Quote from: Risso on February 11, 2019, 12:27:18 PMQuote from: Drummond on February 11, 2019, 12:06:29 PMQuote from: Risso on February 11, 2019, 09:27:09 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2019, 11:49:43 PMIt really won't. I'm desperate to get out of this division, not desperate enough to risk spending money we don't have and end up once again facing what we did 6 months ago though. I've no desire to see us spending £12m on complete duds like Hogan ever again, but instead sensible investment to improve our chances of making the play offs this season. The centre of defence has been improved, but as we saw on Friday, the stark reality is that if both full backs are crap, and the midfield in front of them offers no protection, then you're still going to ship goals.So you wanted us to spend money on who exactly? Whatever, we'd have been increasing the wage bill too as the only defender that went out was Bree. We're stuck with Taylor, should have let Hutton go in the summer after all, and have Elmohamady who can play in various roles, Jack (not Grealish) of all trades.You make these points as if it's the easiest thing in the world, when the reality is different.We agreed a deal for Fer, so the money was clearly there. I never said it was easy, but that’s why Smith and the directors get paid the money they do.And have you seen Elmo play this season? He’s been an absolute disaster.Where does Fer play? Not sure he's a left back. We had how many right backs in our squad? And you want to buy more? That's been our problem, we just keep spending money.
Quote from: Drummond on February 11, 2019, 12:06:29 PMQuote from: Risso on February 11, 2019, 09:27:09 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2019, 11:49:43 PMIt really won't. I'm desperate to get out of this division, not desperate enough to risk spending money we don't have and end up once again facing what we did 6 months ago though. I've no desire to see us spending £12m on complete duds like Hogan ever again, but instead sensible investment to improve our chances of making the play offs this season. The centre of defence has been improved, but as we saw on Friday, the stark reality is that if both full backs are crap, and the midfield in front of them offers no protection, then you're still going to ship goals.So you wanted us to spend money on who exactly? Whatever, we'd have been increasing the wage bill too as the only defender that went out was Bree. We're stuck with Taylor, should have let Hutton go in the summer after all, and have Elmohamady who can play in various roles, Jack (not Grealish) of all trades.You make these points as if it's the easiest thing in the world, when the reality is different.We agreed a deal for Fer, so the money was clearly there. I never said it was easy, but that’s why Smith and the directors get paid the money they do.And have you seen Elmo play this season? He’s been an absolute disaster.
Quote from: Risso on February 11, 2019, 09:27:09 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2019, 11:49:43 PMIt really won't. I'm desperate to get out of this division, not desperate enough to risk spending money we don't have and end up once again facing what we did 6 months ago though. I've no desire to see us spending £12m on complete duds like Hogan ever again, but instead sensible investment to improve our chances of making the play offs this season. The centre of defence has been improved, but as we saw on Friday, the stark reality is that if both full backs are crap, and the midfield in front of them offers no protection, then you're still going to ship goals.So you wanted us to spend money on who exactly? Whatever, we'd have been increasing the wage bill too as the only defender that went out was Bree. We're stuck with Taylor, should have let Hutton go in the summer after all, and have Elmohamady who can play in various roles, Jack (not Grealish) of all trades.You make these points as if it's the easiest thing in the world, when the reality is different.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2019, 11:49:43 PMIt really won't. I'm desperate to get out of this division, not desperate enough to risk spending money we don't have and end up once again facing what we did 6 months ago though. I've no desire to see us spending £12m on complete duds like Hogan ever again, but instead sensible investment to improve our chances of making the play offs this season. The centre of defence has been improved, but as we saw on Friday, the stark reality is that if both full backs are crap, and the midfield in front of them offers no protection, then you're still going to ship goals.
It really won't. I'm desperate to get out of this division, not desperate enough to risk spending money we don't have and end up once again facing what we did 6 months ago though.
I think our dealings in January had more to do with next season than this. Take the fullback positions where it is clear that two new players for the future are required. As it is difficult to bring in players you want in January, you are left with players that are not who you really want. The alternative are loans, which was generally our policy. We could have brought in another loan at left back but the Club look as though they decided to keep the money for the summer.The interesting thing for me was the number of young players sent out on loan. We could have kept a couple with a view to bringing them in towards the end of the season but the Club seems to have decided that it is better for the future to push them out on loan.I do wonder whether there has been a bit of easing off on the push for promotion after the injuries started to take effect.
Quote from: olaftab on February 10, 2019, 10:01:32 PMQuote from: Risso on February 10, 2019, 08:25:21 PMUtter, utter bollocks. We needed a right back, a left back and decent midfielder immediately. We got none of those.That's a bit unfair. It's not easy to get real quality players for those key positions. There was no point in buying with haste and ending up with more waste.Neil Taylor is the one of the worst left backs I’ve ever seen. There wasn’t a single gettable replacement anywhere in the world of football who would have improved us? Look how many goals we ship, and look at how many originate from the flanks. Hutton was at least partially responsible for two of Sheffield’s goals on Friday. Add in no decent defensive midfielder, and the failure to replace any of these three is why we’re dropping further and further away from the play offs, and will be lucky at this rate to finish mid table.
Quote from: Risso on February 10, 2019, 08:25:21 PMUtter, utter bollocks. We needed a right back, a left back and decent midfielder immediately. We got none of those.That's a bit unfair. It's not easy to get real quality players for those key positions. There was no point in buying with haste and ending up with more waste.
Utter, utter bollocks. We needed a right back, a left back and decent midfielder immediately. We got none of those.
You may have missed it, but we did buy a right back. We just can’t use him.
Collins?
Quote from: Brassneck on February 10, 2019, 09:49:42 PMQuote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 08:43:19 PMQuote from: Brassneck on February 10, 2019, 08:04:27 PMQuote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 07:55:25 PMNot the "pre season" excuse again, please!?We've got top professionals, with many years in the game, training our fit athletes. The overweight Steve Bruce would not have been in charge of their training regime any more than he would have been responsible for their dietary needs - thank god.What I'm seeing on the pitch is not a team playing fantastic, flowing football for 75 minutes before, unfortunately, running out of steam and letting the opposition back into games. In Fact, from the word go in most matches, it looks more like a team that is confused and unsure of exactly what they should be doing with all of their energy.Of course Bruce would have been in charge of the training regime. Are you seriously suggesting that these fitness coaches make it up as they go along or focus on what they want to without consulting Bruce?You've posted some absolute crap on here over the past few weeks - Presumably to provoke reactions but the above nonsense is your most ridiculous yet.You're talking shit.Steve Bruce wouldn't know a modern training regime if it hit him in his ugly mug.Bruce was, and is, an old fashioned 'Manager' with a coaching team in charge off fitness.Guardiola/Pochettino he is not!So you concede that Bruce doesn't know modern training regimes yet claim that the wasted summer (under the previous "old fashioned" manager is not a valid reason for our lack of energy and that just because they are professional footballers, they should be able to run for extraordinary lengths of time. Oh and despite being "top professionals" you claim they don't know what they're doing.Priceless.There's managers, and there's coaches.Bruce was our manager, not our coach.We had/have a team of highly skilled coaches.The players are not unfit. It's an excuse for Smith's current inability to get decent results against, mainly, very poor sides.That's all we get under these mediocre managers, excuses. We had the same shit when Bruce was underperforming.It's like fucking groundhog day on here, with some people.
Quote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 08:43:19 PMQuote from: Brassneck on February 10, 2019, 08:04:27 PMQuote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 07:55:25 PMNot the "pre season" excuse again, please!?We've got top professionals, with many years in the game, training our fit athletes. The overweight Steve Bruce would not have been in charge of their training regime any more than he would have been responsible for their dietary needs - thank god.What I'm seeing on the pitch is not a team playing fantastic, flowing football for 75 minutes before, unfortunately, running out of steam and letting the opposition back into games. In Fact, from the word go in most matches, it looks more like a team that is confused and unsure of exactly what they should be doing with all of their energy.Of course Bruce would have been in charge of the training regime. Are you seriously suggesting that these fitness coaches make it up as they go along or focus on what they want to without consulting Bruce?You've posted some absolute crap on here over the past few weeks - Presumably to provoke reactions but the above nonsense is your most ridiculous yet.You're talking shit.Steve Bruce wouldn't know a modern training regime if it hit him in his ugly mug.Bruce was, and is, an old fashioned 'Manager' with a coaching team in charge off fitness.Guardiola/Pochettino he is not!So you concede that Bruce doesn't know modern training regimes yet claim that the wasted summer (under the previous "old fashioned" manager is not a valid reason for our lack of energy and that just because they are professional footballers, they should be able to run for extraordinary lengths of time. Oh and despite being "top professionals" you claim they don't know what they're doing.Priceless.
Quote from: Brassneck on February 10, 2019, 08:04:27 PMQuote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 07:55:25 PMNot the "pre season" excuse again, please!?We've got top professionals, with many years in the game, training our fit athletes. The overweight Steve Bruce would not have been in charge of their training regime any more than he would have been responsible for their dietary needs - thank god.What I'm seeing on the pitch is not a team playing fantastic, flowing football for 75 minutes before, unfortunately, running out of steam and letting the opposition back into games. In Fact, from the word go in most matches, it looks more like a team that is confused and unsure of exactly what they should be doing with all of their energy.Of course Bruce would have been in charge of the training regime. Are you seriously suggesting that these fitness coaches make it up as they go along or focus on what they want to without consulting Bruce?You've posted some absolute crap on here over the past few weeks - Presumably to provoke reactions but the above nonsense is your most ridiculous yet.You're talking shit.Steve Bruce wouldn't know a modern training regime if it hit him in his ugly mug.Bruce was, and is, an old fashioned 'Manager' with a coaching team in charge off fitness.Guardiola/Pochettino he is not!
Quote from: Villa75 on February 10, 2019, 07:55:25 PMNot the "pre season" excuse again, please!?We've got top professionals, with many years in the game, training our fit athletes. The overweight Steve Bruce would not have been in charge of their training regime any more than he would have been responsible for their dietary needs - thank god.What I'm seeing on the pitch is not a team playing fantastic, flowing football for 75 minutes before, unfortunately, running out of steam and letting the opposition back into games. In Fact, from the word go in most matches, it looks more like a team that is confused and unsure of exactly what they should be doing with all of their energy.Of course Bruce would have been in charge of the training regime. Are you seriously suggesting that these fitness coaches make it up as they go along or focus on what they want to without consulting Bruce?You've posted some absolute crap on here over the past few weeks - Presumably to provoke reactions but the above nonsense is your most ridiculous yet.
Not the "pre season" excuse again, please!?We've got top professionals, with many years in the game, training our fit athletes. The overweight Steve Bruce would not have been in charge of their training regime any more than he would have been responsible for their dietary needs - thank god.What I'm seeing on the pitch is not a team playing fantastic, flowing football for 75 minutes before, unfortunately, running out of steam and letting the opposition back into games. In Fact, from the word go in most matches, it looks more like a team that is confused and unsure of exactly what they should be doing with all of their energy.