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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #330 on: April 12, 2019, 10:22:08 PM »
Great to see Hameed get a hundred. Hopefully he can put his horror show of last year behind him.

I think his horror show goes a bit back further than that, this is his first ton since 2016.

Lancashire were on the verge of releasing him last year so heís repaying their faith. If he has a good summer then maybe he will get a place on a Lions tour. Heís a long way from test selection just yet.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #331 on: April 12, 2019, 10:26:34 PM »
Oh yes of course, Iím just pleased heís made a good start.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #332 on: April 16, 2019, 03:09:27 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #333 on: April 16, 2019, 03:18:54 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

Iíd have no hesitation in picking him.

The feedback from England players currently playing in the IPL is that heís a special talent and you should select the best players that are available to you. Team spirit doesnít win games or tournaments, picking the best players does.

We were in a similar position ahead of the 2005 Ashes series with the media calling for Pietersen to be selected. He was selected and his innings in the 5th test at the Oval meant that we regained the Ashes for the first time in years. Ultimately Pietersen became a toxic presence in the dressing room but at the time he was the right selection.

We will know tomorrow if Archer gets the gig or not, I think the squad is announced on Wednesday.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #334 on: April 16, 2019, 04:57:10 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

Iíd have no hesitation in picking him.

The feedback from England players currently playing in the IPL is that heís a special talent and you should select the best players that are available to you. Team spirit doesnít win games or tournaments, picking the best players does.

We were in a similar position ahead of the 2005 Ashes series with the media calling for Pietersen to be selected. He was selected and his innings in the 5th test at the Oval meant that we regained the Ashes for the first time in years. Ultimately Pietersen became a toxic presence in the dressing room but at the time he was the right selection.

We will know tomorrow if Archer gets the gig or not, I think the squad is announced on Wednesday.

The only real ingredient missing in the 50 over side at the moment is that 'x-factor' quick bowler.  Not sure whether Archer is that just yet and whether this World Cup might have come just a bit too soon for him.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #335 on: April 16, 2019, 04:59:07 PM »
Woakes (and previously David Willey and Mark Wood) has let himself down there saying it wouldn't be morally fair to pick Archer.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #336 on: April 16, 2019, 05:23:52 PM »
Woakes (and previously David Willey and Mark Wood) has let himself down there saying it wouldn't be morally fair to pick Archer.

Woakes has tweeted to say that his comments have been taken out of context to make good copy.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #337 on: April 16, 2019, 05:29:29 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

Iíd have no hesitation in picking him.

The feedback from England players currently playing in the IPL is that heís a special talent and you should select the best players that are available to you. Team spirit doesnít win games or tournaments, picking the best players does.

We were in a similar position ahead of the 2005 Ashes series with the media calling for Pietersen to be selected. He was selected and his innings in the 5th test at the Oval meant that we regained the Ashes for the first time in years. Ultimately Pietersen became a toxic presence in the dressing room but at the time he was the right selection.

We will know tomorrow if Archer gets the gig or not, I think the squad is announced on Wednesday.

The only real ingredient missing in the 50 over side at the moment is that 'x-factor' quick bowler.  Not sure whether Archer is that just yet and whether this World Cup might have come just a bit too soon for him.
Why I asked the question I guess - the Pietersen 2005 comparison is a good one but reality is Archer has only played 14 list A games and taken 21 wickets at 30. Hardly ripping up trees - but I do accept his T20 performances have been impressive. Sure he will get the Pakistan ODIís to state his case.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #338 on: April 16, 2019, 05:32:39 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

Iíd have no hesitation in picking him.

The feedback from England players currently playing in the IPL is that heís a special talent and you should select the best players that are available to you. Team spirit doesnít win games or tournaments, picking the best players does.

We were in a similar position ahead of the 2005 Ashes series with the media calling for Pietersen to be selected. He was selected and his innings in the 5th test at the Oval meant that we regained the Ashes for the first time in years. Ultimately Pietersen became a toxic presence in the dressing room but at the time he was the right selection.

We will know tomorrow if Archer gets the gig or not, I think the squad is announced on Wednesday.

The only real ingredient missing in the 50 over side at the moment is that 'x-factor' quick bowler.  Not sure whether Archer is that just yet and whether this World Cup might have come just a bit too soon for him.
Why I asked the question I guess - the Pietersen 2005 comparison is a good one but reality is Archer has only played 14 list A games and taken 21 wickets at 30. Hardly ripping up trees - but I do accept his T20 performances have been impressive. Sure he will get the Pakistan ODIís to state his case.

Thereís not much else he can do other than perform in that series.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #339 on: April 16, 2019, 05:48:19 PM »
Woakes (and previously David Willey and Mark Wood) has let himself down there saying it wouldn't be morally fair to pick Archer.

Woakes has tweeted to say that his comments have been taken out of context to make good copy.

Well he would say that wouldn't he.  As an excuse it's right up there with 'I misspoke' and 'Those remarks don't reflect the person I am now.'

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #340 on: April 16, 2019, 06:23:37 PM »
What are the thoughts on Jofra Archer being picked for the World Cup squad ? Iím a bit torn - obviously a talent, and as I understand it whilst qualification rules have been changed recently theyíve only been brought into line with those applying elsewhere rather than fudged, however much of the success has been built on a strong team spirit and thatís got to be affected if one of the long-term members of the squad is suddenly binned on the eve of the tournament.

Iíd have no hesitation in picking him.

The feedback from England players currently playing in the IPL is that heís a special talent and you should select the best players that are available to you. Team spirit doesnít win games or tournaments, picking the best players does.

We were in a similar position ahead of the 2005 Ashes series with the media calling for Pietersen to be selected. He was selected and his innings in the 5th test at the Oval meant that we regained the Ashes for the first time in years. Ultimately Pietersen became a toxic presence in the dressing room but at the time he was the right selection.

We will know tomorrow if Archer gets the gig or not, I think the squad is announced on Wednesday.

The only real ingredient missing in the 50 over side at the moment is that 'x-factor' quick bowler.  Not sure whether Archer is that just yet and whether this World Cup might have come just a bit too soon for him.

That's about where I am. If it was a t20 world cup then he'd be a no-brainer choice but he's very raw in the 50 over format still and I'm not sure a series against Pakistan and Ireland will be enough to show anything either way. If he's devastating in that series then he'll have put his hand up but naming him in the provisional world cup squad tomorrow would be premature for me. I do think he'll be a core part of the England limited overs teams for the next 7-8 years after the world cup though.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #341 on: April 16, 2019, 06:39:54 PM »
Woakes (and previously David Willey and Mark Wood) has let himself down there saying it wouldn't be morally fair to pick Archer.

Woakes has tweeted to say that his comments have been taken out of context to make good copy.

Well he would say that wouldn't he.  As an excuse it's right up there with 'I misspoke' and 'Those remarks don't reflect the person I am now.'

Indeed, it does read a bit different in totality but he still said those words. Also itís not a Ďmoralí thing.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #342 on: April 16, 2019, 07:21:17 PM »
Woakes (and previously David Willey and Mark Wood) has let himself down there saying it wouldn't be morally fair to pick Archer.

Woakes has tweeted to say that his comments have been taken out of context to make good copy.

Well he would say that wouldn't he.  As an excuse it's right up there with 'I misspoke' and 'Those remarks don't reflect the person I am now.'

Indeed, it does read a bit different in totality but he still said those words. Also itís not a Ďmoralí thing.

The Beeb have amended their headline now. Funny that.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #343 on: April 17, 2019, 11:29:50 AM »
Archer isnít in the provisional World Cup squad but he is in the squad to face Pakistan in the warm up matches.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2019
« Reply #344 on: April 17, 2019, 01:06:13 PM »
Archer should be in. Not really sure what Woakes is on about.