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Author Topic: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19  (Read 30340 times)

Offline paul_e

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #195 on: December 30, 2018, 05:25:27 PM »
It's all too common now villa losing points , the most on league.

It's very frustrating.

I like smithy and his coaching ethos but I was weary of his Brentford negligence which is happening at Villa .

Maybe as I say frustrated as what to be fair.

It's the closing out of matches or finishing teams off which is annoying


Also as mentioned in Preston thread what's JT coaching role as if it's to do with defence strategy and organizing it needs to be somewhat flagged .
Just because it's JT he hasn't had the question on his role.

Now I'm questioning his defence coaching sessions

I think that'a  touch harsh. I defended a lot of the team at the start of season saying I thought they'd be better with decent coaching but with the current defence reverse of that is true, the sheer lack of numbers and quality in the defence means it's hard to judge the coaches and manager on it until they've had a chance to address some of those problems.  We have a keeper, we have Tommy on the books again, if we add a competent left back, a left-sided centre back and a proper Defensive midfielder then we can start to see how things look.

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #196 on: December 30, 2018, 05:27:11 PM »
It's all too common now villa losing points , the most on league.

It's very frustrating.

I like smithy and his coaching ethos but I was weary of his Brentford negligence which is happening at Villa .

Maybe as I say frustrated as what to be fair.

It's the closing out of matches or finishing teams off which is annoying


Also as mentioned in Preston thread what's JT coaching role as if it's to do with defence strategy and organizing it needs to be somewhat flagged .
Just because it's JT he hasn't had the question on his role.

Now I'm questioning his defence coaching sessions
Can't polish poo poos

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #197 on: December 31, 2018, 07:48:54 AM »
I don't know how well qualified Terry will be to coach defence in a high pressing team

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #198 on: December 31, 2018, 09:08:41 AM »
It's all too common now villa losing points , the most on league.

It's very frustrating.

I like smithy and his coaching ethos but I was weary of his Brentford negligence which is happening at Villa .

Maybe as I say frustrated as what to be fair.

It's the closing out of matches or finishing teams off which is annoying


Also as mentioned in Preston thread what's JT coaching role as if it's to do with defence strategy and organizing it needs to be somewhat flagged .
Just because it's JT he hasn't had the question on his role.

Now I'm questioning his defence coaching sessions

It's difficult to close out games if your weakness is defence.  The last thing you can afford to do is invite teams on to you. What we do not have at the moment are players that can retain possession.  If we do not continue to press forward and score goals at the moment, the inevitable will happen.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #199 on: December 31, 2018, 10:22:49 AM »
There is an under lying issue with Smith about closing out matches.

Brentford was an issue and an issue at villa.
That said as better players development then hope can be resolved.

I think it's nature of how want to play .
On front foot winning and scoring goals as much as it is poor defensive organisation.

However the midfield and winger roles in covering and defending positions need address last 15 mins.

Also some Brentford fans question Smith's subs and tactics in matches when leading.

The great thing is man wants to learn and he won't be happy with what's happening

It's not just personnel that can rectify though I optimistic and hopeful Smith can get this right and get the team closing off matches

Offline Ads

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #200 on: December 31, 2018, 10:32:37 AM »
What do you think, tactically you can do to stop a team handling it twice to score and a player of vast experience heading it directly to the opposition.

Offline Risso

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #201 on: December 31, 2018, 12:01:35 PM »
What do you think, tactically you can do to stop a team handling it twice to score and a player of vast experience heading it directly to the opposition.

Don't keep picking a player in Elmo, who despite his vast experience, must have cost about 8 points in recent times.

Offline Brassneck

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #202 on: December 31, 2018, 12:27:06 PM »
There is an under lying issue with Smith about closing out matches.

Brentford was an issue and an issue at villa.
That said as better players development then hope can be resolved.

I think it's nature of how want to play .
On front foot winning and scoring goals as much as it is poor defensive organisation.

However the midfield and winger roles in covering and defending positions need address last 15 mins.

Also some Brentford fans question Smith's subs and tactics in matches when leading.

The great thing is man wants to learn and he won't be happy with what's happening

It's not just personnel that can rectify though I optimistic and hopeful Smith can get this right and get the team closing off matches

We regularly conceded late under MoN. 

I think it's too early to judge Smith on this as it's only been 3 games and with out keeper and defence, we're susceptible to conceding at any point.  Let's see if it's a problem between now and May as I am hopeful of vast improvement.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #203 on: December 31, 2018, 12:28:43 PM »
When our 4th choice right-back is currently playing Centre-back, I'm not sure who other than Elmohamady we could have realistically played at right-back for the past few games.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #204 on: December 31, 2018, 01:08:17 PM »
What do you think, tactically you can do to stop a team handling it twice to score and a player of vast experience heading it directly to the opposition.

Close down spaces , stop supply . Have a more defensive minded nature ?
Possession football.
Depends but it's how a coach wants to play it and the players at his disposal.

At times this open nature of the villa play can be a hindrance as much as a delight seemingly.


Offline Brassneck

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #205 on: December 31, 2018, 01:17:02 PM »
What do you think, tactically you can do to stop a team handling it twice to score and a player of vast experience heading it directly to the opposition.

Close down spaces , stop supply . Have a more defensive minded nature ?
Possession football.
Depends but it's how a coach wants to play it and the players at his disposal.

At times this open nature of the villa play can be a hindrance as much as a delight seemingly.

Give him time - You didn't see Brentford conceding many last gasp goals.

The open nature of Villa's play has been a Godsend after the torture of watching Bruceball for 2 years.  As a bonus, even with your criticisms, we've still reaped more points than we had under Bruce.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #206 on: December 31, 2018, 01:25:19 PM »
It suits circumstances to say injuries and inherited squad .

If had picked up more points then this wouldnt be an issues.

In terms of fairness I take on board the situation and things could have gone a lot worse but also better.

I do know think on right track and there is far more offensive tactically astute coaching being displayed .

The balance hopefully will come with time.

Ip the villa and happy New year

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #207 on: December 31, 2018, 01:27:52 PM »
What do you think, tactically you can do to stop a team handling it twice to score and a player of vast experience heading it directly to the opposition.

Close down spaces , stop supply . Have a more defensive minded nature ?
Possession football.
Depends but it's how a coach wants to play it and the players at his disposal.

At times this open nature of the villa play can be a hindrance as much as a delight seemingly.



You cannot coach to avoid a goal that would have been disallowed in rugby. You cannot coach for utter stupidity either. As Russo says, you get rid, only we can't.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #208 on: December 31, 2018, 09:08:23 PM »
Ah if only only Russo was actually Rene Russo and not some Villa supporting internet forum gasbag called Risso...

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Villa Style, Tactics & Formations 2018/19
« Reply #209 on: January 02, 2019, 12:16:15 PM »
John Mcginnn should play the deep lying midfielder role

He could be coached to play that position but also still drive forward.

I rather him than Hourihane there - he could be further forward

 


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