Quote from: saunders_heroes on October 15, 2017, 08:22:26 PMOh for the days of finishing top 6 in the Premier League!
Oh for the days of finishing top 6 in the Premier League!
Quote from: Stu on October 15, 2017, 04:44:27 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on October 15, 2017, 04:23:01 PMMON was a cock in many ways, a conversation we have had at great length and especially in the manner in which it all ended. But it was on the surface at least a much, much better time. I’d take challenging for a top six spot in the PL versus what we do with our time now.Of course. I think what gets up my nose is the narrative that getting Villa to finish 6th was a remarkable achievement. It wasn't.7 out of the 10 previous managers to MON achieved 6th or better. In those terms, his "achievement" places him ahead of only Turner, McNeill, and Venglos.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on October 15, 2017, 04:23:01 PMMON was a cock in many ways, a conversation we have had at great length and especially in the manner in which it all ended. But it was on the surface at least a much, much better time. I’d take challenging for a top six spot in the PL versus what we do with our time now.Of course. I think what gets up my nose is the narrative that getting Villa to finish 6th was a remarkable achievement. It wasn't.
MON was a cock in many ways, a conversation we have had at great length and especially in the manner in which it all ended. But it was on the surface at least a much, much better time. I’d take challenging for a top six spot in the PL versus what we do with our time now.
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 15, 2017, 06:51:11 PMQuote from: Stu on October 15, 2017, 04:44:27 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on October 15, 2017, 04:23:01 PMMON was a cock in many ways, a conversation we have had at great length and especially in the manner in which it all ended. But it was on the surface at least a much, much better time. I’d take challenging for a top six spot in the PL versus what we do with our time now.Of course. I think what gets up my nose is the narrative that getting Villa to finish 6th was a remarkable achievement. It wasn't.7 out of the 10 previous managers to MON achieved 6th or better. In those terms, his "achievement" places him ahead of only Turner, McNeill, and Venglos.Where I give him credit is in the consistency - finishing top 6 in 3 consecutive years is something I cannot previously recall us doing. The obvious problem was that we just couldn't build on that and move upwards. When he left 6th place felt like failure and we should have had a plan to replace him and move on.
I like Daniel Taylor but as hes a Forest fan I think hes allowed his memories of him on a Forest shirt to Colour his judgement.
Never knew of his post-football career in insurance. I wonder if Chelts would hire him.QuoteRobertson remembers what his mate was like in the world of insurance. “By his own admission, Martin’s knowledge of the financial services we were trying to sell was not the best. But he came across as though he knew the business inside out.”Fake it til you make it, Bullshitter O'Neill.
Robertson remembers what his mate was like in the world of insurance. “By his own admission, Martin’s knowledge of the financial services we were trying to sell was not the best. But he came across as though he knew the business inside out.”
It's interesting to consider the narrative had Bale and Allen been able to play a full part for Wales, which could well have turned the result.Ireland fail to qualify, MO'N comes under the same scrutiny as Strachan & Coleman; time for a change, maybe?; no apparent interest in MO'N for top club jobs; is it time for him to retire?Of course, a 1-0 win changes all that, for some.Incidentally, I never blame MO'N for spending all that cash, some of which, we might care to remember, was very well spent. Rather I would blame the prat who allowed him to spend what he wanted with no oversight. Be thankful. If it had been Redknapp in charge instead, the club might have folded!!
Everyone who backs O'Neill seems to regard him as a managerial genius who walked out because Lerner stopped throwing money at him. Isn't that precisely the time where good managers prove their ability?
I think Ireland will be his last job. I don't think he was ever first in and last out of the office or training ground like Ferguson used to be. More like a Clough turning up when he chose to. I think the schedule of an international manager suits him. I can't see that the kind of clubs who would hire him these days would interest him.