are light in that department but I donít think that will be the answer straight away, we need to use the ball more effectively in the final third and the goals will come

I get your general point John, but I think Maupay WOULD have made a lot of difference up front.  He could either play the Wesley role and be a lot more mobile, or replaced either El Ghazi or Jota, both of whom have been largely rubbish.