Aston 'where will it all end' Villa v Middlesvilla Post Match Thread.

[richtheholtender]

Apologies, wrong thread

[taylorsworkrate]

Just checked Beeb and Sky and only Snodgrass was booked first half according to match reports and the live updates.

Fair enough then. My eyesight might need looking into  (and the reporters at Sky Sports by the looks of it)

[SoccerHQ]

Surprised more hasn't been made of Snodgrass's miss, that was a total sitter in my book. Randolph parries it out to him and he's six yards out and central.

Went for the glory finish and that also cost us two points.

[The Edge]

Which side in this division has a better player for player squad? Which side has better than Johnstone, Terry, Adomah, Kod, Chester, Taylor, Hotlips, Snodgrass, Onomah etc. Which club has a better 3rd, or even 4th choice RB than Hutton? Or a better 4th choice striker than Gabby. Better 4th choice CB than Elphick. And so on.

Here lies the heart of the problem. We've bought our way into a proper conundrum. There has been no coherent plan regarding player purchases. ie: 3 right backs and 1 left back. A rag tag and bobtail collection of midfield players cherry picked from other championship clubs who Bruce is trying to shoe horn into his negative 4-5-1 system. Add to that a serious lack of pace in there and the prospect of automatic promotion looks like a pipe dream.

[KRS]

Just checked Beeb and Sky and only Snodgrass was booked first half according to match reports and the live updates.

Fair enough then. My eyesight might need looking into  (and the reporters at Sky Sports by the looks of it)

It was a straight red by the looks of the match reports. Snodgrass was booked in the first half.

[Matt Collins]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

[The Edge]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

[brontebilly]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

Not necessarily, Barcelona successfully played with none up front for a time. 

[paul_e]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

Not necessarily, Barcelona successfully played with none up front for a time. 

Not really, they played without a centre forward but with 2 wide forwards, which is slightly different.

On topic 451 is ok if you let the wingers or full backs and 1 of the midfielders get into the box.  For us the system is more like a bowl with the wingers as wide as possible, 2 normal centre mids and a defensive mid which leaves the striker very isolated for large parts of the game.  We've done it pretty much since Bruce arrived.

[The Edge]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

Not necessarily, Barcelona successfully played with none up front for a time.

We're not Barcelona though are we? Works great when you have players with fantastic movement, energy and ability. We possess none of those qualities.

[paul_e]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

Not necessarily, Barcelona successfully played with none up front for a time.

We're not Barcelona though are we? Works great when you have players with fantastic movement, energy and ability. We possess none of those qualities.

Just getting players into the right areas on the pitch would go a long way to fixing it and I think we might see a fair bit more ability than we expect if we did that.

[Damo70]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

4-5-1 doesn't have to be negative. I remember David Pleat's Spurs with just Clive Allen up and the likes of Hoddle, Waddle, Hodge and Clausen scoring plenty between them. There are plenty of other examples of teams playing an attacking 4-5-1 these days. It is just that we aren't one of those teams.

[The Edge]

I wish people would stop commenting on 451 as by definition negative

I think that this season the majority of sides in the league are playing one up front. Including all of the top three (?)

Playing one up front at home against Brentford isn't negative?

Not necessarily, Barcelona successfully played with none up front for a time. 

Not really, they played without a centre forward but with 2 wide forwards, which is slightly different.

On topic 451 is ok if you let the wingers or full backs and 1 of the midfielders get into the box.  For us the system is more like a bowl with the wingers as wide as possible, 2 normal centre mids and a defensive mid which leaves the striker very isolated for large parts of the game.  We've done it pretty much since Bruce arrived.

I totally agree. 4-5-1 isn't necessarily negative but the way Bruce employs it it really is.

[Chris Jameson]

Are we appealing the Lansbury red card in the hope his ban is increased?