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Online Damo70

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1590 on: July 11, 2018, 11:58:53 PM »
I'm thinking we should call him Xia Xia Binks such is his effectiveness.

Do you mean Jar Jar Binks? If so, if so unfortunately there appears to be no money in the jar jar or in the binks (sorry, banks). ;)

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1591 on: July 12, 2018, 06:47:53 AM »
How many seconds do you think it would take any corporate advisor or Investment Banker to tell him to fuck off if he came up with the idea of raising £30 to £ 40 million for a minority interest.
So we can take this part of the story as total horse shit.
Then you have to take into account everything else that has been said.

You're saying he's made it up? That there was no investment offer batted away?

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1592 on: July 12, 2018, 09:09:36 AM »
I think there was offers but probably the conditions placed on the investment were not to his liking.
The way things are going administration can't be far off.

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1593 on: July 12, 2018, 12:42:41 PM »
I'm thinking we should call him Xia Xia Binks such is his effectiveness.

You're hilarious!

Thanks sweetie.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1594 on: July 12, 2018, 12:52:48 PM »
I'm thinking we should call him Xia Xia Binks such is his effectiveness.

You're hilarious!

I used to work with a woman that looked like Jar Jar Binks, she really did it was uncanny. Now that was hilarious.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1595 on: July 12, 2018, 02:12:13 PM »
How many seconds do you think it would take any corporate advisor or Investment Banker to tell him to fuck off if he came up with the idea of raising £30 to £ 40 million for a minority interest.
So we can take this part of the story as total horse shit.
Then you have to take into account everything else that has been said.

You're saying he's made it up? That there was no investment offer batted away?
I think his statement said there was an offer but they did not know where the money was coming from( sort of ironic).
I am suggesting that raising 10 s of millions for a minority stake in Aston Villa is fanciful in the extreme.
There are situations where minority holdings are taken under these circumstances with caveats leading to changes in controll or ownership.
But a minority position without controll ? unless of course it’s some sort of ( related party transaction) see above.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 02:14:59 PM by ChicagoLion »

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1596 on: July 12, 2018, 03:26:09 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1597 on: July 12, 2018, 04:08:02 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.
If they fancy that sort of gamble we were 7:1  to be promoted so they’d get seven times back.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1598 on: July 12, 2018, 04:22:21 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.
If they fancy that sort of gamble we were 7:1  to be promoted so they’d get seven times back.
Exactly, there are investments and gambles.
Any one putting up that sort of money would have a strategic objective, and it’s pretty difficult to work out how that is accommodated as a minority shareholder.

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1599 on: July 12, 2018, 04:33:43 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.
If they fancy that sort of gamble we were 7:1  to be promoted so they’d get seven times back.
Exactly, there are investments and gambles.
Any one putting up that sort of money would have a strategic objective, and it’s pretty difficult to work out how that is accommodated as a minority shareholder.

If we’re successful they make money, if not and we are sold they are well placed to buy out the rest of the club or they sell their shares to the next buyer. It seems unlikely but not as far fetched as some of you seem to think.

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1600 on: July 12, 2018, 06:16:28 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.

I think we would need to employ a decent CEO at this point to sell that investment opportunity to someone .I can't see why anyone with millions of pounds to invest would trust anything Xia would say

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1601 on: July 12, 2018, 06:55:18 PM »
How many seconds do you think it would take any corporate advisor or Investment Banker to tell him to fuck off if he came up with the idea of raising £30 to £ 40 million for a minority interest.
So we can take this part of the story as total horse shit.
Then you have to take into account everything else that has been said.

You're saying he's made it up? That there was no investment offer batted away?
I think his statement said there was an offer but they did not know where the money was coming from( sort of ironic).
I am suggesting that raising 10 s of millions for a minority stake in Aston Villa is fanciful in the extreme.
There are situations where minority holdings are taken under these circumstances with caveats leading to changes in controll or ownership.
But a minority position without controll ? unless of course it’s some sort of ( related party transaction) see above.


I'm confused by your position. There was an offer of investment which makes the notion of minority investment fanciful?

There's a difference between ownership and control of a company as well.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1602 on: July 12, 2018, 08:33:34 PM »
How many seconds do you think it would take any corporate advisor or Investment Banker to tell him to fuck off if he came up with the idea of raising £30 to £ 40 million for a minority interest.
So we can take this part of the story as total horse shit.
Then you have to take into account everything else that has been said.

You're saying he's made it up? That there was no investment offer batted away?
I think his statement said there was an offer but they did not know where the money was coming from( sort of ironic).
I am suggesting that raising 10 s of millions for a minority stake in Aston Villa is fanciful in the extreme.
There are situations where minority holdings are taken under these circumstances with caveats leading to changes in controll or ownership.
But a minority position without controll ? unless of course it’s some sort of ( related party transaction) see above.


I'm confused by your position. There was an offer of investment which makes the notion of minority investment fanciful?

There's a difference between ownership and control of a company as well.
Nothing confusing at all and I think I know the difference between ownership and controll.
Which is why I used the word “ or”.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1603 on: July 12, 2018, 08:48:19 PM »
There's potentially a case for minority investment if they feel they will get their money back. i.e. promotion. Someone who is a pure investor may just feel it's worth a shot, with a view that promotion would double their investment.
If they fancy that sort of gamble we were 7:1  to be promoted so they’d get seven times back.
Exactly, there are investments and gambles.
Any one putting up that sort of money would have a strategic objective, and it’s pretty difficult to work out how that is accommodated as a minority shareholder.

If we’re successful they make money, if not and we are sold they are well placed to buy out the rest of the club or they sell their shares to the next buyer. It seems unlikely but not as far fetched as some of you seem to think.
As I said, buying a minority stake with the possibility of taking a majority or controlling position is possible, the chances that someone will chuck 30 million+ Without that would be pretty unusual.

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1604 on: July 12, 2018, 10:06:08 PM »
How do you reconcile the position then? Somebody offered circa 30%, this is a minority stake, yet you state this is fanciful. I asked if you meant he was making it up and you said no. So I remain confused by what you mean.