Quote from: clash city rocker on March 26, 2019, 07:57:43 PMQuote from: rougegorge on March 25, 2019, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.
Quote from: rougegorge on March 25, 2019, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.
Quote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.
Only caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?
I know he is everywhere, but I think this column from Kieran Maguire is a really interesting read: Villa saved by the train?https://offthepitch.com/a/villa-saved-trainUnfortunately it is behind a paywall but they offer 30-day free trial and if you also like to read about Football Finance and the industry, it seems like a good site. Only been a subscriber for a few days so please don't take me up on it, if you think it is bullshit.
Quote from: b23 on March 25, 2019, 07:22:51 PMAn interesting article on the BBC internet sport.Blackburn, Bolton and Birmingham: Seven charts showing how Championship clubs reached this pointhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47691385Thanks for that, B23. Quite interesting. Kieran Maguire seems to know a thing or two about a thing or two on the issue.
An interesting article on the BBC internet sport.Blackburn, Bolton and Birmingham: Seven charts showing how Championship clubs reached this pointhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47691385
Quote from: VikingWarrior on March 27, 2019, 11:39:34 AMI know he is everywhere, but I think this column from Kieran Maguire is a really interesting read: Villa saved by the train?https://offthepitch.com/a/villa-saved-trainUnfortunately it is behind a paywall but they offer 30-day free trial and if you also like to read about Football Finance and the industry, it seems like a good site. Only been a subscriber for a few days so please don't take me up on it, if you think it is bullshit.If they/you would like to advertise we can always discuss rates.
75k a week on Bolasie. Absolutely criminal. From near liquidation to criminal masterclass.
Quote from: Newby on March 27, 2019, 08:59:56 AM75k a week on Bolasie. Absolutely criminal. From near liquidation to criminal masterclass. Bruce was SOLELY in charge of transfers/contracts at that point
Quote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 26, 2019, 08:03:26 PMQuote from: clash city rocker on March 26, 2019, 07:57:43 PMQuote from: rougegorge on March 25, 2019, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.The current situation falls on 6 people to varying degrees, Lerner and Sherwood for making a fucking mess of the summer before relegation, Wyness, Xia and RDM for signings like McCormack in the first summer down and Bruce for adding to that with the likes of Hogan, Lansbury, Bjarnason (who cost a fair bit, are on big wages and never play) and some incredibly expensive loans.
Quote from: paul_e on March 27, 2019, 11:32:47 AMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 26, 2019, 08:03:26 PMQuote from: clash city rocker on March 26, 2019, 07:57:43 PMQuote from: rougegorge on March 25, 2019, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.The current situation falls on 6 people to varying degrees, Lerner and Sherwood for making a fucking mess of the summer before relegation, Wyness, Xia and RDM for signings like McCormack in the first summer down and Bruce for adding to that with the likes of Hogan, Lansbury, Bjarnason (who cost a fair bit, are on big wages and never play) and some incredibly expensive loans.But all of that was set in motion the day that O'Neill cynically walked out at the worst possible time having been naively trusted by Lerner to the point that there was no-one at the club who could steady the ship.
Quote from: mike on March 28, 2019, 02:51:25 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 27, 2019, 11:32:47 AMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 26, 2019, 08:03:26 PMQuote from: clash city rocker on March 26, 2019, 07:57:43 PMQuote from: rougegorge on March 25, 2019, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on March 25, 2019, 08:34:31 PMOnly caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station, but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on, Kieran Maguire, was very knowledgeable.Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday. We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh. We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.The current situation falls on 6 people to varying degrees, Lerner and Sherwood for making a fucking mess of the summer before relegation, Wyness, Xia and RDM for signings like McCormack in the first summer down and Bruce for adding to that with the likes of Hogan, Lansbury, Bjarnason (who cost a fair bit, are on big wages and never play) and some incredibly expensive loans.But all of that was set in motion the day that O'Neill cynically walked out at the worst possible time having been naively trusted by Lerner to the point that there was no-one at the club who could steady the ship.Yes,you can argue that.But it does not forgive those that came after and fucked up and that includes Bruce.
I don’t disagree it’s just that O’Neill is not on the list of people Paul names as responsible and he should be. Bruce was the second most brainless appointment after McLeish.