Quote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Clampy on September 27, 2017, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PMHull were relegated because they lost most matches and usually had 30% or less possession in nearly all of their matches. I will now wait for someone to play the Leicester were champion card.It's almost as if even after 3 straight wins, people are trying to find something that's not good enough instead of trying to be being positive. Each to their own I suppose.No it's a completely separate discussion on possession. I have not related this to our results but you are doing that. What was wrong with our possession last night?
Quote from: Clampy on September 27, 2017, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PMHull were relegated because they lost most matches and usually had 30% or less possession in nearly all of their matches. I will now wait for someone to play the Leicester were champion card.It's almost as if even after 3 straight wins, people are trying to find something that's not good enough instead of trying to be being positive. Each to their own I suppose.No it's a completely separate discussion on possession. I have not related this to our results but you are doing that.
Quote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PMHull were relegated because they lost most matches and usually had 30% or less possession in nearly all of their matches. I will now wait for someone to play the Leicester were champion card.It's almost as if even after 3 straight wins, people are trying to find something that's not good enough instead of trying to be being positive. Each to their own I suppose.
Hull were relegated because they lost most matches and usually had 30% or less possession in nearly all of their matches. I will now wait for someone to play the Leicester were champion card.
Quote from: Clampy on September 27, 2017, 06:34:49 PMQuote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 06:23:38 PMQuote from: Clampy on September 27, 2017, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PMHull were relegated because they lost most matches and usually had 30% or less possession in nearly all of their matches. I will now wait for someone to play the Leicester were champion card.It's almost as if even after 3 straight wins, people are trying to find something that's not good enough instead of trying to be being positive. Each to their own I suppose.No it's a completely separate discussion on possession. I have not related this to our results but you are doing that. What was wrong with our possession last night?Nothing, and literally no one said there was a problem, you and Chris just created a strawman argument for no reason other than to poke fun at people who were unhappy with the possession against Forest. When we get 35% or less people will comment on it, regardless of the result, because having that little of the ball makes it hard to control games and as you play better sides letting them have so much of the ball is a big risk. You can still win games like that and if everything falls into place you can have a good run but it will always be the exception rather than the norm. To make a big deal of it again today is pretty childish and doesn't reflect well on either of you.
Blimey, there's some touchy people out there, merely making the point that possession means sod all a lot of the time. I don't take a blind bit of notice of it but see on BT that Benfica are 2-0 down having had 70% possession and Bayern are also 2-0 down having had 64% possession. I'm fairly sure that if it stays the same their supporters won't be celebrating.
Quote from: Chris Jameson on September 27, 2017, 08:48:02 PMBlimey, there's some touchy people out there, merely making the point that possession means sod all a lot of the time. I don't take a blind bit of notice of it but see on BT that Benfica are 2-0 down having had 70% possession and Bayern are also 2-0 down having had 64% possession. I'm fairly sure that if it stays the same their supporters won't be celebrating.Anorak!
I just glanced out of the window and I think it's still raining however I can't be sure as it's very dark outside and rain is usually dark.
Quote from: Chris Jameson on September 27, 2017, 08:48:02 PMBlimey, there's some touchy people out there, merely making the point that possession means sod all a lot of the time. I don't take a blind bit of notice of it but see on BT that Benfica are 2-0 down having had 70% possession and Bayern are also 2-0 down having had 64% possession. I'm fairly sure that if it stays the same their supporters won't be celebrating.and Man U are winning with 66%and Roma won with 59%and Barcelona are winning with 71%and Celtic are winning with 70%Chelsea are drawing with 55% and Juventus can't score despite having 79%So 2 games are being won by teams with less of the ball and 4 are being won (or already won) by teams with more of the ball. Seems to back up the point that having better possession is a good idea. I think if we did the same degree of analysis on a broader sample you'd probably find the pattern stays fairly consistent. On top of that I suspect you'd find a cliff edge somewhere around 40-42% where the chances of winning drops significantly. I'm not doing it though, it's just not worth the time.
Quote from: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 09:20:44 PMI just glanced out of the window and I think it's still raining however I can't be sure as it's very dark outside and rain is usually dark.The rain is monopolising possession of the light.