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Offline AV82EC

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2019, 10:06:14 AM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

Having better goal difference for me only counts on the last day if you finish 17th on the same points as the team in 18th. Other than that it may be good for some extra prize money further up the table.

Offline paul_e

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« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2019, 10:50:17 AM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

True, but they do need 1 more point than us, which is all I meant.  Aside from that a good goal difference when you're near the bottom is usually a sign that you're a better team than the table is showing.

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« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2019, 10:55:33 AM »
Yep, agreed.

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« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2019, 11:04:20 AM »
To echo other sentiments, a decent GD is good for morale. We're a third of the way through the season, and the bottom three are already running a deficit in excess of a goal a game. I expect us to be in credit by the time we've played everyone once, the points will come too.

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2019, 12:38:07 PM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

If you follow the logic though that as a result of our far superior goal difference, the teams around us need to get an extra point to finish above us, then it is worth an extra point.

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2019, 01:34:01 PM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

If you follow the logic though that as a result of our far superior goal difference, the teams around us need to get an extra point to finish above us, then it is worth an extra point.

Seconded

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2019, 01:53:11 PM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

If you follow the logic though that as a result of our far superior goal difference, the teams around us need to get an extra point to finish above us, then it is worth an extra point.

Good point.

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« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2019, 02:09:52 PM »
I think, as much as anything, it is a reflection of our performances and that fact that we have been pretty competitive in every game. We have only been beaten by more than one goal twice, which fares well in comparison with other sides around and below us who have been getting beaten more convincingly on a more regular basis.

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« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2019, 02:18:23 PM »
I think, as much as anything, it is a reflection of our performances and that fact that we have been pretty competitive in every game. We have only been beaten by more than one goal twice, which fares well in comparison with other sides around and below us who have been getting beaten more convincingly on a more regular basis.

and in a lot of those games we were level or ahead going into the last 10. We need to keep working on that and protect our points better but once we get that I think we can go into almost any game with confidence of being able to take the 3 points.

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2019, 02:26:20 PM »
To gain promotion from Championship or finish in Euro places then you need to average 2 pts per game - it was our target last year IIRC

To stay up I think 38 pts will do it so an average of 1 point per game is required.

We have currently after 13 games - 14 points so on target

If we can get 3 points from next 3 games that will maintain our average until we can play some teams where we should be favourites to win.

3 draws or 1 win and 2 losses will see us ok - personally I would "Love it" if the 3 points came from beating the red cnuts on Sunday more than the others.

Oh and just like Bruce and Smiths history - Smith has played Lampard 3 times as Managers and won convincingly each time  ;)

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2019, 02:37:20 PM »
It isn't, though. Because if a team finishes with one point more than us, they'll still finish above us. So our goal difference is worth anything from one-infinitieth of a point to one minus one-infinitieth of a point. But it isn't worth a whole point.

If you follow the logic though that as a result of our far superior goal difference, the teams around us need to get an extra point to finish above us, then it is worth an extra point.

Not really... because if they get the extra point, they'll finish above us. Therefore our goal difference wasn't worth as much as their extra point.

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« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2019, 02:46:26 PM »
So it's worth an extra point as they'll need an extra point (as in 1 more point than us) to finish above us.

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2019, 04:24:42 PM »
I will be happy when we reach forty points I think we will get between forty and forty seven points.

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2019, 04:41:44 PM »
To gain promotion from Championship or finish in Euro places then you need to average 2 pts per game - it was our target last year IIRC

To stay up I think 38 pts will do it so an average of 1 point per game is required.

We have currently after 13 games - 14 points so on target

If we can get 3 points from next 3 games that will maintain our average until we can play some teams where we should be favourites to win.

3 draws or 1 win and 2 losses will see us ok - personally I would "Love it" if the 3 points came from beating the red cnuts on Sunday more than the others.

Oh and just like Bruce and Smiths history - Smith has played Lampard 3 times as Managers and won convincingly each time  ;)

3 points from the next 3 games
Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester !

I’d take one point right now

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Re: 2019-20 Swingometer - SPECIAL FULHAM EDITION!
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2019, 04:53:55 PM »
I will be happy when we reach forty points I think we will get between forty and forty seven points.

You mean between 41 and 48, counting our "extra point"?

 


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