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Author Topic: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video  (Read 7529 times)

Offline West Derby Villan

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2017, 04:38:05 PM »
Where will these water cannon come from?


Water cannon r us ?

Offline Dougs Socks

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2017, 04:44:04 PM »

Sod the Water Cannon...a 50 Cal mounted on the top of riot van would be more apt lol

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2017, 04:51:44 PM »
I've no idea where they would come from, but soaked to the bone in freezing cold water (not even from water canon) would motivate a lot of idiots to go home.

Not ideal, but how would you suggest breaking up a 100 strong mob that are forcing 2000 football fans to be held against their will for hours?

Offline ColinMac

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2017, 05:03:11 PM »
I've no idea where they would come from, but soaked to the bone in freezing cold water (not even from water canon) would motivate a lot of idiots to go home.

Not ideal, but how would you suggest breaking up a 100 strong mob that are forcing 2000 football fans to be held against their will for hours?

Maybe i would do what was suggested in the video and start dispersing them as soon as the first few congregated, deal with the issue as soon as it starts.

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2017, 05:40:42 PM »
What the vid fails to relate is after waiting for the gates to open those of us who had to get back to the city centre were no safer than if we had been let out immediately- I just said to two youngsters who were frightened just come with me and hide your colours. For sure a bit of a cock up by wmp.

Offline Holte132

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2017, 06:21:01 PM »
They are saying that we keep phoning the police asking to be kept behind safely at the derby games!

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2017, 06:43:48 PM »
They are saying that we keep phoning the police asking to be kept behind safely at the derby games!

I don't like any glamourising of football violence. It is fucking stupid and I don't appreciate it when we sink to their level and people start posting nonsense about who is the hardest or took most liberties.

I do take particular umbrage with them and this bollocks though because it has become yet another myth of their own creation.

Whether that be that they are somehow singled out for poor treatment by the Police (presumably whilst we are chauffeured to our armour plated Land Rovers for a trip back to the countryside) or we are all so scared of even meeting one of them that we persistently call for protection from the army, what grinds my gears as how many of their fans you hear repeat this sort of thing as fact.

I am quite happy to walk out of any ground on 90 minutes and mingle with the opposition. Where it becomes an issue is where you persistently get hundreds of fucking idiots, standing round in the cold, throwing shit at the Police because they can't throw it our fans instead.

That so many revel in this being proof positive of an achievement da Vile cant match (and that includes otherwise quite pleasant and rational people) really does boggle the mind.

Offline russon

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2017, 07:03:29 PM »
Where will these water cannon come from?
Water cannon r us ?
That the shop next door to Toys Am We?

Offline jcsutv

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2017, 07:28:00 PM »
The main blues fan the camera followed waited an hour and a half as he didn't know another way to his car from the ground. Says it all.

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2017, 07:44:42 PM »
In fairness, it's difficult to remember the way when you only attend matches once a season.

Offline luke95

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2017, 08:35:37 PM »
The main blues fan the camera followed waited an hour and a half as he didn't know another way to his car from the ground. Says it all.

He's an ex copper & wasn't it him who kicked up a bit of fuss over the police being a bit over the top on some blues outside?

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2017, 08:46:28 PM »
I imagine he was was asked to wait to provide comment on the plod.

Offline stuart445

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2017, 09:03:47 PM »
A constant shower of ice cold water would curb their enthusiasm, they'd soon get bored.

That's out of order, you know having a wash is against their beliefs.

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2017, 10:52:22 PM »
Given the state of the polyester clad fannies at the bottom of the road they should be glad the lads don’t get the tickets anymore.

Offline Dublin Villa

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Re: Behind the scenes at the Birmingham derby - guardian online video
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2017, 07:54:35 AM »
You could argue remove the police and majority of the disorder would disappear as the mouthy pavement dancers would run home, but the danger is always that  innocent fans who go for the football and do not have any  affinity to firms or football violence would be attacked as was often the case in the past.

The whole video was  ugly though.  2000 Villa fans falsely imprisoned because  a few hundred tnucs wouldn't go home. 


 


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