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Author Topic: The International Cricket Thread 2019  (Read 114109 times)

Offline Newby

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #840 on: June 25, 2019, 06:00:05 PM »
Too many nice little cameos from England.  Poor shot selection and fantastic fielding from the cheats.  Got to do it the hard way now and beat India and hope that New Zealand don't choke against Pakistan.  Today might have been offset a little had Villa signed some bugger!!

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #841 on: June 25, 2019, 06:06:23 PM »
Its felt inevitable since we failed to chase the easy target against Sri Lanka. We should have won a minimum of 5 out of our first 6 games.

Now we've put tons of pressure on ourselves, and I just can't see enough players standing up to be counted in the last two games.


Offline tomd2103

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #842 on: June 25, 2019, 06:18:06 PM »
Gutless performance Stokes aside.

Bowled really poorly for the first half of their innings, and in turn showed the Aussies precisely the length to bowl.

Then poor shots from the middle order when we couldn't afford to lose a wicket.

Feel this slump is irreversable now. We have been paralysed by the pressure and its only going to get worse

Had a nagging feeling for months that we might have peaked a bit too early for the World Cup and that the tournament would see us fade away.  We are looking a bit shot at this point.

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #843 on: June 25, 2019, 06:28:39 PM »
Dross. Weíve scored sub 230 in two games.

Pathetic batting with the exception of Stokes (again). Least itís simple now, win or youíre gone.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #844 on: June 25, 2019, 06:35:08 PM »
Looks like we'll go out with a whimper and the Aussies will win the sodding thing. Twas ever thus.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #845 on: June 25, 2019, 06:37:24 PM »
If we donít make the semiís this would be one of Englandís poorest efforts at a World Cup. Given our position and the set up of the tournament it would be a shocking effort.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #846 on: June 25, 2019, 06:42:23 PM »
Those other players should look at Stokes. He is standing up under pressure and the others arenít.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #847 on: June 25, 2019, 06:54:32 PM »
I think losing Roy and not having Hales as a backup option has fucked us a lot more than might have been expected. Roy going out strong from the start and getting us a solid start has played a huge part in us being the team we've seen for the last couple of years. Not having that explosive start has totally changed the team dynamic and we look lost. I can take the Pakistan defeat, that was the sort of game that will happen sometimes but the last 2 games we've been awful with the bat with key batsmen playing stupid shots when they just needed to be sensible, the Bairstow one today was a particularly awful shot, trying to hit one that far outside off for a leg side 6 was just rank decision making given the match situation. Morgan was really disappointing as well, you'd expect better from him.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #848 on: June 25, 2019, 07:38:45 PM »
I agree I was just thinking Hales missing with Vince as the replacement has created a massive whole.

Iím not overly keen on Bairstowís mentality, heís too frenetic when pressure comes on. The fact he went out with two left handed gloves against Sri Lanka is indicative of that. Once he loses clarity of thought heís pretty poor.

Iíll be stunned if we turn this round now, this has all the hallmarks of previous World Cup disasters.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #849 on: June 25, 2019, 09:41:31 PM »
Key match tomorrow. NZ need to beat Pakistan and it will help England and confirm their own qualification.
Bangla Desh will not win their remaining two games so they will finish on 8 points.
Sri Lanka will win two and lose 1 finishing on 10 points. If England do not win both matches they could still go through as  NRR is good. 
So I think England will qualify for the semi by beating either India or New Zealand.

England   India (30 June) New Zealand (3 July)

Bangladesh   India (2 July) Pakistan (5 July)   

Sri Lanka     South Africa (28 June) West Indies (1 July) India (6 July)

Pakistan    New Zealand (26 June)   Afghanistan (29 June) Bangladesh (5 July)

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #850 on: June 25, 2019, 09:43:33 PM »
FYI from CRICINFO:
League Stage
In the event of teams finishing on equal points
* The team with the most wins in the League Stage will be placed in the higher position.
* If there are teams with equal points and equal wins in the League Stage then in such case the teams will be ordered according to their net run rate in the League Stage matches.
* If there are teams that are still equal, they will be ordered according to the result(s) of the head to head match(es) played between them (points, then if still equal, net run rate in those matches).
* If the above does not resolve the League Stage ordering and there are teams that are still equal, the teams will be ordered as per their League Stage seedings.
* If all matches in the League Stage produce no results the teams will be ordered as per their League Stage seedings and the top 4 seeded teams will progress to Semi-Finals.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #851 on: June 25, 2019, 10:14:50 PM »
Vince is rubbish. Nowhere near the quality of Roy and Hales. Why do they keep picking him? He'll never be good enough.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #852 on: June 26, 2019, 01:12:11 AM »
Absolute Hollywood player. A couple of flashy cover drives for the cameras and nicks off. Hasnít adapted his game or shot selection.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #853 on: June 26, 2019, 01:34:02 AM »
I think losing Roy and not having Hales as a backup option has fucked us a lot more than might have been expected. Roy going out strong from the start and getting us a solid start has played a huge part in us being the team we've seen for the last couple of years. Not having that explosive start has totally changed the team dynamic and we look lost. I can take the Pakistan defeat, that was the sort of game that will happen sometimes but the last 2 games we've been awful with the bat with key batsmen playing stupid shots when they just needed to be sensible, the Bairstow one today was a particularly awful shot, trying to hit one that far outside off for a leg side 6 was just rank decision making given the match situation. Morgan was really disappointing as well, you'd expect better from him.

Agree Paul and it has given our batting order a sense of vulnerability, which is an uncomfortable feeling no matter what level of cricket you are playing at. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #854 on: June 26, 2019, 02:54:09 AM »
The bottom line is their confidence looks gone which is what got them through games in the last 12 months. I think they're a busted flush now.