I think he's a decent player, but unlike Snodgrass who seems thrive on pressure and adversity, Onomah wilts and fades if things aren't going well and loses all his confidence.
Agree, Onomah wasn't that bad against Preston. He's still young with a lot to learn and is undoubtedly talented. Some people on here criticised Grealish in the same fashion....
Looking back, I can't help but think Onomah was signed to be a bit of a utility midfield player, capable of playing centrally, behind the striker, and out on the left. It obviously hasn't worked out that way, as playing further forward seems beyond him, at least at his current stage.
Quote from: passitsideways on February 25, 2018, 09:40:00 PMLooking back, I can't help but think Onomah was signed to be a bit of a utility midfield player, capable of playing centrally, behind the striker, and out on the left. It obviously hasn't worked out that way, as playing further forward seems beyond him, at least at his current stage.... playing further back seems beyond him, too.As junx above says, the loan system should be about instant improvement in squad quality for the recipient-club and accelerated development of a talent for the loaning club. In this case, neither appears to have happened.
Quote from: Risso on February 25, 2018, 01:04:50 PMQuote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 01:01:48 PMQuote from: eamonn on February 25, 2018, 12:51:52 PMQuote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 09:46:05 AMI think he's a decent player but at the moment maybe better coming off the bench. Not as easy to decide that if we're financially penalised by Spurs for not starting him. Probably worth the risk of promotion without him featuring prominently than playing him just to save a couple of hundred thou you would have thought.Why would we be financially penalised? We paid a loan fee for him. They can't fine us for not playing him.No, that sounds exceedingly unlikely. It’s more like there’s an unwritten agreement that he’ll play as much as possible and Bruce doesn’t want to upset Spurs.Personally I would love it if we upset Spurs.
Quote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 01:01:48 PMQuote from: eamonn on February 25, 2018, 12:51:52 PMQuote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 09:46:05 AMI think he's a decent player but at the moment maybe better coming off the bench. Not as easy to decide that if we're financially penalised by Spurs for not starting him. Probably worth the risk of promotion without him featuring prominently than playing him just to save a couple of hundred thou you would have thought.Why would we be financially penalised? We paid a loan fee for him. They can't fine us for not playing him.No, that sounds exceedingly unlikely. It’s more like there’s an unwritten agreement that he’ll play as much as possible and Bruce doesn’t want to upset Spurs.
Quote from: eamonn on February 25, 2018, 12:51:52 PMQuote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 09:46:05 AMI think he's a decent player but at the moment maybe better coming off the bench. Not as easy to decide that if we're financially penalised by Spurs for not starting him. Probably worth the risk of promotion without him featuring prominently than playing him just to save a couple of hundred thou you would have thought.Why would we be financially penalised? We paid a loan fee for him. They can't fine us for not playing him.
Quote from: Clampy on February 25, 2018, 09:46:05 AMI think he's a decent player but at the moment maybe better coming off the bench. Not as easy to decide that if we're financially penalised by Spurs for not starting him. Probably worth the risk of promotion without him featuring prominently than playing him just to save a couple of hundred thou you would have thought.
I think he's a decent player but at the moment maybe better coming off the bench.
Quote from: Mister E on February 26, 2018, 08:15:32 AMQuote from: passitsideways on February 25, 2018, 09:40:00 PMLooking back, I can't help but think Onomah was signed to be a bit of a utility midfield player, capable of playing centrally, behind the striker, and out on the left. It obviously hasn't worked out that way, as playing further forward seems beyond him, at least at his current stage.... playing further back seems beyond him, too.As junx above says, the loan system should be about instant improvement in squad quality for the recipient-club and accelerated development of a talent for the loaning club. In this case, neither appears to have happened.Who knows re Tottenham's end - perhaps a loan spell playing fairly constantly in the Championship, no matter if the performances were a mixed bag leaning towards the negative end of the scale, is better than getting a few minutes here and there at Spurs.I mean, I honestly can't think of very many games where he's played back in midfield - it's almost always been Hourihane + one of Whelan/Jedinak/Bjarnason. Even if he did, I can't help but think his style (at least based off the U20 video, he looked like someone who's better when given freedom to drive forward with the ball to link up with the attackers) isn't really what Bruce wants either. So, yeah, the more and more time has gone by, the more ill-fitting the loan appears - I can only imagine that we didn't have too many options.
Quote from: passitsideways on February 26, 2018, 09:43:06 AMQuote from: Mister E on February 26, 2018, 08:15:32 AMQuote from: passitsideways on February 25, 2018, 09:40:00 PMLooking back, I can't help but think Onomah was signed to be a bit of a utility midfield player, capable of playing centrally, behind the striker, and out on the left. It obviously hasn't worked out that way, as playing further forward seems beyond him, at least at his current stage.... playing further back seems beyond him, too.As junx above says, the loan system should be about instant improvement in squad quality for the recipient-club and accelerated development of a talent for the loaning club. In this case, neither appears to have happened.Who knows re Tottenham's end - perhaps a loan spell playing fairly constantly in the Championship, no matter if the performances were a mixed bag leaning towards the negative end of the scale, is better than getting a few minutes here and there at Spurs.I mean, I honestly can't think of very many games where he's played back in midfield - it's almost always been Hourihane + one of Whelan/Jedinak/Bjarnason. Even if he did, I can't help but think his style (at least based off the U20 video, he looked like someone who's better when given freedom to drive forward with the ball to link up with the attackers) isn't really what Bruce wants either. So, yeah, the more and more time has gone by, the more ill-fitting the loan appears - I can only imagine that we didn't have too many options.From what I have seen of him so far, I think playing as one of the more advanced midfielders in 4-1-4-1 formation (basically where Hourihane and Grealish were playing before the latter got injured) would be his best role. He has spent most of his playing time since he has been here either in the 'number 10' role or on the left wing, neither of which suit him really.
Has been pretty rubbish in every position we have tried him in, and seems to have zero work ethic. I would hope the club are considering ending the loan early to save on his wages at this stage as he clearly has nothing to offer.