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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1335 on: November 08, 2018, 04:08:08 PM »
Really pleased for Keaton Jennings after all his struggles.  Hopefully the weather will be OK over the next couple of days. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1336 on: November 09, 2018, 01:32:31 AM »
It seems that in the South of Sri Lanka it rains mainly in the evenings. We had a huge storm last night. Torrential rain and very strong winds. This morning ( day 4 ) it is much cooler than it has been. Very cloudy but the humidity has dropped.
It was a great knock by Jennings.  Hopefully we can skittle them out today.

Can anyone see my flags by the way?  One is a Flag of St George with A.V.F.C and a lion in the centre. The other is a white ensign with Warwickshire C.C.C. and Heroes and Villains in the bottom right corner. They are hanging on the high chain link fencing with loads of others.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1337 on: November 09, 2018, 06:37:18 AM »
Iíve seen them both Andy. Good to see them both!

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1338 on: November 09, 2018, 10:06:21 AM »
7 down now, could well be all over today.

This innings has backed up my thoughts that 3 spinners was unnecessary though, Leach and Moeen have been great but Rashid bowls far too many deliveries that would be good in ODI/t20 but can be ignored in tests. If you watch right now, he's pitching 18 inches outside off stump to the leftie, which is only going to be remotely threatening if they're trying to slog sweep him away. If he didn't bowl any bad balls it'd be fine because he'd be hard to score from, but he almost inevitably gets the length wrong on a few in every spell and gives up cheap runs for it, I just don't see him as a test match bowler.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1339 on: November 09, 2018, 11:39:45 AM »
What a fascinating selection dilemma we now have.

Foakes had a wonderful debut and he should retain his pace. Moeen should not bat at 3 and we donít need a third spinner, particularly at Pallekele which is probably the most seamer friendly pitch in Sri Lanka. So do we drop Rashid and hand a debut to Stone whose extra pace gives our attack another option? Or do we recall either Woakes or Broad? Who goes to 3?

A nice problem to have if theyíre all fit.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1340 on: November 09, 2018, 11:40:06 AM »
Nice win for England, some decent bowling today.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1341 on: November 09, 2018, 12:28:17 PM »
What a fascinating selection dilemma we now have.

Foakes had a wonderful debut and he should retain his pace. Moeen should not bat at 3 and we donít need a third spinner, particularly at Pallekele which is probably the most seamer friendly pitch in Sri Lanka. So do we drop Rashid and hand a debut to Stone whose extra pace gives our attack another option? Or do we recall either Woakes or Broad? Who goes to 3?

A nice problem to have if theyíre all fit.

Woakes for Rashid. Stokes to bat at 3. I think that he can adapt his style of play to the circumstances of a game better than Moeen

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1342 on: November 09, 2018, 01:06:06 PM »
I suppose the question is does Ďthe mostí seamer friendly pitch in Sri Lanka mean enough to warrant another seamer? Especially given how well Stokes played today. I doubt we need more than 3 seamers, given the variety 3 spinners gives us.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1343 on: November 09, 2018, 01:31:54 PM »
I suppose the question is does Ďthe mostí seamer friendly pitch in Sri Lanka mean enough to warrant another seamer? Especially given how well Stokes played today. I doubt we need more than 3 seamers, given the variety 3 spinners gives us.

Personally I think Waokes or Stone would bring more to the team than Rashid in most conditions, as I've said, even when he's bowling well Rashid bowls too many bad deliveries for easy runs which means his ones that are passing a foot away from the stumps rarely tempt people to play. The wicket he got today was one where he got a bit straighter and put less spin on it so it tempted the drive and moved enough to take an edge, if he bowled like that more often he'd be fine but he spends too much time tempted people to slog/reverse sweep/etc which isn't particularly effective in test cricket.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1344 on: November 09, 2018, 01:46:08 PM »
Woakes has to play.

The selectors simply cannot pass up an opportunity to have a batting line up that goes: Stokes, Foakes and Woakes

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1345 on: November 09, 2018, 01:48:30 PM »
Great win well done all.

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« Reply #1346 on: November 09, 2018, 02:44:41 PM »
Excellent win considering our recent record away from home and our longer standing struggles in the first tests of series.  Sri Lanka look a pretty poor side, but I guess that is balanced out by the fact that they were playing in one of their strongholds.

We've had a look at some less experienced players in this test and they did well.  From what I saw, Leach provided some real control with the ball and Foakes had a very impressive test. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1347 on: November 09, 2018, 03:11:09 PM »
Iíd play Stone ahead of Woakes.

Woakes record with the Kookaburra ball is poor and Stone is easily the quickest bowler in the party. That extra yard of pace that Stone has gives our attack a level of variety that we donít have with Woakes who is similar to the rest of our seam attack. Anderson/Stokes/Broad/Woakes are all too samey.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1348 on: November 09, 2018, 03:56:50 PM »
Iíd play Stone ahead of Woakes.

Woakes record with the Kookaburra ball is poor and Stone is easily the quickest bowler in the party. That extra yard of pace that Stone has gives our attack a level of variety that we donít have with Woakes who is similar to the rest of our seam attack. Anderson/Stokes/Broad/Woakes are all too samey.

I think Woakes is competing for a spot with Curran now and I can't see him dislodging him at the moment.  If we are going to play an extra seamer in the next test then I imagine it will be either Broad (likely) or Stone (would like to see him given a go to be honest).  The big question will then be which one of the three spinners is left out of the side.   

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #1349 on: November 09, 2018, 04:49:57 PM »
Iíd play Stone ahead of Woakes.

Woakes record with the Kookaburra ball is poor and Stone is easily the quickest bowler in the party. That extra yard of pace that Stone has gives our attack a level of variety that we donít have with Woakes who is similar to the rest of our seam attack. Anderson/Stokes/Broad/Woakes are all too samey.

I think Woakes is competing for a spot with Curran now and I can't see him dislodging him at the moment.  If we are going to play an extra seamer in the next test then I imagine it will be either Broad (likely) or Stone (would like to see him given a go to be honest).  The big question will then be which one of the three spinners is left out of the side.   

Rashid should make way. He bowls too many one day balls. Moeen and Leach offer so much more control and pose a greater wicket threat.