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Author Topic: Time to Rebuild?  (Read 21661 times)

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #105 on: October 24, 2018, 07:33:19 AM »
It is pretty staggeringly incompetent to have bought the team of individuals we have at still one of the most expensive budgets in the league and be potentially bottom six on Saturday and five points behind a club under a transfer embargo that boasts Gary Gardner as their lynchpin midfielder.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #106 on: October 24, 2018, 07:37:38 AM »
exactly right. I wouldn't miss any of our players other than McGinn who has more commitment than the others put together.

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2018, 07:39:55 AM »
It’s a real mess of a squad. Goalkeeper, two full backs & a centre half required. We are stuck with the likes of Lansbury, Hogan, no promotion this season.

Online OzVilla

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2018, 07:53:24 AM »
It is pretty staggeringly incompetent to have bought the team of individuals we have at still one of the most expensive budgets in the league and be potentially bottom six on Saturday and five points behind a club under a transfer embargo that boasts Gary Gardner as their lynchpin midfielder.

I know it's been said a million times before but Steve Bruce did a staggeringly incompetent job, particularly from the takeover on wards with our Summer dealings.  I've no idea what he was thinking.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2018, 08:05:44 AM »
probably fuck you?

Offline ajmant

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2018, 08:53:08 AM »
It’s a mess of a squad with little pace. An injection of pace in January would help. Midfield especially is all one paced. Needs changing.

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2018, 10:21:01 AM »
probably fuck you?

Do you genuinely believe Steve Bruce bought duds out of spite, while still in the biggest job he will ever have? 

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2018, 11:05:48 AM »
probably fuck you?

Do you genuinely believe Steve Bruce bought duds out of spite, while still in the biggest job he will ever have? 
Exactly.  He didn't achieve what he should have with the resources at his disposal, but some of the posts on here about him are ridiculous.  Hysterical even.

Offline brian green

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2018, 11:22:34 AM »
In precise language I do not think that Steve Bruce deliberately sabotaged the club any more than a smoker sabotages his own health by smoking cigarettes.  It is deliberate denial of the need to comprehend the eventual outcome of unwise actions.  Benign sabotage you might call it.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #114 on: October 25, 2018, 11:37:07 AM »
probably fuck you?

Do you genuinely believe Steve Bruce bought duds out of spite, while still in the biggest job he will ever have? 
Exactly.  He didn't achieve what he should have with the resources at his disposal, but some of the posts on here about him are ridiculous.  Hysterical even.

'I lose one game and everyone becomes hysterical, it's off wi me head.'  Sorry couldn't resist.

Offline XXVilla

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2018, 12:28:56 PM »
probably fuck you?

Do you genuinely believe Steve Bruce bought duds out of spite, while still in the biggest job he will ever have?

I don’t disbelieve it..

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2018, 12:53:49 PM »
I was semi joking - but I honestly think he was set on being bloody minded because of a series of unfortunate events entirely of his own making - starting with the owners refusing to bring Terry back as a player on 60k a week,  the Spanish goalkeeper, who clearly wasn't a player he wanted ( although he was probably right on that one) the  left back who slipped through his fingers would also have irked, and then we had  Nyland pulled from the heavens followed by two unnecessary and hugely expensive wingers being brought in and he strange exits of a competent keeper  middling senior centre back ,  RDL etc. To compound his misery, he then failed twice to sign a real centre back, knowing weeks before that it was a crucial transfer that had to happen, before landing Abraham - again a rare good move. a total clusterfuck that sadly Dean Smith will pay for .

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2018, 03:02:36 PM »
There’s no doubt that the trasnsfer window activity was uneven.  We got McGinn, but didn’t get a centre half.  We got 2 keepers but at least one looks a bit shit.  We got 2 wingers, both with big reputations but both yet to deliver anything a quarter of the season gone (Bolasie looking way the more likely to justify a spit in the squad).  I just put it down to odd decisions and not enough time with new owners to sanction deals that late in the day.  Bruce is far from blameless, but no way was he sabotaging anything. 

Offline Clampy

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2018, 03:32:18 PM »
I was semi joking - but I honestly think he was set on being bloody minded because of a series of unfortunate events entirely of his own making - starting with the owners refusing to bring Terry back as a player on 60k a week,  the Spanish goalkeeper, who clearly wasn't a player he wanted ( although he was probably right on that one) the  left back who slipped through his fingers would also have irked, and then we had  Nyland pulled from the heavens followed by two unnecessary and hugely expensive wingers being brought in and he strange exits of a competent keeper  middling senior centre back ,  RDL etc. To compound his misery, he then failed twice to sign a real centre back, knowing weeks before that it was a crucial transfer that had to happen, before landing Abraham - again a rare good move. a total clusterfuck that sadly Dean Smith will pay for .

I don't think Bruce was being 'bloody minded' just because a few transfer targets didn't work out, that's just utter nonsense. He fucked up letting players go and not replacing them, especially at center half. If he was really being as bloody minded as you say, he would not have brought in Abraham and McGinn, who are two very good players for this division. Anyone who thinks he left us short at the back on purpose is being ridiculous.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Time to Rebuild?
« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2018, 03:44:30 PM »
The squad is a mess because Bruce was an incompetent tool.

 


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