In Rugby isn’t the responsibility with the Ref ?, he determines what question is asked and when to call it. The complete abdication of responsibility by the ref is part of the problem.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on October 20, 2019, 07:52:04 PMIn Rugby isn’t the responsibility with the Ref ?, he determines what question is asked and when to call it. The complete abdication of responsibility by the ref is part of the problem.Isn't there an element of the TMO having a word in the refs ear when he's missed something serious?
In fairness. The handball rule has been changed so it’s any contact for an attacker (ala Mane) is handball but not the case for defenders. I don’t mind the Mane one and the lack of complaint shows the players didn’t either. As for the Sokratis one though.... if you don’t give that because it’s not clear and obvious (each to their own but I’d grudgingly accept) then you definitely can’t give the Wesley foul.
Quote from: Villatillidie25 on October 21, 2019, 08:07:35 AMIn fairness. The handball rule has been changed so it’s any contact for an attacker (ala Mane) is handball but not the case for defenders. I don’t mind the Mane one and the lack of complaint shows the players didn’t either. As for the Sokratis one though.... if you don’t give that because it’s not clear and obvious (each to their own but I’d grudgingly accept) then you definitely can’t give the Wesley foul. The appalling inconsistency is one of the problems. We've been told time and time again that it's a "high bar" for the off field VAR team to overrule the on field ref. So why was ours overruled, when it quite obviously wasn't a foul? And yet yesterday, a goal after a much more obvious foul wasn't chalked off. It's made to look even poorer by having the same two referees involved that bodged our game.
Quote from: Risso on October 21, 2019, 09:12:16 AMQuote from: Villatillidie25 on October 21, 2019, 08:07:35 AMIn fairness. The handball rule has been changed so it’s any contact for an attacker (ala Mane) is handball but not the case for defenders. I don’t mind the Mane one and the lack of complaint shows the players didn’t either. As for the Sokratis one though.... if you don’t give that because it’s not clear and obvious (each to their own but I’d grudgingly accept) then you definitely can’t give the Wesley foul. The appalling inconsistency is one of the problems. We've been told time and time again that it's a "high bar" for the off field VAR team to overrule the on field ref. So why was ours overruled, when it quite obviously wasn't a foul? And yet yesterday, a goal after a much more obvious foul wasn't chalked off. It's made to look even poorer by having the same two referees involved that bodged our game.It's incredibly poor at the moment. I'm still one of the few who believes in the principal of VAR, but it seems to be being implemented by morons.
I didn't realise until yesterday that there were monitors on the side of the pitch for ref's to look at. It's all a bit shambolic really isn't it?