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Author Topic: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths  (Read 281066 times)

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2017, 12:05:27 AM »
Can anyone still foresee 10 away wins, after the last 10 days?

Sure. A decent manager and I can see it very easily.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2017, 12:10:08 AM »
I'm struggling to see 10 wins anywhere with Bruce in charge.

Offline Hillbilly

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2017, 01:53:36 AM »
We are not getting out of this division alive.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 02:02:20 AM »
Can anyone still foresee 10 away wins, after the last 10 days?

Most definitely. All at Villa Park.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 02:21:41 PM »
Can anyone still foresee 10 away wins, after the last 10 days?

Sure. A decent manager and I can see it very easily.

Genuine question - how could we use our existing squad more effectively to (a) score more in general and (b) win away from home?


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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 02:44:20 PM »
As that squad to press and play 15 yards higher up the pitch and closer together in possession would be my immediate suggestions.

There's a fuck tonne of tinkering that can be done.

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 02:45:10 PM »
who'd play and how many per season would they score?

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2017, 03:49:47 PM »
I'm not willing to entertain an argument that isn't one of the best squad's in the league.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2017, 04:15:03 PM »
Only "one of" the best, Ads? You're slipping.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2017, 05:12:45 PM »
 :-[Should we get ready to change the name of this thread to Relegation Maths?

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2017, 05:35:16 PM »
I'm not willing to entertain an argument that isn't one of the best squad's in the league.

I was asking a honest question on how the squad could be used to turn out a team capable of winning away and perhaps more convincingly at home.

From my point I view I think there are massive doubts in the squad, namely:
(1) lack of pace
(2) lack of creative supply to forwards
(3) inability for our best forward to form partnerships with the rest of the team
(4) lack of quality in wide midfield areas
(5) lack of quality in defensive midfield/reliance on jedinak
(6) lack of goals from so called creative/attacking midfielders
(7) debatable quality of full backs
(8) the need to play deep to accommodate the lack of pace from our marquee signing over the summer
(9) mental fragility when going behind
(10) lack of fitness to pressurise the opposition

ok some of the points can be addressed but that still leaves massive concerns.





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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2017, 05:42:49 PM »
I'm not willing to entertain an argument that isn't one of the best squad's in the league.

I was asking a honest question on how the squad could be used to turn out a team capable of winning away and perhaps more convincingly at home.

From my point I view I think there are massive doubts in the squad, namely:
(1) lack of pace
(2) lack of creative supply to forwards
(3) inability for our best forward to form partnerships with the rest of the team
(4) lack of quality in wide midfield areas
(5) lack of quality in defensive midfield/reliance on jedinak
(6) lack of goals from so called creative/attacking midfielders
(7) debatable quality of full backs
(8) the need to play deep to accommodate the lack of pace from our marquee signing over the summer
(9) mental fragility when going behind
(10) lack of fitness to pressurise the opposition

ok some of the points can be addressed but that still leaves massive concerns.

(1) most of our goals last year seemed to be from counter attacks
(2) in Lansbury, Hourihane, Adomah, Grealish, Elmohamady, Onomah, etc we've got plenty of creativity
(3) well play to their strengths and they might (ie don't lump it up to a short, lone striker)
(4) see above re Adomah, Grealish and Elmohamady
(5) Whelan's just dropped out of a mid-table Prem team where he was a regular
(6) see (2) above - give them a role where they're allowed to get out of our half and they'll score plenty
(7) De Laet has a Premier League winners medal and Taylor got to the latter stages of the Euros
(8 ) We had the 4th best defence in the league last year - that's not our problem
(9) we've got a team of ex-captains - not an issue
(10) is it fitness or the result of a manager who's only tactic is to score a goal then try to defend it?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this squad the right manager couldn't fix.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2017, 05:57:14 PM »
The Adam's have it. The pressure is on Bruce massively because of the squad.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2017, 05:57:25 PM »
I'd agree with most of that Adam apart from RDL having a league winner's medal automatically makes him decent. He started 6 or 7 games, was subbed in most and sent on loan in the New Year.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2017, 06:00:35 PM »
To Boro and got promoted to be fair. After scoring against us and starting our collapse towards relegation.

 


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