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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread  (Read 910272 times)

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1545 on: June 13, 2019, 03:01:09 PM »
Tattoo sleeve.  Severe side parting.  He's got Premier League written all over him.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1546 on: June 13, 2019, 03:02:34 PM »
If we can get Maupay in too, I'd be happy with that!

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1547 on: June 13, 2019, 03:07:25 PM »
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His agent has confirmed that an agreement was reached yesterday. Announcemenf expected later.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1548 on: June 13, 2019, 03:08:05 PM »
Isn't this the sort of signing that doesn't get a work permit?

He wouldn't automatically qualify as he doesn't meet the international criteria (he has yet to get a cap)...

It would then be decided on points. He would meet the points requirement purely based on being higher than the 75th percentile of transfer fess and, presumambly, higher than the 75th percentile of wages, too.

They aren't honour bound to honour the points system and can reject it if they wish, but it would be unlikely.

If they do reject it anyway, it would go into a secondary points criteria. He would qualify doubly having played a minimum of 30% of group games in the Champions League (he played in all six) and having played in a minimum of 30% of knockout games in the Europa League (he played in both legs before their elimination).

Even then they still could turn his application down. The points systems are both advisory and the board have the final decision. I would be very surprised though.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1549 on: June 13, 2019, 03:09:16 PM »
Isn't this the sort of signing that doesn't get a work permit?

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Wesley didn’t qualify for a work permit, but as he has played in the Champions League and the high fee will make sure that the Exception Panel gives him one.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1550 on: June 13, 2019, 03:14:10 PM »
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1551 on: June 13, 2019, 03:15:45 PM »
If this does happen, when was the last time we signed someone where there hadn't even been a sniff of a rumour beforehand?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1552 on: June 13, 2019, 03:17:43 PM »
He's a big boy.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1553 on: June 13, 2019, 03:18:52 PM »
Isn't this the sort of signing that doesn't get a work permit?

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Wesley didn’t qualify for a work permit, but as he has played in the Champions League and the high fee will make sure that the Exception Panel gives him one.

Here's the point system used, looks like he'll qualify easily (apologies for lack of formatting)

Part A Objective Criteria
Criteria
Points
The value of the Transfer Fee being paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of Qualifying Transfers1.
3 points
The value of the Transfer Fee being paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile (inclusive) of Qualifying Transfers1.
2 points
The Wages being paid to the player by the applicant club are above the 75th percentile of Qualifying Wages.
3 points
The Wages being paid to the player by the applicant club are between the 50th and 75th percentile (inclusive) of Qualifying Wages.
2 points
The player’s current club is in a Top League and the player has played in 30% or more of the Available Minutes.
1 point
The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a Continental Competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in 30% or more of the Available Minutes.
1 point
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Miscellaneous
Appendix 1: Exceptions Panel Procedures
Part B Objective Criteria
 Criteria
 Points
 The value of the Transfer Fee being paid for the player is within 20% of the 50th percentile of Qualifying Transfers1.
  1 point
 Players2 for whom no transfer fee is payable who have been ascribed a virtual transfer value (on such basis and in such amount as the Exceptions Panel deems to be appropriate in its absolute discretion) which exceeds the value which is 20% below the 50th percentile of Qualifying Transfers
 1 point
 The Wages being paid to the player by the applicant club are within 20% of the 50th percentile of Qualifying Wages.
  1 point
 The player’s current club is in a Secondary League and the player has played in at least 30% of the Available Minutes.
   1 point
 The player’s current club has played in the final qualification rounds of a Continental Competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the Available Minutes.
  1 point
 The applicant club is able to show3 that the player has participated in the Secondary Percentage4 of senior Competitive International Matches5 played by that player’s National Association during the Reference Period.
OR
The player’s National Association was a semi-finalist in the Asian Cup or African Cup of Nations in the immediately preceding 12 months of the date of the application for a GBE.
If the National Association is ranked outside the top 60 in the FIFA Aggregated World Rankings at the time of the application, the club must be able to show3 that the player participated in 75% or more4 of the Competitive International Matches5 played by the National Association during the Reference Period.
  1 point
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Notes:
1 No points will be awarded for players for whom no transfer fee is payable at the time an application for a GBE is made for that player. This includes (but is not limited to) players transferring on a free transfer and players for whom a transfer fee has previously been paid but that player has been sent out on loan and is returning to their parent club.
2 Players registering with a club on loan or for whom a transfer has previously been completed (regardless of whether a transfer fee was paid or not) but that player has been sent out on loan and is returning to their parent club cannot be ascribed a virtual transfer fee.

  Appendix 1: Exceptions Panel Procedures
3 The applicant club must provide written confirmation setting out all matches (including Competitive International Matches, friendlies and any other international matches that the player was involved in) in which the player:
• tookpart;
• was Unavailable for Selection; and
• did not take part but was not Unavailable for Selection.
An applicant club should obtain such confirmation from the player’s National Association. If the relevant National Association is not able to confirm this, this fact should be confirmed by the applicant club to The FA. At this stage, The FA will seek to independently verify this information through its own sources. The responsibility lies with the applicant club to provide this information where it is able to do so. A decision will not be made until this process has been completed and any relevant supporting evidence is submitted.
4 In calculating the Secondary Percentage (or other relevant percentage), any Competitive International Matches for which the player was Unavailable for Selection are to be excluded.
5 If fewer than 30% of a National Association’s matches during the Reference Period are Competitive International Matches, friendly matches will be included in the calculation.
4. SUBJECTIVE REVIEW
Where a player scores 4 points or more by reference to the Part A objective criteria; or following any consideration of a club’s application under the Part B objective criteria (regardless of points scored), the Exceptions Panel will then conduct a subjective review of the information presented by the club and any other information which it considers to be relevant in its absolute discretion in respect of the player in order to determine whether the player is of sufficient quality to justify it recommending that a GBE be awarded. As has been set out above at paragraph 2.2, clubs should ensure that all evidence that they want to be considered in respect of the player is submitted in writing ahead of the determination by the Exceptions Panel.
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Appendix 1: Exceptions Panel Procedures
Examples of matters which the Exceptions Panel may take into account when conducting the subjective review include but are not limited to:
• If applicable, the fact that the player satisfies or partially satisfies some of the automatic criteria for a Governing Body Endorsement (as set out under 2.1 (Criteria under which a Governing Body Endorsement will automatically be granted)), as well as the extent to which the player exceeds or falls short of these criteria.
• The reasons why the automatic criteria (as set out under paragraph 2.1 (Criteria under which a Governing Body Endorsement will automatically be granted) above) were not met.
• Against which objective criteria (whether Part A or Part B objective criteria) points have been scored and how many points have been scored.
• The extent to which the player exceeds either the Part A or Part B objective criteria that he has met or falls short of either the Part A or Part B objective criteria he does not meet.
5. OUTCOME
If a player scores 4 points or more by reference to the Part A objective criteria or a Cumulative Total Score of 5 points of more under the Part A and Part B objective criteria, the Exceptions Panel may grant a GBE, but is under no obligation to do so. The Panel is entitled to consider, as part of its subjective review, any other circumstances or facts which it deems to be relevant in its absolute discretion in deciding whether to recommend that a GBE is awarded.
If a player scores fewer than 4 points by reference to the Part A objective criteria and a Cumulative Total Score of fewer than 5 points under the Part A and Part B objective criteria, the Exceptions Panel is guided to refuse a GBE unless it is satisfied, following its subjective review, that the player is internationally established at the highest level and that his employment will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in England . In determining this, the Exceptions Panel may consider any other circumstances or facts which it deems to be relevant in its absolute discretion in deciding whether to recommend that a GBE is awarded.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1554 on: June 13, 2019, 03:19:40 PM »
Obligatory youtube video


I'd be worried he's not mobile enough. We're are going to miss the Tammy sliding in toe pokes. But what do I know.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1555 on: June 13, 2019, 03:20:51 PM »
If this does happen, when was the last time we signed someone where there hadn't even been a sniff of a rumour beforehand?

Guilbert?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1556 on: June 13, 2019, 03:26:08 PM »
I'm liking the way the club are conducting their business. Media speculation linking us to numerous names as usual and then out of the blue a new signing that no-one had a sniff of (providing this turns out to be true).

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1557 on: June 13, 2019, 03:40:56 PM »
You tube montage shows him scoring lots from inside the six yard box , rebounds etc, and a few longish shots. Like the look of him from that, much as Youtube is obviously a highlight reel
Remember when Helenius looked good on youtube.
He was pants.

The only thing from memory he did of note was have them pulled down.

Is Belgium the new Holland? 

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1558 on: June 13, 2019, 03:43:03 PM »
"Villareport" on Twitter seems to be getting a lot of info and reckons negotiations were concluded yesterday. 25 million euros is being quoted.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1559 on: June 13, 2019, 03:45:03 PM »
"Villareport" on Twitter seems to be getting a lot of info and reckons negotiations were concluded yesterday. 25 million euros is being quoted.

Getting it from the same places we were quoting it from. In fairness they don't claim otherwise as they credit where the links came from.

 


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