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Offline four fornicholl

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #345 on: June 23, 2019, 07:44:35 PM »
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #346 on: June 23, 2019, 07:54:17 PM »
Knocking down a stand to increase capacity by 2,000 would be a waste of time.

I hope our owners have a bit more ambition than sirlordbaltimore.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #347 on: June 23, 2019, 07:56:55 PM »
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.

Offline four fornicholl

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #348 on: June 23, 2019, 08:06:07 PM »
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
What I was meaning was that if we become as successful as City, etc, with a city the size of Birmingham they will come.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #349 on: June 23, 2019, 08:08:25 PM »
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #350 on: June 23, 2019, 08:11:06 PM »
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.

Totally agree.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #351 on: June 23, 2019, 08:15:04 PM »
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.

So we should base our capacity on a scenario that might apply once a season?

We will average over 40,000 next season. We don't want to be turning people away, if kids can't get to games they'll just end up supporting teams that are on telly all the time.

The past is irrevelant. How many times would West Ham or Spurs have filled a 50,000 capacity stadium regularly in the last forty years?

We can, and will, fill a bigger stadium.

And there is absolutely no point in tearing down a stand at great expense to replace it with one that only increases our potential income by a tiny amount.

The North Stand is rubbish, aesthetically, anyway, and the Witton Lane Stand is not fit for purpose in terms of its facilities.

Get them rebuilt.

We won't start playing like a big club on the pitch if we don't start acting like one off (and around) it.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #352 on: June 23, 2019, 08:17:03 PM »
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.

Totally agree.

Me too. 

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« Reply #353 on: June 23, 2019, 08:17:24 PM »
One of the problems we have to fix is flat commercial income.

The fact we went years in a league which is a license to print money and failed to significantly grow it says all you need to know about this club in recent years

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #354 on: June 23, 2019, 08:46:35 PM »
Give people what they want and increase the size of the Holte.  Knock it down - two tiers is wrong and build a Dortmund like end - 20,000.   It would be like having the old Holte back but only seated.

Offline kieron

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #355 on: June 23, 2019, 08:47:39 PM »
We'll be having the same discussions about any potential redevelopment in 10 years time, just like we have been for the past 10 years.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #356 on: June 23, 2019, 08:50:34 PM »
Ten thousand empty seats on a regular basis would look ridiculous. Revamp the North Stand, allowing it to be the first phase of an all-round expansion should the demand be there, and see what transpires from there.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #357 on: June 23, 2019, 08:58:17 PM »
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #358 on: June 23, 2019, 09:05:31 PM »
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #359 on: June 23, 2019, 09:10:07 PM »
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

 


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