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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread  (Read 7750 times)

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Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« on: December 10, 2018, 08:56:35 PM »
I wish it was Saturday already. We're an absolute joy to watch.

El Ghazi and McGinn bang in form.

I expect Stoke to set up like Derby did towards the end of the last season and look for McLean and Ince on the break.

I'm hopefully they'll be more auxiliary full backs.

Nyland

Taylor
Chester
Tuanzebe
Hutton

Hourihane

El Ghazi
McGinn
Grealish
Bolasie

Tammy

I don't think we'll be so profligate in front of goal and that we'll dominate possession and hopefully territory too.

3-1 Villa.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 08:59:14 PM by Ads »

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2018, 09:01:03 PM »
There’s no way caveman football wins on Saturday. 3-0 to us.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2018, 09:38:54 PM »
Can't see Taylor playing and think grealish is a doubt

Have a feeling this might be a draw. But I've been consistently proven pessimistic of late so here's hoping we put them to the sword

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2018, 10:25:00 PM »
Got the same feeling Matt and I too have been mostly wrong in recent weeks (although did predict draws for Forest and WBA).

Stoke have underachieved so far considering their squad (feels a bit like us in 16/17 as they still haven't got over hangover of relegation).

Be interesting how the midfields shape up with them having Joe Allen and of course Ryan Woods who usually dictates against us. You'd think that would now be a thing of the past.

If we can dominate midfield we can win 2-1 but wouldn't shock me if this was a draw.

All fine as I'm pretty confident we'll beat Leeds. They'll come out and attack us and we'll pick off their inexperience back 4.

Stoke will sit back and put 8 behind the ball so different challenge.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2018, 10:26:28 PM »
Can't see Taylor playing and think grealish is a doubt

Have a feeling this might be a draw. But I've been consistently proven pessimistic of late so here's hoping we put them to the sword

AEM is fine in this attacking style so don't think Taylor out weakens us at all for this sort of game. Anyone know if Albert is back soon as if Grealish is out I'd like to see how El Ghazi does in the number 10 role given he's in great from.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2018, 10:27:00 PM »
Proper Villa man 3 Spineless Weasel 0

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2018, 10:27:40 PM »
I feel sorry for Stoke.
Having to face us after that daylight robbery on Friday will be a nightmare for them.

This group of fuckers is going to get well and truly fucked.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2018, 10:38:23 PM »
I don't think sitting in a low block works. Surrendering territory when we have the quality of final delivery we do is foolish.

You fight fire with fire with us. They'll have to score 3 to get  a point I feel.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2018, 10:48:29 PM »
I have a bad feeling about this one.  I truly hope that I am wrong. 

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2018, 10:51:09 PM »
You read Oatcake and they are  carrying on like they lost on Saturday.

Ipswich had as much of the ball, more shots, corners and apparently carried more threat. We lose to this shite and we're not making the automatics.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2018, 11:26:11 PM »
Do people generally think we've got a decent chance of automatics?

I think it will take around 90 points, which means we need around 58 points from 25 games, 2.32 points per game. And as good as we've been under Smith, we are going at 1.88 PPG so would take a phenomenal run, we concede too many goals to do it for me.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2018, 11:58:13 PM »
It won't take 90.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2018, 05:43:50 AM »
Can't see Taylor playing and think grealish is a doubt

Have a feeling this might be a draw. But I've been consistently proven pessimistic of late so here's hoping we put them to the sword

AEM is fine in this attacking style so don't think Taylor out weakens us at all for this sort of game. Anyone know if Albert is back soon as if Grealish is out I'd like to see how El Ghazi does in the number 10 role given he's in great from.

Grealish isn't playing as a ten really though. More of an 8 alongside McGinn. I agree that moving to more of a 4231 with either el ghazi or O'Hare as a 10 does have its attractions. El Ghazi does look like he could be a real threat there and it allows Albert to  come back in.

But expect hourihane would play as the other 8 and Whelan holding. Just think that means a much stodgier midfield. Slower passing from deep and much less creativity and fluidity. 

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2018, 06:03:52 AM »
Do people generally think we've got a decent chance of automatics?

I think it will take around 90 points, which means we need around 58 points from 25 games, 2.32 points per game. And as good as we've been under Smith, we are going at 1.88 PPG so would take a phenomenal run, we concede too many goals to do it for me.

We’ll knock the draws and losses on the head, don’t worry.

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Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City: Pre-match Thread
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 07:08:05 AM »
Do people generally think we've got a decent chance of automatics?

I think it will take around 90 points, which means we need around 58 points from 25 games, 2.32 points per game. And as good as we've been under Smith, we are going at 1.88 PPG so would take a phenomenal run, we concede too many goals to do it for me.

And win on Saturday and we're going at more than 2 points per game.