I'm sure Man City fans are gutted the way their fortunes have changed.That said, they've not moved into a football stadium, they've into a converted athletics stadium, the same as West Ham and you can tell.A new ground doesn't have to be a soulless bowl.
Ideally, we'd approach it along the lines of Borussia Dortmund's ground. It's not just a soulless bowl, they've taken each stand up in size, and managed to fill the corners in a way that still keeps the traditional rectangle and four sides in place.If there was no issue with the residents behind the park on the Witton side, I'd love us to take both the North and Witton stands up to the size of the Trinity, or even beyond. But do it with a coherent plan to take the whole ground up in size – that's a big indictment of the Ellis era, that four new stands have so little connection to each other.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on July 29, 2019, 01:37:10 PMQuote from: old man villa fan on July 29, 2019, 12:14:33 PMThe idea of a new stadium on the old Wholesale Markets site is a non-starter. The reason for moving the markets is to open up the area to re-link Digbeth and Highgate to the centre so that residential areas can be built (see 'The Big City Plan'). The Planners are not going to accept a massive stadium blocking what they are trying to create. Any new major stadium will have to be built outside the inner ring road.Any reason why it couldn’t be in the Gun Quarter?Theres no available land?
Quote from: old man villa fan on July 29, 2019, 12:14:33 PMThe idea of a new stadium on the old Wholesale Markets site is a non-starter. The reason for moving the markets is to open up the area to re-link Digbeth and Highgate to the centre so that residential areas can be built (see 'The Big City Plan'). The Planners are not going to accept a massive stadium blocking what they are trying to create. Any new major stadium will have to be built outside the inner ring road.Any reason why it couldn’t be in the Gun Quarter?
The idea of a new stadium on the old Wholesale Markets site is a non-starter. The reason for moving the markets is to open up the area to re-link Digbeth and Highgate to the centre so that residential areas can be built (see 'The Big City Plan'). The Planners are not going to accept a massive stadium blocking what they are trying to create. Any new major stadium will have to be built outside the inner ring road.
There's some desperate attempts to try to prove Villa's support is rubbish. Not really sure why, our support was spectacular up and down the country while we were in the second tier, and people are more enthused about the club than they have been in decandes. The ticket sales speak for themselves. We have a choice, expand... or force our own fans to miss out.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2019, 07:12:16 PMThere's some desperate attempts to try to prove Villa's support is rubbish. Not really sure why, our support was spectacular up and down the country while we were in the second tier, and people are more enthused about the club than they have been in decandes. The ticket sales speak for themselves. We have a choice, expand... or force our own fans to miss out. Or let's see how next the season or two goes. No-one is forcing any fans to miss out at all. What an over dramatic comment.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 29, 2019, 05:56:06 PMI don’t think using Man City and West Ham Will ever be good examples to justify a new stadium. They used existing facilities built for the entirely different events. Spurs seems to be the closest thing to something fans actually want. Again, it doesn't really matter how they got into the new grounds. The point is, even a half-arsed club who used to be famous like West Ham are pulling in well over 50,000 a game.
I don’t think using Man City and West Ham Will ever be good examples to justify a new stadium. They used existing facilities built for the entirely different events. Spurs seems to be the closest thing to something fans actually want.
Quote from: Clampy on July 29, 2019, 08:44:41 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2019, 07:12:16 PMThere's some desperate attempts to try to prove Villa's support is rubbish. Not really sure why, our support was spectacular up and down the country while we were in the second tier, and people are more enthused about the club than they have been in decandes. The ticket sales speak for themselves. We have a choice, expand... or force our own fans to miss out. Or let's see how next the season or two goes. No-one is forcing any fans to miss out at all. What an over dramatic comment. Alright then, not optimising our massive potential. How's about that, better?
Quote from: Clampy on July 29, 2019, 08:44:41 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2019, 07:12:16 PMThere's some desperate attempts to try to prove Villa's support is rubbish. Not really sure why, our support was spectacular up and down the country while we were in the second tier, and people are more enthused about the club than they have been in decandes. The ticket sales speak for themselves. We have a choice, expand... or force our own fans to miss out. Or let's see how next the season or two goes. No-one is forcing any fans to miss out at all. What an over dramatic comment.Of course they are. If we have 50,000 Villa fans wanting to attend matches and only 39,000 can do so, then that's 11,000 missing out. An so on. The longer we leave it, the greater the lost revenue.
Nah, let's look at it now. Our stadium isn't big enough for a club of our stature any more.