collapse collapse

Please donate to help keep this site going.

The Fanzine

Heroes & Villains Fanzine

Get your fix of all things Claret & Blue by subscribing to the online version!

* H&V Best Of

Recent Posts

Follow us on...

Author Topic: The International Cricket Thread 2019  (Read 116746 times)

Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 38248
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 09.02.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #945 on: June 30, 2019, 06:35:04 PM »
This is a top performance, well done England massive effort.

Offline tomd2103

  • Member
  • Posts: 10939
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #946 on: June 30, 2019, 06:38:04 PM »
Yep.  Surely the template we should use going forward - bat first and put score board pressure on. 
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 07:16:09 PM by tomd2103 »

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 19819
  • Age: 39
  • Location: Back from the frozen North
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #947 on: June 30, 2019, 06:40:34 PM »
pretty comfortable win in the end, I think Woakes getting Rohit Sharma when he did was the key because whilst they have players who can score quickly coming in afterwards but they aren't capable of doing that for the 15-20 overs that were needed, Pandya was always going to hit a fielder for example, it's just what he does. Dhoni really has lost it, his performance in the last 6-7 overs was truly ridiculous.

Offline Villa Lew

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1657
  • GM : 16.08.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #948 on: June 30, 2019, 06:48:08 PM »
Superb bowling from England, but that was pathetic from India at the end, once Pandya was out they just threw the towel in, not that I'm complaining. Confident now England will make the semis.

Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 38248
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 09.02.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #949 on: June 30, 2019, 08:46:06 PM »
Dhoniís performance was weird, I didnít get what his goal was.

Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 38248
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 09.02.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #950 on: June 30, 2019, 09:29:54 PM »
Roy is so important to us. Well done to Bairstow thatís we need from him.


Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 38248
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 09.02.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #951 on: June 30, 2019, 09:49:29 PM »
Plunkett has to start for me as well. The other spot is between Wood and Mo.

Offline ADVILLAFAN

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9681
  • Location: Yardley/Shirley
  • GM : 17.01.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #952 on: June 30, 2019, 10:07:52 PM »
Dhoniís performance was weird, I didnít get what his goal was.

Maybe he doesn't like Pakistan

Offline Risso

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 53982
  • Location: Northants
  • GM : 13.02.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #953 on: July 01, 2019, 12:03:47 AM »
Plunkett has to start for me as well. The other spot is between Wood and Mo.

Wood bowled quite well today without taking a wicket, but then if you don't pick Moeen you lose the ability to throw your wicket away trying to swat a ball away for 6 when you're on 8.

Offline tomd2103

  • Member
  • Posts: 10939
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #954 on: July 01, 2019, 02:56:22 AM »
Plunkett has to start for me as well. The other spot is between Wood and Mo.

Can't see us straying from that line up today now Paul.  Really interesting to hear Brendon McCullum's insights on the Debate show earlier.  Said he was a fan of Plunkett, but felt he had always been shifted around and asked to carry out different roles.  He said the current role he has in the side suits him perfectly as he tends to bowl when the fielding restrictions are over. 

His thoughts on Rashid were interesting as well.  After Bob Willis had slagged Rashid off, he said that he would always have a leg spinner who can turn the ball both ways in the side, mainly to bowl at the lower order.  He was saying that a leg spinner is a key part of an attacking side.  Made Bob look a bit foolish to be honest.

Offline Villan For Life

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11970
  • Location: Exiled on Main Street
  • GM : 31.07.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #955 on: July 01, 2019, 09:02:04 AM »
Plunkett has to start for me as well. The other spot is between Wood and Mo.

Can't see us straying from that line up today now Paul.  Really interesting to hear Brendon McCullum's insights on the Debate show earlier.  Said he was a fan of Plunkett, but felt he had always been shifted around and asked to carry out different roles.  He said the current role he has in the side suits him perfectly as he tends to bowl when the fielding restrictions are over. 

His thoughts on Rashid were interesting as well.  After Bob Willis had slagged Rashid off, he said that he would always have a leg spinner who can turn the ball both ways in the side, mainly to bowl at the lower order.  He was saying that a leg spinner is a key part of an attacking side.  Made Bob look a bit foolish to be honest.

Willis is a poor judge of modern cricket. The game is completely different now to the version that he played. Heís stuck in his own era.

Online olaftab

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 28273
  • Location: Castle Bromwich
  • GM : 22.04.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #956 on: July 01, 2019, 12:26:24 PM »
Leave our Bob alone. We need Victor Meldrew in the punditry line up.

Online olaftab

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 28273
  • Location: Castle Bromwich
  • GM : 22.04.2020
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #957 on: July 01, 2019, 12:30:42 PM »
Those who are arguing about no changes to the bowling line don't forget India scored 306 runs yesterday losing only 5 wickets and Dhoni was playing like grandad in the garden. So to win the World Cup England must keep sharpening the pencil.

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 19819
  • Age: 39
  • Location: Back from the frozen North
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #958 on: July 01, 2019, 01:52:04 PM »
Woakes and Archer work superbly at the beginning and end of the innings and Plunkett, for all his faults, is a reliable option in the middle overs, particularly bowling opposite Rashid. That leaves Stokes and Root as back up options and room for a 5th bowler. In most matches in England that should be Wood but if the pitch is offering more spin then Ali gives us a bit more control, again during the middle overs. What was noticeable yesterday is that India targeted the quicker deliveries in those overs, which saw Wood and Stokes get punished.

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 19819
  • Age: 39
  • Location: Back from the frozen North
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #959 on: July 01, 2019, 06:37:04 PM »
I beat him to it - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48820922 - Vaughan talking about how important Roy is to this England team.

On now is West Indies vs Sri Lanka. SL set a good target of 339 but WI are doing themselves no favours in the chase with 3 run outs. The 3rd in particular was awful, non-striker called through a definite single and ran whilst the batsman just stood there and was about a third of the way there by the time his partner got in, no idea why he was on his heels in such a big chase, it was on a par with Dhoni's bizarre innings yesterday.