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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread  (Read 330860 times)

Offline algy

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2055 on: June 20, 2019, 08:05:21 AM »
not the Pope
I dunno, I hear he's very good on crosses

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2056 on: June 20, 2019, 08:24:14 AM »
Heaton is 33 so he may well be good in the short term but we will be back here again soon and it will probably cost us more over time

if Butland is good enough to be a premier league goalie for the next 5 years at the top of his game it would be best to get him in now even at 20m,
Youíve sorted one of the most important positions out for a good few years and probably saved a fortune in doing so

Obviously if you donít think Butland is good enough then I can see why people donít want him but to just say an older goalkeeper like Heaton to save a few pennies is false economy on and off the pitch

the goalkeeper is not a Ďhe can do a job for usí position, itís essential we have the best we can get

Offline Dazvillain

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2057 on: June 20, 2019, 08:29:13 AM »
I'd take Wanyama actually. Was a good player at Southampton and hasn't been too bad at Spurs although obviously not champions league quality. Only 27 so fits into our age profile aswell.

I agree we need a DM with a bit of presence and height. Just signing a small Ryan Woods type figure and our whole midfield would be skilfull but pretty small.

Wanyama's legs are gone, has had loads on injuries. Surprised we haven't been linked to Mooy yet.
Heíd be the new djemba dejemba for us !?

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2058 on: June 20, 2019, 08:30:04 AM »
Heaton is better than 'doing a job' for us. 33 seems old but for a goalkeeper isn't the end of the world, we'd probably get 3 years out of him and if a better/younger option comes along in the meantime he could spend the last year or 18 months of any such deal as our #2.

Given the other areas we need to strengthen, Butland is just too expensive for me at 20m. If he was obviously worth it, that would be a different story, but for me the jury's out. I would prefer Heaton or Pope with Steer pushing them for the shirt.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2059 on: June 20, 2019, 08:45:50 AM »
I don't rate Johnstone (never have) or Butland.
I'd be trying for either Heaton or Pope (not the Pope, but the goalkeeper Pope)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2060 on: June 20, 2019, 09:46:54 AM »
Heaton is better than 'doing a job' for us. 33 seems old but for a goalkeeper isn't the end of the world, we'd probably get 3 years out of him and if a better/younger option comes along in the meantime he could spend the last year or 18 months of any such deal as our #2.

Given the other areas we need to strengthen, Butland is just too expensive for me at 20m. If he was obviously worth it, that would be a different story, but for me the jury's out. I would prefer Heaton or Pope with Steer pushing them for the shirt.

Tend to agree, we signed Friedel when he was 37. He was solid and didn't miss a single prem game over three seasons.

Offline FatSam

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2061 on: June 20, 2019, 12:10:27 PM »
Heaton is not a free agent, he has a year left on his contract, whereas Butland has two. I donít think that Friedal can be used as a justification, he was fairly unique. Heaton has had extended periods of injury in recent years. We gave Given a four year contract when he was 35, and he only really played for the first season.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2062 on: June 20, 2019, 12:18:00 PM »
Heaton is better than 'doing a job' for us. 33 seems old but for a goalkeeper isn't the end of the world, we'd probably get 3 years out of him and if a better/younger option comes along in the meantime he could spend the last year or 18 months of any such deal as our #2.

Given the other areas we need to strengthen, Butland is just too expensive for me at 20m. If he was obviously worth it, that would be a different story, but for me the jury's out. I would prefer Heaton or Pope with Steer pushing them for the shirt.

Tend to agree, we signed Friedel when he was 37. He was solid and didn't miss a single prem game over three seasons.

Friedal rarely missed a game throughout his career. According to Wikipedia, in the last two seasons, Heaton has played 4 games and 19 games respectively. Hardly a fair comparison.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2063 on: June 20, 2019, 12:43:59 PM »
Heaton is better than 'doing a job' for us. 33 seems old but for a goalkeeper isn't the end of the world, we'd probably get 3 years out of him and if a better/younger option comes along in the meantime he could spend the last year or 18 months of any such deal as our #2.

Given the other areas we need to strengthen, Butland is just too expensive for me at 20m. If he was obviously worth it, that would be a different story, but for me the jury's out. I would prefer Heaton or Pope with Steer pushing them for the shirt.

Tend to agree, we signed Friedel when he was 37. He was solid and didn't miss a single prem game over three seasons.

Friedal rarely missed a game throughout his career. According to Wikipedia, in the last two seasons, Heaton has played 4 games and 19 games respectively. Hardly a fair comparison.

Friedel was the exception rather than the norm, too.

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2064 on: June 20, 2019, 01:02:54 PM »
None of which makes Butland a £20m player.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2065 on: June 20, 2019, 01:04:32 PM »
None of which makes Butland a £20m player.

No, the current market does that.

Offline Risso

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2066 on: June 20, 2019, 01:19:36 PM »
None of which makes Butland a £20m player.

I don't think the owners will scale back on other positions just because we spend £20m on a goalie. 

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2067 on: June 20, 2019, 01:20:22 PM »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2068 on: June 20, 2019, 01:29:50 PM »
I don't rate Johnstone (never have) or Butland.
I'd be trying for either Heaton or Pope (not the Pope, but the goalkeeper Pope)

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I had him down as a right winger

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #2069 on: June 20, 2019, 01:31:58 PM »
Wonder if Steer Signing a new contract means all the GK speculation has been press guff. Do seem to be a Lot of links to that position though. Out if those linked u would go with Butland fwiw