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Offline nigel

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #945 on: May 13, 2019, 06:55:51 PM »
Although I've got the jist off FFP, i have to admit it still baffles me at times.

Was having a conversation with my lad about if we don't go up. We both reckon Jack and SJM will probably go. Jack £40m (buy out clause) SJM £25? (cost £3m). That would give us £62m profit. What portion of that could be reinvested in the team to stay compliant?
My guess would be £39m to keep us compliant with £23m to spend. Or is that way too easy 😯

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #946 on: May 13, 2019, 07:28:09 PM »
Getting £65m for Grealish and McGinn is very optimistic I think - especially if other clubs know we need to sell to keep within FFP and that Jack wants/needs to leave for the sake of his career.

We will however save a pretty penny by offloading most of the players who are out of contract  - Hutton, DeLaet, Jedinak, Whelan, Richards, Elphick, and Bunn.  Other than Whelan, none of them are vital.


Offline nigel

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #947 on: May 13, 2019, 08:07:27 PM »
Cheers, bud.
I got the £65m simply from that  I'd heard Jack has a £40 clause in his contract, and McGinn is surely worth £25m.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #948 on: May 14, 2019, 01:27:33 PM »
Notwithstanding the clause, if we don't go up we will need to sell him.  Buying clubs will know this and I suspect we'd be lucky to get much more than £20-£25m.

Same if we sell McGinn really.  Prob £15m tops.

They are both clearly worth more, but our circumstances would mean we'd be selling under duress.

Online paul_e

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #949 on: May 14, 2019, 01:49:42 PM »
Notwithstanding the clause, if we don't go up we will need to sell him.  Buying clubs will know this and I suspect we'd be lucky to get much more than £20-£25m.

Same if we sell McGinn really.  Prob £15m tops.

They are both clearly worth more, but our circumstances would mean we'd be selling under duress.

I think if the offers are around that then we just won't sell and they'll handle it. The current lot don't come across as the sort who'd be fucked around by someone like Levy. I reckon we'd be looking at £45m as the absolute minimum that those 2 will raise with £50-60m more likely.

Offline KRS

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #950 on: May 25, 2019, 02:36:58 AM »
Apparently Boro are going to attempt to sue Derby over breach of financial rules:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/24/exclusive-middlesbrough-sue-derby-alleged-breaches-offinancial/amp/

Offline achilles

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #951 on: May 30, 2019, 08:17:11 PM »
Just viewed this and I found it fascinating as I knew we were in trouble but never realised just how much trouble, real knife edge stuff:


Offline mr underhill

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #952 on: May 30, 2019, 08:33:59 PM »
I've just read that Sawiris is buying the ground and putting it into a separate company. Anyone else pick up on this?

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #953 on: May 30, 2019, 08:35:16 PM »
It's speculation based on some changes in our details recorded at companies House

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #954 on: May 30, 2019, 09:06:07 PM »
I've just read that Sawiris is buying the ground and putting it into a separate company. Anyone else pick up on this?

Why would we even need to do this with 170m guaranteed coming in over the next three years just from Sky even if we went straight back down?

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #955 on: May 30, 2019, 09:16:08 PM »
I've just read that Sawiris is buying the ground and putting it into a separate company. Anyone else pick up on this?

Why would we even need to do this with 170m guaranteed coming in over the next three years just from Sky even if we went straight back down?
To invest a boat load of cash

Offline Des Little

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #956 on: May 30, 2019, 10:01:41 PM »
No idea, but if anyone knows their way around ffp, itís these three!

Offline aev

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #957 on: May 30, 2019, 11:01:24 PM »
Soft transfer embargo?

Offline andyh

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #958 on: May 30, 2019, 11:03:49 PM »
I read that, what does it even mean?

Offline aev

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #959 on: May 30, 2019, 11:06:15 PM »
Not sure but doesnít sound good.

The difference in money between the 2 leagues is ridiculous to be honest.