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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #390 on: May 11, 2019, 07:07:33 PM »
Yes think heís probably played himself into the World Cup 15 today.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #391 on: May 11, 2019, 07:20:14 PM »
They got much closer to out target than I though they would so a good game in the end.

I think they need to rethink the different ball at each end rule, itís giving the batsmen too much of an advantage.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #392 on: May 11, 2019, 07:50:39 PM »
We bowled really poorly in the first 25-30 overs, as a unit. A few decent overs from Ali and Rashid but all of the quicks were poor.


I wonder if part of that was knowing there was a big total on the board so just trying to play safe.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #393 on: May 12, 2019, 12:17:57 AM »
They got much closer to out target than I though they would so a good game in the end.

I think they need to rethink the different ball at each end rule, itís giving the batsmen too much of an advantage.

Agree in principal, but one of the issues with the ball in one dayers, was that teams would deliberately do all they could to soften it. By the 30th over or so it was generally closer to a tennis ball and harder to hit.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #394 on: May 12, 2019, 07:30:59 AM »
They got much closer to out target than I though they would so a good game in the end.

I think they need to rethink the different ball at each end rule, itís giving the batsmen too much of an advantage.

Agree in principal, but one of the issues with the ball in one dayers, was that teams would deliberately do all they could to soften it. By the 30th over or so it was generally closer to a tennis ball and harder to hit.

Thatís a form of ball tampering then isnít it? Keep one ball and let the umpire inspect it after every over. Cricket has the advantage that most, if not all, umpires have played the game at the highest level so they know all of the tricks that fielding sides use.

The white ball game is dominated by big hitters. Itís marvellous to see, especially when itís one of your players flaying the ball to all parts, but something has to be done to redress the balance between bat and ball.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #395 on: May 12, 2019, 10:34:18 AM »
I like the 2 balls rule. The one I'd change is leg side wides.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #396 on: May 12, 2019, 03:35:37 PM »
They got much closer to out target than I though they would so a good game in the end.

I think they need to rethink the different ball at each end rule, itís giving the batsmen too much of an advantage.

Agree in principal, but one of the issues with the ball in one dayers, was that teams would deliberately do all they could to soften it. By the 30th over or so it was generally closer to a tennis ball and harder to hit.

Thatís a form of ball tampering then isnít it? Keep one ball and let the umpire inspect it after every over. Cricket has the advantage that most, if not all, umpires have played the game at the highest level so they know all of the tricks that fielding sides use.

The white ball game is dominated by big hitters. Itís marvellous to see, especially when itís one of your players flaying the ball to all parts, but something has to be done to redress the balance between bat and ball.

I think there's better options to do something about it.

Limit bat size/weight. The sweetspots are just massive on today's bats. Many misshits go for 6.

Increase boundary size and go back to allowing 5 fielders outside the circle from the 15th over.

Have a slightly more pronounced seam on the ball(s). That way having 2 new balls could be an advantage to a bowling attack under certain conditions.

The game did get to a stage where not a lot happened during the middle overs and it was pretty boring for the spectator.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #397 on: May 12, 2019, 04:54:13 PM »
I agree with most of that as well but I'm not sure limits on bats are a good idea.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #398 on: May 12, 2019, 04:57:15 PM »
I agree with most of that as well but I'm not sure limits on bats are a good idea.

The sweetspots being so big would be the issue I have with the bats. Most international batsmen still clear the ropes when they miss the middle of the bat these days.


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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #399 on: May 12, 2019, 05:02:31 PM »
I like the 2 balls rule. The one I'd change is leg side wides.

I'd agree with that.

The principle of a wide is a "delivery the batsman cannot play a proper cricket shot too".

Unless its down the leg side by a margin, that isn't true of a leg side delivery.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #400 on: May 12, 2019, 05:18:14 PM »
I like the 2 balls rule. The one I'd change is leg side wides.

I'd agree with that.

The principle of a wide is a "delivery the batsman cannot play a proper cricket shot too".

Unless its down the leg side by a margin, that isn't true of a leg side delivery.

I think the main problem is that it frees the batsman to move around in his crease but means the bowler can't do the same. Something that's 12-18inches behind the batsman is fine, happy with those as wides, just like in the test game, but the ones that miss the batsman by an inch drive me mad.

Back on the bats, my worry is that it'd be putting the genie back in the bottle at this point, I'd rather see changes in other areas which reduce the impact of the bats.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #401 on: May 12, 2019, 09:03:14 PM »
I think the two ball rule is a problem myself. I think reverse swing would add an extra dimension to the game.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #402 on: May 12, 2019, 09:52:26 PM »
The issue there is that white balls go soft much quicker than red balls and in a lot of conditions they'd be falling to bits but you'd only get reverse swing sometimes.

I'm just not sure the benefit outweighs the cost.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #403 on: May 13, 2019, 07:25:28 PM »
Sounds like Archer wonít play tomorrow. I reckon that suggests theyíve already made the decision heís in the squad and the others are fighting it out.

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« Reply #404 on: May 13, 2019, 08:22:16 PM »
Sounds like Archer wonít play tomorrow. I reckon that suggests theyíve already made the decision heís in the squad and the others are fighting it out.

Be absolutely staggered if he's not in the squad. I'd have had him in the provisional 1

Hopefully he will get the last couple of ODI's at least to help acclimatise.