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Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #855 on: March 26, 2019, 01:11:11 AM »
An interesting article on the BBC internet sport.

Blackburn, Bolton and Birmingham: Seven charts showing how Championship clubs reached this point

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47691385

Thanks for that, B23. Quite interesting. Kieran Maguire seems to know a thing or two about a thing or two on the issue.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #856 on: March 26, 2019, 08:50:39 AM »
Does anyone have a link to the WM show and is it playable outside of the West-Mids?

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #857 on: March 26, 2019, 01:55:13 PM »

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #858 on: March 26, 2019, 02:36:00 PM »
Ta.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #859 on: March 26, 2019, 07:57:43 PM »


Only caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.

From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?
Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station,  but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on,  Kieran Maguire,  was very knowledgeable.

Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday.

We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.

Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #860 on: March 26, 2019, 08:03:26 PM »


Only caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.

From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?
Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station,  but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on,  Kieran Maguire,  was very knowledgeable.

Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday.

We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.

Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.

So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?

It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.




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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #861 on: March 26, 2019, 08:20:16 PM »
We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

Not really. The new owners took charge in late July.  I'm not sure how being close to liquidation the month before meant he had to:
- loan out Elphick (31st Aug) and leave us without a back-up centre half,
- spunk good money on loaning Moereira (26th July) and buying Nyland (7th Aug) while loaning out Jed Steer who is at least their equal
- bring in 2 wingers (Bolasie and El Ghazi) on the 22nd and 25th August while loaning out Green, but not bring in a left back.

Those were nothing to do with the financial situation, just shit management of resources.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #862 on: March 26, 2019, 09:13:38 PM »
Yes, I really wish we had Bruce back in charge of this football team, with his strong financial skills and brilliant transfer dealing.

Offline KRS

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #863 on: March 26, 2019, 09:19:24 PM »
We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

Not really. The new owners took charge in late July.  I'm not sure how being close to liquidation the month before meant he had to:
- loan out Elphick (31st Aug) and leave us without a back-up centre half,
- spunk good money on loaning Moereira (26th July) and buying Nyland (7th Aug) while loaning out Jed Steer who is at least their equal
- bring in 2 wingers (Bolasie and El Ghazi) on the 22nd and 25th August while loaning out Green, but not bring in a left back.

Those were nothing to do with the financial situation, just shit management of resources.
Can't really argue with that. I have sympathy with him for his family and personal issues, but there are no excuses for some of his decisions regarding his management of Aston Villa.

Offline mike

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #864 on: March 26, 2019, 10:51:02 PM »
We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

Not really. The new owners took charge in late July.  I'm not sure how being close to liquidation the month before meant he had to:
- loan out Elphick (31st Aug) and leave us without a back-up centre half,
- spunk good money on loaning Moereira (26th July) and buying Nyland (7th Aug) while loaning out Jed Steer who is at least their equal
- bring in 2 wingers (Bolasie and El Ghazi) on the 22nd and 25th August while loaning out Green, but not bring in a left back.

Those were nothing to do with the financial situation, just shit management of resources.

Absolutely. It was all very nice signing attacking players but it did seem obvious we had massively failed to fill a JT shaped hole in our defence. Then there was his continued belief that playing a midfielder at centre half, a centre half at right back and a right back at left back was a good idea.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #865 on: March 26, 2019, 11:55:02 PM »
Villa were two hours from Administration/Liquidation last summer.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #866 on: March 27, 2019, 12:07:59 AM »
We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

Not really. The new owners took charge in late July.  I'm not sure how being close to liquidation the month before meant he had to:
- loan out Elphick (31st Aug) and leave us without a back-up centre half,
- spunk good money on loaning Moereira (26th July) and buying Nyland (7th Aug) while loaning out Jed Steer who is at least their equal
- bring in 2 wingers (Bolasie and El Ghazi) on the 22nd and 25th August while loaning out Green, but not bring in a left back.

Those were nothing to do with the financial situation, just shit management of resources.

Absolutely. It was all very nice signing attacking players but it did seem obvious we had massively failed to fill a JT shaped hole in our defence. Then there was his continued belief that playing a midfielder at centre half, a centre half at right back and a right back at left back was a good idea.
And even when we signed attacking players like Abraham he then just dropped Kodjia to the bench at Blackburn away insisting on playing just one up front arrrgh !

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #867 on: March 27, 2019, 08:38:59 AM »
And we still play one up front to this day. What a visionary!

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #868 on: March 27, 2019, 08:59:56 AM »
75k a week on Bolasie. Absolutely criminal. From near liquidation to criminal masterclass. 

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #869 on: March 27, 2019, 09:26:54 AM »


Only caught the last 40 minutes of the WM thing tonight. Just as well as my heads still aching now.

From what i gather, if we don't get promoted then we're really got to sell Jack to balance the books. If we don't go up i'd expect that to happen anyway obviously. The problem then is, who do we sell to balance the books the next summer if we still aren't promoted ?
Yes that was insightful stuff on WM. Lots of people on here slate the station,  but that was a good listen this evening. The guy they had on,  Kieran Maguire,  was very knowledgeable.

Blues were spending nearly twice as much as they were bringing in, and Wolves would have been in trouble had they not been promoted. They lost far more than anyone last season but apparently promotion bonuses aren't included in any calculation. Also an interesting article on Redknapp in the Observer yesterday.

We were so close to liquidation in the summer, that the criticism Bruce gets about leaving the squad in a parlous state now seems quite harsh.

We may need to get creative ourselves in the summer if we don't go up or inevitably we'll sell Jack and maybe McGinn.

Bruce was a major contributor to us being in the shit.

So was O'Neill, how far we gonna go back into our repertoire of making awful business decisions ?

It's been one bad decision after another for god knows how long now.

Well you canít go back further than OíNeill because before that we had Doug - & The we didnít make bad business decisions, we made bad football decisions instead!