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Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #855 on: December 14, 2019, 09:33:55 PM »
Sadly, the position we are likely to find ourselves in when the transfer window opens is just the position you don't want to be in when looking to attract quality players.

However, I would say that two strikers are an absolute must - and preferably two who might gel together up top.  Ideally, one who is hungry to play and succeed at the highest level, and one who's been there and still has something to offer.  I'm not saying these are the ones we should go for or might get, but one like Ollie Watkins of Brentford (ok, I know) and one like Charlie Austin, Glenn Murray or Dannie Ings.  But a couple who between them might score 10-12 goals over the remaining fixtures and can even bring something out of Wesley.  As it is, with only Wesley as an option up front, we are truly stuffed.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #856 on: December 14, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »
You can recruit anyone you want when youíve got owners as rich as ours.
I think there is a little bit more to it than that.

Outside a few elite teams and world class players, I really donít think it matters that much. If theyíre in the right league and theyíre paid enough, good players will come and play for us.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #857 on: December 14, 2019, 10:04:41 PM »
Sheffield United came into the top flight with two good years of stability and momentum behind them. We came into the top flight with a few months of stability and momentum.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #858 on: December 14, 2019, 10:13:36 PM »
Wilder is also a much better manager than Smith.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #859 on: December 14, 2019, 10:15:08 PM »
Sheff Utd have spent 87p to go from midtable in division 3 to top 5 in the PL in just over 3 years.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #860 on: December 14, 2019, 10:16:53 PM »
Sheff Utd have spent 87p to go from midtable in division 3 to top 5 in the PL in just over 3 years.
Yes but they spent it well.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #861 on: December 14, 2019, 10:32:51 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?
Not easy to recruit Prem quality players when you are sitting just above the relegation zone.

We signed Darren Bent when we were bottom 3 weren't we? Also signed Carew when we were in bottom half in 2007. Robbie Keane aswell in 2012 when we were probably floating around 12th given it was the Mcleish year.

Three international quality forwards who helped improved us when they came in so that's the standard we should be looking at.

People are saying we're going to be challenging for europe in a year or two. We need to raise the bar in signings if we're really going to do that.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #862 on: December 14, 2019, 10:40:17 PM »
Bent was the one that came to mind.

Surely if we are looking to stay up this year then go crazy next year using the ridiculous resources at our disposal we aren't a hard sell.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #863 on: December 14, 2019, 11:39:26 PM »
The more I think the more I canít decide where the real issue is. Is Wesley shit or unsupported? Is smith letting the players down or are they letting him down? Maybe itís a bit of everything which is the really worrying thing.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #864 on: December 14, 2019, 11:48:36 PM »
Wes simply isn't good enough to start week in week out. I'm convinced at every other club he'd be a back up. He's simply not better than likes of Ings, Deeney, Pukki so wouldn't be a starter at those clubs.

He reminds me of Kozak. Big and gangly and can poach a few goals but overall not good enough to be a regular starter. Kozak started a few when Benteke picked up injuries but was largely a squad striker before his unfortunate injury and that's what Wesley should've been but we messed up the decision on Maupay and then didn't pursue a replacement.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #865 on: December 15, 2019, 12:50:56 AM »
Even when we were playing ok, Wes was still shit. He really is hopeless.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #866 on: December 15, 2019, 01:21:32 AM »
No.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #867 on: December 15, 2019, 01:40:35 AM »
After watching yesterday's game, a bit more than I was a few weeks ago.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #868 on: December 15, 2019, 01:53:10 AM »
All the teams at the bottom appear to be playing better than us, the team seems to have lost its spirit and togetherness, Jack may well be looking to next season already.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #869 on: December 15, 2019, 12:18:37 PM »
No

 


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