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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1365 on: November 13, 2018, 04:34:23 PM »
He could do be, but I think its a challenge if were expextinh him to bowl.

Agree, especially as he has had a few injury problems over the years.   

He only bowled 12 overs across both innings of the first test. Are they saving him to use as an impact bowler?

They should be, it's what he's good at. Moving him probably reinforces that I'm happy with this change

It's worth a look I suppose Paul, but I'm not sure it is going to be a permanent solution to the problems at the top of the order.  Burns has got his chance, but I still think Gubbins and Jason Roy could be given a chance, with the latter being a possibility for the three spot.. 

I agree, what I'm getting at is I see this as confirmation that they want Stokes to be the ultra aggressive strike bowler who gets a couple of 3-4 over spells per day at most and is expected to give every ball 100%. He can focus on adding pace and bounce and become the bowler he should be whilst we use Woakes, Curran and Ali to get through huge amounts of work.

I agree on Roy, I know he's a one day specialist but like Stokes he gives us some real intent and aggression. He's also a fantastic fielder.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1366 on: November 14, 2018, 12:54:08 AM »
I'm surprised that Roy hasn't been given a chance. He does play pretty straight for a hitter.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1367 on: November 14, 2018, 06:55:03 AM »
This likes were going to be struggling, need to try and creep up to around 300.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1368 on: November 14, 2018, 07:02:43 AM »
This likes were going to be struggling, need to try and creep up to around 300.

One of these tests we are not going to bailed out by the lower middle order and will be on the back foot from day one.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1369 on: November 14, 2018, 08:16:11 AM »
Pity Foakes didn't review that decision, he was nowhere near out.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1370 on: November 14, 2018, 08:43:32 AM »
This likes were going to be struggling, need to try and creep up to around 300.

I think we will struggle to get 250 at the moment. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1371 on: November 14, 2018, 10:21:11 AM »
Good effort by Curran here to get things closer to respectability. That said looking at the stats for the ground, in 7 matches we already have the 4th highest first innings score so 250-300 is par. Get over 278 and we'll have the 3rd highest and if Curran can hog the strike and keep swinging we're not far from that.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1372 on: November 14, 2018, 10:27:17 AM »
Lucky there with a dolly dropped, England putting on the pressure hear.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1373 on: November 14, 2018, 10:28:22 AM »
This is brilliant stuff, Curran dropped and the next ball he dispatches for 6.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1374 on: November 14, 2018, 10:32:36 AM »
Lucky there with a dolly dropped, England putting on the pressure hear.

Fucking abysmal effort at a catch, not wanting to over sell it but it's one of the worst drops I've ever seen.

and that's the 3rd highest first innings on this ground.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1375 on: November 14, 2018, 10:42:24 AM »
Sri Lanka are woeful.

Curran for me is more of a batter who can bowl so I'd like to see him pushed up the order by the time the Ashes come round. Woakes can then play instead of Broad or one of the spinners. I feel sorry for our Bears man as I i think the perception is we can only play him or Curran, never both.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1376 on: November 14, 2018, 10:42:50 AM »
Curran on 64 and he hasn't hit a 4 yet! Plenty of 6s' though.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1377 on: November 14, 2018, 10:44:44 AM »
Sam Curran's runs have been pretty invaluable in his short test career so far. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1378 on: November 14, 2018, 10:57:11 AM »
Sri Lanka are woeful.

Curran for me is more of a batter who can bowl so I'd like to see him pushed up the order by the time the Ashes come round. Woakes can then play instead of Broad or one of the spinners. I feel sorry for our Bears man as I i think the perception is we can only play him or Curran, never both.

This is why Stokes at 3 is an important experiment. If he can slot in there then Curran, Ali and Foakes/Bairstow are 6, 7 and 8 in whatever order you like. Woakes is handy with the bat as well so he's a great option at 9. Then Rashid or Leach at 10 and Jimmy at 11. If the Stokes experiment doesn't work then the question comes over how you fit everyone into that middle order. There's probably a temptation to move Buttler but, for me, that would be a huge mistake. The biggest problem for us at 3 though is that we just can't seem to get an opening partnership that regularly gets through the new ball. I said it about the Bears last year, once Sibley and Rhodes started looking like they'd see off the first 15-20 every game our performances at 3-5 stepped up a level.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1379 on: November 14, 2018, 12:11:50 PM »
Woakes record with the Kookaburra ball is poor so he will not be an automatic pick for overseas tests.

Hes a much better bowler with a Dukes ball in his hand.