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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #630 on: September 24, 2018, 11:07:05 PM »
Don't forget the Peace Cup.

If Southgate was in that squad that won Le Tournoi then I think we'll be in pole position to snag Messi when his contract's up.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #631 on: September 24, 2018, 11:08:01 PM »
Pretty much any PL side can get a top notch manager now if they wanted to such is the wages they could pay if they chose to. My point was though that using Liverpool as an example doesn't work that well as they've taken the managers of Fulham and Swansea recently so it's not like they were operating on a completely different level to us at the time. Sadly even fecking Bournemouth probably are at present.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #632 on: September 24, 2018, 11:13:03 PM »
But they're Liverpool. If we wanted Fulham's or Swansea's manager at the same time they did (which was, I believe, the case when they/we wanted Rodgers from Swansea) we're not going to prevail.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #633 on: September 24, 2018, 11:23:32 PM »
Again, I never said we would be competing now. However we have in the past which is the time frame you were using from a few years ago. There were 2 next big things in management in 2012, they signed one and we signed the other. Klopp onwards it's a different ballgame as we had an idiot with a shortlist of one, and it's that kind of thinking that has led to where we are now.

That over the last decade they've won the same number of trophies as small heath shows, to me at least, that they haven't exactly excelled when it comes to managerial choices.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #634 on: September 24, 2018, 11:24:41 PM »
Don't forget the Peace Cup.

Or the NextGen.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #635 on: September 24, 2018, 11:27:54 PM »
Again, I never said we would be competing now. However we have in the past which is the time frame you were using from a few years ago. There were 2 next big things in management in 2012, they signed one and we signed the other. Klopp onwards it's a different ballgame as we had an idiot with a shortlist of one, and it's that kind of thinking that has led to where we are now.

That over the last decade they've won the same number of trophies as small heath shows, to me at least, that they haven't exactly excelled when it comes to managerial choices.

Fair enough I guess, but we got the one they didn't want, and we've not been on the same level as them in my lifetime, and I'm 40. See Barry, G. for evidence.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #636 on: September 24, 2018, 11:28:19 PM »
to be better than Bruce is not going to be hard, but I wouldn't want Rogers

always comes over as a bit of a twat and bullshitter I think,
 I know that's not a good enough reason but it's good enough for me

Amusingly he plays exactly the type of football you're constantly demanding.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #637 on: September 24, 2018, 11:32:07 PM »
Again, I never said we would be competing now. However we have in the past which is the time frame you were using from a few years ago. There were 2 next big things in management in 2012, they signed one and we signed the other. Klopp onwards it's a different ballgame as we had an idiot with a shortlist of one, and it's that kind of thinking that has led to where we are now.

That over the last decade they've won the same number of trophies as small heath shows, to me at least, that they haven't exactly excelled when it comes to managerial choices.

Fair enough I guess, but we got the one they didn't want, and we've not been on the same level as them in my lifetime, and I'm 40. See Barry, G. for evidence.

Edit: they've signed Suarez, Torres, Salah, Firmino, and Keita during the same spell that we signed McCormack, Hogan, Snodgrass (loan), Joe Cole and Onomah (loan).

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #638 on: September 24, 2018, 11:36:00 PM »
Players wise I agree that they sign a totally different level to us on the whole, I add on the whole as they've signed some right shite as well in my time.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #639 on: September 24, 2018, 11:36:16 PM »
Again, I never said we would be competing now. However we have in the past which is the time frame you were using from a few years ago. There were 2 next big things in management in 2012, they signed one and we signed the other. Klopp onwards it's a different ballgame as we had an idiot with a shortlist of one, and it's that kind of thinking that has led to where we are now.

That over the last decade they've won the same number of trophies as small heath shows, to me at least, that they haven't exactly excelled when it comes to managerial choices.

Fair enough I guess, but we got the one they didn't want, and we've not been on the same level as them in my lifetime, and I'm 40. See Barry, G. for evidence.

Edit: they've signed Suarez, Torres, Salah, Firmino, and Keita during the same spell that we signed McCormack, Hogan, Snodgrass (loan), Joe Cole and Onomah (loan).

Suarez cost about the same as Darren Bent.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #640 on: September 25, 2018, 12:13:47 AM »
But they're Liverpool. If we wanted Fulham's or Swansea's manager at the same time they did (which was, I believe, the case when they/we wanted Rodgers from Swansea) we're not going to prevail.

Even so we were, in fact, shopping in the same market as Liverpool at the time, whereas you said we weren't and couldn't.  Admittedly we'd be highly unlikely to attract the calibre of Klopp, especially given the contrasting trajectories of the two clubs since 2012, but just because Rodgers managed Liverpool doesn't make him anything particularly special and certainly not out of our league.     

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #641 on: September 25, 2018, 12:15:39 AM »
Surely the time to  appoint Liverpool standard managers was when we were finishing sixth regularly in the premier league? We will struggle to finish sixth in the championship this season.

We did at that time appoint a former Liverpool manager but sadly he was in semi retirement and way past his best as a manager otherwise liverpool wouldn't have sacked him in 2004.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #642 on: September 25, 2018, 12:39:14 AM »
The Plymouth Herald says that Andrea Stramaccioni is being considered. I am sure they have a hot line to events in B6 so I convinced. I now just need to figure out who he is.

I think he was at Inter a Roma, I remember his name coming up before so I checked who he was, has a decent reputation from what i remember.

Not according to this write up

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/29/do-hes-a-complete-failure-aston-villa-fans-stunned-by-andrea-str/

That was the link the Plymouth Herald took the story from but it originated in Italy.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #643 on: September 25, 2018, 12:41:37 AM »
Before I go to bed and have nightmares, can somebody confirm who was in charge of Liverpool when the rumours spread of them being interested in MON? Please don't say it was Purslow.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #644 on: September 25, 2018, 08:43:10 AM »
Pretty much any PL side can get a top notch manager now if they wanted to such is the wages they could pay if they chose to. My point was though that using Liverpool as an example doesn't work that well as they've taken the managers of Fulham and Swansea recently so it's not like they were operating on a completely different level to us at the time. Sadly even fecking Bournemouth probably are at present.

I think that has extended to the Championship somewhat as well PWS.  Maybe not to the extent that top managers from across the continent would consider a job at a Championship club, but managers with a fairly high profile like Nuno and up and coming managers like Wagner have taken charge of clubs at that level.   

 


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