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Offline simboy

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #855 on: June 26, 2019, 06:25:24 AM »
I think that the idea of winning the toss and batting second after losing against Sri Lanka was a poor decision by Morgan. The old adage of win the toss, think about bowling, have a chat with the senior bowler offering them the choice of ends, sort out the field in your own mind for the first three overs, get the bowling boots on and then choose to bat holds fast here.

From what i have read and heard the pitches have been prepared slightly differently under instruction from the ICC than if the EWCB were ordering the preparation. They are apparently drier, therefore going to deteriorate more at the back end of a game. Chasing totals therefore becomes more difficult without the scoreboard pressure and yesterday possibly showed that.

I appreciate that had Woakes had a little more luck, the Aussies could have been 30/3 but in the end Warner and Finch gritted it out and built a platform. The total of 289 put extra pressure on the top order [highest total chased at Lords in a World Cup etc etc]. Extra pressure on an already slightly fragile side which could have been avoided.

Of course we may still have lost and ... Vince is mince


 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #856 on: June 26, 2019, 12:27:42 PM »
Not sure I agree we should have batted first yesterday.

We had good conditions to bowl in and we messed it up big time. If we'd have bowled adequately the Aussies would have been at least a couple of wickets down by the end of the powerplay.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #857 on: June 26, 2019, 12:27:49 PM »
Looks like NZ are going to get done here, that wouldnít be ideal.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #858 on: June 26, 2019, 12:52:37 PM »
England definitely in a spot of bother, looks like Pakistan will beat NZ.

Pray for Roy to be back, as Vince is a walking wicket.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #859 on: June 26, 2019, 04:22:30 PM »
Confidence can be a fragile thing in sport but I honestly think Roy coming back will see a massive turn-around, we've become so reliant on putting teams on the backfoot in the first 10 that we look like we don't know what to do if that doesn't happen.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #860 on: June 26, 2019, 05:15:44 PM »
I tell you what this pitch absolutely terrifies me when I consider us playing India.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #861 on: June 26, 2019, 06:48:38 PM »
Pakistan showing how you manage a run chase.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #862 on: June 26, 2019, 06:54:09 PM »
I tell you what this pitch absolutely terrifies me when I consider us playing India.

Gonna be a red hot atmosphere too.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #863 on: June 26, 2019, 06:56:48 PM »
It will be. Iíve seen various interviews with England players saying they wonít take a backward step, theyíre still a good side and the last two games donít change that. Ok, then go out and prove it in the remaining games, the talk means nothing.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #864 on: June 26, 2019, 07:20:02 PM »
That's right, really need to step up and finally perform. If we have to chase a big score,  it's gonna be a long afternoon.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #865 on: June 26, 2019, 08:00:37 PM »
Spent another day at Edgbaston today. A terrific game of cricket and fully agree with those of you worried about Sunday. New Zealand spinners were turning it sideways. Pakistan had the patiences and skill and a reasonable low score to take their time and win the game. England donít play spin anywhere near as well as Pakistan.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #866 on: June 27, 2019, 11:21:30 AM »
It will be. Iíve seen various interviews with England players saying they wonít take a backward step, theyíre still a good side and the last two games donít change that. Ok, then go out and prove it in the remaining games, the talk means nothing.

Paul Farbrace was on The Debate after the Australia game and was saying the same.  Didn't criticise any of the players and was saying things like "if it had gone ten more yards it would have been six and not caught on the boundary". 

The fact is that we have poorly managed two achievable run chases because we seem unable to adapt to circumstances and conditions.     

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #867 on: June 27, 2019, 11:38:59 AM »
It will be. Iíve seen various interviews with England players saying they wonít take a backward step, theyíre still a good side and the last two games donít change that. Ok, then go out and prove it in the remaining games, the talk means nothing.

Paul Farbrace was on The Debate after the Australia game and was saying the same.  Didn't criticise any of the players and was saying things like "if it had gone ten more yards it would have been six and not caught on the boundary". 

The fact is that we have poorly managed two achievable run chases because we seem unable to adapt to circumstances and conditions.     

In terms of Buttler I agree with what he said, there really wasn't much wrong with him taking the shot on and he only got it slightly wrong. The mistakes came earlier, with Morgan and Bairstow playing braindead shots and Vince showing, yet again, that he's not good enough (despite looking like he should be).

That said I'm glad that a coach isn't coming out and criticising the players in public, address it in private, give players things to work on and consider and then present a "we're still no1 in the world" front in public.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #868 on: June 27, 2019, 05:28:03 PM »
India are going like a stream train. Time for someone to dampen their fire. Come on England...

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #869 on: June 27, 2019, 05:36:18 PM »
Iím pretty worried about the India game, our level is going to have to shoot up.

On Farbrace I find him a bit tedious as a pundit, particularly in respect of England. Unsurprisingly since heís only just left the set up he doesnít say anything remotely critical. Itís all a bit meh and on the company line.