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Offline UK Redsox

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2018, 11:08:51 AM »
So, when Stokes hadn't been charged he wasn't eligible for selection but now that he has been charged, he can be selected.

Seems strange

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2018, 12:40:21 PM »
That's what I thought, seems a bizarre decision not to select him pending charge (presumably because of the possibility of being charged) and then once he is charged he's available. Unless they were concerned about a more severe charge? Otherwise innocent until proven guilty and all that.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2018, 06:50:24 PM »
I'd guess that they suspended him on the worry that he'd be charged with something that, pretty much, guaranteed a custodial sentence but now he's formally charged with Affray they believe that risk has pretty much gone (given the mitigating circumstances involved).

Personally I think he'll be found guilty, given some community service and will see it out with coaching sessions at youth cricket clubs or something similar.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2018, 12:19:07 AM »
Brilliant, a one day series against Australia that everybody will have forgotten about within 6 months. Unless England win the series and then everything will be brilliant again.

Not so sure about that Chris with the World Cup only just over a year away now.  A good series win down there would be a good achievement in building towards next summer.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2018, 11:07:03 AM »
Do we have any mods in the Cricket threads ?

Somehow we've ended up with two threads for 2018 internationals that need merging.

(I assume that a Bears/Pears/Domestic thread will be set up nearer the start of the season)

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2018, 11:47:56 AM »
I think they've confirmed that Stokes is available for selection as there is a real chance that he could sue them for restraint of trade if his exclusion was continued.

It will be interesting to see how he fares in the IPL player auction. I think he was the most  expensive IPL player in 2017. He's free to play and I think he's got a point to prove.


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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2018, 03:16:43 PM »
I think they've confirmed that Stokes is available for selection as there is a real chance that he could sue them for restraint of trade if his exclusion was continued.

It will be interesting to see how he fares in the IPL player auction. I think he was the most  expensive IPL player in 2017. He's free to play and I think he's got a point to prove.

Not sure how that would stand to be honest, as aren't international sides 'invitational'.  Central contracts might change that though.   

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2018, 05:55:55 PM »
I think they've confirmed that Stokes is available for selection as there is a real chance that he could sue them for restraint of trade if his exclusion was continued.

It will be interesting to see how he fares in the IPL player auction. I think he was the most  expensive IPL player in 2017. He's free to play and I think he's got a point to prove.

Not sure how that would stand to be honest, as aren't international sides 'invitational'.  Central contracts might change that though.   

You're still contracted though aren't you? The ECB ruling has cost Stokes roughly £130k in lost match fees so if the ban were to continue I'd have thought he'd have got twitchy about lost earnings.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2018, 06:02:57 PM »
Do we have any mods in the Cricket threads ?

Somehow we've ended up with two threads for 2018 internationals that need merging.

(I assume that a Bears/Pears/Domestic thread will be set up nearer the start of the season)
My bad as I didnít see this when I started the other. I would request this stays and the other is merged in to this.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2018, 01:14:37 AM »
I think they've confirmed that Stokes is available for selection as there is a real chance that he could sue them for restraint of trade if his exclusion was continued.

It will be interesting to see how he fares in the IPL player auction. I think he was the most  expensive IPL player in 2017. He's free to play and I think he's got a point to prove.

Not sure how that would stand to be honest, as aren't international sides 'invitational'.  Central contracts might change that though.   

You're still contracted though aren't you? The ECB ruling has cost Stokes roughly £130k in lost match fees so if the ban were to continue I'd have thought he'd have got twitchy about lost earnings.

I guess, but I was talking more about the idea that there could be legal action for restraint of trade.  As I said, I'm not sure where that would sit due to selection for England being invitational.  I guess if they froze his central contract then that might be different.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2018, 07:06:06 AM »
Good stuff from England again in the one day format, restricting the Aussies to 270-9 from 50 overs.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2018, 07:48:02 AM »
Itís amazing how the mindset has changed for players and fans alike over the years  on one day scores. At one time anything over 250 to chase was a no no but now days  no one is phased by anything up to 300 and you need something closer to 350 for assured win.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2018, 08:08:46 AM »
Itís amazing how the mindset has changed for players and fans alike over the years  on one day scores. At one time anything over 250 to chase was a no no but now days  no one is phased by anything up to 300 and you need something closer to 350 for assured win.

Yep.  Even as recently as the early 90's (though not that recent now I suppose), anything over 200 was seen as a competitive score.  I guess the Sri Lankans at the 1996 World Cup were amongst the first sides to look to really attack, particularly in the first 15 overs.

Despite losing Roy, we've made a pretty strong start in reply.  Are you still out there mate?

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2018, 08:30:56 AM »
I reckon England win with 7-8 overs to spare here, as above you really need to post 350+ against this England side to put any scoreboard pressure on them.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread 2018
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2018, 09:32:18 AM »
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